[Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Hi I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix. mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that problem I hope someone can help me. system suse linux 9.0 postfix 2.0.14 apache 2 Julian Ohm -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Julian Ohm wrote: Hi I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix. mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that problem I hope someone can help me. system suse linux 9.0 postfix 2.0.14 apache 2 I had the same problem a few months ago, it still doesn't work. The prefix is not put in the subject, but it is put in the subject in archives. http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg32852.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Julian Ohm wrote: Hi I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix. mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that problem I hope someone can help me. system suse linux 9.0 postfix 2.0.14 apache 2 Julian Ohm -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/chappy%40bagaluden.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp also the reply header is not cleared. I can do what i want. the mail reply is always to sender. not to list. It seems that some functions don't work as they should Julian Ohm -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Julien Francoz CoCoZ wrote: Julian Ohm wrote: Hi I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix. mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that problem I hope someone can help me. system suse linux 9.0 postfix 2.0.14 apache 2 I had the same problem a few months ago, it still doesn't work. The prefix is not put in the subject, but it is put in the subject in archives. http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg32852.html Strange. At least the prefix '[dept-linux/pedago]' works at my test site. What is your version of Python and what is your list language settings? I may be able to look into the problem if you can send me the copy of original post message. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail to some users get lost or are very late
John Dennis schrieb: On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 16:38 +0200, Götz Reinicke wrote: Hi, we run mailman mailman-2.1.5-33.rhel4 on a RHEL 4 Clone (Tao Linux 4, kernel 2.6.9-11.ELsmp). Some days ago, some users noticed, that they dont get all mails send to the mailinglists they are subscribed to or that they get the mails with a delay from some days or weeks :-( I checked the quota, forward, alias and mailman settings for thouth users, but everything seams O.K. for me. We use sendmail as MTA and dovecot as imap server. Any ideas what to check? Or waht info to provide? You're going to have to identify one of the delayed emails and look at it's headers to see where it was held up. You might also look at /var/log/maillog and the /var/log/mailman/smtp logs to see if and when the suspect messages were processed. Missing mail may have also bounced. Once your MTA hands off a set of mail to a destination SMTP server a whole host of things can happen to it that has nothing to do with your server. Your best bet is to verify from the logs the mail left your server when you expected it to. The mailman server is also our central mailserver for our domain and the users subscribed to the list are local users. The mailmanlogs showed me an failed with code 452: 4.5.3 Too many recipients-error, so I looked at the max rcpts settings of mailman and sendmail. sendmail accepted 100 rcpts, while mailman sended 500 (SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500). But I never had this problem bevore and the settings are set from the begining of the installation (couple of month ago.) I removed the restriction from sendmail but Mails get still lost or are delayed (only for some users eg. one testmail to myselve was delayed by about 20 Minutes) In the maillog I found the following: timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input Any more ideas? Thanks best regards Götz -- Götz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problems upgrading to Fedora4
I've upgraded from Fedora 2 to FC4 and and are using mailman version 2.1.35. It works fine, except for one thing; the old list members are gone. How can I retrieve them? Greetings from Finn Sindre Eliassen, Norway -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
At 9:42 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Julian Ohm wrote: also the reply header is not cleared. I can do what i want. the mail reply is always to sender. not to list. It seems that some functions don't work as they should That sounds like a problem with your MUA, not Mailman. Have you checked your Thunderbird settings? Or are you using a different MUA for that stuff? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail
At 10:10 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote: Is it possible to use pipermail as public or private external archiver ? If it is, how ? The current version of Pipermail is fully integrated into Mailman. You can't use it as an external archiver, because it is the de-facto standard internal archiver. If you wish to use Pipermail with a different MLM system, that's a different matter. I think it would be very hard to separate the Pipermail stuff from Mailman, although there is probably an older version of Pipermail (pre-integration) which you could use if you chose. If you're looking at external archiving systems, mhonarc is usually considered pretty good stuff. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail to some users get lost or are very late
