Re: Invalid file name on repository add - help
Sorry, but I cannot reproduce the error on my tablet. Please give some more information about your set up. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Happy to hear that you have a temporary solution. As Ferenc pointed out garage was never designed to be a file sharing location, it's a version control service for developers. Having really large rootfs images (and debian repositories for that matter) does have an impact on the servers and therefore the quality of service everyone experiences. We can talk and see if there is a need for a place for really large files in maemo.org. Some interest does exist, but I have only heard of about three to five projects where large files would need to be shared. So it's borderline whether it makes sense to set up the infrastructure for so few cases. Tero On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 01:16 +0200, ext Qole wrote: Thank you, Graham, and those who championed the raising of garage.maemo.org's file size limits. I still think maemo.org needs to allow big Maemo and tablet related downloads, but we've got some more time to discuss this now. I have managed to get a stay of execution for a year, by purchasing an unlimited bandwidth hosting account from dreamhost.com for $9.24 for a year. I will update my Easy Debian package to point to the new server this week. You can go visit my new site at qole.org and feel free to download away! On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.net wrote: On Monday 27 April 2009 18:40:26 you wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. Of course, the best idea is a Maemo server but if you need somewhere for a limited time, I might be able to host them on my personal Internet server. I have plenty of disk space but bandwidth is limited on my hosting package -- any idea how much bandwidth you use each month? Graham -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fremantle beta SDK out
Since I didn't see it mentioned here yet: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_5_beta_sdk_out/ -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle beta SDK out
Hi List, I want to announce that new Qt 4.5 packages for fremantle are in extras-devel. More info are available at qt4.garage.maemo.org thanks, Antonio On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.comwrote: Since I didn't see it mentioned here yet: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_5_beta_sdk_out/ -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- George Bernard Shawhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_bernard_shaw.html - We learn from experience that men never learn anything from experience. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maintenance break maemo.org autobuilder now
Hi all, I'm going to update the autobuilder to run the latest Maemo 5 beta SDK now. During the update the autobuilder will not process packages in the incoming-builder queue. When I'm done, everything in the queues will be processed automatically. -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Find out OS version in configure script
Hi, I´m wondering what is the recomended way to find out the OS version in my configure script? Do I have to check for library availability and then make a guess or is there some test program that I can call or some file with the version name? I´m trying to build my app using Chinook, Diablo and Fremantle. Therefore I need to introduce some #ifdef statements... Thanks! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Find out OS version in configure script
Cornelius Hald a écrit : Hi, I´m wondering what is the recomended way to find out the OS version in my configure script? Do I have to check for library availability and then make a guess or is there some test program that I can call or some file with the version name? I´m trying to build my app using Chinook, Diablo and Fremantle. Therefore I need to introduce some #ifdef statements... Thanks! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Hi, I would be also interested to know how I can find out in the postinst script if I'm in Fremantle as maemo-select-menu-location is not available anymore ... I suppose I could test for the presence of maemo-select-menu-location ... Fred ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Find out OS version in configure script
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 11:02:52 Cornelius Hald wrote: I´m wondering what is the recomended way to find out the OS version in my configure script? Do I have to check for library availability and then make a guess or is there some test program that I can call or some file with the version name? The recommended (at least by me) way is to not use OS **names** at all -- names are unreliable (what would your code had done when Diablo was introduced if it had been relying on the name Chinook). The standard way to address these sorts of issues in configure scripts is not to try to work out the name or version but to look for features you need. As an example, here is how most of my GPE configure.ac scripts handle this today (not yet including Freemantle): ENABLE_HILDON=false AC_ARG_ENABLE(hildon, [ --enable-hildon Enable Hildon GUI], [ ENABLE_HILDON=true PKG_CHECK_MODULES(HILDON, hildon-1, [ AC_DEFINE(HILDON_VER, 2, [Version of hildon libraries]) DEP_MODULES=$DEP_MODULES hildon-fm-2 ], [ AC_DEFINE(HILDON_VER, 0, [Version of hildon libraries]) PKG_CHECK_MODULES(HILDON, hildon-lgpl hildon-libs) DEP_MODULES=$DEP_MODULES hildon-fm ]) DEP_MODULES=$DEP_MODULES libosso ], [ ENABLE_HILDON=false ]) AC_SUBST(ENABLE_HILDON) AM_CONDITIONAL(HILDON, test x$ENABLE_HILDON = xtrue) ... PKG_CHECK_MODULES(DEPS, $DEP_MODULES) I then use HILDON, HILDON_CFLAGS, HILDON_LIBS, DEPS_CFLAGS and DEPS_LIBS in my Makefile.am, for example in lines like: if HILDON DEPS_CFLAGS += -DIS_HILDON endif ... INCLUDES = $(DEPS_CFLAGS) $(HILDON_CFLAGS) \ $(SERVERDEPS_CFLAGS) -I$(top_srcdir)/gpe -I$(top_srcdir) \ -DPREFIX=\@pre...