[Mailman-Users] mailman going down
Hi, hope someone could help me... i have a server running mailman, one of our clients were having problems, every week his mailing list were going down, we checked everything and we have found nothing, the rest of the accounts mailing lists wrer running without problem. So we decided move him to another server, note this server never had any mailman problem, now after a week we moved him his mailing list gone down again, could any corruption in his mailing list cause this? I havent found any error that show me what is the exact problem in the logs. Anyone had this problem before? any solution? Thank you in advance! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Listserv
Can Mailman and LSoft's Listserv work concurrently on a webserver?? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
Morning, We're running MM v2.1.4-4, we're experiencing such high usage on our dual xeon server when mailman sends to 4000 users that port 25 becomes unresponsive. is there a way to nice the mailman delivery? Caylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 11:10 -0600, Caylan Van Larson wrote: Morning, We're running MM v2.1.4-4, we're experiencing such high usage on our dual xeon server when mailman sends to 4000 users that port 25 becomes unresponsive. is there a way to nice the mailman delivery? It sounds like your MTA is inefficient in some manner, is not a huge load for a dual server backed with a high bandwith connection. How many client connections can it simultaneously handle? Any chance you've got DNS delays (especially reverse lookup)? There are ways to control how many recipients are sent in each SMTP transaction. SMTP_MAX_RCPT = 500 is the default in mailman, defined in Defaults.py, overridden in mm_cfg.py If your MTA can only handle one, or a small number of client connections then each connection will be busy handling SMTP_MAX_RCPTS and other client connections will queue up. If you have 4,000 recipients then you have the potential to tie up 8 SMTP client connections. If you raise SMTP_MAX_RCPTS you may exceed your MTA's limit on number of recipients, but you'll consume few connections increasing the pool of available connections. If you lower it you'll increase the total connections needed, but your MTA should take connections round robin allowing other to jump in. By all means verify how many client connections your SMTP can handle. If you have VERP or personalization turned on mailman will have to initiate one SMTP transaction per recipient (are these features turned on?). This is inefficient because there is one recipient per SMTP connection. It will take the SMTP much longer to process because of the higher overhead, but on the other hand there should be plenty of opportunity for other clients to obtain a connection from the SMTP connection pool because mailman will cycle through connections in a serial manner leaving the rest of the SMTP client connection pool available for other SMTP clients. HTH, -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Listserv
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Mailman and LSoft's Listserv work concurrently on a webserver?? Yes, if you manually adminstrate /etc/mail/aliases it should work. We have such an installation which has been running for approximately 1 year now without any problems. We are migrating the Listserv lists slowly (and semi-transparently to the users) to Mailman. Kind regards, Peter - -- Peter Schneider-Kamp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LuFG Informatik II http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~nowonder RWTH Aachenphone: ++49 241 80-21211 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDmG+O3VbrCXkKHhwRAvB0AKCQkGGpz9nJ+bLvWLMYE2su7Gsc+wCdEd/D faPETvA5yg7Rs+tumv9LEok= =jTcs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
At 1:12 PM -0500 2005-12-08, John Dennis wrote: We're running MM v2.1.4-4, we're experiencing such high usage on our dual xeon server when mailman sends to 4000 users that port 25 becomes unresponsive. is there a way to nice the mailman delivery? It sounds like your MTA is inefficient in some manner, is not a huge load for a dual server backed with a high bandwith connection. How many client connections can it simultaneously handle? Any chance you've got DNS delays (especially reverse lookup)? They could also be doing all sorts of authentication/authorization or anti-spam/anti-virus checks on their outgoing mail. It is clearly stated in the FAQ that this is generally a bad idea for outgoing mail from the mailing list, since all that stuff should have been checked on the way in. The OP would be well-served to go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for performance, and read all the related FAQ entries. If you go down that list, I bet you'll find the problem and be able to relatively easily fix it. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How to stop sendmail from spewing messages one it starts?
I just ran into 2 problems. 1). A user added a large number of subscribers by uploading an Excel spreadsheet. Mailman accepted the file and addresses appeared reasonable when viewed with IE but not so good with mozilla (each alpha char was followed by a box). I was able to remove the names using the remove_members command by removing all members. It seems that it might be a good check when importing a list of users, for mailman to make sure it is a text file so users don't mess things up inadvertantly. 2). The second problem that developed is that the user has set notification on subscribing to yes and so she and her boss bere getting several thousand emails. I finally had to completely delete the list. Is there a better way to tell mailman to stop sending email from a specific list? If that is possible, I have not bumped into an explanation how mailman works so I would be able to stop it sending emails. Thanks in advance. paulw -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] how many mailman subscribers?