At 10:52 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Götz Reinicke wrote: I removed the restriction from sendmail but Mails get still lost or are delayed (only for some users eg. one testmail to myselve was delayed by about 20 Minutes) You're much better off having Mailman slice things up into 100 recipient chunks, and then having each smaller chunk handed off to sendmail. That way you can get more of the chunks processed in parallel, and get overall better throughput rates. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems upgrading to Fedora4
At 11:11 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Finn Sindre Eliassen wrote: I've upgraded from Fedora 2 to FC4 and and are using mailman version 2.1.35. There is no version 2.1.35 for Mailman. You either have this number wrong, or you are using a binary packaged version of Mailman where the people who created the binary package have developed their own incompatible version scheme. If you're using a binary package version, you need to talk to the people who created that -- we provide only the Python source code in our tarballs. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Brad Knowles wrote: At 9:42 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Julian Ohm wrote: also the reply header is not cleared. I can do what i want. the mail reply is always to sender. not to list. It seems that some functions don't work as they should That sounds like a problem with your MUA, not Mailman. Have you checked your Thunderbird settings? Or are you using a different MUA for that stuff? I tried that with thunderbird and ms outlook. with both clients I have the same problems. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail
Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:10 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote: Is it possible to use pipermail as public or private external archiver ? If it is, how ? The current version of Pipermail is fully integrated into Mailman. You can't use it as an external archiver, because it is the de-facto standard internal archiver. I know that it is fully integrated into Mailman... But I want to use the pipermail's python scripts for external archiver like : PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = 'path_to_pipermail_script' It is possible to use external script like hypermail or monhrac, so i think it can be possible to use in the same way pipermail script of mailman If you wish to use Pipermail with a different MLM system, that's a different matter. I think it would be very hard to separate the Pipermail stuff from Mailman, although there is probably an older version of Pipermail (pre-integration) which you could use if you chose. If you're looking at external archiving systems, mhonarc is usually considered pretty good stuff. -- Cordialement, Jean-Philippe Giola - 6577 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
On Jul 12, 2005, at 15:52, Julian Ohm wrote: I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix. mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that problem Did you set DELIVERY_MODULE to 'Sendmail' in your mm_cfg.py (rather than the *strongly* recommended 'SMTPDirect')? The Subject prefix is not added when using the 'Sendmail' module. (As the header of Sendmail.py warns, that module is not intended for production use.) -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Jim Tittsler wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 15:52, Julian Ohm wrote: I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix. mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that problem Did you set DELIVERY_MODULE to 'Sendmail' in your mm_cfg.py (rather than the *strongly* recommended 'SMTPDirect')? The Subject prefix is not added when using the 'Sendmail' module. (As the header of Sendmail.py warns, that module is not intended for production use.) no I'm using smtpdirect -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail to some users get lost or are very late
Brad Knowles schrieb: At 10:52 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Götz Reinicke wrote: I removed the restriction from sendmail but Mails get still lost or are delayed (only for some users eg. one testmail to myselve was delayed by about 20 Minutes) You're much better off having Mailman slice things up into 100 recipient chunks, and then having each smaller chunk handed off to sendmail. That way you can get more of the chunks processed in parallel, and get overall better throughput rates. O.K. I've done this, but still mails aren'd deliverd to all subscribed accounts :-((( Götz Reinicke -- Götz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail
At 11:29 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote: I know that it is fully integrated into Mailman... But I want to use the pipermail's python scripts for external archiver like : PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = 'path_to_pipermail_script' It is possible to use external script like hypermail or monhrac, so i think it can be possible to use in the same way pipermail script of mailman Sorry, doesn't work that way. If you want to use Pipermail, then don't configure an external archiver, but use the existing internal archiver stuff. If you want to use something else, then configure an external archiver. But you can't use Pipermail as an external archiver. Please tell us what you think you're trying to accomplish with this idea, and maybe we can tell you a better way to actually do that. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail to some users get lost or are very late
