[Mailman-Users] FW: Host not found
Hi guys! My friend has a home server and I use web / mail server services from him. He also uses mailman to provide mailing lists. He created some mailing lists and they work fine for him. I purchased 2 domains, and he created about 10 mailing lists for me. The problem is that when I try to send an email on the mailing list, I *always* get back the following error: The original message was received at Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:17:13 +0200 from [x.x.x.x] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: mail.mydomain.org.: host not found) Any ideas how it can be solved!? He says that all the settings seem ok and they are the same like the other mailing lists that work for him. Thanks m8s! DC -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List specific gids?
Hello I have tried briefly to skim the archives and web with no answer so far. The problem is that I have some lists that require mail-gid and others . This makes it imposssible scheme to everyday operation, of course (changing it in mailman.mail-gid file). Now, is it list-wise defined somewhere? Some of the lists have been copied from previous installation of mailman, which might explain some aspects of the problem. To my ear this sounds like there is a place per list, where to change this. Only, can't find where... I am running SuSE 9.3, Postfix and Mailman. Seeking desperately help hannu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List specific gids?
At 11:27 AM +0300 2005-10-25, Niemi Hannu wrote: The problem is that I have some lists that require mail-gid and others . This makes it imposssible scheme to everyday operation, of course (changing it in mailman.mail-gid file). Now, is it list-wise defined somewhere? Nope. I don't think that this is something that can be easily resolved. The problem is that there is only one set of Mailman processes which is handling all the various different lists, so everything has to be uniform when it comes to things like group ids. You might be able to install multiple instances of Mailman, each operating on a different virtual domain, but that's going to get messy to configure in your web server, your mail server, your startup scripts, etc It should be do-able, but it's not going to be easy. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] list info, etc on digest mail..
Hi In digest mail, the listinfo, subscribe/unsubscribe info comes in the top of the mail. can this be moved to teh bottom on the page? the digest mail shoudl start with the table of content. regards Babul -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] VS: List specific gids?
-Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lähetetty: 25. lokakuuta 2005 11:45 Vastaanottaja: Niemi Hannu Kopio: mailman-users@python.org Aihe: Re: [Mailman-Users] List specific gids? At 11:27 AM +0300 2005-10-25, Niemi Hannu wrote: The problem is that I have some lists that require mail-gid and others . This makes it imposssible scheme to everyday operation, of course (changing it in mailman.mail-gid file). Now, is it list-wise defined somewhere? Nope. I don't think that this is something that can be easily resolved. The problem is that there is only one set of Mailman processes which is handling all the various different lists, so everything has to be uniform when it comes to things like group ids. You might be able to install multiple instances of Mailman, each operating on a different virtual domain, but that's going to get messy to configure in your web server, your mail server, your startup scripts, etc It should be do-able, but it's not going to be easy. Maybe I expressed myself wrong. I just would ike to harmonize all the lists to same gid. I just wonder WHERE is the gid per list stored or how to make sure it's same as the default. regards hannu niemi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] VS: List specific gids?
At 12:23 PM +0300 2005-10-25, Niemi Hannu wrote: Maybe I expressed myself wrong. I just would ike to harmonize all the lists to same gid. Right. The same one as Mailman. I just wonder WHERE is the gid per list stored or how to make sure it's same as the default. There is no per-list group id. None. The group id has to be the same as Mailman, otherwise things break. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] VS: VS: List specific gids?
Maybe I expressed myself wrong. I just would ike to harmonize all the lists to same gid. Right. The same one as Mailman. Agreed I just wonder WHERE is the gid per list stored or how to make sure it's same as the default. There is no per-list group id. None. The group id has to be the same as Mailman, otherwise things break. Then HOW is it possible that some lists work, when etc/mailman/mailman.mail-gid is nogroup (65533 in my box) and others when it's mailman (67)? I can reproduce the symptom and cure for each list. Now, HOW does the mailman change the gid it uses per list? hannu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] VS: VS: List specific gids?
