[Mailman-Users] pipermail and external archiver

2005-07-08 Thread Jean-Philippe GIOLA
Hi all

Is it possible to have both pipermail and an external archiver working 
together ?
Im actually using un external archiver (it's an archiver in php that I 
have developped - it work very well!!) and when i go to my list archive 
page (server/pipermail/list_name), it say that there is no archive 
available for that list

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[Mailman-Users] sql support

2005-07-08 Thread Terry
Hello,

I have an existing db/table that contains the email, name, password. Does 
mailman support any other authentication methods? sql, pam, etc.

Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4

2005-07-08 Thread John Dennis
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 11:54 +0900, Jim Tittsler wrote:
 On Jul 8, 2005, at 04:59, Darren G Pifer wrote:
  [...] from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to  
  look
  in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading
 
 Did you look in your Apache error logs?  There may be a Python  
 traceback there that would narrow down the problem.

I'm pretty sure that 2.1.6b (as well as 2.1.6) have enabled stealth
mode. This prevents stack traces from being visible on the web page for
security reasons (you used to be able to see the stack traces). To
analyze what caused a bug you'll need the stack trace. Although the
stack trace is no longer visible it is logged on the system hosting
mailman, I believe in the mailman error.log file, its location will be
installation dependent (/var/log/mailman, /usr/local/mailman/log are
common locations).
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Re: [Mailman-Users] sql support

2005-07-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:31 AM -0500 2005-07-08, Terry wrote:

  I have an existing db/table that contains the email, name, password. Does
  mailman support any other authentication methods? sql, pam, etc.

There are third-party SQL MemberAdapters, but they are not 
included as part of the standard Mailman package, no.  You'd need to 
download a suitable patch from the SourceForge page.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail and external archiver

2005-07-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:05 PM +0200 2005-07-08, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:

  Is it possible to have both pipermail and an external archiver working
  together ?

If you modify the source code to call them both, or if you modify 
the aliases to send a copy of the message to Mailman and your 
external archiver, then yes.

Otherwise, no.

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[Mailman-Users] THANKS Re: web configuration interface

2005-07-08 Thread Michael Gmail
Many thanks to all who responded--everything seems (knock on wood) to  
be running smoothly now.

Michael


On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Jim Tittsler wrote:

 In addition to adding those lines to your mm_cfg.py (depending upon  
 how your Defaults.py was configured), you may need to follow those  
 lines with:

 VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
 add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

 (and *then* restart mailman and run ~mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r  
 fix_url )


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[Mailman-Users] The newaliases file and the fact that it's not needed

2005-07-08 Thread Richard Hobbs
Hello,

I have just installed anc configured mailman on our mail server, and it
seems to be working perfectly.

I added the system aliases into /etc/aliases and configured exim as per
the documentation on the mailman web site. I configured it in such a way
that exim didn't need to know about new mailing lists.

However, even though mailman is handling mailing lists successfully without
them being in /etc/aliases, every time I create a new list, I get the
following email:

==
The mailing list `it' has been created via the through-the-web
interface.  In order to complete the activation of this mailing list, the
proper /etc/aliases (or equivalent) file must be updated.  The program
`newaliases' may also have to be run.

Here are the entries for the /etc/aliases file:

it:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post it
it-admin:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin it
it-bounces:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces it
it-confirm:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm it
it-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join it
it-leave:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave it
it-owner:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner it
it-request:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request it
it-subscribe:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe it
it-unsubscribe:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe it
==

Is there a way I can tell mailman that this doesn't actually have to be
done, so it can stop reminding me, or will we continue to get these emails
regardless?

Or... Do I actually *need* to add the stuff above into /etc/aliases? There
is currently no mention of an 'it' mailing list on /etc/aliases at the
moment, and mailman is processing mail for it perfectly, but if this just
luck?

Below are the two sections which I added to /etc/exim4/exim4.conf:

==
# Mailman stuff
# Home dir for your Mailman installation -- aka Mailman's prefix
# directory.
MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman
MAILMAN_WRAP=MAILMAN_HOME/mail/wrapper

# User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid
# switch to Mailman's configure script.
MAILMAN_USER=list
MAILMAN_GROUP=list
# End of Mailman stuff
==

==
# Mailman stuff
mailman_router:
  driver = accept
  require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck
  local_part_suffix_optional
  local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \
  -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \
  -owner : -request : -admin
  transport = mailman_transport
# End of Mailman stuff
==

Does anyone know why this is happening? I guess mailman doesn't know that
exim is configured to not care about new lists, but is there a way to tell
it?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help :-)

Richard Hobbs.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4

2005-07-08 Thread Darren G Pifer
Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen
anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything
logged to mailman's logs either.

Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause
security implications but may need to do this temporarily to
find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman
2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will
fix the problem.

Darren
Old Dominion University

On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 09:50, John Dennis wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 11:54 +0900, Jim Tittsler wrote:
  On Jul 8, 2005, at 04:59, Darren G Pifer wrote:
   [...] from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to  
   look
   in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading
  
  Did you look in your Apache error logs?  There may be a Python  
  traceback there that would narrow down the problem.
 
 I'm pretty sure that 2.1.6b (as well as 2.1.6) have enabled stealth
 mode. This prevents stack traces from being visible on the web page for
 security reasons (you used to be able to see the stack traces). To
 analyze what caused a bug you'll need the stack trace. Although the
 stack trace is no longer visible it is logged on the system hosting
 mailman, I believe in the mailman error.log file, its location will be
 installation dependent (/var/log/mailman, /usr/local/mailman/log are
 common locations).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4

2005-07-08 Thread John Dennis
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:08 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote:
 Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen
 anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything
 logged to mailman's logs either.
 
 Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause
 security implications but may need to do this temporarily to
 find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman
 2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will
 fix the problem.

You may want to read the doc here: http://www.list.org/faq.html and
search for STEALTH.

I spoke in error, the local logging is not to your mailman error log but
rather to syslog. Please note syslog is handled differently on different
systems, you may have to tweak your syslog configuration to log the
mailman errors.

The only way I know of to disable STEALTH_MODE is to change its
hardcoded setting in the driver script, you will have to locate this
file and edit it. However, if you can, it really would be better to get
your syslog working, you do want these errors logged and it really is
better to keep sensitive information out of the public eye.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] A problem with Your new mailing list emails

2005-07-08 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Jul 9, 2005, at 00:49, Richard Hobbs wrote:

 I have noticed another small problem with the Your new mailing list
 emails, and the web page it redirects you to after creation of a  
 list... The
 URL's are missing a slash:

 
 You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:

 http://mail.domain/cgi-bin/mailmanadmin/test

Does your DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN end in a '/'?  (It is set by default in  
Defaults.py, and may be over-ridden in your mm_cfg.py.)   
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' is typical, but some  
packagers include cgi-bin in the path/URL.

Is the deprecated variable DEFAULT_URL = None?  (At least some  
packagers set it to something else.)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] The newaliases file and the fact that it's not needed

2005-07-08 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Jul 9, 2005, at 00:18, Richard Hobbs wrote:

 Does anyone know why this is happening? I guess mailman doesn't  
 know that
 exim is configured to not care about new lists, but is there a way  
 to tell
 it?

Set:
MTA = None
in your mm_cfg.py.  (See the documentation in Defaults.py.)


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