Re: [Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames via commandline
Hello Again, Is it true that there is no way to add member to the list with his full name from the command line? I know that the below syntax won't work: ./add_members -r - firstname1 lastname1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] somelistname But maybe some of you have solved it with some script or workaround? Best Regards, Leon Kolchinsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:23 PM To: Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames via commandline Hello All, I'd like to move lists from an old machine (Solaris 8) to new one (SLES 9) with all their corresponding members. I'm creating new list (on my new server) with newlist command. To see the members of the list with their full names I run (on the old machine): # ./list_members -f listname I got this kind of members list: firstname1 lastname1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] firstname2 lastname2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Is there syntax to add members with add_members or another command, so I could directly add them to new list with their full names? Leon Kolchinsky -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lkolchin%40univ.haifa.ac.il Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual host document root for mailman/listinfo
Tom Combs wrote: Hello, I'm running mailman-2.1.6rc4 and apache-2.0.54. I have a virtual host set up for my mailman web interface. I would like the listinfo page to be the default page for my mailman web address so one can enter http://mylists.com instead of http://mylists.com/mailman/listinfo. I haven't been able to figure out what the document root setting for the mylists virtual host setting should be in the apache http.conf file. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Tom Combs sorry Tom, first mail was replied falsely, wanted to send it to the list, not to you I made it simple, i have put a directory htdocs in /home/mailman, where my mailman is installed (because of settings in suExec that does not allow to execute cgi's that are not in wwwroot), in the lists.mydomain.tld vhost i have DocumentRoot in /home/www/htdocs, in there is one html-File with this content: html head titleRedirection/title meta http-equiv=refresh content=0; URL=mailman/listinfo /head body If the redirection does not work, click a href=mailman/listinfohere/a! /body /html This is of course not a very fine solution but it works, and it works with virtual hosts too, just give every apache vhost for which you have mailinglists the DocumentRoot /home/mailman/htdocs. Greets Christian -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames via commandline
Hello! On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 12:00:58PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Again, Is it true that there is no way to add member to the list with his full name from the command line? I know that the below syntax won't work: ./add_members -r - firstname1 lastname1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] somelistname There're a few things wrong with that command line. First, you'd probably have to quote the special characters, , , and . Second, with -r - you specify that add_members will read the addresses of the members to add from standard input. I.e. you could try something like echo 'firstname lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]' | add_members -r - listname [...] Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual host document root for mailman/listinfo
Hi, You should make something like this in your apache.conf (or whatever you call it apache conf. file) For SuSE for example do something like: In /etc/apache2/default-server.conf (add these lines): ## ## ## mailman ## # Redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page (recommended) RedirectMatch /[/]*$ http://mylists.com/mailman/listinfo ## ## end mailman ## ## Regards, Leon Kolchinsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Anton Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:48 PM Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual host document root for mailman/listinfo Tom Combs wrote: Hello, I'm running mailman-2.1.6rc4 and apache-2.0.54. I have a virtual host set up for my mailman web interface. I would like the listinfo page to be the default page for my mailman web address so one can enter http://mylists.com instead of http://mylists.com/mailman/listinfo. I haven't been able to figure out what the document root setting for the mylists virtual host setting should be in the apache http.conf file. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Tom Combs sorry Tom, first mail was replied falsely, wanted to send it to the list, not to you I made it simple, i have put a directory htdocs in /home/mailman, where my mailman is installed (because of settings in suExec that does not allow to execute cgi's that are not in wwwroot), in the lists.mydomain.tld vhost i have DocumentRoot in /home/www/htdocs, in there is one html-File with this content: html head titleRedirection/title meta http-equiv=refresh content=0; URL=mailman/listinfo /head body If the redirection does not work, click a href=mailman/listinfohere/a! /body /html This is of course not a very fine solution but it works, and it works with virtual hosts too, just give every apache vhost for which you have mailinglists the DocumentRoot /home/mailman/htdocs. Greets Christian -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lkolchin%40univ.haifa.ac.il Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames viacommandline
Hello Hannah, Thanks for your reply. Terrific, there is no syntax for such thing in ./add_members --help!!! This syntax is working: echo 'firstname lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]' | ./add_members -r - testlist2 Could you please tell what syntax should I use if I have file with the list of users, like following: firstname1 lastname1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] firstname2 lastname2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Best Regards, Leon Kolchinsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hannah Schroeter Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:08 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames viacommandline Hello! On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 12:00:58PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Again, Is it true that there is no way to add member to the list with his full name from the command line? I know that the below syntax won't work: ./add_members -r - firstname1 lastname1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] somelistname There're a few things wrong with that command line. First, you'd probably have to quote the special characters, , , and . Second, with -r - you specify that add_members will read the addresses of the members to add from standard input. I.e. you could try something like echo 'firstname lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]' | add_members -r - listname [...] Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lkolchin%40univ.haifa.ac.il Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
Hi List After about a year of trying, I think I have finally got AOL to whitelist my (subscription only!) mailing list :-( http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/whitelist.pl (if anyone is interested) In the mailing list I have around 1500 members with aol addresses with their 'nosend' ticked. Obviously, after repeated bounces mailman has given up trying to send it to them. I could, through the web interface, untick the 'nosend' flag, to switch them all back on again which would take ages. Is their a way of clearing the nosend flag from the command line for all @aol.com addresses? TIA Jon Harris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unsuccessful subscribe/unsubscribe notifications?
