[Mailman-Users] -1 list moderator request(s) waiting

2005-07-19 Thread Joshua ChaitinPollak
Hello, I have an odd problem and I can't find it documented anywhere.  
I have a list administrator on my system who keeps getting messages  
(below) telling him that he has
-1 messages waiting to be moderated. Logging in to the pending tasks  
page shows nothing to do. We have 6 lists on our server, this only  
happens on 2 of them. All of the lists are new as of a few days ago,  
and they all seem to work fine.

Thanks,

-Josh

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: -1 Mechanical moderator request(s) waiting

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting
for your consideration at:

 http://mail.kivasystems.com/mailman/admindb/mechanical

Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
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Re: [Mailman-Users] -1 list moderator request(s) waiting

2005-07-19 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 12:09 -0400, Joshua ChaitinPollak wrote:
 Hello, I have an odd problem and I can't find it documented anywhere.  
 I have a list administrator on my system who keeps getting messages  
 (below) telling him that he has
 -1 messages waiting to be moderated. Logging in to the pending tasks  
 page shows nothing to do. We have 6 lists on our server, this only  
 happens on 2 of them. All of the lists are new as of a few days ago,  
 and they all seem to work fine.

Mailman FAQ Entry
3.38. Why am I receiving moderation requests that read ...mailing list
has -1 request(s) waiting... ?

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.038.htp

Note: the 2.1.6 version has this fixed.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] -1 list moderator request(s) waiting

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Joshua ChaitinPollak wrote:

Hello, I have an odd problem and I can't find it documented anywhere.
  
It's documented in the FAQ.

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.038.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] -1 list moderator request(s) waiting

2005-07-19 Thread Joshua ChaitinPollak

On Jul 19, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Joshua ChaitinPollak wrote:


 Hello, I have an odd problem and I can't find it documented anywhere.


 It's documented in the FAQ.

 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.038.htp

Oops, sorry, I guess I didn't see the FAQ. Thanks for the fast response.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Mail

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Serenil, Chris wrote:

I have just installed mailman. I have list that have multiple list in 
them. Some people are in multiple list. Is there a way to have these 
people get only one mail when the top list has a message sent to it.

Not directly, but see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.005.htp
for a couple of workarounds.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Config problem - hostname issues

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Forrest Aldrich wrote:

I was just working on this, and I have:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.net'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.mydomain.net'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)


And this does not work.  I'm still seeing the old internal URL:

http://host.internal.mydomain.net/blah/blah

Did you run fix_url as Jim said in his previous reply. This is
necessary because the URL was stored as a list attribute when the list
was created. (Also, are you restarting Mailman after mm_cfg.py
changes?)

I'm not sure what is wrong - I searched the FAQ on this one and this 
seemed to be the right solution.


FAQ 4.29 covers this although the fix_url part is somewhat buried.



Jim Tittsler wrote:

snip

 Remember that to update URLs in existing lists, you need to run  
 ~mailman/bin/fix_url.py (It is done with bin/withlist.  Run  
 fix_url.py with no arguments for details, or check the FAQ for more  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Content Filtering - Reject

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
CL-Admin wrote:

Thanks for the prompt response, I have been digesting and doing 
further research, I am not to experienced in the Mime format world and 
haven't found much in my Internet searches that I understood to help 
me choose what to put in the mime type..  The goal is to get the list 
into plain test with NO images, several of the users are on WEB-TV and 
can't read HTML.  I did find FAQ 3.10 and read most of the embedded 
link to the 20+ page document on the whys to keep in plain text, would 
that be the solution?


That FAQ answer predates the advent of content filtering, so it is not
the current best way to do this.


Currently the spam-specific posting filters contains (2nd field on 
screen):

# Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments.
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

These values are a hold over from previous hosting company set-up. 


Actually, they are defaults for legacy spam filters, but you want to
use content filtering, not header filtering.


