Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide
Le 09/12/2009 02:23, Ian a écrit :
 Hi
 me too, I ordered it since they wrote to order it before the 21 of december.
 ordered it from where? I looked around on forum.nokia.com and I have
 nothing related to N900 anywhere..maybe I missed something/some link

 Ian





Once the store's content is displayed Premium Services/eStore) : refresh 
your page and the N900 should appear ...
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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Riku Voipio
ext Claudio Saavedra wrote:
 El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 17:50 +, Graham Cobb escribió:
 On Tuesday 08 December 2009 17:23:15 Claudio Saavedra wrote:
 I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used
 by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should
 be installed properly.
 What is dh_installxsession?  I can't find any documentation on it.  Probably 
 looking in the wrong place!

 It's part of upstart-dev. I don't know where it's documented, though. I
 simply looked at hildon-desktop and some other modules' packages.

It is not really necessary/recommended to use it anymore. One can just
copy the startup script into /etc/X11/Xession.post like one would do to
any file in /etc. Same is true to dh_installupstart.

But why does mafw-lastfm need to start at boot time and keep running all
the time? Is it not possible to make it start/stop when playback
stops/starts?

Still, looking forward to seeing mafw-lastfm in extras-testing =)
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Re: Developing Map-based apps for N900

2009-12-09 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Perhaps a QtWebKit widget + different map sources could be a good
solution.. I don't know if that is similar to how already N900 Maps
app work

2009/12/8 Paul Drummond paul.drumm...@iode.co.uk:
 If I want to develop an app that integrates with a map plugin, then
 obviously I want to use Ovi maps but the Ovi Maps SDK doesn't support Maemo
 and as far as I know the Ovi Maps app for Maemo can't be used as a plugin.

 There must be work going on behind the scenes to resolve this situation - in
 the mean time I would be greatly appreciated if someone from Nokia could
 provide some direction so developer like myself avoid wasting time on
 solutions that might be dead-ends when the real solution is eventually
 announced.

 The way I see it there are several potential solutions:

 1) I could write a Qt App that embeds Ovi Maps into a QtWebKit widget.  I
 don't think this is currently possible due to it's lack of support for
 Maemo/Linux but I will do some prototyping here any way and see how far I
 get.

 2) Write a Qt app that embeds Google Maps into a QtWebKit widget.

 3) Wait for a dedicated Ovi Maps plugin for Maemo to be developed.  Will
 there ever be such a plugin?

 Can someone from Nokia comment on this please?

 Thank you,
 Paul Drummond

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Re: Developing Map-based apps for N900

2009-12-09 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi,
qt-apps.org contains some free Qt Map widgets...
Take a look also at trolltech labs [1].

[1] http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/08/04/openstreetmap-and-qt-and-s60/

Br,
Antonio

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente 
jsmanri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Perhaps a QtWebKit widget + different map sources could be a good
 solution.. I don't know if that is similar to how already N900 Maps
 app work

 2009/12/8 Paul Drummond paul.drumm...@iode.co.uk:
  If I want to develop an app that integrates with a map plugin, then
  obviously I want to use Ovi maps but the Ovi Maps SDK doesn't support
 Maemo
  and as far as I know the Ovi Maps app for Maemo can't be used as a
 plugin.
 
  There must be work going on behind the scenes to resolve this situation -
 in
  the mean time I would be greatly appreciated if someone from Nokia could
  provide some direction so developer like myself avoid wasting time on
  solutions that might be dead-ends when the real solution is eventually
  announced.
 
  The way I see it there are several potential solutions:
 
  1) I could write a Qt App that embeds Ovi Maps into a QtWebKit widget.  I
  don't think this is currently possible due to it's lack of support for
  Maemo/Linux but I will do some prototyping here any way and see how far I
  get.
 
  2) Write a Qt app that embeds Google Maps into a QtWebKit widget.
 
  3) Wait for a dedicated Ovi Maps plugin for Maemo to be developed.  Will
  there ever be such a plugin?
 