How many users (subscribers) can Mailman handle? It's been suggested to me that if you have over 1500 users, that one should consider using L-Soft's Listserv. Can anyone comment on there experience with Mailman and how many users it can handle? Thank you, Sandy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how many mailman subscribers?
At 3:58 PM -0500 2005-12-08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many users (subscribers) can Mailman handle? It's been suggested to me that if you have over 1500 users, that one should consider using L-Soft's Listserv. Can anyone comment on there experience with Mailman and how many users it can handle? See the Mailman FAQ Wizard. In short, it can easily handle over 100,000 users, on the right machine with the right hardware and software configuration, depending on their communication traffic patterns. But there's a lot more info on this subject in the FAQ. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how many mailman subscribers?
In a flurry of recycled electrons, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many users (subscribers) can Mailman handle? It's been suggested to me that if you have over 1500 users, that one should consider using L-Soft's Listserv. Can anyone comment on there experience with Mailman and how many users it can handle? Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py which points to: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.015.htp The largest list reported to date had around 147,000 members. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman going down
Just in case if this could help, loged in in SSH it showing: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1134077045.176533+00632c22397f1e7b8c7b1fc80c3166dcdb1227b3.pck' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1134077045.1850851+93896ccb37d9ab56c7998fabb25e9b07753442b0.pck' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1134078407.852843+25bf1628f39825092d0533d5b51921d94daad16b.pck' Thank you! - Original Message - From: Manuel Kissoyan To: mailman mailing list Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: mailman going down Hi, hope someone could help me... i have a server running mailman, one of our clients were having problems, every week his mailing list were going down, we checked everything and we have found nothing, the rest of the accounts mailing lists wrer running without problem. So we decided move him to another server, note this server never had any mailman problem, now after a week we moved him his mailing list gone down again, could any corruption in his mailing list cause this? I havent found any error that show me what is the exact problem in the logs. Anyone had this problem before? any solution? Thank you in advance! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Unable to create new mail list from browser.
I am trying to create a new mail list thru the web browser interface. The list contents are the same as the mailman list, only this list name is different. I get the following msg on the web browser: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists. I am able to create this new mail list using the command line newlist Could someone tell me what is going on? Regards Elvis -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
On Dec 8, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 2005-12-08, John Dennis wrote: We're running MM v2.1.4-4, we're experiencing such high usage on our dual xeon server when mailman sends to 4000 users that port 25 becomes unresponsive. is there a way to nice the mailman delivery? It sounds like your MTA is inefficient in some manner, is not a huge load for a dual server backed with a high bandwith connection. How many client connections can it simultaneously handle? Any chance you've got DNS delays (especially reverse lookup)? They could also be doing all sorts of authentication/authorization or anti-spam/anti-virus checks on their outgoing mail. It is clearly stated in the FAQ that this is generally a bad idea for outgoing mail from the mailing list, since all that stuff should have been checked on the way in. Thanks for all those that responded. After thinking about this for a bit, we realized that we were using a content-filter in postfix to divert all incoming port 25 to a barracuda spam appliance. This was then coming back in 10027 for delivery. To further amplify the problem, /home is NFS mounted... which means, lots of network IO. Here are the changes we made. mm_cfg.py SMTP_MAX_RCPT = 2000 SMTPPORT=10027 main.cf smtpd_recipient_limit = 1000 default_process_limit = 150 Thanks, Caylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman going down
Manuel Kissoyan wrote: Just in case if this could help, loged in in SSH it showing: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1134077045.176533+00632c22397f1e7b8c7b1fc80c3166dcdb1227b3.pck' snipped two more similar tracebacks It is unlikely that this is related to your problem below. This is saying a queue entry for a Mailman generated message (not a list post, but something like an owner notification or some other message created by Mailman) was processed and is now being removed from the queue, but it was already removed. Are multiple sets of Qrunners running? See below for more. i have a server running mailman, one of our clients were having problems, every week his mailing list were going down, we checked everything and we have found nothing, the rest of the accounts mailing lists wrer running without problem. So we decided move him to another server, note this server never had any mailman problem, now after a week we moved him his mailing list gone down again, could any corruption in his mailing list cause this? I havent found any error that show me what is the exact problem in the logs. Anyone had this problem before? any solution? What do you mean by going down? What are the specific symptoms? What do you do to bring it back up? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Help
Pati Moss wrote: I have mailman version 2.1.5-33 installed on a RedHat Linux ES4.0 server. I now need to migrate my lists and archives from an NT4 server running L-Soft Listserv 1.8e over to my mailman installation. I have been searching the site and archives but am not finding documentation that can assist me. Can some help me to obtain the documentation for this migration? Thanks much. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2005-November/018297.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
Caylan Van Larson wrote: Here are the changes we made. mm_cfg.py SMTP_MAX_RCPT = 2000 SMTPPORT=10027 main.cf smtpd_recipient_limit = 1000 default_process_limit = 150 I'm not certain about this, but this looks wrong to me. You're telling Mailman to send to 2000 recipients in one transaction, and it appears you're telling the MTA to only accept up to 1000. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
John Dennis wrote: If your MTA can only handle one, or a small number of client connections then each connection will be busy handling SMTP_MAX_RCPTS and other client connections will queue up. If you have 4,000 recipients then you have the potential to tie up 8 SMTP client connections. I don't think this is correct. Unless there are multiple outgoing runners processing slices, I don't see how SMTP delivery is multi-threaded, and even if there are multiple runners, a single message to even 4000 recipients is going to be processed in its entirety by one runner. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] High usage -- making Mailman nice
On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Caylan Van Larson wrote: Here are the changes we made. mm_cfg.py SMTP_MAX_RCPT = 2000 SMTPPORT=10027 main.cf smtpd_recipient_limit = 1000 default_process_limit = 150 I'm not certain about this, but this looks wrong to me. You're telling Mailman to send to 2000 recipients in one transaction, and it appears you're telling the MTA to only accept up to 1000. You're right, there was a typo in the email. The configs for both say 2000. :-) Caylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop sendmail from spewing messages one itstarts?