@\ -D_GNU_SOURCE -Wall \ -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\@gpecalendar_locale...@\ \ -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE ... gpe_calendar_LDADD = $(DEPS_LIBS) $(HILDON_LIBS) libwidgets.la ... The .c files make use of the IS_HILDON and the HILDON_VER macros to conditionalise code. I can send you full versions of these files by email if you want, or just check out the source package for something like gpe-calendar (where these examples came from). Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
Faheem Pervez wrote: For C programs, Mikkov made the following code which works a treat for SDL stuff: http://wiki.maemo.org/Game_development#Set_the_window_title This is great and works fine to set first line in task switcher window list but it would be nice to put something to second line too like hildonized apps do. Any tips for setting second line from SDL/x11 C code? Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt VKB problem of N800 and N810
Hi, the hildon API for Qt perhaps helps you there. You can find it here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Qt4_Hildon#Porting_a_Qt_application_in_Maemo Cheers Daniel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maintenance break maemo.org autobuilder now
Update has been completed. The autobuilder will now build fremantle packages against the Maemo 5 beta SDK. On Wed, April 29, 2009 13:59, Niels Breet wrote: Hi all, I'm going to update the autobuilder to run the latest Maemo 5 beta SDK now. During the update the autobuilder will not process packages in the incoming-builder queue. When I'm done, everything in the queues will be processed automatically. -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Find out OS version in configure script
Hi Graham, On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 13:10 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 29 April 2009 11:02:52 Cornelius Hald wrote: I´m wondering what is the recomended way to find out the OS version in my configure script? Do I have to check for library availability and then make a guess or is there some test program that I can call or some file with the version name? The recommended (at least by me) way is to not use OS **names** at all -- names are unreliable (what would your code had done when Diablo was introduced if it had been relying on the name Chinook). The standard way to address these sorts of issues in configure scripts is not to try to work out the name or version but to look for features you need. thanks for the information. ATM I only need to know if the new app menu API is available. So I think I'll just check whether the function hildon_app_menu_new() is available or not. I'll also have a look at the sources of your GPE programs. Thanks again! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
GtkAction vs. AppMenu
Hi, last week I just changed my UI code to use GtkAction instead of directly using GtkMenuItem and GtkToolItem. This brought me several advantages and cleaner code. Now I tried the new HildonAppMenu and it looks like it's no longer possible to use GtkAction with it. The HildonAppMenu expect the menu items to be GtkButtons, but GtkAction can only create GtkMenuItems and GtkToolButtons which both don't inherit GtkButton :( Does anyone have a better idea then to rewrite this code again? Maybe it is somehow possible to convert a GtkToolButton into a normal GtkButton? Or is it possible to create a GtkButton out of a GtkAction? Someone must have seen this use case while designing the new API!? Thanks! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 07:37:03PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Or is it possible to create a GtkButton out of a GtkAction? Try this: button = gtk_button_new (); gtk_action_connect_proxy (action, button); Berto ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Find out OS version in configure script
Hi, that's imho what maemo-version is there for. I use it this way: PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(maemo-version, [ VERSION=`pkg-config --modversion maemo-version` AC_MSG_NOTICE([Configuring for Maemo $VERSION]) CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -DMAEMO_VERSION=\\\$VERSION\\\ MAJOR=`echo $VERSION | cut -b1 -` CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -DMAEMO_VERSION_MAJOR=$MAJOR ], [ AC_MSG_ERROR([maemo-version not found]) ]) And in my program i can then do things like #if MAEMO_VERSION_MAJOR == 5 do_something(); #endif Till Am Mittwoch 29 April 2009 schrieb Cornelius Hald: Hi, I´m wondering what is the recomended way to find out the OS version in my configure script? Do I have to check for library availability and then make a guess or is there some test program that I can call or some file with the version name? I´m trying to build my app using Chinook, Diablo and Fremantle. Therefore I need to introduce some #ifdef statements... Thanks! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
hildon-help in fremantle?
