[Mailman-Users] HowTo make replies to Sender/List, and reply-alls to everyone?
Hello Mailman-users, I'm a Mailman 2.1.6rc4 site admin. I'm seeking to support the following 2 features at the same time with an email list: 1) Replies go to list and sender/author I want to configure, if at all possible, some (or all) of my lists such that (by default) MUA replies to list-generated emails make the list email address and the email address of the email's sender/author in the recipient fields (any combination of To: or Cc:). 2) Reply-all's go to everyone on the original email's distribution list Additionally, I would like reply-all's to go to every email address on the email's distribution as well as the email address of the list. Note: I'm willing to let go of #1 if I can at least get #2, but I'd like to get both. Right now, I only see this functionality in my lists: * Replies go the list and only the list, regardless of a reply or a reply-all MUA command. * Replies (with no reply-all) only go to the send/author. Essentially, I find these options too restrictive for my communities. Specifically, I've had at least one case where a non-member of an email list sends email to said list, and the list members reply--thinking they are sending the email to the author--but the author never saw the emails because the reply-to-the-list-only feature was set...because the list users were originally complaining that replies were not going to the lists like they had expected and hoped. Thus I'm stuck not being able to feed both mouths. All of my email lists at my current site are for private, internal corporate discussions. No one outside of our company can subscribe or even know or see the Mailman website (because it's behind an SSL firewall). Therefore, I allow non-member postings to a list on purpose, because said lists in this case effectively acts as a distribution list. My only other option that I can see thus far is to make reply_goes_to_list be the Poster instead of This list and train my users to pay attention to when they should be posting to the list and when they should not be. I'd rather Mailman have this option for reply_goes_to_list: Both Poster and This list. Can this be done? -Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list -Possibly Solved?
John, That did it for me, there was a config file in /etc/httpd/conf.d. I haven't toyed much with that part of Apache in years and forgot that existed. Thanks! Regards, Josh Simoneau -Original Message- From: John Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:47 PM To: Josh Simoneau Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list -Possibly Solved? On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 11:18 -0400, Josh Simoneau wrote: So, my last challenge is to figure out why Apache is looking to /var/mailman where I can't find anything in the config to tell it to look there. Maybe its somewhere else. For a workaround I just renamed the /var/mailman directory and created a symbolic link from /var/mailman to /usr/local/mailman. It works, but I still want to know how to get Apache to look to the right spot. Did you look in: /etc/httpd/conf.d? That directory has config files, typically one per web service with the name of the service. Is there a mailman.conf file in that directory? If not grep all the files there looking for one that contains mailman. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HowTo make replies to Sender/List, and reply-alls to everyone?
At 7:33 AM -0500 2005-07-27, Matt England wrote: Right now, I only see this functionality in my lists: * Replies go the list and only the list, regardless of a reply or a reply-all MUA command. * Replies (with no reply-all) only go to the send/author. Correct. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.048.htp. My only other option that I can see thus far is to make reply_goes_to_list be the Poster instead of This list and train my users to pay attention to when they should be posting to the list and when they should not be. That is generally considered to be the correct solution. I'd rather Mailman have this option for reply_goes_to_list: Both Poster and This list. Can this be done? See above. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
Is there a way to enable unsubscribing without requiring user confirmation? Users are added to the list manually by an administrator, yet we do want to allow users the ability to unsubscribe using the listname-leave@ address. Our list is a one-way newsletter letter list and users do NOT have access to any of mailman's web based user pages. Our mailman installation is behind a firewall and port 80 is being blocked. Only our admins and moderators have access to the web interface. I searched the archive and could not find anything regarding this other than a discussion about subscribing via cell phone. In that thread there was a brief discussion of the ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = No and the no existence of allow_open_unsubscribe. Thanks!! Jamey CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The Ohio Public Employees Retirement System intends this e-mail message, and any attachments, to be used only by the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. This message may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If the reader is not the intended recipient of this message or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are prohibited from printing, copying, storing, disseminating or distributing this communication. If you received this communication in error, please delete it from your computer and notify the sender by reply e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+Postfix
