Re: non-free section pointing to PR1.0 repos.

2010-06-03 Thread Ram Kurvakat
just FYI:

Niels has just corrected this issue.
It should be pointing to the PR1.2 repos now.

Thanks Niels.

Regards
-krk969
(Ram)


- Original Message -
From: Robin Burchell
Sent: 06/02/10 11:47 PM
To: Ram Kurvakat
Subject: Re: non-free section pointing to PR1.0 repos.

Thanks for sending this Ram. I've been too busy to follow it up since I found 
out about it. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Ram Kurvakat rkma...@gmx.com 
wrote:  Niels, Ive sent you a mail about this already, please ignore it posted 
it  here again so it helps everybody.   the non-free section seems to be 
pointing to PR1.0 repos still.   Is this known and somebody already working 
on it ? Perhaps Ive missed to see  a mail or two.   Not able to promote 
anything on this past few days. I presume it's just promotion that is affected, 
but all the same, it would be nice to have this resolved. (I'd love to not use 
non-free, but I really don't have the time to learn how to fix my packaging at 
the moment...)  Ram   (krk969)  Best, Robin Burchell mob: +447702671419 
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Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi Claudio,

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 03:46 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:

 We are now in June and I haven't heard anything.

 This is just not true. To your inquire back in April, this is what I
 replied:

 https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/mafw-lastfm-devel/2010-April/77.html

 I thought you'd follow up with what I commented as the two main reasons
 why I didn't consider libscrobble at that point yet, but since you
 didn't I just continued fixing issues in my code as time allowed.

Ah, I didn't reply:

 1. No now-playing notification

Not a blocker IMO. In fact at least last.fm seems to understand just
fine that the last scrobbled song is Now Playing due to the
timestamp. So I fail to see what functionality users will miss.

 2. No scrobbling right after the track has finished.

I'm not sure what that means, but if it's related to the fact that I
decided to scrobble songs each 10 minutes. First, I told you that it's
not a limitation of libscroble, it's up to the client
(maemo-scrobbler/mafw-lastfm) to call sr_session_submit() when it sees
fit[1]. And second, I changed maemo-scrobbled back in January to do
what you wanted[2]. Also, in the pathches for libscrobble I sent I
called sr_session_submit() right after metadata_callback(). Therefore,
as I mentioned, there's no change.

The patch is small, so it's easy to see what's happening:
https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/mafw-lastfm-devel/2010-February/70.html

So essentially the only drawback was support for Now Playing, which
is not important to me (if even needed), but it's easy to implement,
you could have done so easily.

 1) Support for multi-scrobbling (both last.fm and libre.fm at the same time)
    Includes a song queue per service.

 I haven't worked on this yet, because I was fixing other issues that
 were more important. I list them below, even when I am sure that you
 know already.

Yes, and I don't agree with the priorities. To me, as a user, I don't
care if I cannot scrobble from certain proxified connections to
last.fm, because even if I do, it would only be to last.fm.

So, mafw-lastfm provides at best 50% of what I need (more like 40%);
that's not acceptable.

 2) Improved song queue handling
    Since internally it uses libscrobble (which is independent of MAFW),
    the important code can be easily tested on desktop sw, and it has
    been done so… throughly.
    It doesn’t matter how flaky your network is, or that the servers are
    down, the songs will be submitted.

 I have fixed all the issues with the network handling for at least a
 month now (these were released in 0.0.5).

Well, that's easy to say. I would need to review the code to even be
slightly confident that that's true. And of course, even if I don't
see any problems... that's not a guarantee that _all_ the problems are
fixed.

 I also implemented support for
 scrobbling behind proxies[1], which is in a branch in gitorious waiting
 to get some testing from users.

Yes, as I said before, I don't think that's important.

 3) Permanent storage
    The song queue is not lost, even on crashes, device reboots, or
    software updates.

 I have also implemented permanent storage during last week and it's
 working fine. I am planning to do a release including this during this
 week, but I was waiting for some translations to come in first [2].

