Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Log file

2005-05-24 Thread nikos
Thank you Mark again.

I administrative some lists in an Linux RH8 with mailman-2.1.1-5 ver.
It seems to be problem with one of the lists with only 10 users. The
most of them sudenly doesnot recieve mails from the list and they get a
bounce score (1 or 2). The rest normally get emails.
Is that strange? The list stop sending mails to scored users?

bounce_score_threshold is 5 and bounce_info_stale_after is 7

Thank you again

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:49 PM
To: nikos; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Log file


nikos wrote:

Do also know what cause the bounce. Is somethng I should do?

The actual returned bounce notice is not kept. If you set
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable to Yes, you will receive a copy of the
bounce notice that results in a member disable, but not the previous
ones that just increment the score.

You should set bounce_score_threshold and bounce_info_stale_after to
values appropriate for the amount of traffic on your list. The normal
default values of 5.0 and 7 days respectively are appropriate for lists
with posts every day, but a list with only one or two posts a week might
do better with 2.0 and 14 days respectively.

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[Mailman-Users] Easing the unsubscription

2005-05-24 Thread David Ocaña
Hi,

I'd like to know if there is a way to include on each post the member's 
address to make the unsubscription easier. I receive too many 
unsubscription mails from addresses that are not members, just because 
the member of the list is an alias of these non-members, then I have to 
contact those people for asking if they want to unsubscribe the alias or 
their single address (will be their admin's work of course), and finally 
find the alias in the memberlist which fortunately will have the same 
domain as the people who are trying to unsubscribe.

Is it possible to attach a message like This mail was sent to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to unsubscribe, please email us to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and from [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Thanks a lot.

P.S: Sorry for mistakes  ¬_¬'


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Easing the unsubscription

2005-05-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:33 AM +0200 2005-05-24, David Ocaña wrote:

  Is it possible to attach a message like This mail was sent to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to unsubscribe, please email us to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and from [EMAIL PROTECTED].

You mean, like the Unsubscribe: link that is put at the bottom 
of every post to mailman-users -- including your own?

Try searching the FAQ Wizard for personalization and read all 
the entries that are returned.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Easing the unsubscription

2005-05-24 Thread David Ocaña
Thanks Brad, actually somebody removed the non digest message footer, 
I've been searching the List Administration Manual and finally I've 
done this:

For enabling personalization and other options:

/VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1
//VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
//VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = 1/

For including the message footer(non digest):

msg_footer

This mail was sent to %(user_address)s.
If you want to unsubscribe please email us to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit 
%(user_optionsurl)s
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Brad Knowles escribió:

 At 10:33 AM +0200 2005-05-24, David Ocaña wrote:

  Is it possible to attach a message like This mail was sent to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to unsubscribe, please email us to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and from [EMAIL PROTECTED].


 You mean, like the Unsubscribe: link that is put at the bottom 
 of every post to mailman-users -- including your own?

 Try searching the FAQ Wizard for personalization and read all 
 the entries that are returned.


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[Mailman-Users] pipermail.pck ?????

2005-05-24 Thread Jean-Philippe GIOLA
Hi all

I want to know what is the pipermail.pck file in the 
archives/list_name/pipermail.pck ??

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Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail.pck ?????

2005-05-24 Thread Jim Tittsler
On May 24, 2005, at 20:50, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:

 I want to know what is the pipermail.pck file in the
 archives/list_name/pipermail.pck ??

(I think you mean archives/private/listname/pipermail.pck.)

It is a pickle that stores the state of the pipermail archiver for a  
particular list.  It stores information about the archive table of  
contents, sequence number, last update time, etc.  You can find more  
information in Mailman/Achiver/*


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Log file

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
nikos wrote:

I administrative some lists in an Linux RH8 with mailman-2.1.1-5 ver.
It seems to be problem with one of the lists with only 10 users. The
most of them sudenly doesnot recieve mails from the list and they get a
bounce score (1 or 2). The rest normally get emails.
Is that strange? The list stop sending mails to scored users?

bounce_score_threshold is 5 and bounce_info_stale_after is 7

If they are getting a bounce score in the bounce log, it means the
list IS sending and the messages are bouncing. If you want to see why,
go to the list's Bounce options page, make sure that
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes and set bounce_score_threshold
to 1. Then the first bounce will disable the user, and the list
owner(s) will be sent a copy of the bounce. Then, if you feel the
bounce is erroneous, you can raise the bounce_score_threshold and
re-enable the user (from the Membership Management... pages).