roy vinner wrote: yes. I've tried sending me after this and it is still not coming through. Let me know if I should continue this on the postfix list, or install sendmail, or whatever. There should by no need to use Sendmail rather than Postfix. Lots of sites have Mailman working with Postfix. If postfix works in general for sending and receiving non-Mailman mail, there may be a Mailman issue of some kind. There may be an issue with aliases.db not being updated along with aliases. Your aliases file looked good in your original post. Is aliases.db being udated when you add lists? If not, check that it is both owner and group writable and that POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD is set to the correct path in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. If this is all OK, then a Postfix list is probably where you should take this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 09:38 am, Sintz, James wrote: Is there a way to enable unsubscribing without requiring user confirmation? Users are added to the list manually by an administrator, yet we do want to allow users the ability to unsubscribe using the listname-leave@ address. Our list is a one-way newsletter letter list and users do NOT have access to any of mailman's web based user pages. Our mailman installation is behind a firewall and port 80 is being blocked. Only our admins and moderators have access to the web interface. I searched the archive and could not find anything regarding this other than a discussion about subscribing via cell phone. In that thread there was a brief discussion of the ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = No and the no existence of allow_open_unsubscribe. Assuming that YOU do have access to the web pages, it seems the default behavior as seen in the Privacy Settings page would be to NOT require moderator approval for unsubscribes. There you can set YES or NO, but the default is NO. Seems to me they should be able to unsubscribe via email. - John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
Sintz, James wrote: Is there a way to enable unsubscribing without requiring user confirmation? Users are added to the list manually by an administrator, yet we do want to allow users the ability to unsubscribe using the listname-leave@ address. E-mail unsub requests require confirmation to prevent spoofed requests from succeeding. The user can avoid the confirmation by providing his/her password with the e-mailed unsubscribe command, but this only works if an unsubscribe command is mailed to the listname-request address. Mail to the listname-leave or listname-unsubscribe address is not parsed for commands and is treated as if it just contained a plain 'unsubscribe'. Send mail with subject 'help' (w/o the quotes) to the listname-request address for more info on the unsubscribe command. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
I am not talking about approval. No approval is required. I don't want the user to be required to CONFIRM their unsubscribe. Mailman seems kind of backwards in that I can configure it to allow open subs without confirmation or approval, but not open unsubs. Unsubs may not require approval, but seem to always require confirmation. Again, my members don't have access to the web interface or know about a password. -Original Message- From: John Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:17 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation On Wednesday 27 July 2005 09:38 am, Sintz, James wrote: Is there a way to enable unsubscribing without requiring user confirmation? Users are added to the list manually by an administrator, yet we do want to allow users the ability to unsubscribe using the listname-leave@ address. Our list is a one-way newsletter letter list and users do NOT have access to any of mailman's web based user pages. Our mailman installation is behind a firewall and port 80 is being blocked. Only our admins and moderators have access to the web interface. I searched the archive and could not find anything regarding this other than a discussion about subscribing via cell phone. In that thread there was a brief discussion of the ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = No and the no existence of allow_open_unsubscribe. Assuming that YOU do have access to the web pages, it seems the default behavior as seen in the Privacy Settings page would be to NOT require moderator approval for unsubscribes. There you can set YES or NO, but the default is NO. Seems to me they should be able to unsubscribe via email. - John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jsintz%40opers.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The Ohio Public Employees Retirement System intends this e-mail message, and any attachments, to be used only by the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. This message may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If the reader is not the intended recipient of this message or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are prohibited from printing, copying, storing, disseminating or distributing this communication. If you received this communication in error, please delete it from your computer and notify the sender by reply e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
Thanks!! I understand the purpose of the confirmation, I just want the ability to turn it off. It is okay if users get unsubscribed from my list because of a spooked request. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:52 AM To: Sintz, James; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation Sintz, James wrote: Is there a way to enable unsubscribing without requiring user confirmation? Users are added to the list manually by an administrator, yet we do want to allow users the ability to unsubscribe using the listname-leave@ address. E-mail unsub requests require confirmation to prevent spoofed requests from succeeding. The user can avoid the confirmation by providing his/her password with the e-mailed unsubscribe command, but this only works if an unsubscribe command is mailed to the listname-request address. Mail to the listname-leave or listname-unsubscribe address is not parsed for commands and is treated as if it just contained a plain 'unsubscribe'. Send mail with subject 'help' (w/o the quotes) to the listname-request address for more info on the unsubscribe command. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The Ohio Public Employees Retirement System intends this e-mail message, and any attachments, to be used only by the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. This message may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If the reader is not the intended recipient of this message or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are prohibited from printing, copying, storing, disseminating or distributing this communication. If you received this communication in error, please delete it from your computer and notify the sender by reply e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] debian sarge and mailman
