[Mailman-Users] bounce_processing=0 has no affect?

2005-05-25 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello,

I've searched mailing list archives and the bug tracker on this, but 
have not come up with anything relevant yet:

I've got a couple of mailing lists (Mailman 2.1.5) for which 
bounce_processing is set to 0, yet Mailman still processes bounces 
(disabling delivery, then unsubscribing users who exceed the 
thresholds).

AM I misunderstanding the description of the bounce_processing option, 
or is there a patch I have yet to discover?


Thank you - Ivan Fetch.
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[Mailman-Users] txt file and txt.gz file

2005-05-25 Thread Jean-Philippe GIOLA
Hi all!

concretely, what is the serve of the  txt files in the archives 
considering there are the files mbox?

And what is the serve of the  txt.gz files ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] txt file and txt.gz file

2005-05-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:35 AM +0200 2005-05-25, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:

  concretely, what is the serve of the  txt files in the archives
  considering there are the files mbox?

The txt files are the scrubbed text version of the public 
archives of the list.  By scrubbed, I mean that all extraneous 
headers are removed, the e-mail addresses may be sanitized, the list 
headers and footers are added, etc

The mbox files are the unscrubbed original text versions of the 
messages as they came in, and would be needed if you wanted to 
rebuild the archives.  Trying to rebuild the archives from the 
scrubbed text versions would be painful and difficult, and would lose 
a lot of information you might want to keep internally.  If you ever 
want to have the ability to rebuild your archives, you need to keep 
the original mbox files around.

  And what is the serve of the  txt.gz files ?

They are compressed versions of the scrubbed text archives.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating namazu with mailman

2005-05-25 Thread Sean

 Hi

 I am using the info found here http://mail.python.org/pipermail/
 mailman-users/2004-June/037580.html as well as various similar stuff
 I found through google.  However, this link is my main info.

 I have namazu installed and followed the instructions found in the
 above link.

 When I try a search on my test list, I get a 500 Internal Server
 Error and the following line in my apache error log.

 [Tue May 24 12:46:42 2005] [error] [client XX.XX.XX.XX] Premature end
 of script headers: /web/host.com/mailman/cgi-bin/Admin-List/namazu.cgi

 It seems that the cgi is not being called correctly.  Here is what it
 is calling

 (from the access log)

 XX.XX.XX.XX - - [24/May/2005:12:46:42 -0600] GET /mailman/Admin-List/
 namazu.cgi?query=namazusubmit=Search%21idxname=Admin-
 Listmax=20result=normalsort=score HTTP/1.1 500 628


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 I can access the namazu command on the command line and it seems to
 work.

 Has anyone who has implemented this, or anyone else who has an idea,
 see what is wrong with the query and my namazu.cgi would not return
 correct stuff?

 Thanks
 Chad

Are you running Apache as your web server?  Here is what the apache docs
say about this:

  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-F.html#premature-script-headers

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[Mailman-Users] [install] set-gid bit

2005-05-25 Thread Peter Schnitzler
Hello,

i am trying to install mailman as a normal user on the system of my  
webhoster, because he does not have a mailsystem that good.

Even though i did:

chmod a+rx,g+ws mailmanrun/

I am still getting the following error.

checking permissions on /home/sites/www.afser.de/users/portal/ 
mailmanrun/... configure: error:
* Installation directory /home/sites/www.afser.de/users/portal/ 
mailmanrun/ is not configured properly!
* Set-gid bit must be set for directory: /home/sites/www.afser.de/ 
users/portal/mailmanrun/


Does anybody know what to do?

greetings and thanks in advance
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-25 Thread Robert Haack
What would happen if during the check you told mailman to stop first?  
Could this mess things up or would it be fine?

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Programmer Analyst
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Mark Sapiro wrote:

Jess Mooers wrote:
  

So here is my question:

  Is there a way to monitor qrunner to see if it is running?



If it is running, you will find its pid in data/master-qrunner.pid and
there will also be two files in locks/, one named master-qrunner and
containing the line

master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid

And the second named master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid and having the
same contents where host.example.com is the actual host name and pid
is the actual pid of the master qrunner process.

