[Mailman-Users] People in UK
Hi, are there any people from UK on this list who can help me building applications with Mailman for the orthoPoint website ? You will be paid for your work. I am on the move to Liverpool and my own company will be based in London at the end of this year. My college and I looking for people who are be able to help us building a discussion list based community with Mailman and Drupal. Thank you in advance. Kind Regards, Albrecht Marignoni www.orthopoint.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
At 5:24 PM -0700 2005-09-20, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: Has anyone else here had the same problems? It all started when they did a software service upgrade last Wednesday night (They told me they did indeed do a upgrade then.) The FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.042.htp is not specifically about hotmail, but is generally applicable to any large-scale mail provider. It is useful to try to gather more information on this problem from other list administrators. However, please keep in mind that, even if you do discover that there is some sort of major problem (either wide-spread, or specific to your site), there may be little or nothing you can do about it. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over again. I am very sorry, but we are not able to discuss the details of the filtering strategies or specific filters which MSN Hotmail utilizes in order to combat unwanted e-mail. Our filters are highly confidential and discussion of the specific filter rules would eventually render them useless for all of our Hotmail mailbox owners. For information on common delivery questions please refer to the Hotmail Postmaster Site found at: http://postmaster.msn.com/. MSN Hotmail has also created the Smart Network Data Services program. This is a service that helps legitimate email senders work with their customers and partners to reduce spam originating from their IP. http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/. Additionally you may want to investigate the Microsoft Sender ID program. http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/technologies/senderid/default.msp x. While neither the SNDS nor Sender ID will enable emails from you domain to bypass our filtering system they will help in the fight against spam. That being said, to help minimize future issues please investigate signing up for Bonded Sender at http://www.bondedsender.com. Thank you, Scott Hotmail Technical Support -Original Message- From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:01 PM To: GEST HM Inbox Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 My emails are getting blocked by you again. I do not understand what is going on. These are the same clients, the same lists - with almost no changes and you are changing what is going on. I have been sending this same way for over 18 months now with the same type emails. The only people that have added themselves have done so through the websites, with confirmed opt-in. I have only sent three of my lists and I usually have seven on Tuesdays without any problems. I would really appreciate getting this solved, especially since there has not been any changes at my end. There seems to be no reason or logic as to what is going on and are mutual users are getting upset. Hi Lloyd, I(tm)ll try to answer as much as I can for you: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is able to receive messages that might otherwise be blocked by BrightMail, but the final destination (Inbox or JMF) is still a function of our filtering. Since the account does not maintain a Domain Safe List, it isn(tm)t uncommon for test messages to end up in JMF. I can(tm)t offer help with Symantec since they are a different company with different policies. Usually, they will tell you if they are filtering your emails, but that is up to them. Sender ID is a helpful program, but not necessary for your purposes. The Junk Mail Reporting program is a helpful addition to SNDS since it will provide additional details for youthis is a particularly effective way of cleaning up mailing lists. The program does require that you have a company website, that you provide the JMRPP with an official Point of Contact, and that your site has an opt-out link or visible opt-out process. If you are interested in enrolling, please provide the details required (or information on how to find those details) and we will forward your request to the JMRPP team: Once approved, they will contact you with further information. The benefit of Bonded Sender is that it allows you to bypass our filters (including BrightMail) and deliver your messages directly into your recipient(tm)s Inbox. On rare occasion an error occurs and a message will be routed to JMF. When that happens we ask that you contact us ASAP so that we can rectify that issue. Microsoft and Return Path have a very good working relationship and we are able to resolve these rare instances quickly. For more details, however, I would have to refer you to www.bondedsender.com. Thank you, Shawn MSN Hotmail Technical Support From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:45 PM To: GEST HM Inbox Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 It is interesting that it went to your junk mail folder as it did not on my test accounts and two on the list itself. Symantec will not talk to anyone regarding their technology and/or who is listed. According to the three different departments there is no way to find out who or what is listed and why. I was told the only time that they give that information is in court. I cannot participate in the Microsoft Sender ID program as it uses SPF and SPF cannot be used
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over again. I am very sorry, but we are not able to discuss the details of the filtering strategies or specific filters which MSN Hotmail utilizes in order to combat unwanted e-mail. Our filters are highly confidential and discussion of the specific filter rules would eventually render them useless for all of our Hotmail mailbox owners. For information on common delivery questions please refer to the Hotmail Postmaster Site found at: http://postmaster.msn.com/. MSN Hotmail has also created the Smart Network Data Services program. This is a service that helps legitimate email senders work with their customers and partners to reduce spam originating from their IP. http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/. Additionally you may want to investigate the Microsoft Sender ID program. http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/technologies/senderid/default.msp x. While neither the SNDS nor Sender ID will enable emails from you domain to bypass our filtering system they will help in the fight against spam. That being said, to help minimize future issues please investigate signing up for Bonded Sender at http://www.bondedsender.com. Thank you, Scott Hotmail Technical Support -Original Message- From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:01 PM To: GEST HM