Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

2005-09-14 Thread Sythos
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:11:22AM +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
 -I installed mailman on a debian server with postfix.

From debian mailman package or from source?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

2005-09-14 Thread Sam Gamgee
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 08:15, Sythos wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:11:22AM +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
  -I installed mailman on a debian server with postfix.
 
 From debian mailman package or from source?

I'm sorry I was mistaken earlier. It's a ubuntu server and not debian.
I installed the mailman package first. Here however I received:

QUOTE
Command output: Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper 
script to be executed as group daemon, but the system's mail server 
executed the mail script as group mailman.  Try tweaking the mail server to 
run the script as group daemon, or re-run configure,  providing the command 
line option `--with-mail-gid=mailman'. 
/QUOTe

I then installed from source with the --with-mail-gid=mailman option. 
Thats the situation I'm in now - I can mail, but I can't use the web 
interface properly.


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[Mailman-Users] nightly_htdig errors after upgrade

2005-09-14 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello everyone,

I am _almost_ at my wits end on this. I just cannot figure out why the
permissions are denied.

This is what comes up every night after the upgrade, even though my
mailman setup seems to be working okay.

From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:19:13 +0300
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/bin/python -S
/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed



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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

2005-09-14 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 16:08 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
 I then installed from source with the --with-mail-gid=mailman option. 
 Thats the situation I'm in now - I can mail, but I can't use the web 
 interface properly.

What did you specify as --with-cgi-gid? Both mail and cgi have to line
up with how your MTA and web server respectively execute sub-programs.

Also, being a bit more specific with how the web interface is not
working properly would help solve your problem.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] nightly_htdig errors after upgrade

2005-09-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Odhiambo Washington wrote:

I am _almost_ at my wits end on this. I just cannot figure out why the
permissions are denied.

This is what comes up every night after the upgrade, even though my
mailman setup seems to be working okay.

From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:19:13 +0300
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/bin/python -S
   /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

/usr/bin/sort: mkstemp error: Permission denied
htmerge: Word sort failed

This problem is with htdig, not Mailman. The
/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig script calls the command in
HTDIG_RUNDIG_PATH (rundig) and that in turn apparently calls htmerge
which calls sort which attempts to create a unique temporary file
using mkstemp and that fails for lack of permission.

What happens if you try to run sort stand alone as the mailman user?
What happens if you try to run rundig (rundig -c some .conf file) as
the mailman user?

If you've done all the things in the Permissions Considerations/htdig
section of the INSTALL.htdig-mm document, and you still have this
problem, all I can suggest is that you try running things stand-alone
as the mailman user to try to narrow down the problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

2005-09-14 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 18:45 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
 yes I have run check_perms several times.
 I often get wrong group errors such as:
 
 /var/lib/mailman/logs/qrunner bad group (has: list, expected mailman)
 /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp bad group (has: list, expected mailman)
 
 I don't know what keep causing these, but so far they don't seem to have any 
 negative effects.

If check_perms is reporting problems you've got problems you need to
fix. By default check_perms only reports problems, it does not fix them,
to fix them you need to supply the -f argument.

If your cgi wrappers are not group mailman then its setgid property is
not going to work the way you expect. For instance if its group list
then its going to execute as group list and the fact the files it
references are -rw-rw mailman:mailman won't help because they are
not in the group list. Make sense?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

2005-09-14 Thread Sam Gamgee
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:29, you wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 18:45 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
  yes I have run check_perms several times.
  I often get wrong group errors such as:
 
  /var/lib/mailman/logs/qrunner bad group (has: list, expected mailman)
  /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp bad group (has: list, expected mailman)
 
  I don't know what keep causing these, but so far they don't seem to have
  any negative effects.

 If check_perms is reporting problems you've got problems you need to
 fix. By default check_perms only reports problems, it does not fix them,
 to fix them you need to supply the -f argument.
yes yes yes. I know that.
but the results are not permanent. My problem is trying to find out why.


