Re: N810 device and Maemo Fremantle SDK beta
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote: Hi, just for the records: The beta sdk doesn't run on the beagleboard (yet). So at this very moment there is no arm hardware to run fremantle stuff on. How strange and at the same time interesting. It should be a relatively small effort as the alpha also worked. Thanks for the information. Till Am Freitag 22 Mai 2009 schrieb Frank Banul: No and no. You can use the x86 scratchbox target or get a beagleboard. Frank On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:57 PM, diptiman roy roy.dipti...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, Is maemo fremantle beta is compiable with N810. Can we use it for developing application for N810? Please, inform me. DIPTIMAN ROY Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel Click here! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 device and Maemo Fremantle SDK beta
Hi, it seems like this is related to the closed source 3d drivers. Imho the alpha didn't come with accelerated 3d, maybe it's now required for the beta. Till Am Sonntag 24 Mai 2009 schrieb Kees Jongenburger: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote: Hi, just for the records: The beta sdk doesn't run on the beagleboard (yet). So at this very moment there is no arm hardware to run fremantle stuff on. How strange and at the same time interesting. It should be a relatively small effort as the alpha also worked. Thanks for the information. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: BeagleBoard and maemo
Hi, i'll bring my bb anyway. One of my SDKs was never updated from alpha to beta, so i can at least compile stuff myself to run it on the alpha BB. I'll also bring a touchscreen i got for my beagleboards 7 800x480 screen. Perhaps i can get it working before the weekend. Till Am Samstag 23 Mai 2009 schrieb Frantisek Dufka: Maybe all Nokia devs finally got their OMAP3 tablet prototypes so no need for Beagle anymore? ;-) I don't think they ever developed on the BB. Imho the BB port is just a private hobby of one of the nokians. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 05:08 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: Toggle-like radio buttons are quite common too in many user interfaces. Not that I can think of. Well, I haven't made a list :) but out of the blue I can think at least of the GIMP, Audacity, OpenOffice/MS Word/Abiword/Gnumeric, the iPhone... Where I can find examples of these, it seems to be where space constraints make a real radio button difficult to use. Such as the alignment buttons in the OpenOffice toolbar. But Maemo Fremantle suggests their use _always_, for some other unexplained reason. This suggests that it's just about the cosmetic appearance, suggesting that it's an issue for the theme. Otherwise it's just another tedious #ifdef to add to code when porting to Maemo. and I'd swear I saw them in the Moblin 2 UI too. But I wasn't only thinking about computer interfaces, they're used in some home appliances too. Home appliances generally have awful UI and have very little UI consistency. You'll find plenty of prior art for design mistakes in the home. That lack of consistency means that there can be no meaningful convention to differentiate between toggle buttons and radio buttons there anyway. However, I'm was asking about the API and implementation, because the Fremantle UI guidelines are really out of our control at this point. -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 01:48:11PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: However, I'm was asking about the API and implementation, because the Fremantle UI guidelines are really out of our control at this point. The implementation can be changed, we're in beta and that means that things can still be fixed. I think that the proper place to discuss this is the Maemo bugzilla, so can you please file a bug against Gtk? https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Desktop%20platform Berto ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Not able to build application for Armel terget
Hi, I am not able to build qt application for ARMEL terget. [sbox-DIABLO_ARMEL:~]qmake mmap: No such device or address I already modified /etc/sysctl.conf: vm.vdso_enabled = 0 vm.mmap_min_addr = 4096 net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 1024 65535 and executed 'sysctl -p' as root I am using maemo 4.1.2 Please, help me. DIPTIMAN ROY Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel Click here! Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API
Graham Cobb escribiu: On Friday 22 May 2009 18:20:55 Sergio Villar Senin wrote: Modest uses a pannable area which contains the text editor. Thus it's not possible to select text in that way in Fremantle. You'll have to use the keyboard. Not having experienced this I don't want to overreact but ... Are you saying that in Freemantle there is no easy way to select and copy text out of an email to copy into somewhere else? E.g. copying a phone number or address into a contact, copying an email address from a forwarded email into the destination of another email, copying a portion of a URL (the base URL without all the tracking junk included) into a web browser, copying the directions for a meeting into a separate email, copying some text and a picture from one email into another? As Claudio said you can use the keyboard for copypaste (killyank) operations. Regarding Modest, take into account that we're trying to reduce as much as possible the need of copypaste. In order to do that, we try to identify as much as possible the relevant information for the user by hyperlinkifying things like email addreses, phone numbers, sip addresses. Clicking on those links could trigger external applications like contacts applications, web browsers, IM applications, SIP/VoIP applications or whatever is installed in the system. And if the information comes in the form of an attached file, then there is no problem as you could archive it using Modest. Br ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Not able to build application for Armel terget