  Can someone from Nokia comment on this please?
 
  Thank you,
  Paul Drummond
 
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Re: Cannot access package page

2009-12-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 00:14 + schrieb Thomas Troy:
 Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded
 in 
 /mnt/netapp/pear/midcom/lib/org/maemo/packages/handler/repository/repository.php
  on line 542
 
 There is a bug raised about this but I cannot see any workaround etc. 

Yes. Please see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6301 and
especially comment 8.

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Re: Virtual Keyboard Sources

2009-12-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 08.12.2009, 23:47 +0200 schrieb Sergey Vlasov:
 I'm not very happy with N900 virtual keyboard and would like to tweak
 it a bit. I have already read Extending Hildon Input Methods guide,
 it is helpful, though rather than writing a plugin from scratch I
 would like to take a look on the current code first. I couldn't find
 in http://maemo.gitorious.org, is this a right place?

At least with regard to tarballs, hildon-input-method and
hildon-input-method-framework are available here:
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/h/

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Re: Virtual Keyboard Sources

2009-12-09 Thread Faheem Pervez
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Sergey Vlasov sergey.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,


Hiya,

 I'm not very happy with N900 virtual keyboard and would like to tweak it a
 bit. I have already read Extending Hildon Input Methods guide, it is
 helpful, though rather than writing a plugin from scratch I would like to
 take a look on the current code first. I couldn't find in
 http://maemo.gitorious.org, is this a right place?


The code for the virtual keyboards shipped with the N900 are
closed-source, but you may find
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4178 interesting.
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Best Regards,
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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 21:20 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió:
 Hi,
 
 another idea: what about displaying Listening with Nokia N900
 instead of Listening with mafw-lastfm ?

If you can prove that there's no legal issue with using the 'Nokia N900'
brand with a third party application, maybe. Still, mafw-lastfm should
work with any other device using mafw, so restricting it's app id only
to the 'Nokia N900' now is not something I would like, at least not for
the long term.

Of course, I could request other application ids, one for each supported
device. Not sure if it's worth the burden. Unless users really care to
show off that they own a N900, or a whatever device is released in the
future.

Claudio


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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Eugene Antimirov
 From: Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt
 Subject: Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org

 On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 01:21:28PM +0100, ds wrote:
 Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent,
 what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program.

 Today I received an email from the N900 Developer Device Program saying
 that it is finally in stock and can be ordered.

I also got it but I could not understand, should I re-order my N900
for 250 euro or my previous November order with Authorized and
Priority: critical is still valid?

Quim, can you confirm that old orders are still valid and it's just a
notification email we got?


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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Juan A. Suarez Romero
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:15 +0200, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
 El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 21:20 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió:
  Hi,
  
  another idea: what about displaying Listening with Nokia N900
  instead of Listening with mafw-lastfm ?
 
 If you can prove that there's no legal issue with using the 'Nokia N900'
 brand with a third party application, maybe. Still, mafw-lastfm should
 work with any other device using mafw, so restricting it's app id only
 to the 'Nokia N900' now is not something I would like, at least not for
 the long term.
 


Maybe using Listening with p, where p is a used-defined string
that can be customized through the applet.

J.A.


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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mié, 09-12-2009 a las 10:30 +0200, Riku Voipio escribió:
 ext Claudio Saavedra wrote:
  El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 17:50 +, Graham Cobb escribió:
  On Tuesday 08 December 2009 17:23:15 Claudio Saavedra wrote:
  I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used
  by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should
  be installed properly.
  What is dh_installxsession?  I can't find any documentation on it.  
  Probably 
  looking in the wrong place!
 
  It's part of upstart-dev. I don't know where it's documented, though. I
  simply looked at hildon-desktop and some other modules' packages.
 
 It is not really necessary/recommended to use it anymore. One can just
 copy the startup script into /etc/X11/Xession.post like one would do to
 any file in /etc. Same is true to dh_installupstart.

OK, roger that. I'll change it for future releases. I guess there are
plenty of packages still using dh_installxsession, though.