The above assumes that a direct e-mail to the user doesn't bounce.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Easing the unsubscription

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Ocaña wrote:

Thanks Brad, actually somebody removed the non digest message footer, 

Brad was talking about the footer on messages you receive from
mailman-users@python.org, not your own list.

I've been searching the List Administration Manual and finally I've 
done this:

For enabling personalization and other options:

/VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1
//VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
//VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = 1/


These are OK for what they do, but they are not what you need. In order
to enable the personalized substitutions in the footer as below, you
need

OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes

and then you will see the personalization options on the Non-digest
options page, and you can set personalize to Yes.


For including the message footer(non digest):

msg_footer

This mail was sent to %(user_address)s.
If you want to unsubscribe please email us to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit 
%(user_optionsurl)s
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[Mailman-Users] Moderated list

2005-05-24 Thread Tariq Javaid
I am still having trouble where I can set my list to a moderated list.
I would like to view all of the messages reviewed by admin before they
get posted. I check all the settings but it does not work. I have
messages to be held in the queue but when I post a message they never
appeared in the queue. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] move lists?

2005-05-24 Thread Paul Reilly

Is there a way to export the contents of a config.pck file
in to text format, so I can see what settings an old mailing
list was using?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated list

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tariq Javaid wrote:

I am still having trouble where I can set my list to a moderated list.
I would like to view all of the messages reviewed by admin before they
get posted. I check all the settings but it does not work. I have
messages to be held in the queue but when I post a message they never
appeared in the queue. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

What do you mean by when I post a message they never appeared in the
queue? Do you mean the message wasn't held?

You should (and maybe have) set default_member_moderation to Yes, but
have you set all current member's moderation flag to Yes?

Go to the bottom of the Membership Management...-Membership List page
and in

Additional Member Tasks

Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently
visible

click the Yes radio option and then click the Set button.

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[Mailman-Users] database directory ??

2005-05-24 Thread Jean-Philippe GIOLA
Hi all!!

What is the content of the database directory in 
archives/public/list-name/datebase ???

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Re: [Mailman-Users] move lists?

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Reilly wrote:


Is there a way to export the contents of a config.pck file
in to text format, so I can see what settings an old mailing
list was using?

bin/config_list will produce an output file suitable for input to
itself.

bin/dumpdb will show more.

But, if you're moving a list, why not just move the config.pck file. As
long as you're not moving to a downgrade version of mailman, this
works (although you may have to run fix_url.py afterwards if the move
is to a different domain).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] database directory ??

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:

What is the content of the database directory in 
archives/public/list-name/datebase ???

Normally, archives/public/list-name/ is a symlink to
archives/private/list-name/

archives/private/list-name/database contains files for each archive
volume, e.g.

2005-May-article
2005-May-author
2005-May-date
2005-May-subject
2005-May-thread

These contain the current state of the archive and I think are used by
pipermail to help in the process of adding messages and updating the
various index files in, e.g., archives/private/list-name/2005-May

For more info, see the modules in Mailman/Archiver/*.py

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[Mailman-Users] Why are we seeing these errors?

2005-05-24 Thread Gustine, Charity G.
We just recently installed Mailman 2.1 on our Unix server. We have gone
over the install document several times to see what we missed. We would
like our users to be able to send an email to the list with subject
subscribe. When we test this we never see the mail messages.
It would appear that it is a domain issue. Here is what we see in the
logs when we try to do this: 
-Original Message- 
From: Postmaster [mailto:Postmaster; mailto: ] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:20 AM 
To: Undisclosed Recipient 
Subject: Delivery Notification
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
This is a delivery status notification, automatically generated by MTA
extmail12.cingular.com on Tue, 24 May 2005 13:20:21 -0400 Regarding
recipient(s) : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery status : Failed. Could not send the message. Domain address
bthnsoweb01.wnsnet.attws.com is not valid. Please consult your domain
administrator to check the domain before sending the message again.
Message Information: 
Sender : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Recipient : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MTA Response :510 
The original message headers are included as attachment. 
We are able to get confirmation, via email, when we create a new mailing
list. 
When we subscribe to a list via the web site we successfully get
subscribe and a confirmation email is sent back to the user, after about
10 minutes. 
We are seeing this message in /usr/local/mailman/logs 
May 24 08:00:03 2005 (16988) delivery to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: 5.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown.
Any ideas? 