At 11:51 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Götz Reinicke wrote: O.K. I've done this, but still mails aren'd deliverd to all subscribed accounts :-((( Then the next thing to do is turn on personalization for the list(s) in question, so that you can check the log entries for each and every recipient separately. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail
Brad Knowles wrote: At 11:29 AM +0200 2005-07-12, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote: I know that it is fully integrated into Mailman... But I want to use the pipermail's python scripts for external archiver like : PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = 'path_to_pipermail_script' It is possible to use external script like hypermail or monhrac, so i think it can be possible to use in the same way pipermail script of mailman Sorry, doesn't work that way. If you want to use Pipermail, then don't configure an external archiver, but use the existing internal archiver stuff. If you want to use something else, then configure an external archiver. But you can't use Pipermail as an external archiver. Please tell us what you think you're trying to accomplish with this idea, and maybe we can tell you a better way to actually do that. I want to have both pipermail and an external archiver that I have developped in php -- Cordialement, Jean-Philippe Giola - 6577 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail
At 12:09 PM +0200 2005-07-12, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote: Please tell us what you think you're trying to accomplish with this idea, and maybe we can tell you a better way to actually do that. I want to have both pipermail and an external archiver that I have developped in php I think that's pretty much an either-or situation. I don't think you can have both. At least, not without modifying the source code. Since I'm not a programmer, I can't tell you what you'd have to modify in order to get them both working at the same time for the same list(s). -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
On Jul 12, 2005, at 18:43, Julian Ohm wrote: Jim Tittsler wrote: Did you set DELIVERY_MODULE to 'Sendmail' in your mm_cfg.py (rather than the *strongly* recommended 'SMTPDirect')? The Subject prefix is not added when using the 'Sendmail' module. Sorry, this is bogus. (It is the msg_footer/header that are not added in the SMTPDirect case, so not relevant to your problems.) The Reply-To: munging and the Subject: prefixing should both be happening in CookHeaders. The subject prefixing is different based on the character set used for the list, but the reply-to munging isn't, so I can't think of a reason that fits both your symptoms. -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Format to enter list of users with names
In the Mailman web GUI, there is a field for a name associated with an email address. Is there a format to use for a tab sep list so that the name AND address can be imported via the Mass Subscribe? So far, I have only been successful doing a Mass Subscribe of email alone. NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrative requests oddity
On Jul 12, 2005, at 08:13, Mike Avery wrote: However, some of them put characters in the subject thats out of the usual ascii range. Something like, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And then when I try to deal with the message, Mailman gives me error messages. It said, [...] admin(82489): Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg)) admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 91, in write admin(82489): f.write(msg) admin(82489): UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) You may want to try applying the patch that was described on Mailman- Developers (and IRC) last week. It looks like it may fit your symptom. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detailaid=1235567group_id=103atid=300103 -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Message Unparsable
I am reposting this previously unanswered request for help to the list
again as I am desperate to get this resolved. Surely there is someone
out there with sufficient MIME expertise to help me. I am unable to
find any MIME specific forms elsewhere. I should note that sending the
MIME message direct rather then through Mailman works and looks just
fine. TIA.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Dennis Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: June 24, 2005 7:32:29 AM EDT
To: Mailman users list list mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: Message Unparsable
After some research I have concluded that the errors I am getting from
Mailman are because of a malformed MIME content. Since I am creating
the message myself with a php page I am not surprised (my first time).
Since this probably is a MIME issue I know this is not the correct
forum. However, I am posting the suspect raw data here in the hopes
someone is familiar enough with MIME to spot the problem. At the very
least perhaps someone can point me to a good MIME forum. TIA.
Here is the MIME format message body for the problem message (I
omitted the routing headers):
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundry=!!!---===123_4567_890===---!!!
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--!!!---===123_4567_890===---!!!
Content-Type: text/html; x-unix-mode=0644; name=application.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment; name=application.html
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//ENhtmlheadtitleApplication for
Employment/titlemeta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1/headbodybrbr
htmlheadstyle
type=text/css!--body,p,div,span,td,input,textarea { font-family:
Times New Roman, Times, serif; font-size: 10pt;}h4
{ page-break-before: always;}--/style/headbody
onLoad=window.resizeTo(770,920)h2 align=righttest, test
test/h2
.
etc, etc, etc
.