Perhaps it's working fine, or perhaps it has issues with UTF-8, or
perhaps (quite likely) it's implemented in a non-extensible way which
would require many changes once multi-scrobbling is supported. I can
tell you from experience that the latter is quite likely.

In any case, you _knew_ libscrobbler supported this, and yet, instead
of adding the missing features to libscrobbler, you decided to
implement this yourself.

 4) Video clips are ignored
    Small feature, but important.

 In the same email I link above, I replied to you that I wasn't against
 implementing this if there was broader interest from users. Since I
 didn't get much more feedback on this regard it was low in my
 priorities.

Well, I saw many more users asking for this than proxy support.

 [...]
 Then I brought up all the problems to the mailing list [1], and I tried to
 contribute to mafw-lastfm [2], some trivial patches got in, but the
 important ones [3] did not. That was back in February, and at that
 point Claudio (the maintainer) decided to wait until a stable release
 (0.0.4), which was done in April. We are now in June and I haven't heard
 anything.

 Well, as I said already, I told you clearly what were my concerns
 regarding libscrobble. Instead of following up on the discussion, you
 preferred to go your own way and implement yet another scrobbler. Good
 on you.

I already had implemented my own scrobbler in January. I have waited
and waited in the hopes that we could work together in mafw-lastfm.
Five months holding back my sw is just too much.

 So I decided to implement 

Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Menno Jansz me...@jansz.com wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 03:46:25 +0300, Felipe Contreras
 felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
 In other words: maemo-scrobbler Just Works™ ;)

 mafw-lastfm just works too...

Good for you. Perhaps din't noticed the problems fixed in 0.0.5 (Do
not lose cached tracks after returning from offline.) and 0.0.6 (Plug
a very nasty leak.), or perhaps you just don't care.

These problems were never present in maemo-scrobbler, even from Day 1
(before being public), because I decided to start from a
platform-independent library that was easy to test without a real
client. So I wrote scripts to generate fake playlists and try
different scenarios in a systematic manner from my desktop. The
testing included memory leaks detection with valgrind, and resource
profiling with OProfile. All this things are very difficult/impossible
to do when you are working directly on the device through MAFW.

Only when libscrobbler was working perfectly from my desktop did I try
to write a MAFW client.

 Initially I tried to improve mfaw-lastfm, but I noticed so many problems
 that I decided to start from scratch, and soon I had all the
 functionality I wanted.

 Whilst it's your prerogative to re-invent the wheel, as a happy user I
 feel I should point out that it does seem you are belittling Claudio's
 effort with the tone of your email.

I'm not reinventing the wheel. Nobody (including mafw-lastfm) is
providing a platform-independent, simple, well-tested,
freedesktop-friendly scrobbling library. This library can be used on
GNOME, Xfce, Meego, any music player, or an independent D-Bus service.

So now that we have such a library, perhaps it would make sense to use
it in Maemo? I tried that with mafw-lastfm, didn't stick, so now I'm
trying with maemo-scrobbler.

Cheers.

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Re: Displaying thumbnails in listbox gives garbage value

2010-06-03 Thread Pallavi Kandhare
Hi Daniil,
Thanks for the code snippet. It really served my purpose.



  

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Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:39 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:

 Ah, I didn't reply:
 
  1. No now-playing notification
 
 Not a blocker IMO. 

That's *your* opinion. For me, moving to a library that causes loss of
functionality is a no-go unless there are very good reasons to do it,
which was not the case, IMO.

 In fact at least last.fm seems to understand just
 fine that the last scrobbled song is Now Playing due to the
 timestamp. So I fail to see what functionality users will miss.

Not really. A very recently scrobbled track will be displayed as Just
played. The only way to display a track as now playing is through the
now playing notification.

  2. No scrobbling right after the track has finished.
 
 I'm not sure what that means, but if it's related to the fact that I
 decided to scrobble songs each 10 minutes. First, I told you that it's
 not a limitation of libscroble, it's up to the client
 (maemo-scrobbler/mafw-lastfm) to call sr_session_submit() when it sees
 fit[1]. And second, I changed maemo-scrobbled back in January to do
 what you wanted[2]. Also, in the pathches for libscrobble I sent I
 called sr_session_submit() right after metadata_callback(). Therefore,
 as I mentioned, there's no change.