Hi All, I am sure this has been addressed before but I am cant find it in the Archives. I am setting up a mailman server on a new debian sarge install with exim4. I installed the debian packages and am now geting bounce notices about gid: The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: -- pipe to |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group daemon, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group Debian-exim. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group daemon, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=Debian-exim'. What is the correct 'debian' way to to fix this? Thanks, Sean -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+Postfix
The issue was due to a local network firewall's blocking the IP address from outside the network. I had not been aware of its existence. Now the issue is fixed. Thank you and John for your suggestions. Gratefully, Roy Mark Sapiro wrote: roy vinner wrote: yes. I've tried sending me after this and it is still not coming through. Let me know if I should continue this on the postfix list, or install sendmail, or whatever. There should by no need to use Sendmail rather than Postfix. Lots of sites have Mailman working with Postfix. If postfix works in general for sending and receiving non-Mailman mail, there may be a Mailman issue of some kind. There may be an issue with aliases.db not being updated along with aliases. Your aliases file looked good in your original post. Is aliases.db being udated when you add lists? If not, check that it is both owner and group writable and that POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD is set to the correct path in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. If this is all OK, then a Postfix list is probably where you should take this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman
Hi guys! My name is Tiago Cruz, I live in Brazil and I love *nix systems :) I can't write in english as well, so sorry for anything. I have a FreeBSD 5.4 box with Postfix and MySQL running with a several Virtual Hosts listed in Apache/ DNS. I would like to put my test domain called sagarana.com in a list named [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note: The domain sagarana.com its works as well, with my virtual users like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, I cannot send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because the postfix don't see my aliases of mailman ans say: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table And... I not understood the function of file virtual-mailman (the my file have a 0kb...) Thanks a lot Brazilian Regards! -- Tiago Cruz – [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sagatiba Brasil S/A – Network Administrator Ph.: 55.11.3095.3053 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman
I know this link isn't to a FreeBSD implementation but It's a very good how-to for making Mailman, virtual domains, And postfix all work together... Virtual Mailhosting System with Postfix Guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml The guide covers the interaction between several components of a mail system including how to use Mailman with virtual Domains. Vince Van De Coevering IT Manager Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. 503-371-9318 x216 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tiago Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 27, 2005 1:20 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman Hi guys! My name is Tiago Cruz, I live in Brazil and I love *nix systems :) I can't write in english as well, so sorry for anything. I have a FreeBSD 5.4 box with Postfix and MySQL running with a several Virtual Hosts listed in Apache/ DNS. I would like to put my test domain called sagarana.com in a list named [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note: The domain sagarana.com its works as well, with my virtual users like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, I cannot send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because the postfix don't see my aliases of mailman ans say: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table And... I not understood the function of file virtual-mailman (the my file have a 0kb...) Thanks a lot Brazilian Regards! -- Tiago Cruz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sagatiba Brasil S/A - Network Administrator Ph.: 55.11.3095.3053 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/vpv%40figaros.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq 01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] apache and mailman
Greetings! Which settings are there to tweak so that apache set with group=apache can still run mailman? creating a group web with no such user and mailman and apache in it did not do the job. Thanks for any input. Roy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] apache and mailman
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 15:54 -0500, roy vinner wrote: Greetings! Which settings are there to tweak so that apache set with group=apache can still run mailman? creating a group web with no such user and mailman and apache in it did not do the job. You need to rebuild mailman using the configure option --with-cgi-gid=apache BTW, this is in the FAQ. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
Sintz, James wrote:
I understand the purpose of the confirmation, I just want the ability to turn
it off. It is okay if users get unsubscribed from my list because of a spooked
request.