/body/html
--!!!---===123_4567_890===---!!!
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
content-type: application/msword; name=IT Labels.doc
0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/
CQAGAAABKwAA
EAAALQEAAAD+ACoAAAD///
//
//
//
//
//
.
etc, etc, etc
.
AAA
A
--!!!---===123_4567_890===---!!!--
End of MIME formatted message body
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Message Unparsable
At 9:08 AM -0400 2005-07-12, Dennis Putnam wrote: I am reposting this previously unanswered request for help to the list again as I am desperate to get this resolved. Surely there is someone out there with sufficient MIME expertise to help me. If you want help in figuring out MIME formatting, you would be well advised to use resources more appropriate to that goal. The MIME stuff that Mailman does is largely through libraries written by other people, and the Mailman developers don't really know much about it. There are a very small number of Mailman developers who also monitor the mailman-users mailing list, but that's not likely to be of much benefit to you. I am unable to find any MIME specific forms elsewhere. I should note that sending the MIME message direct rather then through Mailman works and looks just fine. TIA. If you Google for MIME, the top hit that is returned points to http://www.mhonarc.org/~ehood/MIME/. This is a useful resource, and includes pointers to USENET newsgroups that are likely to be of more help to you. Useful sites that are a bit further down the Google Hit Parade are http://www.hunnysoft.com/mime/ and http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/. In the future, I would encourage you to do a bit more research with search engines like Google. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Format to enter list of users with names
Hello, I recently did this successfully while using two different formats. In the Mass subscribe GUI, try either... Format 1: Firstname Lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED] Format 2: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Firstname Lastname) See Also (scroll down to Populate List with Members).. http://web.mit.edu/lists/mailman/quickstart.html Mike - Original Message - From: Thomas Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Format to enter list of users with names In the Mailman web GUI, there is a field for a name associated with an email address. Is there a format to use for a tab sep list so that the name AND address can be imported via the Mass Subscribe? So far, I have only been successful doing a Mass Subscribe of email alone. NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu - Original Message - From: Thomas Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Format to enter list of users with names In the Mailman web GUI, there is a field for a name associated with an email address. Is there a format to use for a tab sep list so that the name AND address can be imported via the Mass Subscribe? So far, I have only been successful doing a Mass Subscribe of email alone. NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail to some users get lost or are very late
Brad Knowles schrieb: At 12:11 PM +0200 2005-07-12, Götz Reinicke wrote: Then the next thing to do is turn on personalization for the list(s) in question, so that you can check the log entries for each and every recipient separately. could you please give me a hint, where to enable this? (Today is a bad day for ...) It's going to depend on whether or not the site-wide list server configuration allows the list admin to turn on personalization. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.015.htp, and you should also see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.002.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.012.htp. O.K., I did this, and it seams, that the mails are send personalised. But there are still the same problems as before. I looked deeper into the mailq and found, that some mails are shown this way; this told me nothing: mailq -q | more j6C9MS4l024817* 729 Tue Jul 12 11:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: local mailer (/usr/bin/procmail) exited with EX_TE) fchoquet csakarov mhartman afetsche bbodmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] gkuschmi \\mmueller4 jlocher mstachle jproehl sarendt afieser cschwoch sschmid fkoziol nimfeld estrecke kschmid sduevel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] j6C9bNxl027556* 730 Tue Jul 12 11:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: local mailer (/usr/bin/procmail) exited with EX_TE) fchoquet csakarov mhartman afetsche bbodmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] gkuschmi \\mmueller4 jlocher mstachle jproehl sarendt afieser cschwoch sschmid fkoziol nimfeld estrecke kschmid sduevel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... -- Götz
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Message Unparsable
DOH! No, I did not see that reply. Thanks. I wonder why it worked OK without going through Mailman? On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Schmitt, Gordon A. wrote: I thought I did see someone respond to you and maybe it wasn't the correct answer but they said that you have the word boundary mispelled, as boundry in the Content-Type line. Gordon Schmitt - System Administrator St. Cloud State University MC 108 St. Cloud, MN 56301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320-308-4838 Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Content Filtering - Reject
