[Mailman-Users] Problem with Postfix virtual Domains
Hi! As I posted previously, I am running a postfix/cyrus mailserver combination along with mailman. There is no problem with the mailing lists as long as I stick to the original configuration for the domain: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'webnauts.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.webnauts.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['webnauts.net'] add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) As soon as I change the config to: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.webnauts.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.webnauts.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.webnauts.net'] add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) I want this so I i can still have the same mail aliases on the lists.webnauts.net virtual domain as i have on my main domain. Problem being: if i now try to post to a list created with the modified configuration, i get an error from the MTA, mail getting bounced: Oct 27 09:57:18 webnauts postfix/smtp[7808]: 820ED608167: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (mail for lists.webnauts.net loops back to myself) Does anyone know why this happens? I've been googling about this for hours and I just can't find anything proper on the topic. best wishes, Jan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Postfix virtual Domains
Jan-Simon Winkelmann wrote: As soon as I change the config to: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.webnauts.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.webnauts.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.webnauts.net'] add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) I want this so I i can still have the same mail aliases on the lists.webnauts.net virtual domain as i have on my main domain. This may be a clue. Problem being: if i now try to post to a list created with the modified configuration, i get an error from the MTA, mail getting bounced: Oct 27 09:57:18 webnauts postfix/smtp[7808]: 820ED608167: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (mail for lists.webnauts.net loops back to myself) This appears to be a postfix configuration problem that has nothing to do with Mailman per se. However, my ignorant guess is that you have entries for the same list name in both domains in your 'virtual-mailman' file and this is causing the confusion. At this point, you may have to hand edit your 'aliases' and 'virtual-mailman' files and run postalias and postmap. Also, you don't say, and it has nothing to do with the problem, but if you want the new mail domain for lists created prior to changing mm_cfg.py, you need to manually change host_name on the General Options page for those lists or run fix_url (run bin/fux_url.py for instructions). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Standard Variable for the Sender
What is the standard variable for the Sender? TIA David -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem to send e-mil to the list
Thomas Spuhler wrote: I upgraded my server to Mandriva 2006. Since then I cannot send post to the mailing list on my server. When I add a new user I get a confirmation. When I create a new list, I get a confirmation. When I post to the list, I get the mseeage the the user doesn't exist. This appears to be an MTA configuration (aliases?) issue. Whne I post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can send the e-mail but of course it comes back. Comes back from what with what reason? Do you mean it comes back from mailman? If so, with what reason. Offhand, I can't think of any reason why Mailman wouldn't accept it except maybe 'implicit destination' and this should result in a held message, not a reject. It looks as if mailman doesn't pick up the correct 2domain.com It looks to me like a MTA (postfix) configuration issue. I have in mm_cfg.py domain.com as e-mail address for the server. I am using Kolab 2 and postfix as e-mail setup. Or maybe it's a Kolab 2/postfix issue. I don't think it's Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mailman without hosting mail server
All, New to the list and mailman so please go easy. ;^) I did check the archives as well as did some extensive searching online and was unable to find an answer to my question. My company's email is hosted by an email provider. This has not been a bad arrangement; however, now we would like to provide some email lists. Is it possible to host mailman and lists without hosting our own mail? If it is possible would any of you please point me to some documentation or possibly point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance, Darich -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Standard Variable for the Sender
David J.B.Hollis wrote: What is the standard variable for the Sender? In what context? If you mean for replacement in list headers and footers, there isn't one. It's in the From: header unless the list is anonymous, and why is the list anonymous if you want to reveal the sender in a list header or footer? I suppose there might be some spam filter reason if that is in fact the setup, but anyway, there's no header/footer replacement variable for the sender. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without hosting mail server
Darich Runyan/OMNI INFOSEC HQ wrote: New to the list and mailman so please go easy. ;^) I did check the archives as well as did some extensive searching online and was unable to find an answer to my question. My company's email is hosted by an email provider. This has not been a bad arrangement; however, now we would like to provide some email lists. Is it possible to host mailman and lists without hosting our own mail? If it is possible would any of you please point me to some documentation or possibly point me in the right direction? Yes, but it's not too easy. Using an external outgoing mail server is easily configured in Mailman and may work, but there may problems with the server not wanting to 'relay' your outgoing mail, at least without authorization. If this is the case, there is a simple patch for username/password authorization. Using an external server for incoming list mail is more complicated and usually requires something like fetchmail to get the mail from the server and something like procmail or maybe Mailman's 'maildir' feature to get the mail to Mailman. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-October/047082.html for a little more detail and the above mentioned patch. Also search this list's archives for things like 'external mail server' and 'fetchmail'. Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without hosting mail server