Hello, I was wondering if there is a way for Mailman to send the administrator a notification email whenever there is an unsuccessful subscribe or unsubscribe attempt. I know it is possible whenever the subscribe/unsubscribe goes through, but I cannot find an option for the former, and it would be extremely helpful. Thanks, Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Synchronizing Mailman between two servers.
Aaron, I'm very interested in the solution you chose, and in how well it works for you. I'm in the process of designing a fault-tolerant mailman installation, and any wisdom from experience would be very useful. Thanks! -Brian IT Purchases wrote: Hello, Any thoughts on what is the best way to synchronize mailman databases between to linux boxes? If my alias_maps are defined the same in /etc/postfix/main.cf are the same on both hosts can I just duplicate my /usr/lib/mailman and /var/lib/mailman directories? Aaron ~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/finley%40anl.gov Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp -- Brian Elliott Finley Linux Strategist, CIS Desk: 630.252.4742 Cell: 630.631.6621 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not working
Hello,
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 14:01, John Dennis wrote:
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 13:44 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote:
Anything else?
Well, if it were me I'd edit the script and throw in a few print
statements in a few judicious places to track what it was or wasn't
doing since you're not getting any info in the logs.
Python print statements are pretty easy, in its simplest form:
print value1=%s value2=%s % (value1, value2)
each %s is replaced by the matching value inside the parens, just make
sure the indentation of the print statement lines up.
Thanks for the 'print' statement because I do not know python, but
it will be on my list to learn it.
I added this to my version of mailpasswds at line 237:
print msg=%s % (msg)
msg.send(sitelist, **{'errorsto': sitebounce,
'_nolist' : 1,
'verp': mm_cfg.VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS,
})
The output from the print statement shows that everything is in the
message but once it hands off to msg.send for the delivery that is
it. Where is msg.send located? Also, has anyone played with the
test_message.py script in the mailman/tests directory? I haven't seen
any documentation on the test code, a Google search offers no help and
the Mailman FAQ wizard comes up with zero hits.
Darren
Old Dominion University
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman daemon broken.