Well, it makes a huge difference to know when a problem doesn't exist
anymore. You could have said this back then when I commented it, but it
seems you were expecting me to follow your progress or dig into your
code just because you deserve it.

  I haven't worked on this yet, because I was fixing other issues that
  were more important. I list them below, even when I am sure that you
  know already.
 
 Yes, and I don't agree with the priorities. To me, as a user, I don't
 care if I cannot scrobble from certain proxified connections to
 last.fm, because even if I do, it would only be to last.fm.

But *you* are not the average user, so please excuse me for not
following your needs to set my priorities. After all, you've shown
enough skills to supply for your needs yourself :)

 So, mafw-lastfm provides at best 50% of what I need (more like 40%);
 that's not acceptable.

Not acceptable for *you*. It's perfectly fine if you disagree on what's
necessary or not for a piece of software, just please don't come to me
telling me what I need to focus on just because something doesn't work
as you expect it.

  I have fixed all the issues with the network handling for at least a
  month now (these were released in 0.0.5).
 
 Well, that's easy to say. I would need to review the code to even be
 slightly confident that that's true. And of course, even if I don't
 see any problems... that's not a guarantee that _all_ the problems are
 fixed.

Do you really want to go into this sort of non-constructive debate? I
don't. And I obviously meant that I fixed all issues known. And that no
new issues have arose since then.

 
  I also implemented support for
  scrobbling behind proxies[1], which is in a branch in gitorious waiting
  to get some testing from users.
 
 Yes, as I said before, I don't think that's important.

That's, once again, *your* opinion. I'll kindly ask you to please stop
pretending I should treat it specially, just because you can write some
code.

  I have also implemented permanent storage during last week and it's
  working fine. I am planning to do a release including this during this
  week, but I was waiting for some translations to come in first [2].
 
 Perhaps it's working fine, or perhaps it has issues with UTF-8, or
 perhaps (quite likely) it's implemented in a non-extensible way which
 would require many changes once multi-scrobbling is supported. I can
 tell you from experience that the latter is quite likely.

Yes, perhaps a lot of things. What is your goal with this speculative
arguing?

UTF-8 is working fine, since I soup_uri_escape() tracks' data before
serializing it. If changes are required to support multiscrobbling, then
changes will be made then, I fail to see what's your point here, other
than to speculate for the sake of doing it.

 
 In any case, you _knew_ libscrobbler supported this, and yet, instead
 of adding the missing features to libscrobbler, you decided to
 implement this yourself.
 
  4) Video clips are ignored
 Small feature, but important.
 
  In the same email I link above, I replied to you that I wasn't against
  implementing this if there was broader interest from users. Since I
  didn't get much more feedback on this regard it was low in my
  priorities.
 
 Well, I saw many more users asking for this than proxy support.

Proxy support is a feature that is not debatable (meaning, no one would
argue whether it's needed or not). Not scrobbling videos is debatable.
Therefore I decided to implement first what's non debatable, waiting for
more input in other stuff before moving.

 
  I don't how to take this. Unfortunately, I was waiting for your feedback
  on my comments. I apologize if you were expecting something different.
 
 Yes, I forgot to reply to your last 

RE: Qt Autorotation

2010-06-03 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 00:39 +0200, ext Felipe Crochik wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 It seems to me that this is an unintended positive side effect instead of
 a planned requirement. I pass the mainwindow pointer to my dialog
 constructors and this should set the parent.
 
 By reading the documentation setParent should be quite useless in this
 scenario because I would be changing the parent to the exact same one
 assigned previously. I believe it just happens to work because setParent
 will hide the just created dialog and then when you call exec or show it
 will probably trigger the window manager recognizing this window as part
 of an autorotation application and adjusting it accordingly.

Yes, the WM makes sure that transient dialogs inherit portrait
properties from the parent (meaning the window they are transient for).
Of course, you could also put the window properties to the dialog window
itself to have the same effect with a system-modal (non-transient)
dialog.