 
 But why does mafw-lastfm need to start at boot time and keep running all
 the time? Is it not possible to make it start/stop when playback
 stops/starts?

I am not 100% sure that's feasible, since it's separate process
communicated with mafw through libmafw-shared. I don't think mafw has
any way to start/stop processes on demand that would fit this. And I
don't think doing so would have any important benefit.

Claudio

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mié, 09-12-2009 a las 12:29 +0100, Juan A. Suarez Romero escribió:
 
 Maybe using Listening with p, where p is a used-defined string
 that can be customized through the applet.
 

Short answer: that's not feasible.

Long answer: what you see displayed in the user last.fm page is the name
of the application, as registered by its developer when requesting a
scrobbling client id. One application - one client id - one
application name displayed there.

Then again, having one client id per device should be feasible. It's a
matter of discussing it with the last.fm people and being sure that we
are not stepping on Nokia's toes by using 'Nokia N900' as the
application name.

Claudio


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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Quim Gil


ext Eugene Antimirov wrote:
 Quim, can you confirm that old orders are still valid and it's just a
 notification email we got?

If you have questions please contact the email address of the device
program, as explained in the invitations sent. Thanks!

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:20:48PM +0100, Andrea Grandi wrote:

 another idea: what about displaying Listening with Nokia N900
 instead of Listening with mafw-lastfm ?

The thing is that you can scrobble from the N900 using different apps,
and you can also (in theory) use mafw-lastfm from a platform other
than the N900, so ...

Berto
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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Eugene Antimirov
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote:
 ext Eugene Antimirov wrote:
 Quim, can you confirm that old orders are still valid and it's just a
 notification email we got?

 If you have questions please contact the email address of the device
 program, as explained in the invitations sent. Thanks!

Thank you for the suggestion, Quim. I wrote an email to them and they
replied almost immediately:

Hi
No, you don't need to re-order, the one you made is just fine.
Thank you


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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 08:30:49 Riku Voipio wrote:
 It is not really necessary/recommended to use it anymore. One can just
 copy the startup script into /etc/X11/Xession.post like one would do to
 any file in /etc. Same is true to dh_installupstart.

OK -- that makes sense.  So, is there any documentation on 
using /etc/X11/Xsession.post?  It seems that somewhere the documentation 
should explain that that is how to start a user daemon process or take action 
on X session startup (and that /etc/event.d is the way to tell upstart to 
start a system daemon process or take action on system boot).

Out of interest, why is there a .post directory (instead of just using .d)?

Graham
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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Martin Grimme
I did absolutely nothing but wait and just received the shipping
confirmation. It's all fine.


Martin


2009/12/9, Eugene Antimirov tur...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote:
 ext Eugene Antimirov wrote:
 Quim, can you confirm that old orders are still valid and it's just a
 notification email we got?

 If you have questions please contact the email address of the device
 program, as explained in the invitations sent. Thanks!

 Thank you for the suggestion, Quim. I wrote an email to them and they
 replied almost immediately:

 Hi
 No, you don't need to re-order, the one you made is just fine.
 Thank you
 

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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
You mean you did not even order (and paid) ? :)
Just waited and they shipped it to you? :P

I wish! :)

Aniello

2009/12/9 Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.com:
 I did absolutely nothing but wait and just received the shipping
 confirmation. It's all fine.


 Martin


 2009/12/9, Eugene Antimirov tur...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote:
 ext Eugene Antimirov wrote:
 Quim, can you confirm that old orders are still valid and it's just a
 notification email we got?

 If you have questions please contact the email address of the device
 program, as explained in the invitations sent. Thanks!

 Thank you for the suggestion, Quim. I wrote an email to them and they
 replied almost immediately:

 Hi
 No, you don't need to re-order, the one you made is just fine.
 Thank you
 

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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-09 Thread Martin Grimme
Well, of course I ordered back in November, but since then did nothing. ;)


Martin


2009/12/9, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
 You mean you did not even order (and paid) ? :)
 Just waited and they shipped it to you? :P

 I wish! :)

 Aniello

 2009/12/9 Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.com:
 I did absolutely nothing but wait and just received the shipping
 confirmation. It's all fine.