 If your cgi wrappers are not group mailman then its setgid property is
 not going to work the way you expect. For instance if its group list
 then its going to execute as group list and the fact the files it
 references are -rw-rw mailman:mailman won't help because they are
 not in the group list. Make sense?

which file permissions are wrong? which ones do I have to change?
check_perms -f changes get undone constantly and I don't know by what.


if check_perms reports some group list and not mailman stuff I don't 
experience any problems and nothing changes when I fix them.
When my web-interface doesn't work i.e.
ls -l /var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/
total 24
-rw-rw1 mailman  mailman  4284 Sep 14 12:00 config.pck
then it will not work regardless of what check_perms says or does.

all I know is: if I chown -R www-data /var/lib/mailman/lists then it works 
again.




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[Mailman-Users] Running 2.2a0 want to downgrade to 2.1.6 stable

2005-09-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello,

We have a machine running 2.2a0. We would like to downgrade to the 
stable release
of 2.1.6. Are there any known gotchas that we need to prepare for?

Sincerely,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

2005-09-14 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 19:46 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
 yes yes yes. I know that.
 but the results are not permanent. My problem is trying to find out why.
 

I'm trying to tell you why :-) Below are the cgi wrappers on my system
as a reference point, adjust the path for your installation. The key
thing to note here is the wrapper (anything in the mailman/cgi-bin
directory) has two critical properties

1) it is in the group mailman
2) it is setgid (the s flag in the group execute field)

What this means is when some entity (e.g. your web server, apache) runs
one of this cgi-bin programs the OS will note the files is setgid and
then run the program as the group the program file belongs to (e.g.
mailman). Without setgid sticky bit the OS will run the program as the
group belonging to the entity that invoked it (in this case apache)
which appears from your description as to what is happening, the group
ownerships are getting changed to apache's group.

To further expand on what is happening: when one of these cgi-bin
wrappers is called the very first thing it does is ask the following
question Who called me? If they are not in a group I trust I refuse to
execute because I only work on behest of a select set of trusted groups.
For the cgi-bin wrappers that set of groups is the set of groups
belonging to your web server and what is set via --with-cgi-gid. If the
entity that invoked the wrapper is not in the set of trusted groups you
get a group mismatch error and the wrapper exits. If the trust test
passes the wrapper continues to execute in the group mailman (because
the wrapper's file has the setgid sticky bit set and belongs to the
group mailman). If either the setgid sticky bit is not set -or- the
wrappers file is not group mailman you're going to get the type of
permission problems you're seeing.

FWIW, the description applies to the mail wrapper and the MTA, just
change the names ;-)

% ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
total 264
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18345 Mar  7  2005 admin
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 admindb
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 confirm
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 create
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18353 Mar  7  2005 edithtml
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18353 Mar  7  2005 listinfo
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 options
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 private
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 rmlist
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 roster
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18353 Mar  7  2005 subscribe


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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13 SOLVED

2005-09-14 Thread Sam Gamgee

 % ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
 total 264
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18345 Mar  7  2005 admin
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 admindb
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 confirm
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 create
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18353 Mar  7  2005 edithtml
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18353 Mar  7  2005 listinfo
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 options
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 private
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 rmlist
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18349 Mar  7  2005 roster
 -rwxr-sr-x  1 root mailman 18353 Mar  7  2005 subscribe

thanks! that did it.
the permissions were wrong, and they weren't being corrected by check_perms -f

for me it was:
/var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
which is:
/var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin - /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman

anyway. it works now :))

thank you for your patience.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Complettly delete unused mailing lists

2005-09-14 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Thanks!
That worked well.
 Regards
Elvis
 On 9/13/05, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 * On 13/09/05 16:09 -0700, Elvis Fernandes wrote:
  Hello,
  I want to delete off a few old mailing lists.
  I read the instructions at:
  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.031.htp
  On checking, I did not the variable OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS in
  the /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file.
  Is there a simple way to delete off the old mail lists. I do not need to
  archive any data from these old lists.
  Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] mailman, multi-domain capable?

2005-09-14 Thread Steven Jones
If so, can someone point me at docs to do this with sendmail?

If not, can someone suggest GPL software that can do this?

Regards

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[Mailman-Users] Basic question of new list admin: how do i view a list of subscri bers?

2005-09-14 Thread Bryant, Deb (LNG-BET)
Hello:

 

I inherited the job of list admin for our mailman listserv.  I did not
inherit any documentation or training, however.  I'm fumbling along OK, but
cannot for the life of me figure out how to view (ideally download) a
complete list of subscribers.  

 

If someone can take a moment to guide me, I'd be most appreciative.