-Kimmo

 
 Regardless, it was a good catch. It will probably help saving a bunch of
 useless lines of code trying to remedy this issue and hopefully on a new
 release it will be fixed so we don't need to artificially reset the parent
 to make the manager adjust the window.
 
 I would say that it is probably worth reporting this as a bug on the
 qt/nokia web site. Have you reported it?
 
 Thanks for updating us on your findings
 Felipe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stefanos Harhalakis [mailto:v...@v13.gr] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:08 PM
 To: Felipe Crochik
 Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org; Luca Donaggio
 Subject: Re: Qt Autorotation
 
 Hello,
 
 On Thursday 27 of May 2010, Felipe Crochik wrote:
  Luca,
  I ran into the same issue - the new windows always start on landscape -
 and
  used the same workaround - checked the screen resolution and when taller
  set the portrait attribute. And yes, I believe you are right, setting the
 
 I had the same problem but it proved to be my fault. If you are using
 QDialogs 
 like me then you only have to be sure that you're setting the main window
 (the 
 one with the portrait mode support) as the parent window. This will give
 nice 
 portrait support and QDialogs will start in the proper condition.
 
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Re: Qt Autorotation

2010-06-03 Thread Stefanos Harhalakis
Hello,

On Thursday 03 of June 2010, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
 Yes, the WM makes sure that transient dialogs inherit portrait
 properties from the parent (meaning the window they are transient for).
 Of course, you could also put the window properties to the dialog window
 itself to have the same effect with a system-modal (non-transient)
 dialog.

I believe you misunderstood the problem:

The original problem was that new windows would not respect the current state. 
If you create a new dialog and set it to auto-rotate, the new dialog will show 
up in landscape mode even if the display was in portrait mode. It is a common 
problem that affects pop-up dialogs.

It can be bypassed by setting a parent window and Felipe explained why.
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Re: Qt Autorotation

2010-06-03 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 14:47 +0200, ext Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Thursday 03 of June 2010, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
  Yes, the WM makes sure that transient dialogs inherit portrait
  properties from the parent (meaning the window they are transient for).
  Of course, you could also put the window properties to the dialog window
  itself to have the same effect with a system-modal (non-transient)
  dialog.
 
 I believe you misunderstood the problem:
 
 The original problem was that new windows would not respect the current 
 state. 
 If you create a new dialog and set it to auto-rotate, the new dialog will 
 show 

Do you set the rotation property before showing the dialog or after?  If
you set it before showing it, it sounds like hildon-desktop bug then...

 up in landscape mode even if the display was in portrait mode. It is a common 
 problem that affects pop-up dialogs.
 
 It can be bypassed by setting a parent window and Felipe explained why.

There should not be a difference. If there is, it's a bug...

-Kimmo


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Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:39 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:

 Ah, I didn't reply:

  1. No now-playing notification

 Not a blocker IMO.

 That's *your* opinion. For me, moving to a library that causes loss of
 functionality is a no-go unless there are very good reasons to do it,
 which was not the case, IMO.

Fine. Take the malevolent dictator approach of maintaining. Have you
considered asking your users?

For me it's very simple:

mafw-lastfm:
last.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: yes
libre.fm: scrobble: no, now playing: no

maemo-scrobbler:
last.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: no
libre.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: no

I think most users would agree that scrobbling is by far #1 use-case
of a scrobbler. Moreover, we are talking about a mobile device, that
can be disconnected from the Internet a good portion of the day, this
whole time now playing wouldn't work, and even after connecting to a
network, there can be a delay up to 2 hours before the handshake to
the service is established.

If that was not enough, now playing is a feature that users would
barely notice (it's just a hint on certain pages of the web
interface).

So, considering this, first, I would implement network connection
detection, and only then now playing makes sense. But I don't see
from which point of view multi-scrobbling is lower priority than now
playing.

 In fact at least last.fm seems to understand just
 fine that the last scrobbled song is Now Playing due to the
 timestamp. So I fail to see what functionality users will miss.

 Not really. A very recently scrobbled track will be displayed as Just
 played. The only way to display a track as now playing is through the
 now playing notification.