Hi, I had two mailing list perfectly running on a FBSD 5.4 server. Since last reboot the daemon of the mail manager seems broken: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|120#/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 389, in main lock = acquire_lock(force) File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 213, in acquire_lock lock = acquire_lock_1(force) File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 205, in acquire_lock_1 hostname, pid, tempfile = get_lock_data() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 173, in get_lock_data pid = int(parts[-1]) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): be smtp to polytech2010 for 1 rec Could anyone help me resolving this problem ? Thank you in advance. -- Arnaud de Prelle BEPolytech Server Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://bepolytech.be -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman
Hi everybody, First, sorry for my poor english... I install mailman 2.1.5 on my CentOS distro. I can create list via web interface. I setup mm_cfg conf file. By example, i create a list nammed test We can suscribe to the list, but the problem is than when we sent an email to the list email, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], just this email receive the mail... Only [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail from the sender... Is there a configuration to make ? Our email server is not on the same server... Perhaps there is an aliases problem ? here is my /etc/aliases file : mailman: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman test: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test post test test-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test admin test test-bounces: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test bounces test test-confirm: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test confirm test test-join: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test join test test-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test leave test test-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test owner test test-request: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test request test test-subscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test subscribe test test-unsubscribe: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/test unsubscribe test i found nothing in logs... all emails are create... All advices are welcome... :) Many thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 18:39 +0200, julien grosjean wrote: By example, i create a list nammed test We can suscribe to the list, but the problem is than when we sent an email to the list email, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], just this email receive the mail... Only [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail from the sender... Is there a configuration to make ? Our email server is not on the same server... If your mailserver is not local have you configured your SMTPHOST in mm_cfg? i found nothing in logs... Which logs? Did you look at /var/log/mailman/smtp to see if the message was sent? If so does /var/log/mailman/bounce show the mail bounced? Does /var/log/mailman/error show anything? Does your test list have members? Are you looking in the inbox of the test list members to see if it was received? Are you aware that there is a flag to prevent a sender from receiving their own post, if you send the mail from the same address you're expecting to see it returned in from the list, you won't. Have you looked in /var/log/maillog for SMTP messages? Have you reloaded your aliases? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Synchronizing Mailman between two servers.
At 9:46 AM -0500 2005-09-22, Brian Elliott Finley wrote: I'm very interested in the solution you chose, and in how well it works for you. Sorry, I missed the original message. I'm in the process of designing a fault-tolerant mailman installation, and any wisdom from experience would be very useful. Generally speaking, I don't think that many people try to do this. You can off-load the web processing with multiple front-end web proxies, and you can off-load the mail processing with multiple inbound and outbound mail servers (usually best kept as separate groups, since the anti-spam, anti-virus, and certain other requirements are different for inbound versus outbound use), and the rest is just Mailman itself. But, if you do want to go the whole nine yards, the Mailman programmers have been pretty careful to keep everything relatively NFS-safe, so you should just be able to have an NFS filesystem which is then mounted on all of the Mailman servers (preferably served by a high availability/redundant NFS server cluster). Doing things over NFS will slow down individual operations, but the overall aggregate throughput might be able to be higher, if the NFS server has the right architecture and you spread the load out across enough Mailman servers, etc Any thoughts on what is the best way to synchronize mailman databases between to linux boxes? Mailman doesn't really use databases. At least, not out-of-the-box. There are third-party unsupported patches to allow database member adapters, but that's about it. Mailman stores pretty much everything into Python pickle files, which is a particular binary Python-specific file format that can be quickly saved and re-loaded in the native binary format. If my alias_maps are defined the same in /etc/postfix/main.cf are the same on both hosts can I just duplicate my /usr/lib/mailman and /var/lib/mailman directories? Duplicate? What do you mean by duplicate? Just once? If so, then the directories would get out-of-sync. You'd have to keep all the directories in sync somehow. In a nearline backup method, something as simple as rsync would suffice, and would potentially only lose any information that was written since the last rsync. In a production OLTP type of environment, you'd have to use shared filesystems between the sets of machines, and you'd have to make sure that those shared filesystems implement all the necessary cluster-wide locking facilities, etc... to keep Mailman working correctly. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
Try this patch. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=982644group_id=1 03atid=300103 Date sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:08:55 +0100 From: Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailman-Users@python.org Subject:[Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist Hi List After about a year of trying, I think I have finally got AOL to whitelist my (subscription only!) mailing list :-( http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/whitelist.pl (if anyone is interested) In the mailing list I have around 1500 members with aol addresses with their 'nosend' ticked. Obviously, after repeated bounces mailman has given up trying to send it to them. I could, through the web interface, untick the 'nosend' flag, to switch them all back on again which would take ages. Is their a way of clearing the nosend flag from the command line for all @aol.com addresses? TIA Jon Harris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
Lloyd Thanks for that, I will give it a go. Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lloyd F. Tennison Sent: 22 September 2005 18:02 To: Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist Try this patch. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=982644group_id =1 03atid=300103 Date sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:08:55 +0100 From: Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailman-Users@python.org Subject:[Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist Hi List After about a year of trying, I think I have finally got AOL to whitelist my (subscription only!) mailing list :-( http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/whitelist.pl (if anyone is interested) In the mailing list I have around 1500 members with aol addresses with their 'nosend' ticked. Obviously, after repeated bounces mailman has given up trying to send it to them. I could, through the web interface, untick the 'nosend' flag, to switch them all back on again which would take ages. Is their a way of clearing the nosend flag from the command line for all @aol.com addresses? TIA Jon Harris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.u s Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.h tp Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/j.harris%40digital- ink.co.uk Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unsuccessful subscribe/unsubscribe notifications?
