Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
At 6:35 PM -0400 2005-08-09, Steve Rifkin wrote: Even to the site admins? Was it always like that? So far as I know, yes. The problem is that there is no private authenticated admin page. Anyone can go to the admin interface page, but you can't do anything from that page unless you've got the site or list admin password(s). Is there a reason why the design of Mailman doesn't allow for the web interface to display _all_ lists for a Mailman site admin only? I would think that would be a good feature to have, in that, if I wanted to configure lists remotely as the site admin (as opposed to a list admin), I'd want to see the names of all the lists, advertised or not. As site admin, you should have command-line access to the server, or at least be able to remember what private lists you've created. But you are right that this would be a nice feature. Please feel free to go to the SourceForge Mailman Request for Enhancement page at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=350103 and file an RFE. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search and import
At 1:53 PM +1000 2005-08-10, Kai Hendry wrote: Is there some general faq about making mailman archives searchable? I.e. usable. You should search the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py before posting questions like this. I have a bunch of emails from another system that I wish to import to mailman. Not a problem. The answer is in the FAQ. I don't think I have access to mailman directly as my hosting company set it up for me. So any tips of how I send these mails and maintain the date? That's a problem. If you want to import archives from another list, you have to have command-line access. In this case, you'd have to ask your hosting company to do it for you. The issue here is that Mailman was never designed to be abused in the way that hosting companies are now doing. It was intended to be something that an organization sets up for itself, and where you've got complete control over everything yourself. It was never intended to be used in a hosting environment. People who abuse it in that way need to provide a lot of support to their hosting customers, otherwise you lose much of the functionality. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search and import
At 11:23 PM -0500 2005-08-09, Tom Chaudoir wrote: Wow. Great question. I'm new here and would love to know how to add archives from my old list server to the Mailman database. Try searching the archives of the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py before posting questions like this. If it works, you can easily build a form that uses Google to search your archive. Or you can search the Mailman FAQ Wizard for other solutions to that same problem. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
As site admin, you should have command-line access to the server, or at least be able to remember what private lists you've created. Remember, it's not me being a list admin, but rather a site admin that's the issue. As a site admin, I wouldn't necessarily know all the many lists that our list admins would decide to make private. Actually, as a site-admin, I wouldn't necessarily know all the public lists too. I'd have to have a list available to me (we could potentially have dozens of lists made where the list admins would choose whether to advertise the list or not), and I was hoping I'd have that list available through a password-protected webpage, especially since there are other pages that require the site admin to log in within Mailman (specific list maintenance, etc.) But, yes, having a command-line-access to the server would be the only way for the site admin to have a complete set of lists (advertised and non-advertised.) But you are right that this would be a nice feature. Please feel free to go to the SourceForge Mailman Request for Enhancement page at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=350103 and file an RFE. Brad, thanks for all the info. I appreciate it. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination
Brad Knowles escreveu: At 3:02 PM -0300 2005-08-09, Tiago Cruz wrote: But, when user is not part of list, the Reply to all don't works... the new message is formated only to list... Did you check the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? Hello Brad, good morning (Brazil :) Yes, I read the FAQ in http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.048.htp But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail client: reply to - reply to my list reply to all - reply to my list _and_ original destination Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header... Thanks a lot! Cheers, Tiago Cruz -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination
At 9:54 AM -0300 2005-08-10, Tiago Cruz wrote: But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail client: reply to - reply to my list reply to all - reply to my list _and_ original destination Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header... If you want to do that, without modifying the Reply-to: header, then this sounds like a problem with your client. The only thing that Mailman would be able to do is change the Reply-To: header, which is a very bad idea -- for the reasons outlined in the FAQ. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination
Tiago == Tiago Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tiago But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail Tiago client: reply to - reply to my list reply to all - Tiago reply to my list _and_ original destination Tiago Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header... No, it's not possible. According to the standard for internet mail, the Reply-To header contains the destination where you can reach the _author_ of the post. (If the author chooses to read replies on the list, she may set Reply-To to the list. In that case, the behavior you describe is the behavior you want!) If Reply-To is not set, then the From address is used for replies. Thus, if Reply-To is set, then the standard says that From should be ignored; mail intended for the author should be directed to Reply-To. If Reply-To is set to the list, then From is ignored for this reason. If Reply-To is not set to the list, then neither reply nor reply to all will reply only to the list. As far as I know, all reasonable mail agents implement this behavior (including Eudora and Outlook, which I normally wouldn't class as reasonable, but for this purpose I'll grant them an exception). There simply is no solution to this problem as stated; there are too many options to be handled with one header and two mail agent commands. There is, of course, a solution: change your mail agent. What good mail agents do is add a third command reply to list to direct replies to the list if it was received via a list; if not, to the author. Now you have exactly the behavior you want. So the best solution is to configure the list server to leave the Reply-To header alone and you get a good mail agent. If you're stuck with a mail agent that has no reply to list command, then you're also stuck with the inability to implement the options you prefer. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can do free software business; ask what your business can do for free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error when sending to test-subscribe
Thanks John, that did it. I did, however have to create the /usr/local/mailman directory first, it wouldn't configure until I did that. So, here's my new steps. % cd /usr/src % tar -zxvf ./mailman-2.1.6.tgz # mkdir /usr/local/mailman # chgrp mailman /usr/local/mailman#did this according to the README # chmod a+rx,g+ws /usr/local/mailman #did this according to the README % ./configure --with-mail-gid=nogroup # make # make install And there you have it. The README led me to believe you were supposed to run the install in the destination directory, I thought that was weird, I must have misunderstood what I read :-) Thanks again. Mike -Original Message- From: John Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 15:12 To: Mike Hanby Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error when sending to test-subscribe On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:24 -0500, Mike Hanby wrote: Ok, I reinstalled, here are the steps that I followed (btw I'm using Slackware 10). As root, I created the mailman user and mailman group. I have mailman temporarily set up to allow shell access (so I can install as mailman). You do not need to be mailman to install mailman, to install mailman you should be root. The mailman user and group will need to exist prior to installation so that the installed components can be assigned that identity. # cd /usr/local # tar -zxvf ./mailman-2.1.6.tgz # chgrp -R mailman ./mailman-2.1.6 # chmod -R a+rx,g+ws ./mailman-2.1.6 # ln -s ./mailman-2.1.6 ./mailman # su - mailman None of this is necessary (except for untaring) % cd /usr/local/mailman % ./configure --with-mail-gid=nogroup % make install ./mailman-install.log 21 ouch. you're building in the install area before you've installed, sounds like a recipe for disaster. :-) You've also installed as the user mailman, not root. Think of your build area as a staging area that is used to construct what will be placed into the the install area by the root user. By trying to point the install at your build you're going to step all over what you've built as it installs. It's equivalent to trying to copy a file onto itself :-( I still don't see the ./scripts/subscribe script. The subscribe script is just a copy of the join script (unsubscribe is a copy of leave). The part of install that copied the existing scripts worked, the part that installed copies of join and leave did not. I'm not sure why that part of the install failed but installing into the build area and not being root during the install are likely culprits. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Force emails to the list to show up as FROM: a specific user
Howdy, I'm setting up a list to be used as a newsletter distribution list. In that regards, any email that goes out to the list will only get delivered after the list admin accepts it. I'd like any email sent to the list to appear to come from the user: MyCompany Newsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this possible? Right now, I'm having to send the emails using that account, but I'd like for my boss to be able to send the list an email from his home email account, list admin approve it, and have it show up as from MyCompany Newsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED], rather than John P Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in advance, Mike = Mike Hanby ATcon 2201 Cahaba Valley Drive Birmingham, AL 35242 Texas Aggie, Class of '94 == Got Virus-scan? -- Of 147 billion e-mails scanned by IBM for customers in 2004, one in 16, or 6 percent, contained a virus. During 2002, just 0.5 percent of e-mail scanned had viruses. == -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination
Stephen J. Turnbull escreveu: So the best solution is to configure the list server to leave the Reply-To header alone and you get a good mail agent. If you're stuck with a mail agent that has no reply to list command, then you're also stuck with the inability to implement the options you prefer. That's good enough and your letter solved my doubts, thanks! So, now I'm' going to spam the list of mozilla-thunderbird-devel asking for the fucking button: I want a 'reply to list' button :-) Thanks again, have a nice day! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertisedlists via web interface?
Steve Rifkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd have to have a list available to me (we could
potentially have dozens of lists made where the list admins would
choose whether to advertise the list or not), and I was hoping I'd
have that list available through a password-protected webpage,
especially since there are other pages that require the site admin
to log in within Mailman (specific list maintenance, etc.)
I wrote a nasty script to generate an HTML file that lists all the
lists.
I run it daily from cron because I didn't want to monkey around with a
setuid mailman CGI program.
Use your web server to restrict access to the generated HTML file as
appropriate.
Here's an example. Customize as required. Works for me; it might
work for you.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Create a web page from the output of the Mailman list_lists command.