At 12:34 PM +0300 2005-10-25, Niemi Hannu wrote: There is no per-list group id. None. The group id has to be the same as Mailman, otherwise things break. Then HOW is it possible that some lists work, when etc/mailman/mailman.mail-gid is nogroup (65533 in my box) and others when it's mailman (67)? Dunno. Maybe the permissions on some list directories are more open than they should be, so that even if the group id is wrong, the operations are still allowed to happen. I can reproduce the symptom and cure for each list. Now, HOW does the mailman change the gid it uses per list? As I said, it doesn't. Period. End of discussion. You've got something much more fundamentally broken on your machine. You might want to try re-installing from scratch, then copying over only the list configuration pickles. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] basic email interface to mailman
I am interested in the basic email interface to mailman. Not for my subscribers, but for purposes of scripting some of the lists management. I have easily determined the email address to reach this interface for my lists, and of the 'help' and 'help set' commands to get the list of commands for interfacing with mailman by email. But I hope/think there must be more supported than is in that list. In particular, I see how to subscribe someone by new email address, but not how to set the associated 'name' for the subscriber... data that is kept/supported/shown in the web interface. Is it not supported? Is it in one of those 'documentation' items that I think I looked completely through? :-) Thanks in advance! -- -bC Barry Conner Annapolis, MDUSA You're only young once, but you can be immature forever! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Host not found
Woops my bad! I quoted the incorrect error message! The error msg I am getting is this one: The original message was received at Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:14:15 +0200 from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mail.mydomain.org.: DATA 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown 554 Error: no valid recipients Any ideas?! DC _ From: Daniel Cuschieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 October 2005 08:34 To: 'mailman-users@python.org' Subject: FW: Host not found Hi guys! My friend has a home server and I use web / mail server services from him. He also uses mailman to provide mailing lists. He created some mailing lists and they work fine for him. I purchased 2 domains, and he created about 10 mailing lists for me. The problem is that when I try to send an email on the mailing list, I *always* get back the following error: The original message was received at Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:17:13 +0200 from [x.x.x.x] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: mail.mydomain.org.: host not found) Any ideas how it can be solved!? He says that all the settings seem ok and they are the same like the other mailing lists that work for him. Thanks m8s! DC -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Host not found
Daniel Cuschieri said: Hi guys! My friend has a home server and I use web / mail server services from him. He also uses mailman to provide mailing lists. He created some mailing lists and they work fine for him. I purchased 2 domains, and he created about 10 mailing lists for me. The problem is that when I try to send an email on the mailing list, I *always* get back the following error: The original message was received at Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:17:13 +0200 from [x.x.x.x] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: mail.mydomain.org.: host not found) This sounds like DNS has not been completely configured for your domains. Assuming that you are trying to send a message from your hotmail account to your list, when you hit 'send', the hotmail server trys to lookup the address for your domain, but can't find the mail server. You'll have to go to whoever you registered your domains with and if they are handling DNS for you make sure that your domain has an MX record. If they don't handle DNS directly, then they should have an entry that points at the server that does handle it (your friend's machine?) and make sure that you have a proper MX record there. Hope this helps. /dwight -- Dwight N. Tovey email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.dtovey.net/~dwight --- I don't mind going nowhere as long as it's an interesting path. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Host not found
Daniel Cuschieri said: Woops my bad! I quoted the incorrect error message! The error msg I am getting is this one: The original message was received at Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:14:15 +0200 from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mail.mydomain.org.: DATA 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown 554 Error: no valid recipients Ok, so now we've found what machine the mail list is on, but that machine doesn't know about the list. You need to tell the SMTP daemon how to deliver messages to Mailman. The specifics of this will depend on which SMTP server you are using (sendmail, exim, postfix, qmail). Look at Chapter 6 in the Mailman Installation Manual: http://www.list.org/mailman-install/mail-server.html /dwight -- Dwight N. Tovey email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.dtovey.net/~dwight --- Note in Laser Printer case: Do not look at laser with your remaining good eye -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Posting problems to all users of our mailing list...