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[Mailman-Users] integrating namazu with mailman

2005-05-24 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Hi

I am using the info found here http://mail.python.org/pipermail/ 
mailman-users/2004-June/037580.html as well as various similar stuff  
I found through google.  However, this link is my main info.

I have namazu installed and followed the instructions found in the  
above link.

When I try a search on my test list, I get a 500 Internal Server  
Error and the following line in my apache error log.

[Tue May 24 12:46:42 2005] [error] [client XX.XX.XX.XX] Premature end  
of script headers: /web/host.com/mailman/cgi-bin/Admin-List/namazu.cgi

It seems that the cgi is not being called correctly.  Here is what it  
is calling

(from the access log)

XX.XX.XX.XX - - [24/May/2005:12:46:42 -0600] GET /mailman/Admin-List/ 
namazu.cgi?query=namazusubmit=Search%21idxname=Admin- 
Listmax=20result=normalsort=score HTTP/1.1 500 628


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Has anyone who has implemented this, or anyone else who has an idea,  
see what is wrong with the query and my namazu.cgi would not return  
correct stuff?

Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are we seeing these errors?

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gustine, Charity G. wrote:

We just recently installed Mailman 2.1 on our Unix server. We have gone
over the install document several times to see what we missed. We would
like our users to be able to send an email to the list with subject
subscribe. When we test this we never see the mail messages.
It would appear that it is a domain issue. Here is what we see in the
logs when we try to do this: 
-Original Message- 
From: Postmaster [mailto:Postmaster; mailto: ] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:20 AM 
To: Undisclosed Recipient 
Subject: Delivery Notification
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
This is a delivery status notification, automatically generated by MTA
extmail12.cingular.com on Tue, 24 May 2005 13:20:21 -0400 Regarding
recipient(s) : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery status : Failed. Could not send the message. Domain address
bthnsoweb01.wnsnet.attws.com is not valid. Please consult your domain
administrator to check the domain before sending the message again.


This looks like a DNS issue. There don't appear to be any MX or A
records for the domain. This has nothing to do with Mailman. Mail
can't be delivered to the domain.


Message Information: 
Sender : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Recipient : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MTA Response :510 
The original message headers are included as attachment. 
We are able to get confirmation, via email, when we create a new mailing
list. 
When we subscribe to a list via the web site we successfully get
subscribe and a confirmation email is sent back to the user, after about
10 minutes. 
We are seeing this message in /usr/local/mailman/logs 
May 24 08:00:03 2005 (16988) delivery to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: 5.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown.

This one looks like an alias issue.

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[Mailman-Users] How do I link into the archive page to control access

2005-05-24 Thread precision
I have a site with multiple email lists (all private).  It's easy to keep 
unwanted persons from posting to the lists, but I would like to tie 
into/replace 
the main archive page for each list with a php script tied into the site which 
uses the user information/privileges that are already built into the web site 
to 
control access to the list.  The web site uses the users email as their account 
and it is password protected.  I have a privilege mechanism set up on the site 
to grant users access to various functionality.  I'd like to use that same 
mechanism to grant privilege to viewing the lists.  Is there a way that I can 
replace the default archive page with a php version which I could tie the 
existing privilege/security mechanism that already exists on the web site and 
control access to viewing the list through it?
Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] check_perms -f leads to cgi error

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Scott
I'm fairly certain this problem was caused by my running check_perms -f when 
troubleshooting another issue, since resolved, but right after fixing that when 
attempting to access the web interface I got a 403 for everything. admin, 
listinfo, etc. I went to a backup of the site and copied the permissions for 
the cgi_bin and public_html (which contains symlinks to the actual cgi 
scripts.) Now apache is tossing a 500 (internal server e) and the error log 
reads: 
Premature end of script headers: admin

I'm almost positive this started when I ran check_perms -f, if has anyone seen 
this kind of error before or has any ideas what could be the cause I'd really 
appreciate it.

Cheers,


Rob Scott
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[Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-24 Thread Bo Gusman
On my FC3 box w/o SELinux, I just installed and configured the mailman 
rpm according to the instructions at the mailman website. I can create a 
list from the command line and can send mail to it and receive mail from 
it. I can load the web interface and do most of the usual things. 
However, I cannot create a new list. I've reset the site password 
assuming that I missentered it somehow, but I get no change in behavior.

Any clues?