Hi, Could you tell me what cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr says? BR, Antonio On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM, diptiman roy roy.dipti...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Hi, I am not able to build qt application for ARMEL terget. [sbox-DIABLO_ARMEL:~]*qmake* *mmap*: *No* *such* *device* *or* *address* I already modified /etc/sysctl.conf: vm.vdso_enabled = 0 vm.mmap_min_addr = 4096 net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 1024 65535 and executed 'sysctl -p' as root I am using maemo 4.1.2 Please, help me. *DIPTIMAN ROY* -- Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel Click here!http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_Travel_1/*http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ -- Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel Click here!http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_Travel_1/*http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Frank Lloyd Wrighthttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frank_lloyd_wright.html - TV is chewing gum for the eyes. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GtkAction vs. AppMenu
Thanks Berto for all the good input and for explaining the decisions that have been made. I wasn't really aware that radio buttons are discouraged and that toggle buttons should be favored. Now that I know that, I changed the code again to use toggle buttons and everything works as expected. So there is no immediate need for you to check my example - I still would be interested though ;) Here are two screenshots. The first is the menu in Diablo, the second is the same menu in Fremantle. http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/diablo_style_menu.png http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/fremantle_style_menu.png Now the only thing to do is to remove the Increase Indent and Decrease Indent buttons from the Fremantle menu, because only 10 items are allowed and currently there are 12. Another thing is, that if you compare those two menus, you can easily see that the Diablo menu has more structure due to the use of separators. I'm not yet sure how to get back this structure, but I'll make some experiments. HIG suggestions are welcome as well :) I think that we really need updates to the Fremantle style guide especially we need lots of screenshots that show us developers how our applications should look and behave. Also we need more advice on how to convert common functionality from Diablo to Fremantle. The problem with the text box inside a scrollable area comes again to my mind. Or how to use filters properly (which will be an extra thread soon). Many people (like me) are just developing in their free time, which is mainly in the evenings or on the weekends. The experiments with the Fremantle UI were taking my complete development time during the last two weeks. The application I'm developing is really small and has not much of an UI so it should be straight forward to adopt the program to the new look and feel and shouldn't take longer then one evening. Hmm, maybe this mail was a bit chaotic, but I think we really need to document this process better to help people getting there apps ready for the next tablet. Otherwise people will not adopt the new API and the programs will still have small menus, big scrollbars, small scrollbars and generally will just look inconsistent. I mean I'm really happy that my job is not to port maemo-mapper which has around 90(!) menu items Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that there is now a way for creating completely finger friendly UIs and I'm happy that alpha and beta code is available. I'm just saying we need to make it easier for developers to use this API. Whether this is by changing the API or by creating better documentation or by doing something else doesn't really matter. It just should be easier :) Then again - maybe I'm the only one having this kind of problems?! Cheers! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: BeagleBoard and maemo
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote: Hi, i'll bring my bb anyway. One of my SDKs was never updated from alpha to beta, so i can at least compile stuff myself to run it on the alpha BB. I'll also bring a touchscreen i got for my beagleboards 7 800x480 screen. Perhaps i can get it working before the weekend. I installed the alpha SDK and was able to boot a root file system using the uImage in the SVN repository. After that I tried to recompile the kernel but the omap patch against the kernel failed to apply cleanly. I use the sisusb vga adapter so I currently switched to the OE kernel without pain (yet). I will try some more but as the OE kernel appears to work it might be better to try to get the Beta running on the Beagle. Greetings Till Am Samstag 23 Mai 2009 schrieb Frantisek Dufka: Maybe all Nokia devs finally got their OMAP3 tablet prototypes so no need for Beagle anymore? ;-) I don't think they ever developed on the BB. Imho the BB port is just a private hobby of one of the nokians. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maemo Official Platform Bug Jar 2009.21