List Tech administrator WEB interface only, on a hosting company, I am switching content filtering to Reject do to an excessive number of admin action posts requiring action due to users with Incredimail, Emoticons and graphics in signatures. My filter settings are Yes - image/bmp, image/gif, image/jpeg, image/png, image/tiff. for image types and multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, text/plain, application/pgp-signature, multipart/signed, text/html, message/rfc822 for remove message attachments. Lastly convert HTML to text, no amount of pleading and asking has been able to get the members (250) to stop using images. My question is it possible to get a notification sent to the administrator in addition to the rejecting of these posts. If so how is it done, do I have to get the hosting company to change the configuration files. I have 20+ years of computer experience, but very little in python or similar programs, can generally figure it out given time. Information question - should I be pushing the hosting company to upgrade to the latest version of Mailman? The Mailman-Users List has been a very helpful tool for me to learn the small details of the program - many thanks to the major posters - you are life savers. Regards, Vern Wright Champions Mailing List Technical Support - Eliminate annoying spam! My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster. http://www.ihatespam.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Message Unparsable
Changing the correct spelling of boundary to the incorrect spelling that MIME wants (whose idea was that anyway) didn't help. Same error. Are there any other correct spellings that need to be made incorrect? :-) On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Schmitt, Gordon A. wrote: I thought I did see someone respond to you and maybe it wasn't the correct answer but they said that you have the word boundary mispelled, as boundry in the Content-Type line. Gordon Schmitt - System Administrator St. Cloud State University MC 108 St. Cloud, MN 56301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320-308-4838 Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail to some users get lost or are very late
At 3:41 PM +0200 2005-07-12, Götz Reinicke wrote: I looked deeper into the mailq and found, that some mails are shown this way; this told me nothing: mailq -q | more j6C9MS4l024817* 729 Tue Jul 12 11:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: local mailer (/usr/bin/procmail) exited with EX_TE) This is a more serious problem, but exists with your local mailer (procmail). This is outside of the realm of Mailman, and not something we're likely to be able to help you with. You're going to need to do some more debugging inside your MTA and within procmail to figure out exactly what is going wrong and why. I suggest you use Google to find resources more appropriate to your MTA and procmail. fchoquet csakarov mhartman afetsche bbodmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] gkuschmi \\mmueller4 jlocher mstachle jproehl sarendt afieser cschwoch sschmid fkoziol nimfeld estrecke kschmid sduevel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] These last addresses (the ones that aren't local to your server) are definitely screwed up. They shouldn't be delivered locally to your server, and therefore should not be affected by problems with the MTA or procmail. I suspect that these problems you've highlighted here with procmail are actually older messages that are stuck in the queue and being retried. It may take some time for them to clear. Meanwhile, you need to check the MTA logs for the personalized messages to see if they're going through or not. These logs will be specific to your MTA, and not something we are likely to be able to help you with. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Content Filtering - Reject
At 10:06 AM -0400 2005-07-12, CL-Admin wrote: My filter settings are Yes - image/bmp, image/gif, image/jpeg, image/png, image/tiff. for image types and multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, text/plain, application/pgp-signature, multipart/signed, text/html, message/rfc822 for remove message attachments. Keep in mind that you can either have an allow list, or a reject list, but you cannot have both. Pick a set of MIME types that you want to allow (leaving the other field empty), and everything else will get thrown away. Or, pick a set of MIME types that you want to disallow (leaving the other field empty), and everything else will go through. But you can't fill in values in both fields. My question is it possible to get a notification sent to the administrator in addition to the rejecting of these posts. If so how is it done, do I have to get the hosting company to change the configuration files. If you choose Forward to List Owner instead of Reject or Discard, then you will get a notice when messages are filtered. Of course, this means that you'll probably get a copy of just about every single message sent to the list, which I doubt is something that you want. Information question - should I be pushing the hosting company to upgrade to the latest version of Mailman? Depends on what they're using. Generally speaking, running the most recent -RELEASE version is a good idea. New features are added, bugs are squashed, security holes are closed, etc -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Message Unparsable