Morning All, Fairly long story so please bear with me. I am the webmaster for our local parent teachers origination's web page. One of our duties is to send a weekly email to about 550 users with current school happenings. Since it's inception last year my Mailman mail list has not reached all users. I've worked with several of our users to diagnose the problem with no success. I find no correlation at all with the users...some are Road Runner, AOL, SBC Global etc. I've asked all to check their SPAM folders...nothing. My installation is through a shared web host so I don't have access to any of the Mailman configuration files. It got to the point where I just switched web hosts (now bluehost.com) to see if we could resolve the problem. Now I seem to get better coverage of the 550 users and, in fact, am now sending to some of the users that were not getting our posts before but I'm still not hitting everyone. Any ideas from ANYONE would be greatly appreciated. My web host's support is next to useless but if someone has something for me to ask I'll send in the support request. TIA, -Troy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Host not found
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 15:17 +0200, Daniel Cuschieri wrote: Woops my bad! I quoted the incorrect error message! The error msg I am getting is this one: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mail.mydomain.org.: DATA 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown 554 Error: no valid recipients This is a postfix MTA error, as such it is not a mailman error, as such you should direct your research towards postfix (www.postfix.org) not mailman. However, that being said I'll try to explain what is going on and I hope that will point you in the right direction. At the core of the problem is that postfix does not know about your mailman aliases. There is documentation in the mailman installation guide on configuring mailman and postfix (http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html), start by reading that. Next postfix has an option to reject mail for local users which are not known to postfix, that is what is getting triggered here, so read this postfix documentation (http://www.postfix.org/LOCAL_RECIPIENT_README.html). Finally, it appears you have virtual addressing enabled for postfix, I'm not sure why you need this, its seems like an unnecessary complication for your set up. The mailman postfix integration guide how to configure this, but like I said, I don't see why you need this, or at least you haven't indicated why you need to map a non-existant domain. The postfix site has good documentation on virtual domains (http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html), reading that might shed some light. HTH, -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix
Hi everybody! I have a (most likely very simple and noob) question: whenever I try to create a new mailing list using the mailman web interface, i get the following error: Error: unknown virtual host: www.domain.net also for all mailto links mailman displays address@www.domain.net can someone help please? i've been googling half the day ... lol best wishes, Jan * //* -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Error msg for one list, can't fix
I have a problem similar to the one posted by Doc Schneider a few days ago, but I have not been able to fix things. I have this in logs/errors: Oct 25 15:22:15 2005 (9353) Uncaught runner exception: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) Oct 25 15:22:15 2005 (9353) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 152, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 285, in verpdeliver Decorate.process(mlist, msgcopy, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py, line 58, in process username = username.encode(Utils.GetCharSet(d['user_language'])) UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) As per Mark Sapiro's directions, which helped Doc, I did the following: 1) shut down the Mailman qrunner 2) edited private/mylist.mbox/mylist.mbox (I removed all messages since before the last successfully delivered message) 3) removed all files from qfiles/shunt 4) did bin/arch -wipe mylist 5) restarted Mailman 6) sent a test message The test message gave me the error messages shown above. Ideas? - Kevin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Posters not getting their own posts: not metoo broken?