A Quick Look at Maemo Official Platform in Bugzilla (https://bugs.maemo.org/). 2009-05-18 through 2009-05-24 As of 2009-05-25 Maemo Official Platform contains 1831 items (+10 this week), including 295 open issues (-12 this week): * 190 open bugs (-8 this week) * 6 critical/blocker (+1 this week) * 2 easyfix (no change this week) * 24 moreinfo (no change this week) * 5 crash (no change this week) * 6 patch (-1 this week) * 9 reopened (-1 this week) * 34 unconfirmed (no change this week) * 105 open enhancements (-4 this week) * 2 easyfix (no change this week) * 4 moreinfo (-1 this week) * 1 patch (-1 this week) * 2 reopened (no change this week) * 4 unconfirmed (no change this week) ==--- New Items ---== 8 bugs were opened - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4563,4564,4565,4569,4570,4571,4572,4573 ): * [4563] Popup menu won't locate at the left side of the screen * [4564] hildon-input-method API references are not online * [4565] Translation issues meta bug for Crash reporter * [4569] HildonFindToolbar find button is missing * [4570] Xephyr segmentation fault when clicking text field in Maemo 5 Beta SDK * [4571] Not getting hildon theme for Armel terget and unable to build for Armel terget * [4572] Cursor keys don't work in Maemo 5 Beta SDK * [4573] libalarm errors in Maemo 5 Beta SDK Of these, 3 were critical/blockers - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4569,4570,4571 ): * [4569] HildonFindToolbar find button is missing * [4570] Xephyr segmentation fault when clicking text field in Maemo 5 Beta SDK * [4571] Not getting hildon theme for Armel terget and unable to build for Armel terget 0 enhancements were opened. ==--- Resolved Bugs ---== 11 bugs were resolved fixed - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1799,2393,2738,3325,3479,3987,4197,4461,4557,4570,4572 ): * [1799] Hildon UI Guide missing from new site (FiF) * [2393] Backup/Restore doesn't restore Application Menu positions (FiF) * [2738] Bug in maemo getting started: gcc cmd line example * [3325] Status bar gets stuck in the open position (FiF) * [3479] SDK does not work on Debian lenny system (FiF) * [3987] Documentation links broken * [4197] opengles-sgx-img-common tries to start service in SDK. (FiF) * [4461] Documentation: All deprecations should mention replacements (FiF) * [4557] Typo in libhildon Diablo API docs code example * [4570] Xephyr segmentation fault when clicking text field in Maemo 5 Beta SDK * [4572] Cursor keys don't work in Maemo 5 Beta SDK --- (FiF) indicates the bug is Fixed in Fremantle. 0 bugs were resolved invalid. 5 bugs were resolved wontfix - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=2637,2878,3121,4225,4569 ): * [2637] memory cards appear corrupted/unformatted in OS2008 but work in OS2007 * [2878] Very poor satellite acquisition with internal GPS * [3121] concurrent use of a given plugin in gst-plugins-dsp causes both to fail * [4225] The x11vnc does not work on some areas of the screen * [4569] HildonFindToolbar find button is missing 1 bug was resolved duplicate - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1280 ): * [1280] Documenting widget spacing requirements 1 bug was resolved worksforme - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=2784 ): * [2784] Screen taps or presses go to random locations, randomly 0 bugs were resolved moved. ==--- Resolved Enhancements ---== 3 enhancements were resolved fixed - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1654,3215,4008 ): * [1654] Allow editing of internet radio stream names in media player (FiF) * [3215] sqlite3 command-line application is not available * [4008] Remove RD mode requirement for root access --- (FiF) indicates the enhancement is Fixed in Fremantle. 0 enhancements were resolved invalid. 3 enhancements were resolved wontfix - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=2249,3010,4380 ): * [2249] FM Radio frequency not set for use in Japan * [3010] Provide FTP Bluetooth interface (OBEX FTP server) * [4380] Publish sources of gpsdriver and libsupld 0 enhancements were resolved duplicate. 1 enhancement was resolved worksforme - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1263 ): * [1263] support more Unicode glyphs out of the box 0 enhancements were resolved moved. ==--- Confirmed Items ---== 3 bugs were confirmed - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4547,4557,4572 ): * [4547] Playlists with \r or mixed newline not handled * [4557] Typo in libhildon Diablo API docs code example * [4572] Cursor keys don't work in Maemo 5 Beta SDK 0 enhancements were confirmed. ==--- Reopened Items ---== 2 bugs were reopened - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1541,4461 ): * [1541] Broken link in How to extend Hildon Input Methods examples * [4461] Documentation: All deprecations should mention replacements 1 enhancement was reopened - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4380 ): * [4380] Publish
Maemo Official Applications Bug Jar 2009.21