Right, what a huge loss of functionality.

  2. No scrobbling right after the track has finished.

 I'm not sure what that means, but if it's related to the fact that I
 decided to scrobble songs each 10 minutes. First, I told you that it's
 not a limitation of libscroble, it's up to the client
 (maemo-scrobbler/mafw-lastfm) to call sr_session_submit() when it sees
 fit[1]. And second, I changed maemo-scrobbled back in January to do
 what you wanted[2]. Also, in the pathches for libscrobble I sent I
 called sr_session_submit() right after metadata_callback(). Therefore,
 as I mentioned, there's no change.

 Well, it makes a huge difference to know when a problem doesn't exist
 anymore. You could have said this back then when I commented it, but it
 seems you were expecting me to follow your progress or dig into your
 code just because you deserve it.

As I already explained many times: THERE IS NO ISSUE; never was.
libscrobble works fine in both scrobbling modes; I didn't make any
change; the change was done in the client: maemo-scrobbler which is
irrelevant for mafw-lastfm. If you had actually read the patches I
sent for libscrobble support, you would have seen that.

  I haven't worked on this yet, because I was fixing other issues that
  were more important. I list them below, even when I am sure that you
  know already.

 Yes, and I don't agree with the priorities. To me, as a user, I don't
 care if I cannot scrobble from certain proxified connections to
 last.fm, because even if I do, it would only be to last.fm.

 But *you* are not the average user, so please excuse me for not
 following your needs to set my priorities. After all, you've shown
 enough skills to supply for your needs yourself :)

So you discriminate certain kinds of users? See
http://bugs.libre.fm/wiki/clients, there are many clients that support
multi-scrobbling. Certainly they must think that it's important
somehow.

 So, mafw-lastfm provides at best 50% of what I need (more like 40%);
 that's not acceptable.

 Not acceptable for *you*. It's perfectly fine if you disagree on what's
 necessary or not for a piece of software, just please don't come to me
 telling me what I need to focus on just because something doesn't work
 as you expect it.

It's not about me; you have 0% support for libre.fm users.

  I have fixed all the issues with the network handling for at least a
  month now (these were released in 0.0.5).

 Well, that's easy to say. I would need to review the code to even be
 slightly confident that that's true. And of course, even if I don't
 see any problems... that's not a guarantee that _all_ the problems are
 fixed.

 Do you really want to go into this sort of non-constructive debate? I
 don't. And I obviously meant that I fixed all issues known. And that no
 new issues have arose since then.

No, I was just highlighting the possibility that there still are
issues there. And to prevent further debate: my best guess is that
mafw-lastfm has more bug potential in this area (I would have to
re-review the code). Since I know both code-bases, I guess my opinion
is worth at least considering, you can disagree, no need to continue
arguing.

  I also implemented support for
  

Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 04:10:28PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:

 mafw-lastfm:
 last.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: yes
 libre.fm: scrobble: no, now playing: no
 
 maemo-scrobbler:
 last.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: no
 libre.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: no
  [...]
 now playing is a feature that users would barely notice

Well, that's a respectable opinion, but I for one consider it one of
the most basic features of any Last.fm client.

And not that I have anything against Libre.fm (quite the contrary),
but I'd say that at this moment it is the lack of Libre.fm support the
feature that most users won't notice.

Berto
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Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Alberto Garcia agar...@igalia.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 04:10:28PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:

 mafw-lastfm:
 last.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: yes
 libre.fm: scrobble: no, now playing: no

 maemo-scrobbler:
 last.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: no
 libre.fm: scrobble: yes, now playing: no
  [...]
 now playing is a feature that users would barely notice

 Well, that's a respectable opinion, but I for one consider it one of
 the most basic features of any Last.fm client.

Well, basic, yes, but important? Can you live with the web interface
showing just listened vs now playing? Or, what would you rather
have a) rock-solid queue handling, or b) support for now-playing? In a
mobile device I think a) is more important, but in a desktop I think
b) is probably the case.

