Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/23/2012 9:47 PM, Felipe Gasper wrote:
 No INSTALL file in the tarball?
 
 For folks like me who aren’t savvy with Python’s installers and were
 expecting to find configure/make, it would help a great deal.
 
 
 This may be the wrong list for this, but just in case I stumbled on the
 right way to install it, I got this when doing sudo python setup.py
 install:


The installation is

python bootstrap.py
bin/buildout

This and the following steps are described in more detail in
src/mailman/docs/START.rst

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] python 3

2012-03-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
 Not all of that will be needed.  For example, I do want to eventually get rid
 of zc.buildout, zope.testing, and zope.testrunner, so some of those
 dependencies will go away as a result of that.

But presumably new dependencies will be added to support those
functions, and while Python 3 support is an important desideratum,
for replacements, I don't think that it's a good idea to let it override
quality in the implementation of dependencies.
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
 Hello Mailman enthusiasts!

 I'm also ecstatic to announce the first alpha release of Postorius, our new
 official name for the Django-based Mailman 3 web user interface.  The name was
 suggested by core developer Florian Fuchs in honor of a bass hero of both of
 ours, Jaco Pastorius.  Postorius 1.0 alpha 1 is code named Space Farm.

I can't wait for Gene Simmons and Tal Wilkenfeld! :-)
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] python 3

2012-03-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 24, 2012, at 03:41 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
 Not all of that will be needed.  For example, I do want to eventually get rid
 of zc.buildout, zope.testing, and zope.testrunner, so some of those
 dependencies will go away as a result of that.

But presumably new dependencies will be added to support those
functions, and while Python 3 support is an important desideratum,
for replacements, I don't think that it's a good idea to let it override
quality in the implementation of dependencies.

Agreed.  However, In these cases, there are already compelling technical
reasons to find replacements.

-Barry


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