I've looked through the FAQ and the last few months on the mail archive. This subject has come up before, but I'm pretty sure that I have things configured correctly; correct me if I'm mistaken. The predicament: our users want to see their own posts. The posts go out to everyone on the list except for the original poster. We are using MailMan 2.1.6. Here's the configuration: General Options [ ] Do not send a copy of a member's own post [ ] Filter out duplicate messages to list members (if possible) Membership Management... - Membership List all users are set with the following options: [ ] not metoo [X] nodupes As I understand it, as long as not metoo is unchecked, that poster will see their own postings. nodupes has no bearing on this, IIUC, but I've included it anyway. To test this configuration, I just send an email to the list. It did show up in the list archives but I did not get a copy. Help? Many thanks, Joshua -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error msg for one list, can't fix (SOLVED)
Solved! Kevin McCann wrote: I have a problem similar to the one posted by Doc Schneider a few days ago, but I have not been able to fix things. I have this in logs/errors: Looking at this line was the clue username = username.encode(Utils.GetCharSet(d['user_language'])) UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) Checked the email addresses subscribed (using list_members), didn't see anything. Then I listed with fullnames (list_members -f ) and looked for anything out of the ordinary. Saw a question mark in one of the names. Looked at the user via the web interface and she had a username of Valeria but the e was accented. I removed her address and all is now OK. Question: how do I avoid this in the future? - Kevin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] postfix and Installetion problem
Hello all, I would like to run mailman at my Mac os 10.4 server, I have 2 questions: I read the documetation and it said to enable postfix use postfix enabler, Doesn't running mail services would be enough, since tiger runs postfix. thanks -Popak -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix and Installetion problem
On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:52 PM, Popak Roshan wrote: I would like to run mailman at my Mac os 10.4 server, I have 2 questions: I read the documetation and it said to enable postfix use postfix enabler, Doesn't running mail services would be enough, since tiger runs postfix. In Server Admin you just need to enable mailing lists: select mail service/settings/mailing lists and check the box to enable them. Once you've done that, it's better to ignore Apple's pathetic GUI and just use Mailman's own web interface. Dan Dan Phillips Professor of Horn, University of Memphis webmaster: http://music.memphis.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] VS: VS: List specific gids?
Niemi Hannu wrote: Then HOW is it possible that some lists work, when etc/mailman/mailman.mail-gid is nogroup (65533 in my box) and others when it's mailman (67)? I can reproduce the symptom and cure for each list. Now, HOW does the mailman change the gid it uses per list? Either you actually have two different wrappers (the program that the MTA pipes the incoming messages to), one invoked for one subset of lists and another for the other lists. Check your MTA aliases or whatever your MTA uses to know where to deliver the mail. Or this is some SuSE specific modification that most of us know nothing about. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] basic email interface to mailman
bARRY wrote: I am interested in the basic email interface to mailman. Not for my subscribers, but for purposes of scripting some of the lists management. There essentially isn't one. I have easily determined the email address to reach this interface for my lists, and of the 'help' and 'help set' commands to get the list of commands for interfacing with mailman by email. But I hope/think there must be more supported than is in that list. Only email approval/denial of held posts and requests. That's about it. And that requires admin_immed_notify be set to Yes so the admin/moderator will get a notice with a confirm token in it. In particular, I see how to subscribe someone by new email address, but not how to set the associated 'name' for the subscriber... data that is kept/supported/shown in the web interface. Is it not supported? If a user subscribes him/herself, the real name is taken from the From: header of the e-mail. If anyone subscribes a different address via the address= option on an e-mail subscribe command, no real name can be specified. Note that if the list is set for subscription confirmation, a confirmation of this request is sent to the address to be added, no matter who submits the request. It really is not designed for admin subscribes. Is it in one of those 'documentation' items that I think I looked completely through? :-) No, you haven't overlooked it. Mailman is designed for web based list administration only. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Attach Pics
I want to allow pics but nothing else. No html emails, exes, zips etc I got the list to block everthing but I am not seeing how to allow just pics to go thru. -- No Smoking Forum - Http://www.nicodemon.info/community Lansing Forum - Http://www.greater-lansing.com/community He's Not My President!!! Blue States Rock~ The truth is not that comfortableno - Moby~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Host not found