Besides, I believe the best mafw-lastfm can do right now is; if you
are disconnected for two hours, when you are connected back, you don't
have now-playing until two hours pass. I would not consider that
top-notch support for now-playing. So, I don't think loosing that
_temporarily_ in favor of a more generic library with other benefits
(IMHO better suited for mobile) is a bad trade-off.

In any case, I filed an issue for that... you are welcome to vote up:
http://github.com/felipec/maemo-scrobbler/issues#issue/1

 And not that I have anything against Libre.fm (quite the contrary),
 but I'd say that at this moment it is the lack of Libre.fm support the
 feature that most users won't notice.

Yes, but we agree that there must be some users out there, right?
(otherwise other clients would probably not have implemented
multi-scrobbling). Now, would you rather keep a feature that's not
essential to the majority of users, and probably quite marginal, than
providing support for libre.fm users, who can do nothing at all? IOW;
taking a bit from the majority, to give a lot to the minority. I think
not doing that is egotistical.

Anyway, it's probably not worth discussing more. I decided not to
provide now-support and concentrate on multi-scrobbling for v1.0, but
I will do so soon. Feedback is appreciated if you feel this is an
important feature, specially in the form of votes in the issue
tracker.

Cheers.

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Re: [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Kevin Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com 
 wrote:
 That sounds great.  Is there a place to place a suggestion, other than
 filing a bug?  My recommendation would be to also (perhaps optionally)
 ignore podcasts.

 Not really. Perhaps it would make sense to create a mailing list. For
 now I think maemo-devel would be ok.

Apparently the maemo-scrobbler discussion is hurting the sensibilities
of mafw-lastfm developers (whomever they might be). So I've created a
new mailing list:
https://groups.google.com/group/libscrobbler

You are welcome to discuss feature requests there, both for Maemo, and
other systems.

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I smell a bug, but dunno where to file it

2010-06-03 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
It's 8:37am here in Kamloops, BC (-8 UTC).

My Nokia Messaging is set to download e-mails everyday from 8:00 to 23:59.
Yesterday I played a radio station for 1 minute then stopped it and left
Media Player there.

This morning, before 8:00, I tried to tell Modest to download e-mail even
though it was earlier than 8:00
by clicking on the SendReceive, but nothing happened (I guess as
expected?).

8:00 passed and no e-mails. Note , however, this is probably not N900 fault
as my landlord connection is not working very well with my N900 as after a
few minutes I can't browse the web or use Internet (albeit it's connected to
his WiFi).
So, probably, Modest tried, but couldn't connect (but didn't say anything,
it silently failed and even said latest refresh 8:01.

Anyway, these are not the issue I wanted to write.

I leave home at 8:05 and arrive in the office 10 minutes later (small town
:)). I start to work and don't touch the phone.
The N900 knows there's a WiFi it can connect to and I told him to check
every 30 mins.

At 8:37am the N900 plays music... without me telling it anything at all. It
just starts playing music.
I get hold of it, try to understand from where the music comes from and
notice it's Media Player playing the radio station I was playing yesterday.
At the same time I see Modest now downloading e-mails and the notifications
popping up.

I guess, some event must have been fired related to the Internet becoming
available and Modest checked it's watch and noticed it's time to download
e-mails as I kindly asked it to.

But the Media Player?
Why it started? Is it a Media Player issue?
Should I file this bug under Media Player? or is it more a System bug?

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Re: I smell a bug, but dunno where to file it

2010-06-03 Thread Dawid Lorenz
On 3 June 2010 16:46, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess, some event must have been fired related to the Internet becoming
 available and Modest checked it's watch and noticed it's time to download
 e-mails as I kindly asked it to.

 But the Media Player?
 Why it started? Is it a Media Player issue?
 Should I file this bug under Media Player? or is it more a System bug?


You really must have Twitter overloaded ;) See my reply:
http://twitter.com/adlorenz/status/15333794167

Don't know if that's exactly the case, as this bug is in regards to music
resuming after a phone call, but might be related...

