Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Darius Jack
Please unsubscribe me from maemo-developers list
as I am not interested in your fight for maemo comunity leadership.

Maemo community council is not a good idea as long as the community is 
sponsored by a corporation, as it may hurt relations
between community members , community representative body and a corporation.
Developer is any developer.
So developer from Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Samsung, Apple
is still developer in terms of Maemo.org, subject to membership 
in the Maemo community.

So Global Alliance on Open Free Software is the best idea to give independent 
developers some independence and protection of their respective intellectual 
property rights.

Flagship of Maemo is Maemo Mapper.
Maemo Mapper is free open software.
But Maemo Mapper is not open project.
We have only one revision by developer of Maemo Mapper
not a tree of revisions by third party developers.

There is no way to finance developers of free open source applications as they 
refuse  to accept any money for add-on features.
So any such excellent project is free open source software
but Closed Project in fact.

What I suggested months ago was to build projects as
Finite-State-Machine top-down charts
and to have them administered and managed as Open Projects,
inviting third parties to join and co-develop new features, enhancements, to 
have low development time and have really hot software product.

GPS navigation is still a hot product, highly profitable to developers and 
corporations (maps).
One of the hot features is
Map Share incorporated by TomTom.
There is a number of other hot features, which can still be incorporated into 
Maemo Mapper or other open free software development.

Unfortunately Maemo Mapper is one-man Closed Project.
To get it opened one needs to rewrite it as a Finite-State-Machine chart and 
tell third party developers its weak and strong points
and let them know binding points for new features, database connections APIs 
and the like.

Maemo Mapper has still a chance to be No.1 in global gps navigation given new 
features, new add-ons are incorporated.

So as a flagship of Maemo.org, Maemo Mapper is great application and solution 
for any commercial navigation delivered to market
by any corporation, generating profit on selling Linux embedded GPS device.

Unfortunately, at the present state of the art, I see today no new revisions of 
MM by third party developers, showing new features, add-ons, so I name MM as a 
Closed Project, not meeting Finite-State-Machine standards.

To move Closed Projects to Finite-State-Machine Open Projects takes some time 
and efforts, but only acting that way a new quality software products can be 
made in shortest time.

Closing.
Yesterday I had a dream. Great dream.
I was reading news using newspaper-like monitor.
It may take some years my dreams come true.

So please unsubscribe me from maemo-developers list
to let me keep my mailbox free from your fight for leadership at maemo.

Please don't respond.

Darius






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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread nick loeve
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Darius Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please unsubscribe me from maemo-developers list
 as I am not interested in your fight for maemo comunity leadership.

https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

As stated in the footer.

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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread David Greaves
Darius Jack wrote:
 Please unsubscribe me from maemo-developers list
 as I am not interested in your fight for maemo comunity leadership.

phew :)

Someone please help him...
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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Darius Jack wrote:
 Yesterday I had a dream. Great dream.
 I was reading news using newspaper-like monitor.


Wow, just wow. Couldn't resist and did a google search and it looks like 
in Poland he is a living legend called Expierd (funny wordplay on word 
Expert).

If you understand polish check the series 
http://licorea.pl/bart/blog/2007/01/30/ekspierd/

People also collected book of his funny quotations since 1996 here (in 
polish) http://xox.pl/~zamsz/
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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
You're serious ???

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Darius Jack wrote:
 Yesterday I had a dream. Great dream.
 I was reading news using newspaper-like monitor.


 Wow, just wow. Couldn't resist and did a google search and it looks like
 in Poland he is a living legend called Expierd (funny wordplay on word
 Expert).

 If you understand polish check the series
 http://licorea.pl/bart/blog/2007/01/30/ekspierd/

 People also collected book of his funny quotations since 1996 here (in
 polish) http://xox.pl/~zamsz/
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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 You're serious ???


Yes. Sorry if it wasn't clear. What I mean is that it seems Darius has 
relatively rich history of trolling on Polish internet. Too bad I can't 
find babelfish equivalent for PL language, here is also some analysis 
again in polish from 2001 by one of his 'admirers'
http://groups.google.com/group/pl.internet.polip/browse_thread/thread/c927092e6b09f6da/24d5ccf55b4ff862

Frantisek
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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:

 You're serious ???


