[Mailman-Users] problem with html emails with signature

2005-09-23 Thread Χρήστος Ράμμος
Hello all.
I came into a very strange condition.
I sent one HTML email with a signature to a Mailman mailing list without
having a footer and the email arrived well and perfectly signed.
When i tried to do the same but with the difference that i included one
or more reciepients in the CC field then the email arrived with broken
signature

The above problem came using Netscape/Thunderbird email client but when
i used MS Outlook Express then the signature was perfect!

Does anyone had any similar problem?

P.S.: i am signing this message too.. and making *bold and /italic /to
have some html things to see if it fails to your list too.!!!*
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[Mailman-Users] Small reply address problem

2005-09-23 Thread paul collen
Hello there,

I was wondering if someone could help with a small annoying problem. I've
inherited a mailman system (2.1.5) but I'm not exactly up to speed with
Linux and GNU software (but I'm trying). The problem we have is that I can't
seem to change the display name of the reply address. When you receive an
email from our live digi-tech list or even from a test list I've setup it
says it's come from bounces-digi-tech@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've looked through
the admin pages and I've forced the reply address to be digi-tech@ and this
changes the actual reply address to digi-tech@ or test@ but the display
names are still prefixed with bounces-... Is this prefix hidden in a text
file somewhere?

Thanking you in advance :o)

Best regards,

Paul.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Small reply address problem

2005-09-23 Thread Sythos
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:42:37PM +0100, paul collen wrote:
 I was wondering if someone could help with a small annoying problem. I've
 inherited a mailman system (2.1.5) but I'm not exactly up to speed with
 Linux and GNU software (but I'm trying). The problem we have is that I can't
 seem to change the display name of the reply address. When you receive an
 email from our live digi-tech list or even from a test list I've setup it
 says it's come from bounces-digi-tech@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've looked 
 through
 the admin pages and I've forced the reply address to be digi-tech@ and this
 changes the actual reply address to digi-tech@ or test@ but the display
 names are still prefixed with bounces-... Is this prefix hidden in a text
 file somewhere?

In admin panel (via web) force reply-to header overwrite and set what
you want

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Small reply address problem

2005-09-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:42 PM +0100 2005-09-23, paul collen wrote:

When you receive an
  email from our live digi-tech list or even from a test list I've setup it
  says it's come from bounces-digi-tech@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Addresses of the form bounces- are not at all what Mailman 
would create.  If you are truly getting this, then it sounds like 
someone made some extensive modifications to your system, and we 
can't help you with those.

Mailman will send out messages with an envelope sender of 
listname-bounces (see what happens when you get your copy of this 
message from the mailman-users list), and some clients will 
inappropriately display this envelope sender address (see 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp).


It sounds to me like you need to provide more explicit details of 
precisely what is actually going on, with complete copies of headers 
from sample messages that you've created.

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[Mailman-Users] Can we use an external mail server with mailman ?

2005-09-23 Thread julien grosjean
Hi everybody,

I have a problem for the configuration of mailman with an external mail 
server

Here is a complement of informations about my first mail :
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg34423.html


SETUP DETAILS :

I install mailman 2.1.5 on my CentOS distro.

I setup mm_cfg conf file like this :

##start file
DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'extranet-proxiad.com'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'proxiad.com'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
MTA = 'Postfix'
###end file


MAIL SERVER DETAILS

My Mail Server is NOT on the same server than my mailman server...
My mail server is proxiad.com (217.109.179.10) with smtp.proxiad.com and 
pop.proxiad.com (This server requiert an authentification... )

My mailman server is extranet-proxiad.com (193.252.219.206)

All emails are create on the mail server.
The mail server receive the mail correctly.
With my mail client, [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail, but not 
suscribers...



THE PROBLEM :

I create a test list via web interface.

We can suscribe to the list, but the problem is than when we sent an
email to the list email, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED],
just this email receive the mail...
Only [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail from the sender...
Is there a configuration to make ?



Perhaps there is an aliases problem ?