Paul Williams wrote: 1). A user added a large number of subscribers by uploading an Excel spreadsheet. Mailman accepted the file and addresses appeared reasonable when viewed with IE but not so good with mozilla (each alpha char was followed by a box). I was able to remove the names using the remove_members command by removing all members. It seems that it might be a good check when importing a list of users, for mailman to make sure it is a text file so users don't mess things up inadvertantly. What Mailman version is this? Current Mailman (2.1.6) is pretty good about weeding out addresses with non-printable ascii characters. In particular, it won't accept whatever characters were displaying as a 'box'. 2). The second problem that developed is that the user has set notification on subscribing to yes and so she and her boss bere getting several thousand emails. I finally had to completely delete the list. Is there a better way to tell mailman to stop sending email from a specific list? If that is possible, I have not bumped into an explanation how mailman works so I would be able to stop it sending emails. Mass subscribe allows subscribing with or without notifications regardless of list settings. The notifications are created and placed in Mailman's virgin queue (qfiles/virgin/) and then processed by VirginRunner and placed in the out queue (qfiles/out). They are then picked up by OutgoingRunner and delivered to the outgoing MTA. You can stop Mailman (bin/mailmanctl stop) and then simply delete files from the queues. You can use bin/show_qfiles to examine qfiles if you are in doubt about what to delete. Of course, none of this deals with messages that have already been delivered to the MTA and are queued there. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to create new mail list from browser.
Elvis Fernandes wrote: I get the following msg on the web browser: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists. I am able to create this new mail list using the command line newlist Could someone tell me what is going on? Anyone who can run the newlist command as the mailman user (or root) can use it to create a list, and can do pretty much anything else to mailman, but this is a pretty tight restriction, at least on most machines. Not so for web access, thus the list create page requires a password - List creator's (authentication) password: (the last entry on the form). Are you providing either the site password or the special list creator password (both generated by bin/mmsitepass) in this entry? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
On Jul 27, 2005, at 5:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Sintz, James wrote:
I understand the purpose of the confirmation, I just want the
ability to turn it off. It is okay if users get unsubscribed from
my list because of a spooked request.
If you really want to do it, I think the attached patch will allow it.
Warning - this is untested, use at your own risk.
e-mail_unsub_wo_confirm.patch.txt
--
Greetings All,
Like the OP, I was searching for an unsubscribe without
confirmation solution for a single list (out of a dozen or so), when
I ran across Mark's patch from July of this year. I'm still low on
mailman's learning curve and python isn't my strong point. So I have
a quick question.
The environment is Mac OS X 10.4.3 client, Postfix 2.2.5, Mailman 2.1.6
If I interpreted the patch and cmd_unsubscribe.py correctly, this
patch affects the entire Mailman installation, correct?
Since most of the other lists are used for press releases for our
clients, I could live with this feature. I have bounce processing
set to 1.0 to disable subscriptions quickly for bad addresses.
In short, just a newbie, asking if there is water below before
jumping off the cliff. grin
Jeff Stubbs
IT Support
Altman-Hall Advertising
235 West Seventh Street
Erie, PA 16501
PH - 814.454.0158
FX - 814.454.3266
--- Mailman-2.1.6/Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py 2002-11-20 21:37:50
+++ mailman-mas/Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py 2005-07-27 13:36:35
@@ -69,19 +69,8 @@
res.results.append(_(\
Your unsubscription request has been forwarded to the list administrator for
approval.))