To pass only plain text parts from essentially all messages set the
following in Content filtering-pass_mime_types:

multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
message/rfc822
text/plain

If you also want to allow pgp signed messages, add:

multipart/signed
application/pgp-signature

Also, set filter content to Yes and set filter_action as desired. If
you want to try HTML to plain text conversion, you can set
convert_html_to_plaintext to Yes and add 'text/html' to
pass_mime_types.

Also see
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/042239.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing rejection notice text when action to takefor postings from non-members is 'Hold'.

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
James wrote:

It doesn't work that way on my system. Generic_nonmember_action is to
Hold, but when non-members post, the poster does not receive a notice.

I've checked postheld.txt and have run  chech_perms, 'mailmanctl
restart'. No errors.

Any suggestions?

Is respond_to_post_requests (Send mail to poster when their posting is
held for approval?) set to Yes on the list's General Options page?

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[Mailman-Users] lists/create screen

2005-07-19 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Hi there,

I have a new mailman instance set up - via a proxied connection.   I've 
since found that doing it this way is more complex (but not my 
choice).   Several items need to be addressed.   Another one I found was 
this on the screen for lists/create:


our.internal.host.net:1 mailing lists - Admin Links

Welcome!

There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html mailing lists on
our.internal.host.net:1.To visit the administrators
configuration page for an unadvertised list, open a URL similar to
this one, but with a '/' and the list name appended. If you have the
proper authority, you can also create a new mailing list
http://gr1.sca.manyone.net:10016/lists/create.

General list information can be found at the mailing list overview
page http://gr1.sca.manyone.net:10016/lists/listinfo.

(Send questions and comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10016.)


I'm not sure if this is a simple template that needs to be edited or if 
there's a more eloquent way to get these links to reflect the proper 
external links/hosts we want people to see.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] lists/create screen

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Forrest Aldrich wrote:

I have a new mailman instance set up - via a proxied connection.   I've 
since found that doing it this way is more complex (but not my 
choice).   Several items need to be addressed.   Another one I found was 
this on the screen for lists/create:


our.internal.host.net:1 mailing lists - Admin Links

Welcome!

There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html mailing lists on
our.internal.host.net:1.To visit the administrators
configuration page for an unadvertised list, open a URL similar to
this one, but with a '/' and the list name appended. If you have the
proper authority, you can also create a new mailing list
http://gr1.sca.manyone.net:10016/lists/create.

General list information can be found at the mailing list overview
page http://gr1.sca.manyone.net:10016/lists/listinfo.

(Send questions and comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10016.)


I'm not sure if this is a simple template that needs to be edited or if 
there's a more eloquent way to get these links to reflect the proper 
external links/hosts we want people to see.


I think you have a real problem here. I hope you are not trying to use
virtual hosts too as that will really complicate things.  Assuming
not, set

VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off

in mm_cfg.py. This will allow all public lists to at least appear on
the listinfo and admin overview pages.

As far as the host names our.internal.host.net:1 and
gr1.sca.manyone.net:10016 in the above are concerned, I'm confused.
These should not be different (unless you've changed
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN replacing %s with gr1.sca.manyone.net:10016) as
they both are obtained from Utils.get_domain().

Anyway, these come from the environment variables HTTP_HOST or
SERVER_NAME and are the actual host name which would be the real host,
not the proxy. To make these be the proxy, I think you'd have to hack
Mailman/Cgi/admin.py where this page is built on the fly (not from
template) or better, change Mailman/Utils.py to always return the name
of the proxy - you could at least make it an mm_cfg.py variable.

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[Mailman-Users] best way to make announce list for members of lots of other lists?

2005-07-19 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

Question: We host a few dozen lists for clients who run our software. 
Each client has a unique list for their own organization, and it is used 
to correspond with us (the developers), etc., but not with each client.

However, whenever we release a new version of software for ALL the 
clients, we would like an announce list, so one of us can post an 
announcement, and all the clients get.