A Quick Look at Maemo Official Applications in Bugzilla (https://bugs.maemo.org/). 2009-05-18 through 2009-05-24 As of 2009-05-25 Maemo Official Applications contains 1259 items (-1 this week), including 293 open issues (-31 this week): * 151 open bugs (-19 this week) * 0 critical/blocker (no change this week) * 1 easyfix (-1 this week) * 27 moreinfo (-5 this week) * 0 crash (no change this week) * 6 patch (+1 this week) * 7 reopened (no change this week) * 33 unconfirmed (-3 this week) * 142 open enhancements (-12 this week) * 4 easyfix (no change this week) * 4 moreinfo (-1 this week) * 7 patch (-1 this week) * 2 reopened (+2 this week) * 12 unconfirmed (-4 this week) ==--- New Items ---== 1 bug was opened - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4574 ): * [4574] media player library won't update 0 bugs were critical/blocker. 0 enhancements were opened. ==--- Resolved Bugs ---== 6 bugs were resolved fixed - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=2040,2997,3013,3307,3320,3805 ): * [2040] Bogus Document not well-formed yellow screen (FiF) * [2997] Changing home city in clock does not update current time (FiF) * [3013] Get rid of confusing /etc/timezone file (FiF) * [3307] maemo Extras in Application manager should be Extras (FiF) * [3320] Delete key hides onscreen keyboard (FiF) * [3805] Problem with certain IMAP LIST/LSUB behaviour --- (FiF) indicates the bug is Fixed in Fremantle. 0 bugs were resolved invalid. 8 bugs were resolved wontfix - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1172,1989,2053,3463,3468,3982,4047,4056 ): * [1172] Mnotify's Settings Help text different from UI * [1989] Webmail Notifier Doesn't Use System Proxy * [2053] Webmail Notifier _partially_ works with Google Apps * [3463] Restore ignores applications not visible to end users (only RedPill mode) * [3468] Old chinook extensions in limbo after diablo update and restore * [3982] Internet search applet icons are not themeable * [4047] ckdg_ib_unable_to_move_to_current_location doesn't make any sense * [4056] Web shortcut shows an error dialog before closing its config dialog 4 bugs were resolved duplicate - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1142,3622,3942,4574 ): * [1142] news reader does not support authenticated feeds * [3622] Ctrl-A does not work in URL field * [3942] Reply quoted with multiple mime parts shows signature instead of message text * [4574] media player library won't update 0 bugs were resolved worksforme. 0 bugs were resolved moved. ==--- Resolved Enhancements ---== 4 enhancements were resolved fixed - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=166,3934,4043,4322 ): * [166] Confusing selecting behaviour in browser (FiF) * [3934] Image zooming no longer works with images larger than the browser window (FiF) * [4043] Application Manager should not depend on user account (FiF) * [4322] Add an option to not play alarm sounds when device sound is turned off (FiF) --- (FiF) indicates the enhancement is Fixed in Fremantle. 1 enhancement was resolved invalid - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=2109 ): * [2109] Page rendering is slow for complex PDF documents 9 enhancements were resolved wontfix - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=723,2066,2437,2510,2804,2900,3142,3927,3940 ): * [723] Media Player can not access authenticated streams * [2066] No Mail Icon should disappear from tray to save space. * [2437] Missing contextual menu options for textarea elements * [2510] provide localised wikipedia link for internet search applet * [2804] Internet search applet wastes space * [2900] Show indication in *package list* if a package cannot be installed due to missing deps * [3142] User defined settings for the look 'n feel of the RSS applet * [3927] Make charger unplug notification disableable * [3940] Browser needs zoom levels below 80% 0 enhancements were resolved duplicate. 0 enhancements were resolved worksforme. 0 enhancements were resolved moved. ==--- Confirmed Items ---== 0 bugs were confirmed. 1 enhancement was confirmed - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=3201 ): * [3201] add Lotus Sametime support to RTCOMM ==--- Reopened Items ---== 0 bugs were reopened. 2 enhancements were reopened - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=3927,3940 ): * [3927] Make charger unplug notification disableable * [3940] Browser needs zoom levels below 80% ==--- Unloved Items ---== 0 bugs were needing love. 0 enhancements were needing love. ==--- Top Tens ---== Ten biggest open bugs by number of votes - ( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=3557,2722,2405,3298,3592,349,2987,3689,1860,3369 ): 1. (18%) [3557] Browser tops its windows by itself 2. (9%) [2722] Window scrollbar down/right buttons gets stuck 3. (8%) [2405] Center dpad press is treated as enter key, triggering form submit instead of activating finger keyboard 4. (5%) [3298] Focus
Browser not launched, Maemo 4.1.2 SDK
Hi, I had sent this mail earlier which got bounced. So I am sending the mail. If the mail reaches twice, my apologies. I am have Maemo 4.1.2 SDK fully setup on Ubuntu 8.10. When I launch browser using the menu, 'Open new browser window', browser is not launched. No error message displayed. Also when i try to lunch any link, for example, 'www.facebook.com', I am seeing the following messages in terminal window, hildon-desktop[7111]: Could not load icon: Icon 'qgn_list_gene_bookmark_blank' not present in theme hildon-desktop[7111]: Could not load icon: Icon 'qgn_list_gene_bookmark_blank' not present in theme hildon-desktop[7111]: Could not load icon: Icon 'qgn_list_gene_bookmark_blank' not present in theme Am i missing anything during installation. Do I need to install additional packages. Could someone point me please. Thanks. Srini ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