If you really want to do it, I think the attached patch will allow it.
Warning - this is untested, use at your own risk.
--
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
--- Mailman-2.1.6/Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py 2002-11-20 21:37:50
+++ mailman-mas/Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py 2005-07-27 13:36:35
@@ -69,19 +69,8 @@
res.results.append(_(\
Your unsubscription request has been forwarded to the list administrator for
approval.))
-elif password is None:
-# No password was given, so we need to do a mailback confirmation
-# instead of unsubscribing them here.
-cpaddr = mlist.getMemberCPAddress(address)
-mlist.ConfirmUnsubscription(cpaddr)
-# We don't also need to send a confirmation to this command
-res.respond = 0
else:
-# No admin approval is necessary, so we can just delete them if the
-# passwords match.
-oldpw = mlist.getMemberPassword(address)
-if oldpw password:
-res.results.append(_('You gave the wrong password'))
-return STOP
+# No admin approval is necessary, so we can just delete them
+# Don't worry about the password
mlist.ApprovedDeleteMember(address, 'mailcmd')
res.results.append(_('Unsubscription request succeeded.'))
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[Mailman-Users] Extract list members from backup without installing
The server that hosted our Mailman list was swiped by management for other use. They were considerate enough to pull the hard drive, though, and it's mounted on my laptop via firewire. Now, I'd like to set up a new list (management provided some space on an existing, non-Mailman list server) and subscribe all our old members. Is there a way to extract the member list without installing Mailman on my laptop? None of the handy scripts (like list_members) work, because the directory structure's all different. I apologize if I'm missing something obvious. Thanks, Drew Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages Sent
Hi y'all. Sorry if this is a little long.
The continuing problem is that 1) the welcome to the mailman list e-mail (in
German no less), 2) the first message I sent to the mailman list and then 3)
the administrative warning message from Maillman regarding a subsequent message
all go out to me time and again. A second e-mail account gets my first message
over and over.
Mailman doesn't know that I have received a welcome, confirmed I want to be on
the list by sending back an e-mail, started using the mailman list for testing
and I've attended to the administrative task by discarding the over 50kb
attachment-laden e-mail. All three e-mails go out every 5 minutes or so until I
stop the qrunner(s).
The second message I sent to the mailman list had attachments for testing
scrub; over 50 mb no doubt. That subsequent e-mail has never arrived, but a
Mailman message informing me that there is an administrative task arrived. I
went to the web admin and discarded the message, but the administrative warning
message continues to arrive every 5 minutes, just like freakin clockwork. Could
there be two identical cron entries causing this or what?
My set-up -
freeBSD 4.7 virtual server - (bigtuner dot com and uniconexed dot org)
mm-cfg.py has the unicon.org default and the add virtual host entry.
sendmail v 8.13.1 with
define(`confTRUSTED_USERS',`mailman'),
FEATURE(`smrsh') ( with soft link to usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman)
FEATURE(`greet_pause')
FEATURE(local_procmail)
MAILER(`local')
MAILER(`smtp')
Mailman v 2.1.6
In usr/local/mailman/locks, mailmanctl starts master-qrunner AND
master-qrunner.bigt dot com dot 17567 (or some other number) Is that
correct? In usr/local/mailman/data, I have one master-qrunner.pid.
Logs --
Mailman logs have 137KB of locks entries of the type
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) mailman.lock unlocked
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 363, in __del__
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) self.finalize()
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 359, in finalize
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) self.unlock(unconditionally=True)
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 335, in unlock
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) self.__writelog('unlocked')
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 416, in __writelog
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) traceback.print_stack(file=logf)
mailman/logs post read
Jul 27 18:54:14 2005 (17583) post to mailman from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1783,
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 1 failures
qrunner logs say
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting.
