Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-23 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2013-02-22 17:28, David W. Hodgins a écrit :



I am just curious, as I was looking at 2TB drives yesterday. Not that I
am planning on buying a 3TB drive, but, is there a reason why Mageia
can't partition a 3TB drive?


The sector numbers in the partition table in the dos style mbr are limited
to 32 bits.  With 512 byte sectors, that means sectors past 2TB cannot be
specified.

Using drives larger than 2TB either means using larger sectors, or a
different style of partitioning, such as a GUID Partition Table, aka
gpt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table

The partitioning tool used in the installer, diskdrake currently only
works with dos style mbr partitioning.

Regards, Dave Hodgins



Thanks for the info and thanks to all of the rest of the people and 
answers after this as well.


It's nice to know.

While I think of it. Is Mageia considering doing anything about this? I 
saw 3TB and 4TB disks on the shelves.


Marc

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Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-22 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2013-02-20 12:47, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Em 20-02-2013 14:07, Papoteur escreveu:

Le 20/02/2013 17:07, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Em 20-02-2013 13:03, Papoteur escreveu:

Le 20/02/2013 16:02, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Having problems trying to configure partition greater than 2 TB.
Is there anything that can be done?

Luiz Alberto Saba


I think you must use GPT partitionning.
Have you tried that?
Papoteur


How can I do that?


Hello,
I never done that, but I found some indication in the wiki:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_with_GPT_Partition_Table
You can use gdisk to prepare partitions before installation.
I hope this help.
Papoteur


It worked!

Thanks




I am just curious, as I was looking at 2TB drives yesterday. Not that I 
am planning on buying a 3TB drive, but, is there a reason why Mageia 
can't partition a 3TB drive?


Cheers,

Marc

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Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-22 Thread David W. Hodgins



I am just curious, as I was looking at 2TB drives yesterday. Not that I
am planning on buying a 3TB drive, but, is there a reason why Mageia
can't partition a 3TB drive?


The sector numbers in the partition table in the dos style mbr are limited
to 32 bits.  With 512 byte sectors, that means sectors past 2TB cannot be
specified.

Using drives larger than 2TB either means using larger sectors, or a
different style of partitioning, such as a GUID Partition Table, aka
gpt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table

The partitioning tool used in the installer, diskdrake currently only
works with dos style mbr partitioning.

Regards, Dave Hodgins


Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-22 Thread Norman Carver
On Friday, February 22, 2013 05:28:18 PM David W. Hodgins wrote:
  I am just curious, as I was looking at 2TB drives yesterday. Not that I
  am planning on buying a 3TB drive, but, is there a reason why Mageia
  can't partition a 3TB drive?
 
 The sector numbers in the partition table in the dos style mbr are limited
 to 32 bits.  With 512 byte sectors, that means sectors past 2TB cannot be
 specified.
 
 Using drives larger than 2TB either means using larger sectors, or a
 different style of partitioning, such as a GUID Partition Table, aka
 gpt.
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
 
 The partitioning tool used in the installer, diskdrake currently only
 works with dos style mbr partitioning.

Glad to know this about diskdrake.

People should also know that many 3TB drives now have 4k sectors
and so continue to work just fine with MBR partitioning.  All the
Seagate external drives I have bought in the last few months are
that way, and come MBR-partitioned with the entire disk in one
primary partition.

Norm





Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-22 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Saturday 23. February 2013 05.38, Norman Carver wrote:
 People should also know that many 3TB drives now have 4k sectors

How can one tell if this is the case?

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Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-22 Thread AL13N
Op zaterdag 23 februari 2013 01:59:32 schreef andre999:
 Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
  On Saturday 23. February 2013 05.38, Norman Carver wrote:
  People should also know that many 3TB drives now have 4k sectors
  
  How can one tell if this is the case?
 
 fdisk -l /dev/sd*
 gives both the logical and physical sector sizes at the top (along with
 other global info), before listing the partitions.
 It gives this info for both mbr and gpt partition tables.
 But it only lists the partitions for an mbr partition table.
 
 gdisk -l /dev/sd*
 gives the logical sector size at the top.  (It might not indicate a
 differing physical sector size, but in any case it is the logical size
 which counts for OS addressing.  The physical size is explicitly
 indicated inside gdisk.)
 It lists the partitions for both mbr and gpt tables (and maybe other
 formats).
 
 Note : sd* should be sda or sdb or ... , according to the disk in question.

when i installed on a 3TB disk, on mga3, i used the rescue to partition it 
with gdisk, and after that, i did the install

those cheap 3TB seagates are good imho i actually bought 6 of those for about 
100EUR/piece


Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-20 Thread Papoteur

Le 20/02/2013 16:02, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Having problems trying to configure partition greater than 2 TB.
Is there anything that can be done?

Luiz Alberto Saba


I think you must use GPT partitionning.
Have you tried that?
Papoteur


Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-20 Thread Luiz Alberto Saba

Em 20-02-2013 13:03, Papoteur escreveu:

Le 20/02/2013 16:02, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Having problems trying to configure partition greater than 2 TB.
Is there anything that can be done?

Luiz Alberto Saba


I think you must use GPT partitionning.
Have you tried that?
Papoteur


How can I do that?


Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-20 Thread Papoteur

Le 20/02/2013 17:07, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Em 20-02-2013 13:03, Papoteur escreveu:

Le 20/02/2013 16:02, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Having problems trying to configure partition greater than 2 TB.
Is there anything that can be done?

Luiz Alberto Saba


I think you must use GPT partitionning.
Have you tried that?
Papoteur


How can I do that?


Hello,
I never done that, but I found some indication in the wiki:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_with_GPT_Partition_Table
You can use gdisk to prepare partitions before installation.
I hope this help.
Papoteur


Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-20 Thread Luiz Alberto Saba

Em 20-02-2013 14:07, Papoteur escreveu:

Le 20/02/2013 17:07, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Em 20-02-2013 13:03, Papoteur escreveu:

Le 20/02/2013 16:02, Luiz Alberto Saba a écrit :

Having problems trying to configure partition greater than 2 TB.
Is there anything that can be done?

Luiz Alberto Saba


I think you must use GPT partitionning.
Have you tried that?
Papoteur


How can I do that?


Hello,
I never done that, but I found some indication in the wiki:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_with_GPT_Partition_Table
You can use gdisk to prepare partitions before installation.
I hope this help.
Papoteur


It worked!

Thanks



Re: [Mageia-discuss] Can't I use a 3TB disk?

2013-02-20 Thread bascule
On Wednesday 20 Feb 2013 18:07:31 Papoteur wrote:
 You can use gdisk to prepare partitions before installation.
 I hope this help.

gparted will create a gpt disk and create the partitions too, nice gui app if 
you are not sure about command line

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