Wait a minute. How stupid of me. The incorrect spelling (boundry) is what is wrong not the correct spelling (boundary). Sheesh. Its a pain getting old. Sorry to all. On Jul 12, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: Changing the correct spelling of boundary to the incorrect spelling that MIME wants (whose idea was that anyway) didn't help. Same error. Are there any other correct spellings that need to be made incorrect? :-) On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Schmitt, Gordon A. wrote: I thought I did see someone respond to you and maybe it wasn't the correct answer but they said that you have the word boundary mispelled, as boundry in the Content-Type line. Gordon Schmitt - System Administrator St. Cloud State University MC 108 St. Cloud, MN 56301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320-308-4838 Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ dennis.putnam%40aimaudit.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp; file=faq01.027.htp Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with SpamAssassin.py handler
it work for real user, but not for mailman, I find this in log: Jul 12 17:38:04 vortex spamd[626]: handle_user() - unable to find user [test]! and fail to fetch test setting from SQL (I've set globally with @GLOBAL all setting and for other user it work) any ideas? -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against html/rtf/vCard in mail /\- against M$ attachments -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman options on Exchange
Hello, My Linux box is being decommissioned. We are firing up an Exchange server. Is there an option that will provide me with all of the same Mailman features? Bruce -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman options on Exchange
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Bruce N. Audie wrote: My Linux box is being decommissioned. We are firing up an Exchange server. Is there an option that will provide me with all of the same Mailman features? FreeBSD/postfix/mailman. If you're looking for a ms-exchange option that provides the same functionality as mailman, I think you're going to be looking for a long time. Rant: Why is it that normally sane companies feel the need to replacing something that works and is easy cheap to maintain with something that while it usually works, is hard to maintain once it breaks (which it will), and costs a metric bundle for licenses? z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Appendage problem
This time I think I have a legitimate question (that is not to say I didn't do something stupid again) with respect to the appendage of administrivia that Mailman puts at the end of each message. It seems that (at least) when the message is MIME format the separator (...) begins on the same line as the last attachment icon. Is this a mail reader quirk? Mailman is smart enough to use the boundary (sp?) from the original message but it doesn't add any newlines to separate its appendage from the original content. Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] REQ: member list with nomail
On 7/9/05 11:31 AM, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There should be a way under the Membership Management... section in the web UI to show all members who are set to 'no mail'. This way I can weed out users that are basically useless on the list. But no mail users aren't necessarily useless *to the subscriber*. They are, for example, a way to read the list at home but occasionally post from a work account (assuming a list to which only subscribers can post). I've been known to set some up behind the subscribers' backs, to cut down moderation delays and workloads, when I see a pattern. Nonetheless, I agree the GUI would be better with the option. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix
Hi, Strange. At least the prefix '[dept-linux/pedago]' works at my test site. What is your version of Python and what is your list language settings? I may be able to look into the problem if you can send me the copy of original post message. I don't have access to the server for now on order to know the exact version. It is on a MacOsX server 10.0.4 (postfix) (default mailman installation), all lists are in French, they are all working well, except one list for which the subject prefix is not used. All mails to this list are deliver without prefix, but are in pipermail with the prefix. There is one point in the CookHeader.py where we abort prefixing: try: prefix_subject(mlist, msg, msgdata) except (UnicodeError, ValueError): # TK: Sometimes subject header is not MIME encoded for 8bit # simply abort prefixing. pass This means your clients should be MIME compliant if they want to get full service from Mailman. :-( But, in this case, no prefix should appear in the pipermail archive. I may be able to subscribe to your list and get some mail and browse the archive if your list policy accepts. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] FIXED: Exec error on graphics
Hmm. If you put in a ScriptAlias to the icons directory in Apache, you get errors that make it look like the graphics are being executed. :o ~Poster -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] CGI account shouldn't be part of mailman group, but...
