Re: [Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development
On 03/19/2012 11:02 PM, Terri Oda wrote: On 03/19/2012 03:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: At this point, I don't know whether the best approach is look for a more complete development box for Vagrant or figure out how to provision the basic Vagrant box with what I need or forget Vagrant and install directly in VirtualBox or go with a dual-boot. Anyway, it's going to be interesting to figure this out. Incidentally, how much interest would there be in having a Mailman-developer VM (say, for VirtualBox) around and easy to download? Some modern distro, appropriate dev tools, and a checkout of moderately recent code, maybe even ready to run with instructions on the desktop or something? It seems like it might be a nice thing to hand out to prospective GSoC students as well as Mark. ;) The Systers folk made one a few years ago for 2.1 dev and maybe it's time for an updated version? Terri That sounds like a good idea :) In this case, maybe something declarative with puppet/vagrant might really be a very good idea, since it's much easier to ship a configuration file and it has to be deployed / updated easily... ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development
On 03/19/2012 03:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: At this point, I don't know whether the best approach is look for a more complete development box for Vagrant or figure out how to provision the basic Vagrant box with what I need or forget Vagrant and install directly in VirtualBox or go with a dual-boot. Anyway, it's going to be interesting to figure this out. Incidentally, how much interest would there be in having a Mailman-developer VM (say, for VirtualBox) around and easy to download? Some modern distro, appropriate dev tools, and a checkout of moderately recent code, maybe even ready to run with instructions on the desktop or something? It seems like it might be a nice thing to hand out to prospective GSoC students as well as Mark. ;) The Systers folk made one a few years ago for 2.1 dev and maybe it's time for an updated version? Terri ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development
On 3/19/2012 4:02 PM, Terri Oda wrote: Incidentally, how much interest would there be in having a Mailman-developer VM (say, for VirtualBox) around and easy to download? Some modern distro, appropriate dev tools, and a checkout of moderately recent code, maybe even ready to run with instructions on the desktop or something? It seems like it might be a nice thing to hand out to prospective GSoC students as well as Mark. ;) I think it would be great. I'm not sure how fast I will progress with this, but I may be the one to make it. If it were available right now, I would certainly use it. I'm currently thinking about VirtualBox vs. dual boot. I'm used to working with Cygwin command windows on my Windows desktop. There are various issues with Cygwin, both itself and WRT MM 3, so I need to move away from that. VirtualBox would allow me to continue to work in a hybrid environment with some Windows applications and some Unix like applications running together, but dual boot might avoid potential hardware interface issues and would motivate me to move completely away from Windows (although I would probably still need access to Windows to diagnose user problems with the web site I admin). Of course, I could always do both. The two machines I would do this on both have two 200GB+ hard drives with lots of available space so disc is not a problem. My travel computer has 8GB of ram and a dual-core 64 bit CPU, so that's plenty I'm sure. My main, at home computer is over 10 years old and has only 2GB of ram and a Pentium 4 CPU, but I think even it would be OK. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development
On Mar 19, 2012, at 05:02 PM, Terri Oda wrote: On 03/19/2012 03:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: At this point, I don't know whether the best approach is look for a more complete development box for Vagrant or figure out how to provision the basic Vagrant box with what I need or forget Vagrant and install directly in VirtualBox or go with a dual-boot. Anyway, it's going to be interesting to figure this out. Incidentally, how much interest would there be in having a Mailman-developer VM (say, for VirtualBox) around and easy to download? Some modern distro, appropriate dev tools, and a checkout of moderately recent code, maybe even ready to run with instructions on the desktop or something? It seems like it might be a nice thing to hand out to prospective GSoC students as well as Mark. ;) The Systers folk made one a few years ago for 2.1 dev and maybe it's time for an updated version? +1 is an understatement. :) -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development
On Mar 19, 2012, at 06:17 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm currently thinking about VirtualBox vs. dual boot. I'm used to working with Cygwin command windows on my Windows desktop. There are various issues with Cygwin, both itself and WRT MM 3, so I need to move away from that. VirtualBox would allow me to continue to work in a hybrid environment with some Windows applications and some Unix like applications running together, but dual boot might avoid potential hardware interface issues and would motivate me to move completely away from Windows (although I would probably still need access to Windows to diagnose user problems with the web site I admin). From a technical standpoint, you can run Windows in a virtual machine hosted on Linux. :) -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development
* On 19 Mar 2012, Terri Oda wrote: Incidentally, how much interest would there be in having a Mailman-developer VM (say, for VirtualBox) around and easy to download? Some modern distro, I'm not very active around here anymore, but I'll toss this to the table: maybe a public ec2 AMI? A sponsoring foundation could even host an account with IAM (Amazon IDM) to run them under and pay for the AMI storage. -- David Champion • d...@uchicago.edu • IT Services • University of Chicago ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