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 10:27 -0400, Darich Runyan/OMNI INFOSEC HQ wrote: All, New to the list and mailman so please go easy. ;^) I did check the archives as well as did some extensive searching online and was unable to find an answer to my question. My company's email is hosted by an email provider. This has not been a bad arrangement; however, now we would like to provide some email lists. Is it possible to host mailman and lists without hosting our own mail? If it is possible would any of you please point me to some documentation or possibly point me in the right direction? The general answer is no. The standard mailman deployment requires access at the root (e.g. admin) level to the mail transport agent (MTA) and the web server. There are various schemes whereby one can decouple these components and some folks have tried this, I cannot comment on their success or satisfaction. But there are two things to be aware of here. 1) Setting up a decoupling strategy requires a moderately sophisticated knowledge of how the various components work, if you have that level of expertise you probably could be doing your own hosting instead of relying on an external hosting vendor. 2) Many hosting vendors provide mailman mailing lists as part of their hosting package. If your company prefers to use a hosting vendor, and there are many fine reasons for that decision, then perhaps the path of least resistance and greatest success to select a hosting vendor that provides mailman support in addition to the other services your company needs. FWIW, I've had good luck with www.dreamhost.com, they offer many excellent features on their accounts for a very reasonable fee. I'm not affiliated with the company at all. Although I'm more than qualified to provide my own hosting for my personal computing endeavors I believe the approximate $10/month for what I get is not worth the headache of DIY (Do It Yourself), YMMV. A little bit of searching will yield a number of other hosting companies with mailman support. One caveat, if you do go with the hosted solution you won't be able to perform some of the fine grained administration tasks you'll see discussed here (using the command line utilities) because that requires root level access to the server. In practice I tend to believe that is not a huge issue, but you should be aware it is a limitation. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without hosting mail server
Thanks for the quick reply. I was afraid that it was possible but would be very complex/time consuming. I guess I will look into either migrating hosting of our email in-house, or as John Dennis pointed out, finding a hosting company that provides list services. Thanks again, Darich On Oct 27, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Darich Runyan/OMNI INFOSEC HQ wrote: New to the list and mailman so please go easy. ;^) I did check the archives as well as did some extensive searching online and was unable to find an answer to my question. My company's email is hosted by an email provider. This has not been a bad arrangement; however, now we would like to provide some email lists. Is it possible to host mailman and lists without hosting our own mail? If it is possible would any of you please point me to some documentation or possibly point me in the right direction? Yes, but it's not too easy. Using an external outgoing mail server is easily configured in Mailman and may work, but there may problems with the server not wanting to 'relay' your outgoing mail, at least without authorization. If this is the case, there is a simple patch for username/password authorization. Using an external server for incoming list mail is more complicated and usually requires something like fetchmail to get the mail from the server and something like procmail or maybe Mailman's 'maildir' feature to get the mail to Mailman. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-October/ 047082.html for a little more detail and the above mentioned patch. Also search this list's archives for things like 'external mail server' and 'fetchmail'. Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan --- Darich Runyan President/Principal Consultant Omni Infosec Ltd. 734 Thimble Shoals Blvd. Newport News, VA 23606 757-876-3805 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without hosting mail server
Darich Runyan/OMNI INFOSEC HQ wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I was afraid that it was possible but would be very complex/time consuming. I guess I will look into either migrating hosting of our email in-house, or as John Dennis pointed out, finding a hosting company that provides list services. One more thing you might consider which I think works well for some is if you are willing to have your lists in a separate domain from your main email domain, you can run an MTA on your Mailman host just for the lists. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] the shunt mail queue
Hello, I sent a message to a mailman list on my server. The message was not delivered. At first, I got a mesage indicating that sendmail was not running with group=mailman. So I stopped and started sendmail with group=mailman. This allowed the mail to get as far as the in queue but could go no farther. Permission errors during processing clued me into the idea of stopping and re-starting sendmail with user=mailman and group=mailman. Now, I see no error messages, but the notes I post to the list are ending up in the shunt queue. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? Joe Damico [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] the shunt mail queue
JOSEPH DAMICO wrote: Now, I see no error messages, but the notes I post to the list are ending up in the shunt queue. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? No, but there should be a detailed error report in Mailman's error log for each shunted message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] the shunt mail queue