Should aliases be on the mail server or on the mailman server ?

here is my /etc/aliases file :

mailman:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman

test:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post test
test-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin test
test-bounces:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces test
test-confirm:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm test
test-join: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join test
test-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave test
test-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner test
test-request:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request test
test-subscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe test
test-unsubscribe:  |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe test

I ran newaliases command.

I am aware that there is a flag to prevent a sender from receiving their 
own post...


Logs are not very usefull... no error is reported...

Can we use an external mail server with mailman running on another server  ?

All advices are welcome...

Many thanks...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can we use an external mail server with mailman ?

2005-09-23 Thread John Dennis
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 16:27 +0200, julien grosjean wrote:
 MAIL SERVER DETAILS
 
 My Mail Server is NOT on the same server than my mailman server...
 My mail server is proxiad.com (217.109.179.10) with smtp.proxiad.com and 
 pop.proxiad.com (This server requiert an authentification... )
 
 My mailman server is extranet-proxiad.com (193.252.219.206)
 
 All emails are create on the mail server.
 The mail server receive the mail correctly.
 With my mail client, [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail, but not 
 suscribers...

 THE PROBLEM :
 
 I create a test list via web interface.
 
 We can suscribe to the list, but the problem is than when we sent an
 email to the list email, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 just this email receive the mail...
 Only [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail from the sender...
 Is there a configuration to make ?
 
 
 
 Perhaps there is an aliases problem ?
 
 Should aliases be on the mail server or on the mailman server ?

Part of the problem is the term mail server can be confusing because
there are two mail servers in the picture, a receiving mail server and a
sending mail server. Mailman needs run on the same machine the receiving
mail server is on otherwise your aliases will not work. The reason is
because when the receving mail server receives an email destined for a
mailman list the mail server will via its aliases determine the
destination for that list email is a program called mailman, thats what
all those aliases are all about. The receiving mail server then hands
the incoming list email to the program mailman. It can only give it to
the program mailman if mailman is running on the same machine.

Mailman in turn takes the email it received and looks up all the members
of the list and forwards the email to each of them. To do this mailman
invokes a sending mail server. Often the sending and receiving mail
servers (SMTP) are the same and run on the same box. But you can direct
mailman to use a different sending SMTP server via the SMTPHOST
variable.

Summary: mailman and the receiving SMTP server must be on the same
machine.

You description is a bit confusing because the way I read it mailman has
in fact received the list email (your previous post shows mailman
sending smtp posts). It could only have done that if it the its running
on the same machine as the receiving SMTP server and the aliaes are
correct. I suspect what actually occurred is those are examples from
mail sent on the machine mailman is running on where everything will
resolve correctly.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can we use an external mail server with mailman ?

2005-09-23 Thread John Dennis
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 16:27 +0200, julien grosjean wrote:
 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'proxiad.com'
 My mailman server is extranet-proxiad.com (193.252.219.206)

 We can suscribe to the list, but the problem is than when we sent an
 email to the list email, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Sorry, I should have said this in my last email. This will not work. You
are tyring to send mail to proxiad.com but mailman is on
extranet-proxiad.com. proxiad.com won't know what to do with the mail,
Unless proxiad.com knows to relay the mail to extranet-proxiad.com.

Issues of relaying and SMTP configuration are outside the scope of the
mailman-users list. You will need to learn what the SMTP server is on
proxiad.com and configure it correctly. Or, locate everything on one
server.
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[Mailman-Users] new and improved stupid error

2005-09-23 Thread Sean Roe
Hi All,

I am getting the following error now when I start up mailman:

[client 192.168.4.199] Exception exceptions.A
ttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no attribute 'cursor' in 
bound m
ethod MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships ins
tance at 0x40221a8c ignored


I think the other sysadmin may of removed something by accident (or on 
purpose)  :)
Again, I am not a python guy at all, so be gentle.

Thanks,
Sean
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new and improved stupid error

2005-09-23 Thread John Dennis
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 09:22 -0700, Sean Roe wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am getting the following error now when I start up mailman:
 
 [client 192.168.4.199] Exception exceptions.A
 ttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no attribute 'cursor' in 
 bound m
 ethod MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
 Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships ins
 tance at 0x40221a8c ignored
 
 
 I think the other sysadmin may of removed something by accident (or on 
 purpose)  :)
 Again, I am not a python guy at all, so be gentle.