-elif password is None:
-# No password was given, so we need to do a mailback confirmation
-# instead of unsubscribing them here.
-cpaddr = mlist.getMemberCPAddress(address)
-mlist.ConfirmUnsubscription(cpaddr)
-# We don't also need to send a confirmation to this command
-res.respond = 0
else:
-# No admin approval is necessary, so we can just delete them if the
-# passwords match.
-oldpw = mlist.getMemberPassword(address)
-if oldpw password:
-res.results.append(_('You gave the wrong password'))
-return STOP
+# No admin approval is necessary, so we can just delete them
+# Don't worry about the password
mlist.ApprovedDeleteMember(address, 'mailcmd')
res.results.append(_('Unsubscription request succeeded.'))
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to create new mail list from browser.
Hi Mark, Thanks for responding. I changed the site passwd using bin/mmsitepass. And now when I try creating a new mail list thru the browser, it comes back with: Error: Illegal list name. Are these problems/errors documented somewhere? Is there something that I am missing? Regards Elvis On 12/8/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elvis Fernandes wrote: I get the following msg on the web browser: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists. I am able to create this new mail list using the command line newlist Could someone tell me what is going on? Anyone who can run the newlist command as the mailman user (or root) can use it to create a list, and can do pretty much anything else to mailman, but this is a pretty tight restriction, at least on most machines. Not so for web access, thus the list create page requires a password - List creator's (authentication) password: (the last entry on the form). Are you providing either the site password or the special list creator password (both generated by bin/mmsitepass) in this entry? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop sendmail from spewing messages one itstarts?
On 12/8/05 6:12 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Williams wrote: 1). A user added a large number of subscribers by uploading an Excel spreadsheet. Mailman accepted the file and addresses appeared reasonable when viewed with IE but not so good with mozilla (each alpha char was followed by a box). I was able to remove the names using the remove_members command by removing all members. It seems that it might be a good check when importing a list of users, for mailman to make sure it is a text file so users don't mess things up inadvertantly. What Mailman version is this? Current Mailman (2.1.6) is pretty good about weeding out addresses with non-printable ascii characters. In particular, it won't accept whatever characters were displaying as a 'box'. Is Excel perhaps producing UTF-16? 2). The second problem that developed is that the user has set notification on subscribing to yes and so she and her boss bere getting several thousand emails. I finally had to completely delete the list. Is there a better way to tell mailman to stop sending email from a specific list? If that is possible, I have not bumped into an explanation how mailman works so I would be able to stop it sending emails. Mass subscribe allows subscribing with or without notifications regardless of list settings. This is very much repairing the barn door after the horse is stolen, but for such mass subscribes from previously-untested data, sending through a sample of 10 or so addresses first isn't a bad idea. --John (cheering from the sidelines) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
Jeff Stubbs wrote: Like the OP, I was searching for an unsubscribe without confirmation solution for a single list (out of a dozen or so), when I ran across Mark's patch from July of this year. I'm still low on mailman's learning curve and python isn't my strong point. So I have a quick question. The environment is Mac OS X 10.4.3 client, Postfix 2.2.5, Mailman 2.1.6 If I interpreted the patch and cmd_unsubscribe.py correctly, this patch affects the entire Mailman installation, correct? Correct. It only affects unsubscribe by email, but it affects email unsubscribes for the entire installation. It would be pretty easy to modify the patch to test some list attribute (a locally defined one set by withlist) to determine whether or not to skip the things that the patch deletes. Also, one could instead patch the ConfirmUnsubscription method in Mailman/MailList.py if one wanted to skip confirmations of unsubscribes from all sources (conditionally by list or not). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman complie errors again
I am compiling mailman-2.1.5 on Solaris10 (SPARC) with gcc 3.3.2 When I do make install, I get the following fatal error: /usr/include/sys/siginfo.h:432: error: parse error before k_siginfo_t /usr/include/sys/siginfo.h:437: error: parse error before '}' token In file included from /usr/include/sys/procset.h:24, from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:25, from /usr/include/stdlib.h:22, from /usr/local/include/python2.4/Python.h:39, from src/_japanese_codecs.c:12: /usr/include/sys/signal.h:85: error: parse error before siginfo_t In file included from /usr/include/stdlib.h:22, from /usr/local/include/python2.4/Python.h:39, from src/_japanese_codecs.c:12: /usr/include/sys/wait.h:86: error: parse error before siginfo_t error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /disk1/mailman-2.1.5/misc *** Error code 1 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall' What is causing this fatal error? Any help will be appreciated. Regards Elvis -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