Inbox Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 My emails are getting blocked by you again. I do not understand what is going on. These are the same clients, the same lists - with almost no changes and you are changing what is going on. I have been sending this same way for over 18 months now with the same type emails. The only people that have added themselves have done so through the websites, with confirmed opt-in. I have only sent three of my lists and I usually have seven on Tuesdays without any problems. I would really appreciate getting this solved, especially since there has not been any changes at my end. There seems to be no reason or logic as to what is going on and are mutual users are getting upset. Hi Lloyd, I(tm)ll try to answer as much as I can for you: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is able to receive messages that might otherwise be blocked by BrightMail, but the final destination (Inbox or JMF) is still a function of our filtering. Since the account does not maintain a Domain Safe List, it isn(tm)t uncommon for test messages to end up in JMF. I can(tm)t offer help with Symantec since they are a different company with different policies. Usually, they will tell you if they are filtering your emails, but that is up to them. Sender ID is a helpful program, but not necessary for your purposes. The Junk Mail Reporting program is a helpful addition to SNDS since it will provide additional details for youthis is a particularly effective way of cleaning up mailing lists. The program does require that you have a company website, that you provide the JMRPP with an official Point of Contact, and that your site has an opt-out link or visible opt-out process. If you are interested in enrolling, please provide the details required (or information on how to find those details) and we will forward your request to the JMRPP team: Once approved, they will contact you with further information. The benefit of Bonded Sender is that it allows you to bypass our filters (including BrightMail) and deliver your messages directly into your recipient(tm)s Inbox. On rare occasion an error occurs and a message will be routed to JMF. When that happens we ask that you contact us ASAP so that we can rectify that issue. Microsoft and Return Path have a very good working relationship and we are able to resolve these rare instances quickly. For more details, however, I would have to refer you to www.bondedsender.com. Thank you, Shawn MSN Hotmail Technical Support From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:45 PM To: GEST HM Inbox Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 It is interesting that it went to your junk mail folder as it did not on my test accounts and two on the list itself. Symantec will not talk to anyone regarding their technology and/or who is listed. According to the three different departments there is no way to find out who or what is listed and why. I was told the only time that they give that information is in court. I cannot participate in the Microsoft Sender ID program as it uses SPF and SPF cannot be used
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
At 12:41 AM -0700 2005-09-21, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over again. You can certainly try their SNDS system, and try to follow whatever guidelines they have at their postmaster website. As far as that goes, it doesn't sound significantly different from what AOL does. However, at some point it sounds to me like you will probably need to decide how much you want your e-mail to get through their filters. If you want it badly enough, then you will probably pay to use their bonded sender program. Otherwise, you may be forced to eliminate all hotmail users from your lists, or at least live with the fact that most mail from you to hotmail is going to be blocked or dropped. Good luck! If you find out anything that you think may be of interest to the broader mail list admin community, please let us know. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames via command line
Hello All, I'd like to move lists from an old machine (Solaris 8) to new one (SLES 9) with all their corresponding members. I'm creating new list (on my new server) with newlist command. To see the members of the list with their full names I run (on the old machine): # ./list_members -f listname I got this kind of members list: firstname1 lastname1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] firstname2 lastname2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Is there syntax to add members with add_members or another command, so I could directly add them to new list with their full names? Leon Kolchinsky -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. I would turn the problem around. Tell the hotmail users that hotmail is blocking their list mail, and they should contact hotmail and tell them to stop blocking their legit mail. Or, if it's not a business list, tell hotmail users they need to use a different address and move on. Send them all a gmail invite while you're at it. == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Password protection
I can't find in the documentation how you post a message to a list with password protection. Please help. George Payne Write Hand Publishing 105 Willow Drive Andalusia, AL 36421 334 222-9212 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\georgepayne\Application%20Data\Micros oft\Signatures\www.writehand.com www.writehand.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bandwidth monitoring per list
Is there a tool I could use, or a way inside mailman itself, to monitor the bandwidth used by a particular list? Either to institute a quota or (preferably) end up with a stats type graph or set of #s? Thanks -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Password protection
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 08:03 -0500, George Payne wrote: I can't find in the documentation how you post a message to a list with password protection. Please help. Your previous was seen, but perhaps it was not answered because it's not clear what you're asking. If you could provide some further explanation it would help. Mailman has no direct support for password protecting an email. Mailman is only in the business of being a relay, taking a message from you and redistributing to members of the list. For the most part mailman cares very little about the content of the email and has no password protection of email receipt and delivery. On the other hand there are a variety of schemes by which a sender of email can digitally sign and/or encrypt an email, but all of those schemes are local to the sender and receiver and embedded in the content of the mail, mailman as a distributor of messages is ignorant of them. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bandwidth monitoring per list
At 9:40 AM -0400 2005-09-21, Anne Ramey wrote: Is there a tool I could use, or a way inside mailman itself, to monitor the bandwidth used by a particular list? Either to institute a quota or (preferably) end up with a stats type graph or set of #s? Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py, and search for terms like statistics and rate limiting. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Password protection