You are getting this error because either MysqlMemberships did not
initialize (the variable cursor is set in the MysqlMemberships
constructor) or possibly because the MysqlMemberships class instance was
destroyed more than once, but that seems unlikely. I would check how the
MysqlMemberships class instance is being created, which is likely in a
file called extend.py in the list directory ($prefix/lists/NAME where
NAME is the name of one of your lists).

Sorry, I realize this is a very python'ic answer but its the best I can
do given the info.
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[Mailman-Users] Mailing list creation mail has no Date header (bug#1212066)

2005-09-23 Thread Bjorn-Erik Townsend
Greetings all,

I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 (stable) with Courier-MTA, and I'm encountering 
bug 1212066 (mailing list creation mail has no Date: header).  
Unfortunately, Courier does not seem to insert a Date header if none is 
already present, so I'm receiving message creation mails with no date 
header.  It's setting off spamfilters and generally  being problematic 
for me. 

My question is twofold:

1) This bug hasn't been updated since May; are there any plans to fix it?
2) Does anyone know of a way to get Courier to insert Date headers if 
needed? I know RFC2822 says that this is not its job, but it would be 
nice to have a workaround until this issue is fixed.

Thank you for your attention!

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[Mailman-Users] ?? restore only 1 list in backup .tar

2005-09-23 Thread Alysson Dias
Hi

 

How I restore backup (file mailman.tar of complete /home/mailman) of
only 1 list in the server?

 

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] X-Mailing-List and non-local domain names?

2005-09-23 Thread Christopher Woodfield
Hi,

I recently took over running a list that runs on a friend's domain  
(let's call it foo.com) on my box, which is bar.com. We currently  
have everything working by setting up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list on the  
local mailman, pointing a [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias to it (the original  
address of the list), and setting up an explicit reply-to to point to  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] so the replies go to the right place.

The only other thing going on here is the fact that all of the  
mailing list headers (X-Beenthere, List-Id:, etc) still say  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I would prefer if bar.com's involvement in the list  
be transparent, which obviously isn't happening. Is there a way to  
configure mailman to change this behavior?

Thanks,

-Chris
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[Mailman-Users] Revised patch #820723 Mailman/pipermail/MHonArc integration patch

2005-09-23 Thread Richard Barrett
Just posted revised patch to:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/? 
func=detailaid=820723group_id=103atid=300103

and also available here (and also a revised version of the prepack  
Mailman distribution mm-ht-mh-2.1.6-0.2.tgz):

http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/mhonarc/index.html

Reason for revision is as follow:

mhonarc-2.1.6-0.2.patch.gz corrects an error in the modified code of  
$prefix/bin/arch introduced by the mhonarc-2.1.6-0.1.patch.gz - the  
problem was not present in patches for previous MM versions. In some  
circumstances, after running $prefix/bin/arch --wipe, the HTML message  
archive pages of subsequent posts to a list  and per period archive  
index page my be generated using the wrong archiver. Examining index  
and message pages in the archives of a list will show if this problem  
has affected that list. Reinstallation with this revised patch and  
rerunning $prefix/bin/arch --wipe should resolve the problem for any  
affected list.

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[Mailman-Users] recommendations for adding conditional search form to archive template?

2005-09-23 Thread michael dunston
I would like to add a search form to some, but not all, of the archive TOC 
pages.  It looks like the most logical place to add the search form code would 
be the $prefix/templates/*/archtoc.html file, but I'm not sure how I would make 
this list-specific.  I thought I might try an IF statement 
http://python.org/doc/2.4.1/ref/if.html to only include a form when 
%(listname) matches a desired list, but I cant seem to get the syntax right.

Another idea that I though was to change the indexer so that:

$prefix/templates/*/archtoc.html - $prefix/archive/private/*/index.php

 rather than

$prefix/templates/*/archtoc.html - $prefix/archive/private/*/index.html

which would also allow me to dynamically include search forms dynamically with 
PHP but I'm not sure if/how that would be done either.  

Any suggestions or direction would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
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