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Re: I smell a bug, but dunno where to file it

2010-06-03 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On 3 June 2010 09:23, Dawid Lorenz a...@adl.pl wrote:



 On 3 June 2010 16:46, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess, some event must have been fired related to the Internet becoming
 available and Modest checked it's watch and noticed it's time to download
 e-mails as I kindly asked it to.

 But the Media Player?
 Why it started? Is it a Media Player issue?
 Should I file this bug under Media Player? or is it more a System bug?


 You really must have Twitter overloaded ;) See my reply:
 http://twitter.com/adlorenz/status/15333794167

 Don't know if that's exactly the case, as this bug is in regards to music
 resuming after a phone call, but might be related...


Yeah, weird I didn't get your Tweet ...

But it looks different. The cause maybe the same, but mine is surely
unrelated to calls.
Didn't have any calls for one or two days now..

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Re: I smell a bug, but dunno where to file it

2010-06-03 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On 3 June 2010 09:31, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 June 2010 09:23, Dawid Lorenz a...@adl.pl wrote:



 On 3 June 2010 16:46, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess, some event must have been fired related to the Internet becoming
 available and Modest checked it's watch and noticed it's time to download
 e-mails as I kindly asked it to.

 But the Media Player?
 Why it started? Is it a Media Player issue?
 Should I file this bug under Media Player? or is it more a System bug?


 You really must have Twitter overloaded ;) See my reply:
 http://twitter.com/adlorenz/status/15333794167

 Don't know if that's exactly the case, as this bug is in regards to music
 resuming after a phone call, but might be related...


 Yeah, weird I didn't get your Tweet ...

 But it looks different. The cause maybe the same, but mine is surely
 unrelated to calls.
 Didn't have any calls for one or two days now..


Anyway, filed a bug under Media Player:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10536

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maemo-launcher, Diablo and stderr

2010-06-03 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi,

some time ago I activated maemo-launcher in Conboy and just noticed,
that on my N810/Diablo device I don't get debug output if I start it
from the terminal. If I compile it with deactivated maemo-launcher it
will display output inside the terminal.

Also the N900/Fremantle version outputs its debug output just fine. Even
with enabled maemo-launcher.

Does anyone have a clue why that's happening? Or similar experience?

Thanks!
Conny


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Re: maemo-launcher, Diablo and stderr

2010-06-03 Thread Kamen Bundev
Try launching through maemo-invoker.

Regards:
Bundyo 

- Original message -
 Hi,
 
 some time ago I activated maemo-launcher in Conboy and just noticed,
 that on my N810/Diablo device I don't get debug output if I start it
 from the terminal. If I compile it with deactivated maemo-launcher it
 will display output inside the terminal.
 
 Also the N900/Fremantle version outputs its debug output just fine. Even
 with enabled maemo-launcher.
 
 Does anyone have a clue why that's happening? Or similar experience?
 
 Thanks!
 Conny
 
 
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Re: maemo-launcher, Diablo and stderr

2010-06-03 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 21:02 +0300, Kamen Bundev wrote:
 Try launching through maemo-invoker. 

Thanks, but I do that. /usr/bin/conboy is a soft link
to /usr/bin/maemo-invoker. The real binary is /usr/bin/conboy.launch.

Or do you mean something else?

Thanks!
Conny


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Re: maemo-launcher, Diablo and stderr

2010-06-03 Thread Kamen Bundev
Oh, my bad, maemo-summoner was the console output enabled one.

Regards:
Bundyo

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 21:02 +0300, Kamen Bundev wrote:
  Try launching through maemo-invoker.

 Thanks, but I do that. /usr/bin/conboy is a soft link
 to /usr/bin/maemo-invoker. The real binary is /usr/bin/conboy.launch.

 Or do you mean something else?

 Thanks!
 Conny



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Re: maemo-launcher, Diablo and stderr

2010-06-03 Thread Cornelius Hald
Ah brilliant :) maemo-summoner conboy.launch works beautifully.

Thanks a lot Kamen!
Conny


On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 21:11 +0300, Kamen Bundev wrote:
 Oh, my bad, maemo-summoner was the console output enabled one.
 