John Dennis wrote: Finally, it appears you have virtual addressing enabled for postfix, I'm not sure why you need this, its seems like an unnecessary complication for your set up. The mailman postfix integration guide how to configure this, but like I said, I don't see why you need this, or at least you haven't indicated why you need to map a non-existant domain. The postfix site has good documentation on virtual domains (http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html), reading that might shed some light. The OP said the lists were on a friend's server and the friend ran other lists that work, so I'm guessing that these lists are in their own virtual domain and recognition of that is what is missing from postfix. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] basic email interface to mailman
At 5:14 PM -0700 10/25/05, Mark Sapiro wrote: bARRY wrote: I am interested in the basic email interface to mailman. Not for my subscribers, but for purposes of scripting some of the lists management. There essentially isn't one. I'm a little confused about this statement. Most of the old majordomo administrative email commands work with Mailman. Not config or newconfig, but a lot of the other ones. -- Heather Madrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attach Pics
David wrote: I want to allow pics but nothing else. No html emails, exes, zips etc I got the list to block everthing but I am not seeing how to allow just pics to go thru. In content filtering, one way to to this is filter_content - yes filter_mime_types - empty pass_mime_types - multipart/mixed multipart/alternative message/rfc822 text/plain image This allows only text/plain parts and image parts from multipart/mixed messages and parts, multipart/alternative messages and parts and attached message parts. If you also want to allow PGP signed messages, add multipart/signed application/pgp-signature to the above pass_mime_types list. If you want to restrict image types to say GIF, JPEG and PNG only, remove image from the list and add image/gif image/jpeg image/png Of course, some evil doer can always send a zip or exe to your list with MIME type image/jpeg. In Mailman 2.1.6, you can protect against this to some extent with header_filter_rules (in Privacy options...-Spam filters as described in the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.051.htp. This doesn't work in 2.1.5 and earlier because they don't search sub-part headers for header_filter_rules. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attach Pics
Ok I was trying to both one has to be empty..duh some times you just look at something so long you dont get it. Yes that worked. I never ran Mailman before so I am trying to get everything set as I am almost ready to go live finally. One more thing. If people are on moderation is there some place to set it that they dont get notification of being moderated and their message is just held without them knowing it. One more thing and I think I will be all set is there a feature for members to just turn off emails like if they are going on vacation etc? Mark Sapiro wrote: David wrote: I want to allow pics but nothing else. No html emails, exes, zips etc I got the list to block everthing but I am not seeing how to allow just pics to go thru. In content filtering, one way to to this is filter_content - yes filter_mime_types - empty pass_mime_types - multipart/mixed multipart/alternative message/rfc822 text/plain image This allows only text/plain parts and image parts from multipart/mixed messages and parts, multipart/alternative messages and parts and attached message parts. If you also want to allow PGP signed messages, add multipart/signed application/pgp-signature to the above pass_mime_types list. If you want to restrict image types to say GIF, JPEG and PNG only, remove image from the list and add image/gif image/jpeg image/png Of course, some evil doer can always send a zip or exe to your list with MIME type image/jpeg. In Mailman 2.1.6, you can protect against this to some extent with header_filter_rules (in Privacy options...-Spam filters as described in the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.051.htp. This doesn't work in 2.1.5 and earlier because they don't search sub-part headers for header_filter_rules. -- No Smoking Forum - Http://www.nicodemon.info/community Lansing Forum - Http://www.greater-lansing.com/community He's Not My President!!! Blue States Rock~ The truth is not that comfortableno - Moby~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] basic email interface to mailman
Heather Madrone wrote: At 5:14 PM -0700 10/25/05, Mark Sapiro wrote: bARRY wrote: I am interested in the basic email interface to mailman. Not for my subscribers, but for purposes of scripting some of the lists management. There essentially isn't one. I'm a little confused about this statement. Most of the old majordomo administrative email commands work with Mailman. Not config or newconfig, but a lot of the other ones. The supported e-mail commands, with the limited exception of 'confirm' and perhaps 'who' all support only user type functions, not list administration functions. The OP was aware of the e-mail command documentation returned by e-mail 'help' and 'help set' commands and was looking for more. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Posters not getting their own posts: not metoobroken?