$cmd=/usr/share/mailman/bin/list_lists;
open LISTINFO, $cmd | or die cannot run $cmd: $!\n;
print '
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
html
head
titleMailing lists/title
style type=text/css
.shaded {background: #EE;}
/style
/head
body
h1Mailing lists/h1
table
';
$rownumber = 0;
$headerline = LISTINFO;
while (LISTINFO) {
chop;
($listname, $description) = split / - /;
$listname =~ s/^\s+//;
if ($rownumber % 2) {
$class = ;
} else {
$class = 'class=shaded';
}
$rownumber++;
$lc_listname = lc $listname;
print tr $class\n;
print tda href=\/mailman/listinfo/$lc_listname\$listname/a\n;
print td$description\n;
print tda href=\mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail list owner/a\n;
print /tr\n;
}
print /table;
# page footer
print '
/body
/html
';
--
Matt Emerson
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
Cool. Thanks Matt, I'll have to try that out.
Steve
Matt wrote:
I wrote a nasty script to generate an HTML file that lists all the
lists.
I run it daily from cron because I didn't want to monkey around with a
setuid mailman CGI program.
Use your web server to restrict access to the generated HTML file as
appropriate.
Here's an example. Customize as required. Works for me; it might
work for you.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Create a web page from the output of the Mailman list_lists command.
$cmd=/usr/share/mailman/bin/list_lists;
open LISTINFO, $cmd | or die cannot run $cmd: $!\n;
print '
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
html
head
titleMailing lists/title
style type=text/css
.shaded {background: #EE;}
/style
/head
body
h1Mailing lists/h1
table
';
$rownumber = 0;
$headerline = LISTINFO;
while (LISTINFO) {
chop;
($listname, $description) = split / - /;
$listname =~ s/^\s+//;
if ($rownumber % 2) {
$class = ;
} else {
$class = 'class=shaded';
}
$rownumber++;
$lc_listname = lc $listname;
print tr $class\n;
print tda href=\/mailman/listinfo/$lc_listname\$listname/a\n;
print td$description\n;
print tda href=\mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail list owner/a\n;
print /tr\n;
}
print /table;
# page footer
print '
/body
/html
';
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[Mailman-Users] Sendmail: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close
We are running Suse 9.2 and have recently installed mailman 2.1.6 on our site. We are using sendmail and mm-handler. It seems that our messages are not being properly picked up by qrunner. If we send an email to a non-existing list, we get a nice email telling us that the list does not exist. If we send an email to a list, it appears all the appropriate files get created. There are messages that appear as heldmsg-[listname].pck And there are numerous messages that appear as retries that have a very-long number.pck The text of the emails sent do appear in these files. In /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp-failure, we have a message: SMTP session failure: -1, a(): 1.00 Sendmail gives us: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close collect: unexpected close on connection from localhost. I do an strace -f -p [pid of qrunner outgoing-runner] and I find: recv(10, getla(): 1.08\n220 localhost ESMT..., 8192, 0) = 108 send(10, ehlo lists.lightsys.org\r\n, 22, 0) = 22 send(10, mail FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 45, 0) = 45 recv(10, 250-localhost Hello localhost [1..., 8192, 0) = 231 send(10, rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 34, 0) = 34 send(10, data\r\n, 6, 0) = 6 recv(10, getla(): 1.08\n, 8192, 0)= 14 send(10, quit\r\n, 6, 0) = 6 recv(10, 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 8192, 0) = 102 close(10) Basically, qrunner does everything for the email except send any data. I have been able to successfully send an email by telnetting to the smtpserver (127.0.0.1) on port 25, and typing in what qrunner sends. If I put something in as data, it processes through sendmail fine and gets delivered. So why is qrunner losing the body of the email messages? - Tim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination
On 8/10/05 7:36 AM, Tiago Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull escreveu: So the best solution is to configure the list server to leave the Reply-To header alone and you get a good mail agent. If you're stuck with a mail agent that has no reply to list command, then you're also stuck with the inability to implement the options you prefer. That's good enough and your letter solved my doubts, thanks! So, now I'm' going to spam the list of mozilla-thunderbird-devel asking for the button: I want a 'reply to list' button :-) Thanks again, have a nice day! Note that with Thunderbird, there could well be a plugin available that does what you want. Or not, of course. But it would be worth checking. --John (who has other reasons for not using Thunderbird) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] list with capital letters in the name and the newlist script
Hello all I was hoping that some one could answer the this can I create a list with capital letters in the name of the list using the newlist script? Ex: S315C Thanks, Bert Beaudin It Manager AHUWC [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 505-454-4254 www.uwc-usa.org http://www.uwc-usa.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list with capital letters in the name and the newlist script
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 11:19 -0600, Bert Beaudin wrote: Hello all I was hoping that some one could answer the this can I create a list with capital letters in the name of the list using the newlist script? No, it always converts the name to lower case. Not sure why, but that is the behavior. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bug report: hanging message (shunting)
Hello,
I repeatedly have a shunted message when it is a message made in
Eudora 6.2 (on Mac OS X) that contains a so-called in-line image
(like jpg). When I send such message to the list (and I approve it as
a moderator), then the message gets shunted and manually has to be
put in the normal queue.