Hi, seems there's no hildon-help framwork in fremantle anymore. I didn't find this mentioned in the docs. Is there a new help framework? Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
Well, apps using a HildonWindow don't *strictly* do it either (Hildon sets the name of the binary as the first line which is odd IMHO) . But for GTK: you get the first line by using g_set_application_name() and then gtk_window_set_title() for the second line. But believe it or not, this isn't hard to do at all... char *name = Title to show on first line - Title to show on second line and then pass that char to XStoreName as the third argument: http://i44.tinypic.com/348sy2a.png Best Regards, qwerty12 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Frantisek Dufka duf...@seznam.cz wrote: Faheem Pervez wrote: For C programs, Mikkov made the following code which works a treat for SDL stuff: http://wiki.maemo.org/Game_development#Set_the_window_title This is great and works fine to set first line in task switcher window list but it would be nice to put something to second line too like hildonized apps do. Any tips for setting second line from SDL/x11 C code? Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Find out OS version in configure script
Hi Till, that's imho what maemo-version is there for. I use it this way: PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(maemo-version, [ VERSION=`pkg-config --modversion maemo-version` AC_MSG_NOTICE([Configuring for Maemo $VERSION]) CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -DMAEMO_VERSION=\\\$VERSION\\\ MAJOR=`echo $VERSION | cut -b1 -` CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -DMAEMO_VERSION_MAJOR=$MAJOR ], [ AC_MSG_ERROR([maemo-version not found]) ]) And in my program i can then do things like #if MAEMO_VERSION_MAJOR == 5 do_something(); #endif this is what I was looking for. I didn't know that a package called maemo-version exists. Thanks a lot for the information :) Just for reference, this is the solution with which I came up: PKG_CHECK_EXISTS([hildon-1 = 2.1.62], [AC_DEFINE([HILDON_HAS_APP_MENU], [1], [Does hildon app menu exist])]) Cheers! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
qt4-dev in fremantle extras-devel is broken
From my build: Setting up libqt4-dev (4.5.0-0maemo0) ... Setting up qemu-arm-cvs-m as cpu transparency method... sb-conf: No such CPU-transparency method: 'qemu-arm-cvs-m'. Perhaps you forgot to select the devkit which includes it. dpkg: error processing libqt4-dev (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Setting up qt4-qtconfig (4.5.0-0maemo0) ... Errors were encountered while processing: libqt4-dev See the complete log at https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/wpasupplicant_0.6.0+0.5.8-0ubuntu2/armel.root.log.FAILED.txt ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu
Hi Berto, On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 20:19 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 07:37:03PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Or is it possible to create a GtkButton out of a GtkAction? Try this: button = gtk_button_new (); gtk_action_connect_proxy (action, button); I think you just saved my day :) Sounds very good and I'll try tomorrow! Thanks very much! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
python-runtime package is broken (fremantle extras-devel)
Hi, I cannot install python-runtime on Fremantle from extras-devel repository. It complains about unsolved dependencies: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-runtime: Depends: python-hildon (= 0.8.9-2maemo1) but it is not going to be installed ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-hildon: Depends: gtkhtml0 but it is not installable Depends: libhildonhelp0 (= 2.0.3) but it is not installable ... Any help? -- Raul Fernandes Herbster Senior Software Enginner Signove - http://www.signove.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Diablo extras-devel-builder missing a file...
See below: snip fakeroot debian/rules binary dh_testdir dh_installdirs install -d debian/python-boto python2.5 setup.py install --root /home/builder1/maemo-diablo-i386-extras-devel/work/python-boto-0.9d/debian/python-boto \ --install-scripts usr/share/doc/python-boto/examples/ running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.5/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) make: *** [install] Error 1 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: python-runtime package is broken (fremantle extras-devel)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Raul Fernandes Herbster r...@embedded.ufcg.edu.br wrote: Hi, I cannot install python-runtime on Fremantle from extras-devel repository. It complains about unsolved dependencies: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-runtime: Depends: python-hildon (= 0.8.9-2maemo1) but it is not going to be installed ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-hildon: Depends: gtkhtml0 but it is not installable Depends: libhildonhelp0 (= 2.0.3) but it is not installable ... Any help? It looks like the beta release has broken the installation (probably some package changed its name or was removed). We are preparing a new release for fremantle beta (the current packages were made for fremantle alpha), expected probably next week. If you are really in a hurry to have it working, you can try rebuilding python-hildon locally and fixing the broken dependencies. PS: it would be better to redirect such e-mails to the pymaemo-developers mailing list instead: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/pymaemo-developers Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Diablo extras-devel-builder missing a file...