Joshua Keroes wrote: The predicament: our users want to see their own posts. The posts go out to everyone on the list except for the original poster. We are using MailMan 2.1.6. Here's the configuration: General Options [ ] Do not send a copy of a member's own post [ ] Filter out duplicate messages to list members (if possible) These are defaults for new members, the ones below apply. Membership Management... - Membership List all users are set with the following options: [ ] not metoo [X] nodupes As I understand it, as long as not metoo is unchecked, that poster will see their own postings. nodupes has no bearing on this, IIUC, but I've included it anyway. It may. If the user is in the habit of CCing him/herself on posts to the list, nodupes will supress the post from the list. To test this configuration, I just send an email to the list. It did show up in the list archives but I did not get a copy. If your own address is not mentioned in any To: or Cc: header, not metoo is not set for you, and everyone else received the post, then I don't know. Do you have access to Mailman's logs? If so, you can check the bounce log to see if the delivery to you bounced. You can also check the smtp log to see how many recipients there were and compare that to the number of non-digest subscribers with delivery enabled to see if any are missing. You aren't a digest subscriber by any chance? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attach Pics
David wrote: One more thing. If people are on moderation is there some place to set it that they dont get notification of being moderated and their message is just held without them knowing it. No. If member_moderation_action is hold or reject, the member is notified. Only if member_moderation_action is discard is there no notice. One more thing and I think I will be all set is there a feature for members to just turn off emails like if they are going on vacation etc? Yes. A member can disable delivery from the user options page or by emailing a 'set delivery off' command (requires a 'set authenticate' command - send mail with subject 'set help' to the list-request address for more info). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix and Installetion problem
On 10/25/05 4:52 PM, Popak Roshan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I would like to run mailman at my Mac os 10.4 server, I have 2 questions: I read the documetation and it said to enable postfix use postfix enabler, Doesn't running mail services would be enough, since tiger runs postfix. Your mention of Postfix Enabler implies you're reading the instructions I wrote. Those instructions are for MacOS X client. Client has postfix included but no tools for turning it on short of manual configuration nor does it have a POP or IMAP server. MacOS X server, OTOH, has all that plus already has an Apple-modified version of mailman. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Posting problems to all users of our mailing list...
Troy Cranford wrote: It got to the point where I just switched web hosts (now bluehost.com) to see if we could resolve the problem. Now I seem to get better coverage of the 550 users and, in fact, am now sending to some of the users that were not getting our posts before but I'm still not hitting everyone. Any ideas from ANYONE would be greatly appreciated. My web host's support is next to useless but if someone has something for me to ask I'll send in the support request. I assume you've checked that everyone is a non-digest subscriber and that all have delivery enabled (fairly easy to check from the list roster page, at least for non-hidden members). What I would do, if I can't see logs and might not be able to get support to look at them for me is on the bounce processing page, make sure that bounce_processing is on and all the notifications are on (and make sure I have a valid 'owner' e-mail so I'll get the notifications). Then set bounce_score_threshold to 0.5. This will make the first bounce disable the user (or send a probe to disable the user). The owner will be notified and receive a copy of the bounce. Then, after a day or two, set the bounce_score_threshold back to a reasonable value and re-enable the disabled users. What this accomplishes is it gets you a copy of the bounce notice for each mail user that bounced, and you may then use that information to follow up on why. Some other general thoughts. How do you know who's not getting the mail? This is generally not easy to determine reliably. Even when people complain that they didn't get something, it isn't always true. ISPs do lots of things with mail besides delivering it or rejecting it. Some ISPs will just silently discard mail they don't like. Thus in these cases, you won't see a bounce and the recipient won't see the mail and the ISP may not admit that this has happened. ISPs tend to think that it's to their advantage to protect their users from spam even if it means discarding some desired mail. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix
Jan-Simon Winkelmann wrote: whenever I try to create a new mailing list using the mailman web interface, i get the following error: Error: unknown virtual host: www.domain.net also for all mailto links mailman displays address@www.domain.net You can probably correct the mailto: links for an existing list by changing host_name on the list's General Options page. You can't create lists via the web because you are accessing the web page via host www.domain.net, and that fqdn is not a url-host in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary (not the first argument of any add_virtualhost() ), and VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW has its default value of On. What do you have in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py for DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and add_virtualhost()? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list info, etc on digest mail..
Shillong Dotcom wrote: In digest mail, the listinfo, subscribe/unsubscribe info comes in the top of the mail. can this be moved to teh bottom on the page? the digest mail shoudl start with the table of content. regards See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045749.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