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17582, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17581, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17579, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17578, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17580, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17584, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17583, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17585) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17585, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1)
partial mailman/logs smtp say
Jul 27 20:10:10 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips,
completed in 3.799 seconds
Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips,
completed in 1.167 seconds
Jul 27 20:25:07 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 2 recips,
completed in 0.408 seconds
Jul 27 20:25:24 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips,
completed in 6.489 seconds
partial smtp-failure logs say
Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session failure: -1, es_setoptions( debug,
msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session failure: -1, es_setoptions( debug,
msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vette logs say (regarding the subsequent message, no doubt)
Jul 27 18:18:22 2005 (32572) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held,
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message body is too big: 12472312 bytes with a
limit of 50 KB
Jul 27 18:46:20 2005 (7448) mailman: Discarded posting:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test wtih attachments
Reason: Your message was too big; please trim it to less than 50
Re: [Mailman-Users] Extract list members from backup without installing
Drew Bell wrote: Is there a way to extract the member list without installing Mailman on my laptop? None of the handy scripts (like list_members) work, because the directory structure's all different. Why not just wait until Mailman is running wherever it is going to be and then just move the lists/listname/config.pck file from the laptop to the new mailman machine? You don't have to create the list on the new machine first. You might also want to move the list's archives too. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] HTML mail getting garbled
I'm having a problem like Liviu reported a couple of weeks ago. I'm on Mac OS X Tiger. I created an HTML mail message as follows: Message, including graphic, is posted as a web page by our designer. I open this in a browser, and use Safari's Mail contents of this Page command, which creates a message in Mail.app. The message looks perfect. I address it to our list, and CC it to myself. Second method: Using Microsoft Word's Open Web Page command, I access the web page. It opens and displays in Word, graphic and formatting as desired. I use Word's command, Send to Mail Recipient as HTML, which creates a message in Entourage. Message looks fine. Address it as above. With both methods, the copy I CC to myself, which does not pass through the mailing list, arrives in my Entourage In Box looking just as it should. The copies that pass through the list (I am subscribed under 3 different addresses on mac.com, Earthlink.net, and a pair.com mail account) all arrive in Entourage with the logo missing, and the two-column format is lost; the left column appears at the top above the right column material. Bold and italic are preserved; the messages are HTML, but imperfect. At least one other person, who uses a Windows machine, reports that one of the messages arrived for him with the logo intact, but the other lacked the logo. In pair.com's SquirrelMail web interface, it comes through as plain text. Earthlink's standard web interface displays the message perfectly; their beta interface keeps the graphic, but distorts it, and displaces some of the text from a left column to the top of the page. Does anyone have an explanation for this strangeness, or have any suggestions on what we can do about it? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman
Hi Vince! Thanks by your reply! Vince Van De Coevering escreveu: I know this link isn't to a FreeBSD implementation but It's a very good how-to for making Mailman, virtual domains, And postfix all work together... Virtual Mailhosting System with Postfix Guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml Well, its a very good documentation! But google have show me before I write to this list... another excelent documentation is this: http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html The guide covers the interaction between several components of a mail system including how to use Mailman with virtual Domains. Yes, I follow as in FreeBSD without trobleshooting :) But I still without understood the file virtual-mailman... You can show a real example? Maybe will be more easy to I... See my aliases: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman/data]# postconf | grep aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases, mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-aliases.cf newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases, mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf Thanks a lot! Brazilian Regards -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Extract list members from backup without installing
On 7/27/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just wait until Mailman is running wherever it is going to be and then just move the lists/listname/config.pck file from the laptop to the new mailman machine? Sadly, and against my wishes, they're switching from Mailman to some other listserv software. -- Drew Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages Sent