Bo

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bo Gusman wrote:

On my FC3 box w/o SELinux, I just installed and configured the mailman 
rpm according to the instructions at the mailman website. I can create a 
list from the command line and can send mail to it and receive mail from 
it. I can load the web interface and do most of the usual things. 
However, I cannot create a new list. I've reset the site password 
assuming that I missentered it somehow, but I get no change in behavior.


What is the symptom? What happens when you click Create List?

Are you using virtual hosts? Is the host name in the URL of the create
page in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary (add_virtualhost() in mm_cfg.py)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-24 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 13:52 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 On my FC3 box w/o SELinux, I just installed and configured the mailman 
 rpm according to the instructions at the mailman website. I can create a 
 list from the command line and can send mail to it and receive mail from 
 it. I can load the web interface and do most of the usual things. 
 However, I cannot create a new list. I've reset the site password 
 assuming that I missentered it somehow, but I get no change in behavior.
 
 Any clues?

Did you install the Red Hat rpm?

Are you positive SELinux is disabled? There was a bug in the FC3
security policy that caused web based list creation to fail, command
line worked fine.

Have you looked for error messages in /var/log/mailman/error
and /var/log/messages (in /var/log/messages you especially want to look
for lines with avc)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I link into the archive page to controlaccess

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a site with multiple email lists (all private).  It's easy to keep 
unwanted persons from posting to the lists, but I would like to tie 
into/replace 
the main archive page for each list with a php script tied into the site which 
uses the user information/privileges that are already built into the web site 
to 
control access to the list.  The web site uses the users email as their 
account 
and it is password protected.  I have a privilege mechanism set up on the site 
to grant users access to various functionality.  I'd like to use that same 
mechanism to grant privilege to viewing the lists.  Is there a way that I can 
replace the default archive page with a php version which I could tie the 
existing privilege/security mechanism that already exists on the web site and 
control access to viewing the list through it?

If I understand it, you want to replace Mailman's private archive
access control with your own php based one.

I think you could make the archives public and add your php to the
archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html templates, but this would allow
people to bypass your validation by going directly to a message or
lower level page. You might be able to do it effectively by modifying
more templates, but I'm not sure.

See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp
for info on modifying templates. After you modify an archive template,
you have to rebuild the archives (normally just
bin/arch --wipe listname
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Re: [Mailman-Users] check_perms -f leads to cgi error

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rob Scott wrote:

I'm fairly certain this problem was caused by my running check_perms -f when 
troubleshooting another issue, since resolved, but right after fixing that 
when attempting to access the web interface I got a 403 for everything. admin, 
listinfo, etc.

What was in your web server error log when you were getting the 403's?

I went to a backup of the site and copied the permissions for 
the cgi_bin and public_html (which contains symlinks to the actual cgi 
scripts.) Now apache is tossing a 500 (internal server e) and the error log 
reads: 
Premature end of script headers: admin


check_perms wouldn't have done anything in public_html because it
doesn't know about it, and anyway, the permissions on a symlink itself
should be irrelevant. Assuming you have sufficient access to read the
symlink, it's the targets permissions that count.


I'm almost positive this started when I ran check_perms -f, if has anyone seen 
this kind of error before or has any ideas what could be the cause I'd really 
appreciate it.


Unless there's something wrong with MAILMAN_USER and/or MAILMAN_GROUP
in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py (or MAILMAN_UID and/or MAILMAN_GID in
mm_cfg.py if this is a RedHat rpm) I don't know how check_perms -f
would break anything.

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[Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2005-05-24 Thread Kris Vassallo
I am getting emails with the following error in the body of emails being
sent to the list owner:  
/bin/sh: mailman: command not found

The subject reads as follows: 
[Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news

The path is correct as I have copied and pasted the path listed in the
email to the terminal and the process seems to run fine. 

In this thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg29250.html
someone suggested that There is something wrong with the options you
used when you ran

configure. The command mailman indicated above should be the command

to invoke Python and it also normally has a -S option too. 

The thing is, this is an RPM package for fedora core 3 (2.1.5-32) so I
didn't do any configuring. I am not really understanding why this is
failing. Can anyone shed some light on this issue for me? 

Thanks, 
Kris



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Re: [Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kris Vassallo wrote:

I am getting emails with the following error in the body of emails being
sent to the list owner:  
/bin/sh: mailman: command not found

The subject reads as follows: 
[Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news


Your Mailman crontab is not correctly installed. The crontab.in or
whatever that you used is designed to be put in /etc/cron.d/, and thus
it has the executing userid as field 6 between the run times
parameters and the command.