JOSEPH DAMICO wrote: I sent a message to a mailman list on my server. The message was not delivered. At first, I got a mesage indicating that sendmail was not running with group=mailman. So I stopped and started sendmail with group=mailman. This allowed the mail to get as far as the in queue but could go no farther. Permission errors during processing clued me into the idea of stopping and re-starting sendmail with user=mailman and group=mailman. Now, I see no error messages, but the notes I post to the list are ending up in the shunt queue. Actually, running from the group that the wrapper expects should be sufficient. The fact that it wasn't indicates you still have permission problems in your Mailman hierarchy. Run bin/check_perms as root. If there are errors, run bin/check_perms -f until they're gone. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without hosting mail server
Darich Runyan/OMNI INFOSEC HQ wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I was afraid that it was possible but would be very complex/time consuming. I guess I will look into either migrating hosting of our email in-house, or as John Dennis pointed out, finding a hosting company that provides list services. Of these two choices, finding a better host is by FAR the easier answer. Migrating and running email in house can be very difficult. You have to deal with: Spam Viruses Sending email from many locations (for mobile users) (While avoiding having an open relay) Setting up a list manager Providing webmail options A good host does all these things for you. The small price for hosted email (and hosted websites) is usually far less than the labor costs for the employees and/or consultants needed to bring email services in-house for most small businesses. Only when your hosting costs start to approach the cost for an IT person's salary should most businesses consider bringing these services in-house. (There are exceptions, if you happen to have someone who is already expert in all these skills in-house, doing other tasks, who can do this stuff in spare time. But most small businesses who are using hosted email don't have someone who knows all of this and who has extra time to deal with all these tasks.) jc -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] the shunt mail queue
Many thanks, Mark. I had run check_perms earlier (when I installed), but must have messed up a few permissions since then. This fixed eveything. Excellent suggestion! Joe - Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:52 am Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] the shunt mail queue JOSEPH DAMICO wrote: I sent a message to a mailman list on my server. The message was not delivered. At first, I got a mesage indicating that sendmail was not running with group=mailman. So I stopped and started sendmail with group=mailman. This allowed the mail to get as far as the in queue but could go no farther. Permission errors during processing clued me into the idea of stopping and re- starting sendmail with user=mailman and group=mailman. Now, I see no error messages, but the notes I post to the list are ending up in the shunt queue. Actually, running from the group that the wrapper expects should be sufficient. The fact that it wasn't indicates you still have permission problems in your Mailman hierarchy. Run bin/check_perms as root. If there are errors, run bin/check_perms -f until they're gone. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] icon location and defaults
What controls icons and whether they display or not? It seems that when I am at my office, the three icons at the bottom of the mailman admin page display, but when accessing it remotely, they do NOT display. Also, where is the icon for the URL, which is supposed to display when domain.com/mailman/whatever is loaded, the left of the address? On my system, I just have the Mambo orange flower showing for everything, whether Mambo, Mailman, or other web apps. Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Posting problems to all users of our mailinglist...
- Original Message - Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Posting problems to all users of our mailinglist... Troy Cranford wrote: It got to the point where I just switched web hosts (now bluehost.com) to see if we could resolve the problem. Now I seem to get better coverage of the 550 users and, in fact, am now sending to some of the users that were not getting our posts before but I'm still not hitting everyone. Any ideas from ANYONE would be greatly appreciated. My web host's support is next to useless but if someone has something for me to ask I'll send in the support request. I can't see where the techincal suggestions have helped you fix your problem or not. Having just gone through this, and being computer and programing challenged I offer my experience. We set up a list with in excess of 700 members that average 80 posts a day. We actualy moved the membership list from a majordomo list to our shared server. When we were getting practically no mail delivered, to the list as well as to list members, and all but pulling our hair out, we were finally told by our hosting company that the list would not work on the shared server we were on! The server settings only allowed 350 posts an hour to or from any given domain email list. After purchasing a dedicated server, and putting the domain and list on a dedicated IP, things improved a lot. However, we continued to have some serious problems with mail delivery. Bounces were driving us nuts. Now that we have ferreted out all the member addresses that are not longer valid, shortened the time a given message can stay in the mail queue, discovered that some email accounts have a from and slightly different reply to address and making a subscription for the reply to address, setting that one to no mail, we are now enjoying the list. I hope I have not given bad suggestions and this helps if you are still having problems. Cathy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] icon location and defaults