Thus there are three files that if present will give you the pid of the
master qrunner. Of course, if it died a horrible death, the files
might be left behind, so you also have to check if the pid is running
and is a mailmanctl process. If the files are missing or the pid
doesn't exist or is not a python process invoked with a mailmanctl
command, then the master qrunner isn't running.

  

  Is there a way to start it automatically if it is not?




You can test all of that in a fairly simple shell script which will run

bin/mailmanctl -s -q start

if the master isn't running and then execute that shell script every 5
or 10 minutes with cron.

Or you can just run

bin/mailmanctl start

periodically with cron, but that will generate an error each time it is
done with the master already running.

And don't do 

bin/mailmanctl -s start

without testing first or you'll start multiple masters and qrunners.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-25 Thread Jess Mooers
Robert Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wednesday, May 25, 2005:

What would happen if during the check you told mailman to stop first?  
Could this mess things up or would it be fine?

Robert Haack


Robert,

I actually just setup the cron job to execute with the following command.  It 
does produce an error in the log, but that is the least of my worries, nor do I 
mind it.

/usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -q start

Thanks for the replies.

Regards,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-25 Thread John Dennis
 Mark Sapiro wrote:
 If it is running, you will find its pid in data/master-qrunner.pid and
 there will also be two files in locks/, one named master-qrunner and
 containing the line
 
 master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid
 
 And the second named master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid and having the
 same contents where host.example.com is the actual host name and pid
 is the actual pid of the master qrunner process.
 
 Thus there are three files that if present will give you the pid of the
 master qrunner. Of course, if it died a horrible death, the files
 might be left behind, so you also have to check if the pid is running
 and is a mailmanctl process. If the files are missing or the pid
 doesn't exist or is not a python process invoked with a mailmanctl
 command, then the master qrunner isn't running.

Mark's point about the presence of the file not being a definitive
metric of mailman health should not be ignored. You really have to
ascertain the status of the process. If mailman is abnormally aborting,
which is what started this thread, then there is a high degree of
probably the lock files will be left behind and testing them will give
false positives.

In the Red Hat mailman RPM's we've modified mailmanctl so that it can be
asked the status of the mailman process as an unprivledged user and
return the result as status to the shell as well as printing a message.
Since mailmanctl knows how to locate the process and communicate with
the process via signals it makes mailmanctl the optimal reporter of
status. It was probably an oversight mailmanctl never had this facility.
We have also integrated this with the mailman init.d script so that one
can perform the standard service mailman status command. The init.d
script depends on the exit status of mailmanctl status. These two
changes probably represent a more robust and standard way to determine
status.

I'm attaching our patch for this in case someone finds it useful.

On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 08:13 -0700, Robert Haack wrote:
 What would happen if during the check you told mailman to stop first?  
 Could this mess things up or would it be fine?

Yes you could do that, it is essentially the same thing as service
mailman restart if you're running on an OS that supports sysV style
service management.
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError in 2.1.5p1

2005-05-25 Thread Richard Pickett
I have two lists running off of one server.  One list has 9,000+
members, the other 500+.  The lists do not work properly, when we send
email through them not all the recipients receive emails that are
subscribed to the lists even though their settings are set for them to
receive the emails.

I've been seeing this mailed back to me from cron once a day:

cron

Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python2 -S
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cron/disabled

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cron/disabled, line 220, in
?
main()
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cron/disabled, line 176, in
main
members = mlist.getDeliveryStatusMembers(who)
  File
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py,
line 159, in getDeliveryStatusMembers
if self.getDeliveryStatus(member) in status]
  File
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py,
line 139, in getDeliveryStatus
self.__assertIsMember(member)
  File
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py,
line 113, in __assertIsMember
raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

/cron

Today when I went to lookup a user on a list, I signed in as admin, went
to member's list, entered full email address in find box and hit enter
and this is what I get:

find results
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5p1
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks! 
Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in
run_main
main()
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line
198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line
498, in show_results
form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line
881, in membership_options
names = [mlist.getMemberName(s) or '' for s in all]
  File
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py,
line 131, in getMemberName
self.__assertIsMember(member)
  File
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py,
line 113, in __assertIsMember
raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Python information:
Variable
Value
sys.version
2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux
3.2.2-4)] 
sys.executable
/usr/bin/python2 
sys.prefix
/usr 
sys.exec_prefix
/usr 
sys.path
/usr 
sys.platform
linux2 