 

Thanks! 

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13 SOLVED

2005-09-14 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:47 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
 thanks! that did it.
 the permissions were wrong, and they weren't being corrected by check_perms -f
 
 for me it was:
 /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
 which is:
 /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin - /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman

hmm... it's troubling that check_perms -f didn't fix this, it should
have. I can only think of two reasons check_perms would miss the cgi-bin
files

1) Its a non-standard installation and check_perms was not updated to
reflect the new installation.

2) The fact the cgi-bin directory is a symbolic link (but I would expect
that to be transparent because links should just be followed).

You might want to run check_perms with the -v verbose option (without
the -f it won't change anything). With verbose it will tell you exactly
what its checking. You could do something like check_perms -v | grep
cgi If you don't get something like the output below then you need to
file a bug against whoever provided your mailman package for why
check_perms is missing your cgi-bin directory.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -v | grep cgi
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/private
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/roster
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/subscribe
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/rmlist
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml
checking gid and mode for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/options
checking cgi-bin permissions
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/private
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/roster
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/subscribe
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/rmlist
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml
checking set-gid for /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/options

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Running 2.2a0 want to downgrade to 2.1.6 stable

2005-09-14 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi,

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

 Hello,
 
 We have a machine running 2.2a0. We would like to downgrade to the 
 stable release
 of 2.1.6. Are there any known gotchas that we need to prepare for?

When did you install 2.2a0? I believe you installed ot from CVS.
The CVS HEAD is now versioned 2.2.0a0 and a backport of 2.1.6 plus a few 
bug fixes and is as stable as 2.1.6.  Upgrading to the CVS HEAD should 
be as smooth as upgrading from 2.1.x to 2.1.6.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman, multi-domain capable?

2005-09-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:02 AM +1200 2005-09-15, Steven Jones wrote:

  If so, can someone point me at docs to do this with sendmail?

  If not, can someone suggest GPL software that can do this?

Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for virtual 
domain.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Basic question of new list admin: how do i view a list of subscri bers?

2005-09-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:22 PM -0400 2005-09-14, Bryant, Deb (LNG-BET) wrote:

  I inherited the job of list admin for our mailman listserv.  I did not
  inherit any documentation or training, however.  I'm fumbling along OK, but
  cannot for the life of me figure out how to view (ideally download) a
  complete list of subscribers.

Without making changes to the Mailman source code, or changing 
the defaults that ship with Mailman, you can't do this from the web 
admin interface, unless you've got a really small list.  Even if you 
do change the defaults (so as to display more members on a page), 
that's still just going to be presented the same way as the 
information you already see -- probably not what you're looking for.

To get the kind of information you want, you pretty much have to 
telnet or ssh in to the server and use the command-line interface. 
You're looking for the command list_members.  Go to the Mailman FAQ 
Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? and search for 
mailman/bin.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman, multi-domain capable?

2005-09-14 Thread Steven Jones
Thanks, been doing so.knowing what key words to search under always
helps.

Regards

Thing

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At 8:02 AM +1200 2005-09-15, Steven Jones wrote:

  If so, can someone point me at docs to do this with sendmail?

  If not, can someone suggest GPL software that can do this?

Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for virtual 
domain.

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[Mailman-Users] third-level domains

2005-09-14 Thread Jason Pfingstmann
First off, to give you all a general overview:
1  Web Server - handles domain.com, www.domain.com requests
2  Mail Server - Postfix using virtual domains from mySQL DB

I have mailman on the mail server (since it seems to require this) and so
installed apache on it.  DNS points all domains mail.domain.com to the
mail server.  Since the mailman user access and admin access pages are
pointed to the domain of the list, using mail.domain.com makes sense for
lists.  So [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The issue is, I have the following in my mm_cfg.py:
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.azxws.com']
add_virtualhost('mail.azxws.com')

I have postfix transport for mail.azxws.com set to virtual
When I am the mailman user and do ./bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get
an e-mail to the admin account I specify with links to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], not mail.azxws.com.
Also, when I send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get an error that it
loops back upon itself, and when I try [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get an error that
the user doesn't exist (since azxws.com is a virtual domain that has
e-mail addresses used by it).

Please let me know what might help troubleshoot this.  I'm at my wits end.
 Thanks.

Jason Pfingstmann


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