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: What controls icons and whether they display or not? It seems that when I am at my office, the three icons at the bottom of the mailman admin page display, but when accessing it remotely, they do NOT display. The first control is the Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py setting for IMAGE_LOGOS. The default is IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'. If IMAGE_LOGOS = 0, no icons will be displayed. With the default setting, the generated HTML tag for the mailman logo is img src=/icons/mailman.jpg alt=Delivered by Mailman border=0 and similarly for the other logos. This means the browser will look in the host's document root directory for the /icons/ directory and therein for the logo files, or if /icons/ is aliased to another directory in the web server, the icon files should be in the aliased directory. If you see the logos from your office but not from home, perhaps you are not using the same URL (host name part) to access the pages or perhaps there are access controls on the icons directory that only allow access from your office network. Also, where is the icon for the URL, which is supposed to display when domain.com/mailman/whatever is loaded, the left of the address? On my system, I just have the Mambo orange flower showing for everything, whether Mambo, Mailman, or other web apps. Again, the generated html contains LINK REL=SHORTCUT ICON HREF=/icons/mm-icon.png where the /icons/ part comes from the IMAGE_LOGOS setting and the mm-icon.png part comes from the SHORTCUT_ICON setting. with most browsers, this will display the mm-icon.png image next to the URL. So the key to all of this is to make sure that all 5 .jpg and .png files (or at least 4 - mailman-large.jpg isn't used) from Mailman's icons/ directory are copied to a web accessible directory (usually the same one that already contains the web server's icons) and that IMAGE_LOGOS specifies the correct base path of the directory or a path which is aliased to the directory. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem to send e-mil to the list
On Thursday 27 October 2005 07:23 am, you wrote: Thomas Spuhler wrote: I upgraded my server to Mandriva 2006. Since then I cannot send post to the mailing list on my server. When I add a new user I get a confirmation. When I create a new list, I get a confirmation. When I post to the list, I get the mseeage the the user doesn't exist. This appears to be an MTA configuration (aliases?) issue. You are very likely right Whne I post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can send the e-mail but of course it comes back. Comes back from what with what reason? Do you mean it comes back from mailman? If so, with what reason. Offhand, I can't think of any reason why Mailman wouldn't accept it except maybe 'implicit destination' and this should result in a held message, not a reject. Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table) The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: Kolab Server It looks as if mailman doesn't pick up the correct 2domain.com It looks to me like a MTA (postfix) configuration issue. I have in mm_cfg.py domain.com as e-mail address for the server. I am using Kolab 2 and postfix as e-mail setup. Or maybe it's a Kolab 2/postfix issue. I don't think it's Mailman. No but I don't know how to solve it. I am probably missing something in the postfix configuration. How does postfix get to know the mailman mailing lists? where does it get the mailing list address. My mm_cfg.py has this: ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'btspuhler.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.btspuhler.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) MTA = 'Postfix' all I added in main.cf is this, the hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases as alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases -- Thomas Spuhler All e-mail from this domain is scanned for viruses pgpXxTeVY7mJB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help
i am having serious problems with mailman. we have nearly 700 members on our mailing list, and only some people are getting mail. i have reviewed the help sections, but need to know, step-by-step, how to export the email addresses from the list. can you please help me? jeremy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help
i am having serious problems with mailman. we have nearly 700 members on our mailing list, and only some people are getting mail. i have reviewed the help sections, but need to know, step-by-step, how to export the email addresses from the list. can you please help me? jeremy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem to send e-mil to the list
On Thursday 27 October 2005 08:32 pm, you wrote: Thomas Spuhler wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 07:23 am, you wrote: Thomas Spuhler wrote: Whne I post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can send the e-mail but of course it comes back. Comes back from what with what reason? Do you mean it comes back from mailman? If so, with what reason. Offhand, I can't think of any reason why Mailman wouldn't accept it except maybe 'implicit destination' and this should result in a held message, not a reject. Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table) The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: Kolab Server This message comes from postfix and is telling you it doesn't know how to deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is quite likely that your aliases are not configured in postfix in the right way. If things are properly configured, I don't think it will be using the Kolab Server transport protocol. What is required in postfix for mailman aliases, alias_maps, alias_database where does postfix get the mailman list addresses from? It looks as if mailman doesn't pick up the correct 2domain.com It looks to me like a MTA (postfix) configuration issue. I have in mm_cfg.py domain.com as e-mail address for the server. I am using Kolab 2 and postfix as e-mail setup. Or maybe it's a Kolab 2/postfix issue. I don't think it's Mailman. No but I don't know how to solve it. I am probably missing something in the postfix configuration. How does postfix get to know the mailman mailing lists? where does it get the mailing list address. My mm_cfg.py has this: ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'btspuhler.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.btspuhler.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) MTA = 'Postfix' all I added in main.cf is this, the hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases as alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases With MTA = 'Postfix', when you create a list, Mailman puts a bunch of aliases in /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases. They look something like list: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list list-admin:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list list-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list list-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list list-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list list-leave:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list list-owner:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list list-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list list-subscribe:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list