Dan Collins wrote: The second message I sent to the mailman list had attachments for testing scrub; over 50 mb no doubt. That subsequent e-mail has never arrived, but a Mailman message informing me that there is an administrative task arrived. I went to the web admin and discarded the message, but the administrative warning message continues to arrive every 5 minutes, just like freakin clockwork. Could there be two identical cron entries causing this or what? The only cron that should run every 5 minutes is gate_news. Do you have anything set up in Mail-News gateways? The cron that sends the nn LISTNAME moderator request(s) waiting message is checkdbs which normally runs once daily at 8:00 a.m. In usr/local/mailman/locks, mailmanctl starts master-qrunner AND master-qrunner.bigt dot com dot 17567 (or some other number) Is that correct? In usr/local/mailman/data, I have one master-qrunner.pid. This is correct. One file data/master-qrunner.pid containing the pid and two files locks/master-qrunner and locks/master-qrunner.your.host.name.pid both containing the same thing as the name of the second file with a full path. Logs -- Mailman logs have 137KB of locks entries of the type Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) mailman.lock unlocked This refers to a lock for the 'mailman' list mailman/logs post read Jul 27 18:54:14 2005 (17583) post to mailman from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1783, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 1 failures This looks like a mailman generated message. Why is it posted to the 'mailman' list? Is the'mailman' list an owner or moderator of another list or itself? That could probably cause loops. qrunner logs say Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17582, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17581, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17579, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17578, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17580, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17584, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17583, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17585) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17585, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) Looks like a 'mailmanctl stop' or maybe a kill of the master qrunner. partial mailman/logs smtp say Jul 27 20:10:10 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 3.799 seconds Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 1.167 seconds Jul 27 20:25:07 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 2 recips, completed in 0.408 seconds Jul 27 20:25:24 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 6.489 seconds partial smtp-failure logs say Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session failure: -1, es_setoptions( debug, msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session failure: -1, es_setoptions( debug, msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vette logs say (regarding the subsequent message, no doubt) Jul 27 18:18:22 2005 (32572) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message body is too big: 12472312 bytes with a limit of 50 KB Jul 27 18:46:20 2005 (7448) mailman: Discarded posting: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test wtih attachments Reason: Your message was too big; please trim it to less than 50 KB in size. Finally, in my var/mail logs, I get entries like Jul 27 20:25:22 bigtuner sm-mta[3485]: j6RKPHh3003485: --- 221 2.0.0 bigtuner.com closing connection Jul 27 20:25:22 bigtuner sm-mta[3543]: j6RKPHh1003485: --- 050 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Connecting to gateway-r.comcast.net. via esmtp... Jul 27 20:25:22 bigtuner sm-mta[3543]: j6RKPHh1003485: SMTP outgoing connect on bigtuner.com Jul 27 20:25:54 bigtuner sm-mta[3543]: j6RKPHh1003485: --- 050 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sent (ok ; id=20050727202522r2200og6ste) Jul 27 20:25:54 bigtuner sm-mta[3543]: j6RKPHh1003485: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:37, xdelay=00:00:32, mailer=esmtp, pri=12615209, relay=gateway-r.comcast.net.[216.148.227.126], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (ok ; id=20050727202522r2200og6ste) Jul 27 20:25:54 bigtuner sm-mta[3543]: j6RKPHh1003485: done; delay=00:00:37, ntries=1 Jul 27 20:25:55 bigtuner sm-mta[3543]: NOQUEUE: --- 050 Closing
Re: [Mailman-Users] Extract list members from backup without installing
Drew Bell wrote: Sadly, and against my wishes, they're switching from Mailman to some other listserv software. With a 'strings' command and a little work with an editor, you can probably get the membership list from the config.pck. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML mail getting garbled
Allen Watson wrote: I'm having a problem like Liviu reported a couple of weeks ago. I'm on Mac OS X Tiger. I created an HTML mail message as follows: Message, including graphic, is posted as a web page by our designer. I open this in a browser, and use Safari's Mail contents of this Page command, which creates a message in Mail.app. The message looks perfect. I address it to our list, and CC it to myself. Second method: Using Microsoft Word's Open Web Page command, I access the web page. It opens and displays in Word, graphic and formatting as desired. I use Word's command, Send to Mail Recipient as HTML, which creates a message in Entourage. Message looks fine. Address it as above. With both methods, the copy I CC to myself, which does not pass through the mailing list, arrives in my Entourage In Box looking just as it should. The copies that pass through the list (I am subscribed under 3 different addresses on mac.com, Earthlink.net, and a pair.com mail account) all arrive in Entourage with the logo missing, and the two-column format is lost; the left column appears at the top above the right column material. Bold