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 09:00 -0500, George Payne wrote: I am trying to post a message to a list of several thousand emails but I want only the poster (moderator or administrator0 to be able to post a message. What I am trying to find out is how do you protect the list. Its in the FAQ 3.11. How do I create a newsletter/announcement/one-way list? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not working
Hello, I thought this was working when we moved to Mailman 2.1.6b4 in June, (I could be wrong) but the monthly password reminder is not working. I, and a colleague, have tried to manually test the script for a single list but it is not working. The script that runs out of mailman's cron is: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron/mailpasswds I tried testing with: $ pwd /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron $ runas -u mailman ./mailpasswds -l testlist It just exits. Nothing in the mail or mailman logs. Other details: Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 Any suggestions? Darren Old Dominion University -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not working
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 10:42 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote: Hello, I thought this was working when we moved to Mailman 2.1.6b4 in June, (I could be wrong) but the monthly password reminder is not working. I, and a colleague, have tried to manually test the script for a single list but it is not working. The script that runs out of mailman's cron is: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron/mailpasswds I tried testing with: $ pwd /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron $ runas -u mailman ./mailpasswds -l testlist It just exits. Nothing in the mail or mailman logs. Other details: Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 Any suggestions? Have you verified that the list has its password reminder flag set to yes under general options and that the per user option to receive reminders is enabled for at least some members of the list? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. I would turn the problem around. Tell the hotmail users that hotmail is blocking their list mail, and they should contact hotmail and tell them to stop blocking their legit mail. Or, if it's not a business list, tell hotmail users they need to use a different address and move on. Send them all a gmail invite while you're at it. That's what I recommend too. Your list subscribers are not getting their list email because Hotmail is being unreasonable. Instead of expecting you to jump thru hoops for Hotmail, it's perfectly reasonable for you to put the shoe on the other foot and tell them to use a different email provider that has more reasonable policies. When Hotmail finds that they are losing users by droves they will stop expecting all legitimate senders to jump thru these unreasonable hoops. The 'Net treats censorship as damage and routes around it. (John Gilmore) In this case, the censorship is a side effect of Hotmail's Bonded Sender program being badly implemented (saying that your mail server can only speak to their mail server if it participates in Bonded Sender) and rejecting legitimate email. Route around it by assisting your Hotmail users in getting another email account. jc -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not working
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:13, John Dennis wrote: I tried testing with: $ pwd /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron $ runas -u mailman ./mailpasswds -l testlist It just exits. Nothing in the mail or mailman logs. Other details: Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 Any suggestions? Have you verified that the list has its password reminder flag set to yes under general options and that the per user option to receive reminders is enabled for at least some members of the list? That answer is 'Yes' to both questions. Anything else? Darren ODU -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman/PHP/Digest Issue
Hey All, My apologies in advance if I'm directing this to the wrong location, but I'm about out of ideas. I recently built a small PHP web form to allow individuals to send email updates to our various mailman lists. Everything works quite nicely for non-digest users, but when I tried to configure the script for digest users, things started to get weird. Initially, no matter how many emails I dispatched using the form, the Mailman digest always listed a single topic. In the MIME digest it attached a single message (the first message sent to the list) and in plaintext it appended all the messages sent to the list but still listed as a single message. The headers where all subsequent messages were to start seemed pretty messed up. So I decided to play with the headers a bit and added the line in the php: $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion() . \n; After that change all digests calculated the number of messages correctly and displayed the headers accurately. Unfortunately, though every thing looks good in digest/plaintext, digest/MIME was acting up. When a MIME digest was received in Outlook, the messages were not attached to the digest. Yet when I sent to a gmail account they appeared below as forwarded messages. Now if I forsake the php form and send MIME email from outlook to the list Outlook correctly creates a multipart/alternative email and the MIME/digest contains appropriate attachments for all messages. Below I list the headers that I'm setting in php, the relevant sections of the plaintext digest with incorrectly counted messages/topics and finally the relevant sections of the plaintext digest with the correct message count. Thanks in advance to anyone who has any thoughts php: $boundary='--' . md5( uniqid(IsNealAGenius) ); $headers = From: \Home Office\ . $from. \n; $headers .= Mime-Version: 1.0\n; $headers .= Content-type: multipart/alternative;\n boundary=\$boundary\\n X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion() . \n; $message=\nThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.\n; $message.=\n\n--$boundary\n; $message.=Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\us-ascii\\n; $message.=Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n\n; $mail_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $message .= strip_tags($test); $message .= \n\n--$boundary\n; $message .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=\us-ascii\\n; $message.=Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n\n; $message .= $test; mail ($mail_to,test,$message,$headers); .. plaintext digest 1. Today's Topics: 1. test (Home Office) -- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Home Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Test_list] test Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. 