Hello, I was wondering if there is a way for Mailman to send the administrator a notification email whenever there is an unsuccessful subscribe or unsubscribe attempt. I know it is possible whenever the subscribe/unsubscribe goes through, but I cannot find an option for the former, and it would be extremely helpful. Thanks, Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not working
Hello,
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 11:28, Darren G Pifer wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 14:01, John Dennis wrote:
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 13:44 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote:
Anything else?
Python print statements are pretty easy, in its simplest form:
print value1=%s value2=%s % (value1, value2)
each %s is replaced by the matching value inside the parens, just make
sure the indentation of the print statement lines up.
Thanks for the 'print' statement because I do not know python, but
it will be on my list to learn it.
I added this to my version of mailpasswds at line 237:
print msg=%s % (msg)
msg.send(sitelist, **{'errorsto': sitebounce,
'_nolist' : 1,
'verp': mm_cfg.VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS,
})
Just to let everyone know, for grins and giggles, I changed the msg.send
line to:
msg.send(mlist)
and it sent the password reminder. Now I must find out why the original
code did not work. Can someone who knows python tell me what the second
argument to msg.send is doing? Also, were there changes in the code
from 2.1.6b4 (our current version) to 2.1.6 for mailpasswds? We will be
upgrading soon but I wonder if we should do it sooner rather than later.
Darren
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Synchronizing Mailman between two servers.
Hello, i'm looking at this for our setup as well. How are others handling the Mailman processes (qrunners) starting on a second server once the first server has gone down, and switching back to the first server once it has recovered? Mailman's locks are usually not cleaned up properly when a server unexpectedly fails - although we could force the locks to be removed and start mailman processes on the second machine, we'll need to be sure that the first machine is really dead. I assume two machines trying to run qrunners on the same mailman directories at once is not a good thing. This brings me to search for a way to insure that even if other services on a machine are not available, Mailman is certainly not operating on the Mailman directories before I try starting Mailman processes on a second machine. Perhaps looking at access / modification times of particualr files or directories, relative to the current time? Are there any ideas or comments from others doing or looking into this? - Ivan Fetch. I'm very interested in the solution you chose, and in how well it works for you. Sorry, I missed the original message. I'm in the process of designing a fault-tolerant mailman installation, and any wisdom from experience would be very useful. Generally speaking, I don't think that many people try to do this. You can off-load the web processing with multiple front-end web proxies, and you can off-load the mail processing with multiple inbound and outbound mail servers (usually best kept as separate groups, since the anti-spam, anti-virus, and certain other requirements are different for inbound versus outbound use), and the rest is just Mailman itself. But, if you do want to go the whole nine yards, the Mailman programmers have been pretty careful to keep everything relatively NFS-safe, so you should just be able to have an NFS filesystem which is then mounted on all of the Mailman servers (preferably served by a high availability/redundant NFS server cluster). Doing things over NFS will slow down individual operations, but the overall aggregate throughput might be able to be higher, if the NFS server has the right architecture and you spread the load out across enough Mailman servers, etc Any thoughts on what is the best way to synchronize mailman databases between to linux boxes? Mailman doesn't really use databases. At least, not out-of-the-box. There are third-party unsupported patches to allow database member adapters, but that's about it. Mailman stores pretty much everything into Python pickle files, which is a particular binary Python-specific file format that can be quickly saved and re-loaded in the native binary format. If my alias_maps are defined the same in /etc/postfix/main.cf are the same on both hosts can I just duplicate my /usr/lib/mailman and /var/lib/mailman directories? Duplicate? What do you mean by duplicate? Just once? If so, then the directories would get out-of-sync. You'd have to keep all the directories in sync somehow. In a nearline backup method, something as simple as rsync would suffice, and would potentially only lose any information that was written since the last rsync. In a production OLTP type of environment, you'd have to use shared filesystems between the sets of machines, and you'd have to make sure that those shared filesystems implement all the necessary cluster-wide locking facilities, etc... to keep Mailman working correctly. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ifetch%40du.edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Redirecting html-pages to another mailman server
