[Mailman-Users] Bounce probe question
Hi, since i really would like this as an option is there any way to prevent mailman (2.1.5) from sending list probes to the members who have reached the lists bounce threshold? I do not want to disablem bounce probing in general, just for some lists. Regards Lorenz Adena -- Lorenz Adena Information Medien Rechenzentrum Universität Stuttgart Tel: (++49-711) 685-5993 Allmandring 30 Fax: (++49-711) 68702041 70550 Stuttgart *** RUS-Mailadresse: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce probe question
On 2005-08-24 21:30, Lorenz Adena wrote: since i really would like this as an option is there any way to prevent mailman (2.1.5) from sending list probes to the members who have reached the lists bounce threshold? I do not want to disablem bounce probing in general, just for some lists. You can set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings to 0 for the lists where you want the bouncing subscribers to be immediately unsubscribed. (See the Bounce Processing page of the web administrative interface.) -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce probe question
On Thu 2005-08-25 (22:11), Jim Tittsler wrote: since i really would like this as an option is there any way to prevent mailman (2.1.5) from sending list probes to the members who have reached the lists bounce threshold? I do not want to disablem bounce probing in general, just for some lists. You can set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings to 0 for the lists where you want the bouncing subscribers to be immediately unsubscribed. (See the Bounce Processing page of the web administrative interface.) i tried exactly this: bounce_score_threshold = 1.0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0 bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = 0 bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = 0 which did not prevent mailman from sending the probes. I found no configuration setting to prevent the bounce probe (which was introduced to mailman in 2.1.5) but - just now - found a hint in the CHANGES file from the 2.1.6 release: - VERP_PROBES is disabled by default. which suggests the probes can be disabled in 2.1.6 which probably means i should upgrade my mailman. any further insight into this topic is appreciated. Regards Lorenz Adena -- Lorenz Adena Information Medien Rechenzentrum Universität Stuttgart Tel: (++49-711) 685-5993 Allmandring 30 Fax: (++49-711) 68702041 70550 Stuttgart *** RUS-Mailadresse: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moved mailman, not arhchiving
On Aug 24, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: David Clark wrote: The only difference that I can find is that the db for the new list has the sticky bit on.. Do you really mean the sticky bit or are you confusing that with the setgid bit? Setgid is the s in the 'group' position (sticky is the s in the 'other' position) and is important. If you can, run 'bin/check_perms -f' as root until it stops reporting errors. This may help. Err, sorry I misspoke -- I'm no unix guru. A non-working list shows: drwxrwx---2 root mailman 4096 Aug 2 14:54 database Vs the working list that shows: drwxrws---2 mailman mailman 4096 Aug 24 15:46 database Running check_perms gives no errors.. Do you see any errors in Mailman's 'error' log\? Not a one. I am this close to exporting the user lists, removing the list, and re-adding it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moved mailman, not arhchiving
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 09:43 -0400, David Clark wrote: Err, sorry I misspoke -- I'm no unix guru. A non-working list shows: drwxrwx---2 root mailman 4096 Aug 2 14:54 database Vs the working list that shows: drwxrws---2 mailman mailman 4096 Aug 24 15:46 database Running check_perms gives no errors.. I think you're problem is with the owner of the file, note the non working file is owned by root while the working version is owned by mailman. check_perms does not check ownership, only groups and modes so it would have missed this. Try this as root: % chown mailman database -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] private or public list ?
Hi all! Is there a way to know, by a command line, if a list is public or private ? reguards -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] private or public list ?
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 15:54 +0200, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote: Is there a way to know, by a command line, if a list is public or private ? Use the config_list command and look for the value of advertised. If you want to know whether a list's archives are public or private, look for the value of archive_private. - Julian -- -- Julian C. Dunn, B.A.Sc, P.Eng. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Platform Administrator, CBC.ca Production Operations -- Office: 2C310-Q * Tel.: (416) 205-3311 x5592 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moved mailman, not arhchiving
Err, sorry I misspoke -- I'm no unix guru. A non-working list shows: drwxrwx---2 root mailman 4096 Aug 2 14:54 database Vs the working list that shows: drwxrws---2 mailman mailman 4096 Aug 24 15:46 database I have made the owner maillman. Moderated mail is now queuing correctly, but not archiving yet -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with cgi-bin files
I'm using Debian testing, with Postfix 2.x I installed mailman via apt-get, as well as postfix. Apache2 was installed from source. I use virtual domains (which are defined in a mysql database, along with the users) in postfix. Mailman is working quite well, except that many of my cgi-bin files don't seem to work. (I can send and recieve mail, and mailman sends out emails just fine to people in my lists) I added, in httpd.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ And now I can access http://servername.com/mailman/admin/csc (csc = list name) I can get past the password prompt, and see the General Information, but when I click on any link in there, I get 'The document contains no data'. I changed apache user/group from nobody to www-data (so mailman would work with it). /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin has the following permissions lrwxrwxrwx 1 root list 24 Aug 25 12:56 cgi-bin - /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman The files in that directory all have the following permissions -rwxr-sr-x 1 root list 6276 May 28 06:54 admin I'm confused why some pages load fine, and others do not. Does anyone know of a solution? Thanks -Will -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] how much can one mailman support?