274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit stripped HTML here. 274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Real HTML here 274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f-- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 21 10:19:51 2005 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by mail.here.com http://mail.here.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 0952E52406B; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:19:51 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Home Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--921e4b971d970fe077e26dadad939251 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Test_list] test X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Test list to work out bugs test_list.here.com List-Unsubscribe: *http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list*http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list , *mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /heremail List-Post: *mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: *mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: *http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list*http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list , *mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. 921e4b971d970fe077e26dadad939251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit . Rest of message plaintext digest #2: Today's Topics: 1. test (Home Office) 2. test (Home Office) 3. test (Home Office) -- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:56:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Home Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Test_list] test Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
Re: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not working
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 13:44 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote: On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:13, John Dennis wrote: I tried testing with: $ pwd /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron $ runas -u mailman ./mailpasswds -l testlist It just exits. Nothing in the mail or mailman logs. Other details: Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 Any suggestions? Have you verified that the list has its password reminder flag set to yes under general options and that the per user option to receive reminders is enabled for at least some members of the list? That answer is 'Yes' to both questions. Anything else? Well, if it were me I'd edit the script and throw in a few print statements in a few judicious places to track what it was or wasn't doing since you're not getting any info in the logs. Python print statements are pretty easy, in its simplest form: print value1=%s value2=%s % (value1, value2) each %s is replaced by the matching value inside the parens, just make sure the indentation of the print statement lines up. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bandwidth monitoring per list
Anne Ramey wrote: Is there a tool I could use, or a way inside mailman itself, to monitor the bandwidth used by a particular list? Either to institute a quota or (preferably) end up with a stats type graph or set of #s? here is a thread that may be of interest to you: http://www.nabble.com/Throttle-outbound-mail-delivery-restricted-to-200-per-hour%2C-Bounce-t197531.html#a552093 Also, try search Nabble's archive of Mailman mailing lists here: http://www.nabble.com/Mailman-f1728.html It allows you to cross search all mailman related lists in one place. You can post relies to any list or follow up with the author privately to find an answer to your question. -- Sent from the Mailman - Users forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/bandwidth-monitoring-per-list-t330401.html#a922351 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Message body getting cut off -- Header only
I'm sorry to bother everyone, but is there any way you might be able to help? Whenever I receive email on my desktop, everything is fine. The issue is on my PocketPC. Some (but not all...) of the emails I receive come in blank... EXCEPT for the common header (I believe that it is generated by your software). If I retrieve the same message on my desktop, the message reads fine. I would say it's an issue with my PPC, but the fact that only a few come in with this problem (and ALWAYS from the same senders), and I AM receiving and am able to see the header, I'm not sure. Has anyone else mentioned this problem? Thank you for your help. -Nelson -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Since I do webhosting the SNDS system uses SPF, and SPF does not work if you do mail forwarding. Mail gets denied and end up stuck in my mail queue. The only way is to repackage the email (per SPF website) but then if I forward a repackaged piece of SPAM, it looks now like it came from me. and I get blamed! That's why SPF cannot work in this design - or it seems in any webhosting scenario. Date sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:04:38 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: mailman-users@python.org Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems At 12:41 AM -0700 2005-09-21, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over again. You can certainly try their SNDS system, and try to follow whatever guidelines they have at their postmaster website. As far as that goes, it doesn't sound significantly different from what AOL does. However, at some point it sounds to me like you will probably need to decide how much you want your e-mail to get through their filters. If you want it badly enough, then you will probably pay to use their bonded sender program. Otherwise, you may be forced to eliminate all hotmail users from your lists, or at least live with the fact that most mail from you to hotmail is going to be blocked or dropped. Good luck! If you find out anything that you think may be of interest to the broader mail list admin community, please let us know. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] subscription via -request
Hi all, I was wondering if there is a way to silently subscribe people to a list via the -request command processor (ie sending email commands to listname-request)? If I send the command: subscribe password nodigest [EMAIL PROTECTED] it works fine, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] is then sent a message asking that she confirm the subscription by clicking a link. Our users are confused enough as it is, and we would like to avoid this step. I realize that the confirmation step was created to prevent any old yahoo from subscribing people to lists without their consent, but how would any old yahoo know what the list password is? Seems like an unnecessary extra layer of protection. We are running Mailman 2.1.5. Thanks! - jim - PS I realize that we can silently subscribe people via the GUI and the command line, but we wish to do it via email and -request processor only. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