I consider this a bug in MailMan which I would like to inform you of.
I don't know if this list is the right place to post such bug report but
I thought it might be interesting also for other users to know that
such thing can happen. Maybe someone has a solution for me for
this type of messages containing in-line pictures.
The bug recently happens always when I send such message so it
is a reproducible error.
Below is the error log for your information.
Best regards,
Loek Jehee
Hi Loek,
if you report this to mailman-users mailing list, here is the error
log. It is for the default installation of version 2.1.6.
Aug 10 19:29:19 2005 (30334) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 5]
Input/output error
Aug 10 19:29:19 2005 (30334) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130,
in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153,
in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 92, in
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 133, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 315, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 286, in
process
payload = part.get_payload(decode=True)
File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py, line 223, in
get_payload
uu.decode(StringIO(payload+'\n'), sfp)
File /usr/lib/python2.4/uu.py, line 139, in decode
sys.stderr.write(Warning: %s\n % str(v))
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/MultiLogger.py, line 45,
in write
_logexc(logger, msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Utils.py, line 22, in _logexc
sys.__stderr__.write('Logging error: %s\n' % logger)
IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Aug 10 19:29:19 2005 (30334) SHUNTING:
1123691170.7004039+8fe48db8d809846344debd6eddb21ddcfb95ffca
Shunting means putting the message into the deferred queue.
Unshunting means pulling the message out into the normal queue, so
it is sent out.
Another piece of info that might help is the output of bin/unshunt:
Aug 10 23:15:12 2005 qrunner(7630): Warning: Trailing garbage
Aug 10 23:15:12 2005 qrunner(7630): Warning: Trailing garbage
Aug 10 23:15:12 2005 qrunner(7630): Warning: Trailing garbage
Aug 10 23:15:12 2005 qrunner(7630): Warning: Trailing garbage
Aug 10 23:15:12 2005 qrunner(7630): Warning: Trailing garbage
Aug 10 23:15:12 2005 qrunner(7630): Warning: Trailing garbage
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[Mailman-Users] emails getting cut up
hello, ive been having problem with my emails getting cut up, due to size i believe, but i have the (Maximum length in kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit.) set to 0. is there something im missing? thanks -- ___ Outgun.com free e-mail @ www.outgun.com Check out our Premium services - POP3 downloading, e-mail forwarding, and 25MB mailboxes! Powered by Outblaze -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search and import
On 2005-08-10T11:29+0200 Brad Knowles wrote: You should search the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py before posting questions like this. Somehow I missed this from http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ It should be made clearer. I have a bunch of emails from another system that I wish to import to mailman. Not a problem. The answer is in the FAQ. Aha! http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.001.htp I wonder how I convert my messages which are individual files to a mbox? Just cat them? I don't think I have access to mailman directly as my hosting company set it up for me. So any tips of how I send these mails and maintain the date? That's a problem. If you want to import archives from another list, you have to have command-line access. In this case, you'd have to ask your hosting company to do it for you. Oh no. The issue here is that Mailman was never designed to be abused in the way that hosting companies are now doing. It was intended to be something that an organization sets up for itself, and where you've got complete control over everything yourself. It was never intended to be used in a hosting environment. People who abuse it in that way need to provide a lot of support to their hosting customers, otherwise you lose much of the functionality. Please! I think it is a bit harsh to call it abuse. Ideally there should be a mail or Web interface for this feature. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Procmail recipe
Is there an authoritative procmail recipe for filtering mailman list messages automagically? My current configuration seems to skip some. http://trac.natalian.org/file/home/.procmailrc pico$ egrep Skip ~/Maildir/procmail.log | uniq --- Logging /home/hendry/Maildir//procmail.log for hendry, procmail: Skipped wp-hackers/ procmail: Skipped travel-natalian/ --- Logging /home/hendry/Maildir//procmail.log for hendry, procmail: Skipped wp-hackers/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] check_perms errors
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