list-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list these are in there for three lists. When I add a list member using the WEB interface and click on notify list owner, or if I add myself to the list, I get notified. (I receive the e-mail. The /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db gets updated. For what is the systemwide mailing list mailman used? Mailman then calls the POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD which in your case is the default '/usr/sbin/postalias' to update the aliases.db file. It is these aliases together with the above alias_maps in the postfix config that tell postfix how to deliver to 'list'. In your case, something is wrong with the aliases or aliases.db files content or permissions or they aren't where postfix thinks they are or something in the postfix configuration, perhaps having to do with Kolab 2, is interfering with postfix's use of the aliases, or ?? See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html and subordinates. If you still can't figure it out, try a postfix support list. This is not a Mailman problem. The mail never gets to Mailman. I was on this site already. Seems kind of outdated? or Mandriva just installs it very differently. -- Best regards Thomas Spuhler All e-mail from this domain is scanned for viruses pgps0oXpsSUd6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy:
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating Lists to a new server
Moving a Mailman list hosted on a cPanel based server is very easy (preferbly to another cPanel based server). Just take a full-site abckup and restore the tar file in the new server. All settings, archives move smoothly. On 10/18/05, Dennis Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. On Oct 17, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: In a flurry of recycled electrons, Dennis Putnam wrote: Can someone point me to some documentation for migrating mailman lists and archives to a new server? Thanks. Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py While the search engine appears to be out of service, the index isn't. Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ http://40python.org/ Start with http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.004.htp z! Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/shillong%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- www.Shillong.com http://www.Shillong.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem to send e-mil to the list
Thomas Spuhler wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 08:32 pm, you wrote: This message comes from postfix and is telling you it doesn't know how to deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is quite likely that your aliases are not configured in postfix in the right way. If things are properly configured, I don't think it will be using the Kolab Server transport protocol. What is required in postfix for mailman aliases, alias_maps, alias_database where does postfix get the mailman list addresses from? See below With MTA = 'Postfix', when you create a list, Mailman puts a bunch of aliases in /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases. They look something like list: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list list-admin:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list list-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list list-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list list-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list list-leave:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list list-owner:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list list-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list list-subscribe:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list list-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list these are in there for three lists. When I add a list member using the WEB interface and click on notify list owner, or if I add myself to the list, I get notified. (I receive the e-mail. An owner notification may be sent to 'list-owner' which if received would indicate that mail to 'list-owner' originating from 'localhost' is properly delivered back to Mailman, so something may work, but mail to 'list' originating from wherever you send it from doesn't seem to work. The /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db gets updated. For what is the systemwide mailing list mailman used? See the FAQ, Article 4.25 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Mailman then calls the POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD which in your case is the default '/usr/sbin/postalias' to update the aliases.db file. It is these aliases together with the above alias_maps in the postfix config that tell postfix how to deliver to 'list'. In your case, something is wrong with the aliases or aliases.db files content or permissions or they aren't where postfix thinks they are or something in the postfix configuration, perhaps having to do with Kolab 2, is interfering with postfix's use of the aliases, or ?? See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html and subordinates. If you still can't figure it out, try a postfix support list. This is not a Mailman problem. The mail never gets to Mailman. I was on this site already. Seems kind of outdated? or Mandriva just installs it very differently. I think the manual is current, but I don't use postfix, so I don't know for sure. As I said before, there isn't any more I can offer you. There are others on this list who know more about configuring postfix than I do, but this is a Mailman list. You might find more help from a postfix list or from your packager. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help
jeremy wrote: i am having serious problems with mailman. we have nearly 700 members on our mailing list, and only some people are getting mail. i have reviewed the help sections, but need to know, step-by-step, how to export the email addresses from the list. can you please help me? The steps differ depending on what you want and whether Mailman is on your server or elswhere, what kind of access you have to the server if any or if you just have access to the web admin pages for your list. So someone may be able to help you if you describe your configuration. Also, see the FAQ Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Articles 1.22 and 1.23, and search the archives of this list (see FAQ 1.18). This question has been answered many times on this list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