Hi List I'm trying to migrate from version 2.0.8 to 2.1.5 by transferring lists one by one from old server to new server. Problem is to keep server name the same (lists.jyu.fi) all the time. So I decided to first move that name to new server and redirect mail addresses and html-accesses from there to old server. Mail is handled by aliases-file. For www-pages I'm creating fake-lists with names suchlike in old server and with old server as host_name. That will direct links on html-pages to old server, but direct html-accesses must be redirected too. I'm doing this using templates like: /usr/lib/mailman/lists/test-list/en/admlogin.html: meta http-equiv=refresh content=5; url=http://lists2.cc.jyu.fi%(path)s /usr/lib/mailman/lists/test-list/en/listinfo.html: meta http-equiv=refresh content=5; url=http://lists2.cc.jyu.fi/mailman/listinfo/MM-List-Name /usr/lib/mailman/lists/test-list/en/options.html: This is one problem. Access of members option-page is not directly handled by options.html-template any more, like it was in version 2.0.8, and templates are not at all compatible. Any ideas how to get this working? Apache-redirect's are possible, but I did like the template approach more so far. Also don't want to modify .../Cgi/options.py. Someone must have considered something like this before. I tried to find something from archives and FAQ wizard, but no hit yet. I think it would be easy to add such list option to Mailman to redirect all list access to another server? This approach is not only for migrating lists but could serve as kind of front end distributing lists among several servers. regards Osmo Kujala -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] HTML Message Excerpt
Is there a way to see the HTML in the 'Message Excerpt' rendered in the web interface? Some of my users find it inconvenient that it is the raw source of the body. They have a hard time picturing how the message would look. If not, is there a major reason to why it is not included? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Change respond_to_post_requests text
We are using MailMan 2.1.5 on WhiteBox Linux. Is it possible to change the default message in the respond_to_post_requests when the message is moderated? We would like it to be a little more intuitive for our list members as to why their message is being held. If so, where is the location of the file so it can be modified? Thanks. John --- John Hansen Director of Information and Technology Cotter High School Junior High School 1115 W. Broadway Winona, MN 55987 (507) 453-5179 - Voice (507) 453-5199 - Cotter Tech Department -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cotter Technology Department, and is believed to be clean. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] umbrella lists and approved senders
We've set up chain of hierarchical lists to accommodate annual groups. Each year we create a list for the new cohorts: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then add the new class-of list to the umbrella list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each list is set to allow postings from subscribers and a small set of approved non-subscribed addresses. I'd like to add these approved addresses to the umbrella list and have messages go through without owner/moderator approval to the sublists. As it is now, we have to add the approved addresses to each sublist. Any suggestions? Thanks, _Gary -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Master Unsubscribe
I would like to be able to have a main page where a person can remove themselves from all lists on the server with just one command/entry. I know they can eventually get to the unsubscribe all button, but I want to be able to have an all button like some of the large list services have. I have thought of making a master list and having that on the main page - but cannot find an easy way to link to that unsubscribe all button. I do not see a way that the umbrella can help me here either. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
Jon Harris wrote: Hi List After about a year of trying, I think I have finally got AOL to whitelist my (subscription only!) mailing list :-( http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/whitelist.pl (if anyone is interested) In the mailing list I have around 1500 members with aol addresses with their 'nosend' ticked. Obviously, after repeated bounces mailman has given up trying to send it to them. And after having had my own (subscription only) mailing list added to their whitelist, I have been in constant contact with the Mail Delivery Analyst of AOL UK AntiSpam operations as that ISP's accounts still seem to bounce constantly. After analysing over 100 ov my lists' mails and telling me what IP needed adding, he then had the cheek to ask me what IP address I'd added! At the moment, he's away on holiday (so his I'm out of the office and I don't want to deal with your mail auto-responder tells me) so I'm rubbing my hands with glee in anticipation of next Monday morning Oh, and just as an aside, myself and my co-moderators have given very serious thought to banning AOL addresses on our list. Not a decision we've taken lightly, but after 3 such instances with the same ISP in less than 5 months (and no othe ISP giving us anywhere near the amount of trouble that they have), it's time for action. Regards MD -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman daemon broken.