Ok, according to the docs, if the account that runs CGI scripts is a member of the mailman group, then private archives can be seen by everyone. This is a bad thing. However, in order for apache to update files in the mailman paths (like locks and such), these files have to be writable by the CGI user. So either the CGI user is a member of the mailman group, or the directory is left readable, writable, and executable by members not of the group! Hopefully, I'm missing something. Any ideas? Thanks, ~Poster -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI account shouldn't be part of mailman group, but...
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 17:34 -0400, Poster wrote: Ok, according to the docs, if the account that runs CGI scripts is a member of the mailman group, then private archives can be seen by everyone. This is a bad thing. However, in order for apache to update files in the mailman paths (like locks and such), these files have to be writable by the CGI user. So either the CGI user is a member of the mailman group, or the directory is left readable, writable, and executable by members not of the group! Hopefully, I'm missing something. Any ideas? I think you might be missing something. The account that runs CGI scripts is *NOT* a member of the mailman group, rather the cgi wrapper transitions to the mailman group via setgid, thus its only mailman operations that are executing as group mailman. In addition private mailman archives are authenticated by mailman. I don't think the problem you're concerned about exists, unless perhaps I've misunderstood you. You might find this FAQ helpful: 6.16. Understanding group mismatch errors - how mailman implements security http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.016.htp -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
mailman setup and working with postfix just fine, except for the archives..!?! I get a 404 error for the archives. anyone with any ideas? -william -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI account shouldn't be part of mailman group, but...
Just to expand a bit on something I should have elaborated: There is exactly one member of the mailman group, the user mailman. When the MTA or web server want to perform a mailman operation it invokes what is called a wrapper. The wrappers are group mailman and are setgid, this means the wrapper executes as the group mailman even if the MTA or web server invoked it. The wrapper performs a security check on the process that invoked it to assure only permitted users have permission to invoke the wrapper, only the MTA is allowed to invoke the mail wrapper, only the web server is allowed to invoke the CGI wrapper. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)
William Wood said: mailman setup and working with postfix just fine, except for the archives..!?! I get a 404 error for the archives. anyone with any ideas? Well it sounds to me like the archives don't exist. Are you sure that you have Mailman creating them? If they do exist (just not in the right location), then that's really weird. I had all kinds of trials and travails setting up Mailman, but when I created a list and chose to have it archived, everything was up and running without a hitch. ~Poster -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI account shouldn't be part ofmailman group, but...
John Dennis said: Just to expand a bit on something I should have elaborated: There is exactly one member of the mailman group, the user mailman. When the MTA or web server want to perform a mailman operation it invokes what is called a wrapper. The wrappers are group mailman and are setgid, this means the wrapper executes as the group mailman even if the MTA or web server invoked it. The wrapper performs a security check on the process that invoked it to assure only permitted users have permission to invoke the wrapper, only the MTA is allowed to invoke the mail wrapper, only the web server is allowed to invoke the CGI wrapper. OK. If I'm following this correctly, Mailman is run as setgid Mailman, so whatever calls it acts as though it were in the Mailman group. To prevent abuse of this, Mailman allows only those who pass its security check to call it. I'm running SUSE, which uses a mailman-cgi-gid file, instead of compiling this option into Mailman itself. If I've got this right, Mailman compares this file with the GID of the process calling it. If they match, then the process goes ahead. My mailman-cgi-gid file contains one number -- 8, which is the user nobody. In order to prevent Mailman from crashing with horrendous permissions problems on locks and such, I had to change many files to be owned by nobody. I suppose that nobody doesn't have to be part of the mailman group, and that's where I went off the path? Thanks for the info! ~Poster -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI account shouldn't be part ofmailman group, but...