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Loafman kenn...@loafman.com wrote: See below: snip fakeroot debian/rules binary dh_testdir dh_installdirs install -d debian/python-boto python2.5 setup.py install --root /home/builder1/maemo-diablo-i386-extras-devel/work/python-boto-0.9d/debian/python-boto \ --install-scripts usr/share/doc/python-boto/examples/ running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.5/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) make: *** [install] Error 1 I've never seen this before. Can you please add a bug report about it? URL: https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=PyMaemo Please provided as detailed information as you can. Also, have you tried building locally in you scratchbox target? You can also discuss on the PyMaemo mailing list: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/pymaemo-developers Thanks, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: python-runtime package is broken (fremantle extras-devel)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Raul Fernandes Herbster r...@embedded.ufcg.edu.br wrote: Hi, I cannot install python-runtime on Fremantle from extras-devel repository. It complains about unsolved dependencies: [...] Please also add a bug report about it so we can track this properly: https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=PyMaemo Thanks, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
Faheem Pervez wrote: char *name = Title to show on first line - Title to show on second line and then pass that char to XStoreName as the third argument: Indeed. Thanks for figuring this out. One definitely needs the - part including spaces there. BTW as for the Mikkov's wiki code sample I've ended with seting both windows at once no mater if fullscreen or not. This saves me updating title of the other window after each fullscreen switch. win = info.info.x11.fswindow; if (win) XStoreName(dpy, win, title); win = info.info.x11.wmwindow; if (win) XStoreName(dpy, win, title); Seems to work for me. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: qt4-dev in fremantle extras-devel is broken
Hi Till, Today Niels has updated the autobuilder. I sent a mail to him to know more about this. gnu...@joshua:/scratchbox$ dpkg -L scratchbox-devkit-cputransp | grep cvs-m /scratchbox/devkits/cputransp/bin/qemu-arm-cvs-m Thanks Antonio On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.orgwrote: From my build: Setting up libqt4-dev (4.5.0-0maemo0) ... Setting up qemu-arm-cvs-m as cpu transparency method... sb-conf: No such CPU-transparency method: 'qemu-arm-cvs-m'. Perhaps you forgot to select the devkit which includes it. dpkg: error processing libqt4-dev (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Setting up qt4-qtconfig (4.5.0-0maemo0) ... Errors were encountered while processing: libqt4-dev See the complete log at https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/wpasupplicant_0.6.0+0.5.8-0ubuntu2/armel.root.log.FAILED.txt ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Mark Twain http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain.html - Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Problems Updating N810
I'm having two problems and they may be related... 1) When I try to bring up a New Web Browser Window on the N810, it comes up with a blank screen and a dialog that says Updating. After a few minutes, both the dialog and the screen go away with no sign of what went wrong. 2) When I bring up a terminal window and do apt-get update, I get all the normal messages except for: snip Err http://repository.maemo.org diablo/free Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 204.2.164.16 80] snip Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/diablo/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 204.2.164.16 80] Item #2 has been happening for about a week, so I originally figured it was just a bad sources.list, but when #1 happened today, I figured that they may be related. Any ideas? ...Thanks, ...Ken ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Problems Updating N810
On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Kenneth Loafman wrote: I'm having two problems and they may be related... 1) When I try to bring up a New Web Browser Window on the N810, it comes up with a blank screen and a dialog that says Updating. After a few minutes, both the dialog and the screen go away with no sign of what went wrong. /etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon restart Should fix it for you. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
Brilliant, thanks for that, I've sometimes forgot to do it when the a game in question lets you set the video mode from the menu. That tip should help. Best Regards, Faheem On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Frantisek Dufka duf...@seznam.cz wrote: BTW as for the Mikkov's wiki code sample I've ended with seting both windows at once no mater if fullscreen or not. This saves me updating title of the other window after each fullscreen switch. win = info.info.x11.fswindow; if (win) XStoreName(dpy, win, title); win = info.info.x11.wmwindow; if (win) XStoreName(dpy, win, title); Seems to work for me. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