1) Each client should not see who the other clients are.
2) Is there an easy way to take members of the existing lists so extra 
work does not have to be done to populate the announce list with same 
members?
3) Just as an aside, our clients do not subscribe to the lists -- we do 
it for them, and then only give them access to the archives.


Thanks for any info,
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[Mailman-Users] pipe mails via procmail

2005-07-19 Thread Simon MailmanUser
Hey guys,

I try to use mailman (with procmail) in combination with FUD Forum (
http://fudforum.org ) to make the maillist visible in my board.

FUD has a Mailing List Manager included - so i filled out the forms
and assigned a mailing list to a board - but the problem is:  I don't
know how to pipe the mails to my board.

There is following example given:

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| /home/forum/F/test/maillist.php 1

So I guess i should insert that into a procmailrc file on my server
(at 'etc/' ), I tried that and wasted a lot of time with searching for
my mistake. It seems like my procmail doesn't even read my procmailrc
file when I write new mails to the configured mailing list.

I inserted the following into my procmailrc file:

PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin
LOGFILE=/var/log/proclog   

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] # i changed this one ;)
| /usr/local/httpd/fud/scripts/maillist.php 1

I also tried to change the permissions of the procmailrc file, but it
had no effect.

What is my mistake ?

Thank you,

greets
Simon
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[Mailman-Users] Moving Today's Topics to top of Digest?

2005-07-19 Thread Ten Iron
Is it possible to move the Today's Topics to the top
of the Digest instead of the redundant subscribe and
unsubscribe information we have to read every day?

As more and more people read these digests from mobile
devices (think Treo and Blackberry), having to scroll
a couple of screens to see the Topics is cumbersome.

Thanks!




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing rejection notice text when action to takefor postings from non-members is 'Hold'.

2005-07-19 Thread James
Thank you. That fixed it.

 Is respond_to_post_requests (Send mail to poster when their posting is
 held for approval?) set to Yes on the list's General Options page?
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[Mailman-Users] Your message to list name awaits moderator approval

2005-07-19 Thread James
How can I change the subject line in postheld.txt?

I have a custom message in postheld.txt that works just fine, but I
can't figure out how to change its subject line that currently reads
Your message to list name awaits moderator approval.
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[Mailman-Users] tester

2005-07-19 Thread James
tester
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[Mailman-Users] got_owner_email, got_moderator_email?

2005-07-19 Thread James
What is the code that can add 1) owner's and 2) moderator's real email
address in postheld.txt?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Today's Topics to top of Digest?

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ten Iron wrote:

Is it possible to move the Today's Topics to the top
of the Digest instead of the redundant subscribe and
unsubscribe information we have to read every day?

This subscribe and unsubscribe information is built from the
masthead.txt template which can be edited to shorten it (see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp),
but the order - masthead.txt template, digest header if any, table of
contents - is fixed in Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py

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Re: [Mailman-Users] tester

2005-07-19 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:01 PM -0700 2005-07-19, James wrote:

  tester

Please don't send test messages to the mailing list.

Sending garbage to the whole list is one of the things that we 
try to keep an eye on and tend to jump on pretty quickly, setting the 
offender to moderated status until such time as they can prove that 
they understand what they're doing and they can convince us that the 
mistake will not be repeated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Your message to list name awaits moderatorapproval

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
James wrote:

How can I change the subject line in postheld.txt?

I have a custom message in postheld.txt that works just fine, but I
can't figure out how to change its subject line that currently reads
Your message to list name awaits moderator approval.

The subject is hard coded in the hold_for_approval() method in
Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] got_owner_email, got_moderator_email?

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
James wrote

What is the code that can add 1) owner's and 2) moderator's real email
address in postheld.txt?

These values are not in the dictionary of replacements passed to the
Utils.maketext() method by the hold_for_approval() method in
Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py. You would have to add them to the dictionary.

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