If you install it with

crontab -u mailman crontab.in

or whatever the file name is, you first have to remove the 'mailman'
entries preceding the commands.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2005-05-24 Thread John Dennis
Kris Vassallo wrote:
 
 I am getting emails with the following error in the body of emails being
 sent to the list owner:  
 /bin/sh: mailman: command not found
 
 The subject reads as follows: 
 [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman
 /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news

Somehow you've got crontab entries enabled with a non-crontab file.
Reading the section on cron in /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT
may help you understand better. But the short answer is the cron file
supplied in the rpm you installed has an extra field in it at position
6, the mailman user. It is to be installed in /etc/cron.d. However
please note this is automatically done for you by the init.d script when
you start and stop mailman, please use the the init script to start and
stop mailman (e.g. /sbin/service mailman start|stop). If you installed
this cron file with crontab its is going to be very confused by the
extra 6th field. Please make sure you do not have any mailman crontab
entries and remember crontab != cron. The rpm you installed is supposed
to remove any pre-existing mailman crontab entries in favor of the newer
methodology. If one got left behind after the rpm install then the %post
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[Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-24 Thread Jess Mooers
Hi list,

I am somewhat new to mailman, so please bear with me.  I currently have 5 lists 
running, all configured differently, and when it is working, I love mailman.

I have now encountered 3 situations where the qrunner stops or quits.  We don't 
know that the system is not running correctly until our clients let us know 
(VERY BAD).  I have one client in particular that I could loose if this happens 
again.  

So here is my question:

Is there a way to monitor qrunner to see if it is running?
Is there a way to start it automatically if it is not?

I am running Mac OS 10.3 Server, on an XServe, 250GB HD, 3Gigs of ram.  Any 
help ASAP would be so greatly appreciated.

Regards,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jess Mooers wrote:

So here is my question:

   Is there a way to monitor qrunner to see if it is running?

If it is running, you will find its pid in data/master-qrunner.pid and
there will also be two files in locks/, one named master-qrunner and
containing the line

master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid

And the second named master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid and having the
same contents where host.example.com is the actual host name and pid
is the actual pid of the master qrunner process.

Thus there are three files that if present will give you the pid of the
master qrunner. Of course, if it died a horrible death, the files
might be left behind, so you also have to check if the pid is running
and is a mailmanctl process. If the files are missing or the pid
doesn't exist or is not a python process invoked with a mailmanctl
command, then the master qrunner isn't running.

   Is there a way to start it automatically if it is not?


You can test all of that in a fairly simple shell script which will run

bin/mailmanctl -s -q start

if the master isn't running and then execute that shell script every 5
or 10 minutes with cron.

Or you can just run

bin/mailmanctl start

periodically with cron, but that will generate an error each time it is
done with the master already running.

And don't do 

bin/mailmanctl -s start

without testing first or you'll start multiple masters and qrunners.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2005-05-24 Thread Kris Vassallo
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 16:05, John Dennis wrote:

 Kris Vassallo wrote:
  
  I am getting emails with the following error in the body of emails being
  sent to the list owner:  
  /bin/sh: mailman: command not found
  
  The subject reads as follows: 
  [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman
  /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
 
 Somehow you've got crontab entries enabled with a non-crontab file.
 Reading the section on cron in /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT
 may help you understand better. But the short answer is the cron file
 supplied in the rpm you installed has an extra field in it at position
 6, the mailman user. It is to be installed in /etc/cron.d. However
 please note this is automatically done for you by the init.d script when
 you start and stop mailman,

Ah ha! I followed the instructions on the Mailman website for
installation as I was unaware of the docs that already existed on my
system; so I had run the crontab command to get the cron jobs running.
So I removed  mailmans crontab entries and restarted Mailman.. works
like a charm now. 
THANKS! 
-Kris

  please use the the init script to start and
 stop mailman (e.g. /sbin/service mailman start|stop). If you installed
 this cron file with crontab its is going to be very confused by the
 extra 6th field. Please make sure you do not have any mailman crontab
 entries and remember crontab != cron. The rpm you installed is supposed
 to remove any pre-existing mailman crontab entries in favor of the newer
 methodology. If one got left behind after the rpm install then the %post
 section of the rpm is failing somehow.
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