and italic are preserved; the messages are HTML, but imperfect. At least one other person, who uses a Windows machine, reports that one of the messages arrived for him with the logo intact, but the other lacked the logo. In pair.com's SquirrelMail web interface, it comes through as plain text. Earthlink's standard web interface displays the message perfectly; their beta interface keeps the graphic, but distorts it, and displaces some of the text from a left column to the top of the page. Does anyone have an explanation for this strangeness, or have any suggestions on what we can do about it? Assuming Content Filtering is Off, the only thing Mailman might be doing to the content is wrapping it in another MIME level to add list header and or footer. You could try removing any msg_header and/or msg_footer if you have any. If this doesn't fix it, you need to diff the raw messages from direct Cc: and from the list and see what, other than the obvious top level headers, is different. One possibility is if the original message HTML contains very long lines, one of the MTAs on the path to/from Mailman might be dropping something. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] thousands of lists
Hi, I need to setup a system with around 15,000 lists. Have other people been using mailman for such a large number of lists? One thing that concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be any support for a hashed directory structure for storing the the lists config and archives under: $VAR_PREFIX/lists $VAR_PREFIX/archives The concern is that on a unix filesystem it is very slow to access directories with thousands of entries. Apart from this are there likely to be an issues with hosting so many lists? thanks, iain. -- Iain Pople Systems Programmer University of Melbourne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments being stored for plain-text digests
Elizabeth Lear wrote: A list on my site is not using content filtering, and has set digests to plain mode. I've double-checked that all digest subscribers are also set to plain mode. This is irrelevant to the following. Digest plain or mime only governs whether the individual messages in the digest are all concatenated into one plain text digest or are each in their own separate MIME message/rfc822 part. It doesn't affect whether or not or which attachments are scrubbed from messages which process is long since done before the two different digest formats are created. The list owner reports the following problem: Some of the digest posts are going into attachments, and then are replaced with the following An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://net.indra.com/pipermail/hostpost/attachments/20050714/cbc662b9/attach ment.html When you click on the link, it doesn't go an active web page. It's working just as it should. See below. I don't expect that the link would work, since we don't have archives enabled. This only matters in terms of your web server - see below. Is the problem that the list owner should be either stripping attachments with content filtering or enabling MIME digests in order to handle the attachments? No. The scrubber scrubs and saves attachments into the archive hierarchy whether or not archiving is enabled for the list and regardless of what the ultimate digest format will be. It creates a URL to the saved attachment either like http://net.indra.com/pipermail/hostpost/attachments/20050714/cbc662b9/attachment.html if the list's archive_private attribute is 'public' or like http://net.indra.com/mailman/private/hostpost/attachments/20050714/cbc662b9/attachment.html if the list's archive_private attribute is 'private'. In your case, I suspect that the list's archive_private attribute is set to 'public', but since you 'don't have archives enabled' you don't have something like Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ in your web server configuration to make the first URL work. Stripping attachments with content filtering won't prevent scrubbing either as even text/plain attachments can be scrubbed depending on charset. See for example http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045887.html You have two choices: 1) Enable public archive access in your web server, or 2) change the list's archive_private attribute to 'private' which will create the second type of URL in the future which will require subscribers to log in with their e-mail address and password to see the attachment. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] thousands of lists
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 01:55:36PM +1000, Iain Pople wrote: The concern is that on a unix filesystem it is very slow to access directories with thousands of entries. While I can't address your question directly, I can say that this isn't an issue. Just use ReiserFS or set your ext2/3 filesystems to use dir_index. Either one will give you hashed directory lookups and resolve this performance issue. In general, I know that sourceforge.net uses Mailman for their lists. The product gloss on the Realtime stats page claims 75,000+ projects. Not sure how they manage them though. -- Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell. --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] thousands of lists
We are using Solaris UFS. On 28/07/2005, at 2:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 01:55:36PM +1000, Iain Pople wrote: The concern is that on a unix filesystem it is very slow to access directories with thousands of entries. While I can't address your question directly, I can say that this isn't an issue. Just use ReiserFS or set your ext2/3 filesystems to use dir_index. Either one will give you hashed directory lookups and resolve this performance issue. -- Iain Pople Systems Programmer University of Melbourne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