Environment variables:
Variable
Value
HTTP_ACCEPT 
image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword,
application/x-shockwave-flash, */* 
CONTENT_TYPE 
multipart/form-data; boundary=---7d51572ab115f0 
HTTP_REFERER 
http://subscriptions.radiantrecords.com/mailman/admin/subscription_subsc
riptions.radiantrecords.com/members 
SERVER_SOFTWARE 
Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2
mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.10 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.22
OpenSSL/0.9.7a 
PYTHONPATH 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman 
SCRIPT_FILENAME 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/admin 
SERVER_ADMIN 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
SCRIPT_NAME 
/mailman/admin 
REQUEST_METHOD 
POST 
HTTP_HOST 
subscriptions.radiantrecords.com 
PATH_INFO 
/subscription_subscriptions.radiantrecords.com/members 
SERVER_PROTOCOL 
HTTP/1.1 
QUERY_STRING 
letter=0 
HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL 
no-cache 
REQUEST_URI 
/mailman/admin/subscription_subscriptions.radiantrecords.com/members?let
ter=0 
CONTENT_LENGTH 
1114 
HTTP_USER_AGENT 
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR
1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Alexa Toolbar) 
HTTP_CONNECTION 
Keep-Alive 
HTTP_COOKIE 
subscription_subscriptions.radiantrecords.com+admin=28020069d4028a42
7328003739613631613062616661316261306131323839666530366431366335
373538383039313532 
SERVER_NAME 
subscriptions.radiantrecords.com 
REMOTE_ADDR 
12.202.221.241 
REMOTE_PORT 
1072 
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE 
en-us 
PATH_TRANSLATED 
/home/radiantr/public_html/subscriptions/subscription_subscriptions.radi
antrecords.com/members 
SERVER_PORT 
80 
GATEWAY_INTERFACE 
CGI/1.1 
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING 
gzip, deflate 
SERVER_ADDR 
216.135.35.95 
DOCUMENT_ROOT 
/home/radiantr/public_html/subscriptions/ 

/find results

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating namazu with mailman

2005-05-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC

On May 25, 2005, at 5:32 AM, Sean wrote:



 (from the access log)

 XX.XX.XX.XX - - [24/May/2005:12:46:42 -0600] GET /mailman/Admin- 
 List/
 namazu.cgi?query=namazusubmit=Search%21idxname=Admin-
 Listmax=20result=normalsort=score HTTP/1.1 500 628


 Are you running Apache as your web server?  Here is what the apache  
 docs
 say about this:

   http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-F.html#premature-script- 
 headers


I figured out the problem.  The directory the cgi was in had a bad  
owner.

Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Filtering with procmail.

2005-05-25 Thread Niels Richter
Hello mailman-users,

I'm running a mailman-installation at a seperat server. It only gets
the mails, an spread them to the users. The SPAM-filtering is running
at another machine but also the SPAM-marked mails are send to the
mailman-server.

So my problem is to get procmail in contact with the incoming mails to
filter this mails. I read two interessting articles at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.015.htp
and
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.023.htp
but after doing this steps I got the problem, that after rebuilding
the aliases-file my changes to that file were overwritten.

My question is: does someone have a solution for this problem or is
there a better method to filter already marked SPAM-Mails? Maybe I can
use some files from this page:
 http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin 

Or would it be the best to install spamassassin also at the
mailman-server an follow the instructions linked above?

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[Mailman-Users] bounce-problem

2005-05-25 Thread Niels Richter
Hello mailman-users,

some subscribers of different lists have a bounce-problem. The server
their mailadresses are hosted at, is discarding mails send from hosts
that didn't exists.

The subscribers getting SPAM-Mails through one list they are
subscribed in at my system. Now mailman is getting back the bounces
(because the mail, mailman was delivering is not accepted from the
other server) and thinks their are problems with the mailadresses and
is starting the bounce-procedure.

But the mailadress is working and the user also geting the notice,
that he can reactivate his subscription with a link (by the way: the
link is not working, it always tells him, that the time is over for
link-activation).