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 19:20 -0400, Poster wrote: OK. If I'm following this correctly, Mailman is run as setgid Mailman, so whatever calls it acts as though it were in the Mailman group. To prevent abuse of this, Mailman allows only those who pass its security check to call it. I'm running SUSE, which uses a mailman-cgi-gid file, instead of compiling this option into Mailman itself. If I've got this right, Mailman compares this file with the GID of the process calling it. If they match, then the process goes ahead. My mailman-cgi-gid file contains one number -- 8, which is the user nobody. In order to prevent Mailman from crashing with horrendous permissions problems on locks and such, I had to change many files to be owned by nobody. I can't speak for SuSE, but I think your mailman-cgi-gid file should have been modified to have the uid that apache (or whatever httpd server you're running) runs as. You shouldn't need to modify the owner/group/permissions of any of the mailman files (or any other files). But like I said I'm not a SuSE expert they may have done something different, but my expectation is they replaced the configure option --with-cgi-gid with a file read of malman-cgi-gid so its not hardcoded into the wrapper. I suppose that nobody doesn't have to be part of the mailman group, and that's where I went off the path? Yes, I believe that would be a mistake and you may need to go back and undo those file changes :-( mailman_install_dir/bin/fix_perms might be helpful, the -f option will fix the files. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Format to enter list of users with names
I recently did this successfully while using two different formats. In the Mass subscribe GUI, try either... Format 1: Firstname Lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED] A little observation about this - Spacing doesn't seem to be very important in the syntax above. I am often given a spreadsheet with one column of names and one column of email addys. I insert a column on either side of the email addy column, and then populate those columns with either or as appropriate. Then I copy the whole mess and paste it into the mass subscribe area. This results in funny looking stuff like: John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Barnes Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] But Mailman is fine with that and the subscription works perfectly! - John (not Doe)... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Scheduled Administrative Option
When will you add a Schedule feature to the Tend to Pending Moderator Requests sections? Right now there are only 4 options (Defer, Accept, Reject, Discard). There should be 5 (Defer, Accept, Reject, Discard, Schedule). The Schedule feature would enable you to Schedule the distribution of a post for a specific date and time. This would be an enormous improvement to the list functionality. Let me know. Thanks. May you be filled with goodness, peace, and joy. Bob Tschannen-Moran, Founder President LifeTrek Coaching International 121 Will Scarlet Lane Williamsburg, VA 23185-5043 Phone: (757) 345-3452 Fax: (772) 382-3258 Web: http://www.lifetrekcoaching.com/ http://www.LifeTrekCoaching.com Web Cast Introduction: http://www.icomwebmedia.com/webseminars/lifetrekmenu.htm Click Web Catalog: http://www.lifetrekcoaching.com/cart/catalog.htm Click Subscribe to Newsletter: Click http://www.lifetrekcoaching.com/provisions/subscribe.htm View the Birds: http://www.lifetrekcoaching/birds Click -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Unsubscribe Notifications
When Mailman automatically removes a name from the list, I (as list owner and moderator) and receiving either 3 or 4 notices for each name that is removed. What is causing these multiple notices? How can I resolve the issue? Let me know. Thanks. May you be filled with goodness, peace, and joy. Bob Tschannen-Moran, Founder President LifeTrek Coaching International 121 Will Scarlet Lane Williamsburg, VA 23185-5043 Phone: (757) 345-3452 Fax: (772) 382-3258 Web: http://www.lifetrekcoaching.com/ http://www.LifeTrekCoaching.com Web Cast Introduction: http://www.icomwebmedia.com/webseminars/lifetrekmenu.htm Click Web Catalog: http://www.lifetrekcoaching.com/cart/catalog.htm Click Subscribe to Newsletter: Click http://www.lifetrekcoaching.com/provisions/subscribe.htm View the Birds: http://www.lifetrekcoaching/birds Click -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Emails Not Delivered, But Show Up In Archives
I'm having trouble narrowing down the source of this problem. But as of a couple days ago, all of the emails sent to my list have been showing up in the archives, but none of them have been delivered to the list members. Anyone have any ideas as far as what I should check... or maybe even a flat-out solution? :) Thanks in advance, Brad -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