Arnaud de Prelle wrote: Hi, I had two mailing list perfectly running on a FBSD 5.4 server. Since last reboot the daemon of the mail manager seems broken: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|120#/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 389, in main lock = acquire_lock(force) File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 213, in acquire_lock lock = acquire_lock_1(force) File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 205, in acquire_lock_1 hostname, pid, tempfile = get_lock_data() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 173, in get_lock_data pid = int(parts[-1]) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): be smtp to polytech2010 for 1 rec Could anyone help me resolving this problem ? Thank you in advance. I've found where was situated the problem! Simply in /usr/local/mailman/locks ... -- Arnaud de Prelle BEPolytech Server Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://bepolytech.be -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
At 9:15 PM +0100 9/22/05, Martin Dennett wrote: Oh, and just as an aside, myself and my co-moderators have given very serious thought to banning AOL addresses on our list. Not a decision we've taken lightly, but after 3 such instances with the same ISP in less than 5 months (and no othe ISP giving us anywhere near the amount of trouble that they have), it's time for action. That's what I've done. AOL was an ongoing headache, and I got tired of their high-handedness. AOL subscribers who want to receive my list can use free yahoo or gmail accounts, and many of them do. -- Heather Madrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
I actually have had zero problems with them after the initial whitelisting eighteen months ago - except it took over a week when I moved my server. (They said it should take 48 hours.) I send almost 300,000 to them three times a week - all without problems, plus normal hosting emails. They are always extremely responsive. Now with all the changes in Hotmail last week - THEY are a problem. Their whitelist through BondedSender.com will cost me almost three grand a year. - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:26:55 -0700 From: Heather Madrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 9:15 PM +0100 9/22/05, Martin Dennett wrote: Oh, and just as an aside, myself and my co-moderators have given very serious thought to banning AOL addresses on our list. Not a decision we've taken lightly, but after 3 such instances with the same ISP in less than 5 months (and no othe ISP giving us anywhere near the amount of trouble that they have), it's time for action. That's what I've done. AOL was an ongoing headache, and I got tired of their high-handedness. AOL subscribers who want to receive my list can use free yahoo or gmail accounts, and many of them do. -- Heather Madrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman- users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- users/lists%40viplist.us Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Synchronizing Mailman between two servers.
At 11:46 AM -0600 2005-09-22, Ivan Fetch wrote: i'm looking at this for our setup as well. How are others handling the Mailman processes (qrunners) starting on a second server once the first server has gone down, and switching back to the first server once it has recovered? You'd have to have some sort of heartbeat monitor application which uses the standard OS start/stop routines when it decides that the other system has gone down, and might need to put in some additional lock cleanup code in there. Moreover, you'd have to make sure that the problem is not in the heartbeat monitor script, which could potentially cause the Mailman processes on both machines to be running and each think that the other is down. You'd also need to make sure that you don't start Mailman on the second machine if the shared filesystem is not properly available. And there are a bazillion other potential failure modes that you'd also need to look out for. Doing high availability is tough. Much tougher than anyone ever gives it credit for. The problem is that Mailman was never designed to be used/abused in this way, so you're pretty much in completely uncharted water. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mmdsr -- Mailman Daily Status Reports (Bourne shellscript, updated)
At 9:57 PM -0700 2005-09-10, Mark Sapiro wrote: The script assumes the a single specified directory (normally the VAR_PREFIX directory) contains the queues in the qfiles/ directory and the logs in the logs/ directory. This isn't the case in all installations. I modified it to allow independent specification of the directory containing the logs. The script leaves a temp file behind. See the above URL for my comments and patch. I've taken your submission and incorporated that, as well as fixing another bug that was brought to my attention by Adrian Wells. It turns out that there is a minor log file difference between Mailman versions 2.1.5 and 2.1.6, which causes the smtp log to be written in a slightly different format. The code should now handle both styles without problems. See the latest version and comments at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1123383group_id=103atid=300103. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