One solution would be to mark and discard the SPAM and not to forward
it to the user. Okay, that's why I wrote the other mail :) But is
their also another possibility, maybe a whitelist for bounce-procedure
(setting up the IP or Domain of the users) or something in this way?
Some special settings, but please system-wide, because the users are
subscribed in more than 10 lists per user.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
John Dennis wrote:

Did you install the Red Hat rpm?

Are you positive SELinux is disabled? There was a bug in the FC3
security policy that caused web based list creation to fail, command
line worked fine.

Have you looked for error messages in /var/log/mailman/error
and /var/log/messages (in /var/log/messages you especially want to look
for lines with avc)
  

So, I just uninstalled mailman via yum and reinstalled from source and 
get exactly the same behavior. I am returned to the create list page 
with no error messages indicated anywhere - not in any of the logs, nor 
in the browser. Ack, this is really strange.

I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?

/usr/sbin/getenforce


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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
John Dennis wrote:

On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
  

I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?



/usr/sbin/getenforce


  

Says disabled - whew. So the question remains, why no new list? I 
suppose I can live with creating lists from the command line as there 
will not likely be very many lists, but it'd sure be nice if I knew why 
the web interface failed. Everything else seems to work just fine.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:44 AM -0400 2005-05-25, John Dennis wrote:

  I'm attaching our patch for this in case someone finds it useful.

The attachment was stripped.  Could you post it as a patch at the 
SourceForge page instead?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError in 2.1.5p1

2005-05-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:06 AM -0500 2005-05-25, Richard Pickett wrote:

  Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python2 -S
  /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cron/disabled

You're using CPanel.  See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp.

Beyond that, I don't have any answers to the specific problems 
you're seeing.

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[Mailman-Users] From field ?

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Reilly

I am using Mailman 2.1.4

Is it possible to set the From field in the messages that the list
sends out? At the moment it appears as:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

But I'd like a decriptive field in there too, so the From field
shows a gecos type name. Something like:

ListName  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is that possible?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:36 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 John Dennis wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?
 
 /usr/sbin/getenforce
 
 Says disabled - whew. So the question remains, why no new list? I 
 suppose I can live with creating lists from the command line as there 
 will not likely be very many lists, but it'd sure be nice if I knew why 
 the web interface failed. Everything else seems to work just fine.

That is as much as I can help you with at the moment in the absence of
any error messages in any of the logs. Given the problem you were seeing
sounded a lot like a known issue with one version of the FC3 security
policy it sounded at first like I might know what was going on, but
since SELinux is off it can't be that issue. Sorry I can't be of more
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-25 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 19:39 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
 At 11:44 AM -0400 2005-05-25, John Dennis wrote:
 
   I'm attaching our patch for this in case someone finds it useful.
 
   The attachment was stripped.  Could you post it as a patch at the 
 SourceForge page instead?

Yeah, I should have known it would have been stripped. Patch id is
1208685.

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[Mailman-Users] Emergency Moderation/NonMod Trouble

2005-05-25 Thread Barbara Brust
I am having a problem with sending out email blasts to an 
announcement ONLY list. I have it set on Emergency Moderation and 
have a few email addresses that are admins, as well as moderators, 
and yes, they are list members too, with their MOD turned off.
Now I am NOT able to send out email from any of these addresses. The 
only way I can is to send, then log on to release it via 
authorization. I have notice of auth. turned off since I really want 
announce ONLY. Have message stating that to any attempts.

I am not sure, but i think this used to work. no prob.
Now though... yikes.
I have been working with local tech support and what i keep hearing 
from them is i have to go in to authorize. this is not per the text 
in the admin panels.
Any ideas?
even if shell access is necessary, i can get the tech support to do 
it if i know what to do.,

HELP
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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
Ok, here's another clue. I was apparently wrong when I said previously 
that all else was working well.

It turns out that I can submit a subscription request to the mailman 
site list and the administrator gets a notification to visit the admin 
page to take action. When I attempt to approve the subscription, I am 
immediately returned to the admin page again with no action having been 
taken.