 Martin


 2009/12/9, Eugene Antimirov tur...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote:
 ext Eugene Antimirov wrote:
 Quim, can you confirm that old orders are still valid and it's just a
 notification email we got?

 If you have questions please contact the email address of the device
 program, as explained in the invitations sent. Thanks!

 Thank you for the suggestion, Quim. I wrote an email to them and they
 replied almost immediately:

 Hi
 No, you don't need to re-order, the one you made is just fine.
 Thank you
 

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Re: Garage GPG

2009-12-09 Thread Thomas Troy
If the problem is causing builds for you to fail when uploading to the
autobuilder a workaround is to add the -uc and -us switches when building
your source

dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S -i -us -uc

This will then build your source package without signing them.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Pau Garcia i Quiles pgqui...@elpauer.orgwrote:

 Hello,

 I don't know if this is the right place for a question related to
 Garage, but still...

 I received the invitation to upload to extras-devel, accepted it and
 added my public SSH key. I did not add my public GPG key at that
 moment.

 How can I add the public GPG key now? (I can't see any option for
 that, https://garage.maemo.org/account/ just lists my public SSH keys)

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Re: Garage GPG

2009-12-09 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello,

Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I don't know if this is the right place for a question related to
 Garage, but still...
 
You can ask the garage admin directly (garage at maemo dot org), but
this is of course a better forum to spread info.

 I received the invitation to upload to extras-devel, accepted it and
 added my public SSH key. I did not add my public GPG key at that
 moment.
 
 How can I add the public GPG key now? (I can't see any option for
 that, https://garage.maemo.org/account/ just lists my public SSH keys)
 
We don't make use of the GPG key, and that is why there is no UI offered
for changing it. This could be easily added to the account page you
mentioned. With the SSO (Single Sign On) approaching I would rather wait
and see how that system will manage keys (SSH and PGP/GPG). AFAIK we
will have a single UI (in Midgard) to manage account info, so the garage
account page will not be necessary anymore. The guys responsible for SSO
could perhaps comment on that.

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Hiding the top-bar, enabling fullscreen for every app in Fremantle

2009-12-09 Thread 白い熊
Hello everyone:

Is there a command which I can incorporate into a bash script or so, that would 
enable me to hide the top-bar in Maemo5?
I'd like to run a few apps fullscreen, for instance GNU Emacs. Specifically, 
I'm running these on the Nokia N900, and
even in fullscreen mode, the top-bar is always visible.

I'm not sure how the screen dimensions or what have you are defined, so that 
fullscreen mode of apps doesn't make them
stretch over the bar, but can I toggle the bar visibility, or make applications 
cover it?

白い熊

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Re: Developing Map-based apps for N900

2009-12-09 Thread Paul Drummond
Thanks for all the help.  I am trying maemo-mapper now and I am also looking
at various QtWebKit examples that use google maps.

Thanks,
Paul.
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Re: Developing Map-based apps for N900

2009-12-09 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

Am Mittwoch 09 Dezember 2009 schrieb Paul Drummond:
 Thanks for all the help.  I am trying maemo-mapper now and I am also looking
 at various QtWebKit examples that use google maps.
I just put Maep in maemo-extras which is a fast and easy to use map widget 
which can
be integrated into any gtk or hildon application. The maep program itself is a 
very
simple example and just displays the map and interfaces it to the GPS. Two
of my other projects (gpxview and osm2go) use this very same map. 

Maep runs on OS2008 to Maemo5 and also on plain gtk (which is what i most
of the time use for development).

Regards,
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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-09 Thread Juan A. Suarez Romero
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:40 +0200, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
 Long answer: what you see displayed in the user last.fm page is the
 name
 of the application, as registered by its developer when requesting a
 scrobbling client id. One application - one client id - one
 application name displayed there.
 

Then, I prefer to keep mafw-lastfm name.

J.A.


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