 Regards:
 Bundyo
 
 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 21:02 +0300, Kamen Bundev wrote:
  Try launching through maemo-invoker.
 
 
 Thanks, but I do that. /usr/bin/conboy is a soft link
 to /usr/bin/maemo-invoker. The real binary
 is /usr/bin/conboy.launch.
 
 Or do you mean something else?
 
 Thanks!
 Conny
 
 
 


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Re: Alternate Line Service (ALS) support

2010-06-03 Thread Christopher Intemann
Hey Pekka

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Pekka Pessi pekka.pe...@nokia.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 14:07 +0200, ext Christopher Intemann wrote:
  On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Pekka Pessi pekka.pe...@nokia.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
  You can test what the command
 
  dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply=True \
   --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS /com/nokia/csd/ss \
   com.nokia.csd.SS.CheckDivert string:21 string:89
 
  returns. If it does not return error
 
  com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.TeleServiceNotProvisioned: Tele service
  not
  provisioned
 
  you can try to redirect calls to your line 1 number with
  command
 
  dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply=True \
   --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS /com/nokia/csd/ss \
   com.nokia.csd.SS.RegisterDivert string:21 string:89 \
string:line1-number-here uint32:0
 
  Wow, thanks, thats at least a beginning!
  So USSD codes are the only thing that works on line 2,

 Don't know about USSD - of course you can try

 dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply=True \
  --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS /com/nokia/csd/ss \
com.nokia.csd.SS.USSD.Command string:'*#21**89#' string:

 and see what you get for response.

 That does not work.
However, it does not seem to work for line 1 either, therefore it might also
be a limitation by the provider.


 Call-UI does not recognize the non-standard basic service number (89)
 used for ALS, so you can not enter the code directly on call ui.

 So, if the basic service number was also used as beacon for outgoing line2
calls, would it also be possible to use it in connection with the
com.nokia.csd.Call method to invoke outgoing calls on the second line?
By the way, how can I unregister/cancel diverts on the second line?
There does not seem to be a CancelDivert method, and the method DivertCancel
does not accept basic service numbers as arguments (at least, I couldn't
figure out how I could assign them).

 or is there any way to switch to the second line for outgoing calls as
  well? It would also be great if it was possible to set a different
  ring tone for incoming line 2 calls...

 The modem does not support ALS line 2, it would have required special
 modem firmware. With the current modem firware, you can only divert line
 2 calls to line 1.

 This is a bit weired since most Nokia devices DO support ALS. Is there any
good reason for not supplying an ALS-capable firmware?
Thanks in advance!
Chris
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Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyway, my priorities for next are: network detection, then now
 playing, then proxy support. I'm not sure how much it will take me,
 but definitely not five months. Patches are welcome.

In fact, I just released maemo-scrobbler 1.1-1 with all those 3 features:

 * Add support to detect network connections
 * Add support for Now-Playing
 * Add proxy support

I tested by setting up a proxy, playing some stuff (now-playing
works), then switch to a non-proxied connection, play more stuff
(now-playing still works), then go offline, wait a few minutes, go
back online, play more stuff (now-playing still works).

This is the last one to mafw-lastfm ml... for real :p

Enjoy!

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Re: [mafw-lastfm-devel] [ANN] maemo-scrobber 1.0 for last.fm + libre.fm

2010-06-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Felipe Contreras
 felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyway, my priorities for next are: network detection, then now
 playing, then proxy support. I'm not sure how much it will take me,
 but definitely not five months. Patches are welcome.

 In fact, I just released maemo-scrobbler 1.1-1 with all those 3 features:

  * Add support to detect network connections
  * Add support for Now-Playing
  * Add proxy support

 I tested by setting up a proxy, playing some stuff (now-playing
 works), then switch to a non-proxied connection, play more stuff
 (now-playing still works), then go offline, wait a few minutes, go
 back online, play more stuff (now-playing still works).

 This is the last one to mafw-lastfm ml... for real :p

Oh, and I forgot to mention that quite a bit of code chunks come from
the work from Claudio. It would have taken me much longer to find all
that information myself. Thanks!

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