Just how many lists can you run on one mailman server on a uniprocessor dell server running linux and have enough left over so when users request to know which lists they're on, your box doesn't come to a grinding halt? We're considering putting 6000 course/section lists on it plus migrating another similar number of existing lists that used to be sendmail include style reflectors (prone to spam). I suspect it may be able to handle the lists, but as soon as users request to know which lists they're on, are they going to bury the server? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how much can one mailman support?
At 5:33 PM -0500 2005-08-25, Dave Rasmussen wrote: Just how many lists can you run on one mailman server on a uniprocessor dell server running linux and have enough left over so when users request to know which lists they're on, your box doesn't come to a grinding halt? Before asking questions like this on the list, you should see the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for words like largest and performance. The short answer is it depends. The long answer can be found in the FAQ. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] revised question to university users
Can anyone out there from another major university using mailman to allow communication for all of their course sections, comment on their hardware configurations for suitable usage? You can email me offline. Sorry for the previous semi-inept request. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Questions on 'List Renaming' Misc.
Regarding an earlier question on changing the headers; I guess something similar can be achieved by; - Changing the name of the list, to something less obvious - Enabling the 'Moderated' option for all users by default, so that way anyone that attempts to post to the list...will not be able to. It will sit in queue instead and wait for me to release it Does this sound ok? Is there a better way to achieve something like this? What are your thoughts? Also, can I easily change the name of the list from the Mailman UI or do I have to create a new one? One more thing, since I'm still a big n00be on email related stuff; What are the advantages of setting up a mailing list such as this, instead of copying and pasting tons of email addresses in the 'bcc' field? I've noticed that when I have done the 'copy paste' method, I get delivery failures/bounce messages, because I'm sending to way too many recipients. Is this one way how a mailing list provides a greater advantage? Just sending to one email address instead of many? Sincerely, J. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moved mailman, not arhchiving
David Clark wrote: Err, sorry I misspoke -- I'm no unix guru. A non-working list shows: drwxrwx---2 root mailman 4096 Aug 2 14:54 database Vs the working list that shows: drwxrws---2 mailman mailman 4096 Aug 24 15:46 database I have made the owner maillman. Moderated mail is now queuing correctly, but not archiving yet Try (as root) chmod -R g+s archives/private/listname -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions on 'List Renaming' Misc.
Joe Espinoza wrote: Regarding an earlier question on changing the headers; I guess something similar can be achieved by; - Changing the name of the list, to something less obvious - Enabling the 'Moderated' option for all users by default, so that way anyone that attempts to post to the list...will not be able to. It will sit in queue instead and wait for me to release it Does this sound ok? Is there a better way to achieve something like this? What are your thoughts? It seems you want an announcement list. In that case, moderating everyone is the way to go. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp for more info. Also, can I easily change the name of the list from the Mailman UI or do I have to create a new one? No. You can't change the name of a list from the Mailman web UI. If you have sufficient access to the Mailman installation, you can change the name of a list as follows. Note that I've never actually done this, so there may be gotchas somewhere that I haven't thought of. Change the name of the lists/listname directory. Change the real_name attribute on the list's General options page to match the new neme except perhaps for case. Change the name of the archives/private/listname directory. Change the name of the archives/private/listname.mbox directory. Change the name of the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file. If there are public archives change the name and target of the archives/public/listname symlink. Rebuild the archives with bin/arch. It might be easer to create a new list. One more thing, since I'm still a big n00be on email related stuff; What are the advantages of setting up a mailing list such as this, instead of copying and pasting tons of email addresses in the 'bcc' field? I've noticed that when I have done the 'copy paste' method, I get delivery failures/bounce messages, because I'm sending to way too many recipients. Is this one way how a mailing list provides a greater advantage? Just sending to one email address instead of many? Again, it seems you're thinking of an announcement list since a Bcc list doesn't work for a discussion list and a Cc list has privacy concerns. A big advantage of a mail list manager vs. a Bcc list is the one you note. A properly installed and configured mail list manager interacts with its MTA in a way that insures that the mail will be sent to all list members even if this is thousands or tens of thousands of recipients. A Bcc list is subject to whatever limitation you might encounter in the number of recipients that can be specified for a single SMTP transaction. The Bcc is also cumbersome to manage and error prone. Also, the mail list manager can provide other services such as subscription management, automated bounce processing, etc. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