I also manually subscribed a user and went to the web page to 
unsubscribe that user. I enter the address of the user to unsubscribe 
and click the unsub or edit options button.  I see the page member 
options for user [EMAIL PROTECTED] and when I click the Unsubscribe button, 
I get an error message no address given. I've looked at the page 
source and can see a hidden input field with [EMAIL PROTECTED] clearly listed.

I'm beginning to suspect something with python or cgi, but some things 
seem to work.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:25 PM -0700 2005-05-25, Bo Gusman wrote:

  I'm beginning to suspect something with python or cgi, but some things
  seem to work.

Sounds like you might be having the classic redirect problem. 
See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
Thanks gents for your continuing help. I think I've solved the problem.

Brad gave me pointers to some FAQ items that have changed the behavior. 
I think part of the problem was related to the apache redirect that I 
was making to ssl. Then, creating the list showed an error on the screen 
that says: We encountered a bug ... mailman log.

/var/log/mailman/error showed

May 25 15:42:27 2005 (5427) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias 
/etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

Searching the faq again revealed: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=editfile=faq06.009.htp

ls -l /etc/mailman/aliases* showed

660 aliases
620 aliases.db

Clearly wrong. Reset them according to the faq, 660.

I'm guessing the original problem was due to ssl redirect and the perms 
problem an artifact of installing the rpm and removing, installing from 
source and removing, and then reinstalling from rpm. I'll do some 
additional testing tonight and see what happens.

Thanks again!

Bo


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Emergency Moderation/NonMod Trouble

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Barbara Brust wrote:

I am having a problem with sending out email blasts to an 
announcement ONLY list. I have it set on Emergency Moderation and 
have a few email addresses that are admins, as well as moderators, 
and yes, they are list members too, with their MOD turned off.
Now I am NOT able to send out email from any of these addresses. The 
only way I can is to send, then log on to release it via 
authorization. I have notice of auth. turned off since I really want 
announce ONLY. Have message stating that to any attempts.


Emergency moderation is just that. Everyone is moderated regardless of
their individual moderation status. So it is working just as it should.

If you turn emergency off, then posts from moderated users will be
handled according to member_moderation_action and posts from users
with moderation off will be accepted without intervention.

A better way to handle announce only lists is to moderate everyone and
then authorized posters can be gived the list password and post with an

Approved: list password

either as a header or as the first line of the body of the post
(followed by a blank line because the following line is stripped along
with the Approved: line in some versions).

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Filtering with procmail.

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Niels Richter wrote:

I'm running a mailman-installation at a seperat server. It only gets
the mails, an spread them to the users. The SPAM-filtering is running
at another machine but also the SPAM-marked mails are send to the
mailman-server.

So my problem is to get procmail in contact with the incoming mails to
filter this mails.

The way we do it is we don't use MTA aliases for mailman at all. We
tell the MTA to send all mail for the domain to procmail. Then, rules
in .procmailrc use envelope to in order to decide to what address to
forward the mail or in what mailbox to store the mail or if it's a
mailman list, the command to pipe it to mailman. Here's an excerpt
from .procmailrc

EnvelopeTo = $1


:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-admin$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-bounces$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-confirm$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-join$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-leave$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-owner$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-request$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-subscribe$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
:E
* EnvelopeTo ?? ^mailman-unsubscribe$
|sudo -u mailman /var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman



My question is: does someone have a solution for this problem or is
there a better method to filter already marked SPAM-Mails?

Another way is to use header_filter_rules (in Privacy options...-Spam
filters) to recognize your spam markings and discard the spam, but the
earlier in the process that you can dump it, the better.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] From field ?

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Reilly wrote:

Is it possible to set the From field in the messages that the list
sends out? At the moment it appears as:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

But I'd like a decriptive field in there too, so the From field
shows a gecos type name. Something like:

ListName  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is that possible?

Not without modifying code.

You could look at the definition of GetRequestEmail() in
Mailman/MailList.py. This could easily be changed to return what you
want, but it's used in a lot of places and I don't know that something
won't break, i.e. no warranties - try at your own risk.

e.g. change

def GetRequestEmail(self):
return self.getListAddress('request')

to (watch the line wrap)

def GetRequestEmail(self):
return '%s %s' % (self.real_name,
self.getListAddress('request'))


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