 Yes. Sorry if it wasn't clear. What I mean is that it seems Darius has
 relatively rich history of trolling on Polish internet. Too bad I can't find
 babelfish equivalent for PL language, here is also some analysis again in
 polish from 2001 by one of his 'admirers'
 http://groups.google.com/group/pl.internet.polip/browse_thread/thread/c927092e6b09f6da/24d5ccf55b4ff862


I've used Google Translate and got it.

No wonder it was so fun to read.
Glad he moved away.

Let's continue our work now. Enough time spent on him.

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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Darius Jack
Hello Frantisek,

just tell me how it works at Maemo.org sponsored by Nokia.
One day discussion on community council is off-topic.
Another day your off-topic spam is on-topic.
What is your communication standard at Maemo.org, sponsored by Nokia.

If you really like to read a lot, visit Semantic Multimedia Magazines (my RD 
Project)

http://groups.google.com/group/metallica4you/web/magazines?hl=en
And let me know your opinion.

Darius



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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Benoît HERVIER
Do not feed the troll ...
(http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg)

2008/6/17 Darius Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello Frantisek,

 just tell me how it works at Maemo.org sponsored by Nokia.
 One day discussion on community council is off-topic.
 Another day your off-topic spam is on-topic.
 What is your communication standard at Maemo.org, sponsored by Nokia.

 If you really like to read a lot, visit Semantic Multimedia Magazines (my RD 
 Project)

 http://groups.google.com/group/metallica4you/web/magazines?hl=en
 And let me know your opinion.

 Darius


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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Bloch
Found this, thought it was relevant.



Regarding Trolls:
A short story at the beginning of the telepathic revolution 0020080617
by Professor S. Blake

broadcaster begins speaking over the sound of birds chirping

I thought trolls were lucky? We should make more in a reprap and give
them to other opensource projects.  Each sugary unit will be an mp3
player that plays music of Sun Ra endlessly in a loop while emitting
atomized highly-evolved nootropic drugs into the air and pulsating
brainwave frequencies of a luxurious variety.

The sky is a sea of darkness when there is no sun to light the way.
The music jams, and then the troll pontificates and decides to make a
non-profit, join an opensource project, and write some code on his
liquid dream screen monitor.

Yeah, he has a dream, it's to transfer his consciousness into
computers and be a conscious avatar that floats between dreams on the
net.  Then with his artificially intelligent neopet in the shape of a
great white horse he'll take the world by storm.

Summon Wind!

fin

camera pans away from a dusty book that has light streaming from the
pages until it reaches a great white light that is shut out by the
closing book, finally leaving only darkness

ending credits

to be read aloud in the voice of a broadcaster

A Rainbow Sky Dragon Wizard of Super Dimensions Production

Brought to you by IQ5000 Brain boosting drinks, Telepathic Horizons
Corporation, Viral Nanobots Inc., and the Center for Extra-Planetary
Life Management.  And the kind support of sentience like you.

Thanks for being present and good way to you.

end transmission


On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Benoît HERVIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do not feed the troll ...
 (http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg)

 2008/6/17 Darius Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello Frantisek,

 just tell me how it works at Maemo.org sponsored by Nokia.
 One day discussion on community council is off-topic.
 Another day your off-topic spam is on-topic.
 What is your communication standard at Maemo.org, sponsored by Nokia.

 If you really like to read a lot, visit Semantic Multimedia Magazines (my 
 RD Project)

 http://groups.google.com/group/metallica4you/web/magazines?hl=en
 And let me know your opinion.

 Darius


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Re: Community council is a representative body - not community leadership (upate2)

2008-06-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Can we please put an end to this thread?

If anyone has any comments on the community council proposal, please
comment on the thread I started yesterday.

Thanks,
Dave.

Paul Bloch wrote:
 Found this, thought it was relevant.

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