[Mailman-Users] Namazu and mailman
Does anyone have experience with getting Namazu to work with Mailman? I am running mailman version 2.1.5-33 on a RedHat Linux ES4.0 server. I used this documentation to install and configure Namazu: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037580.html I made an edit to archtocnombox.html rather than archtoc.html. This made the search box appear on my page. However, when I would try to do a search I would get an error because it was not finding/recognizing my rc file. I'm not sure what else to tweak to make this work. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Pati Moss Unix Systems Administrator UNIX is user friendly. It's just picky about who it's friends with. This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests
If the number of messages being held is -1, then there was a bug/problem with upgrade that caused that. You go to handle the messages, you see -1, you try to release -1 messages, after that things are fine. No, the message I get is ipac Administrative Database (newline) There are no pending requests. Click here to reload this page. Are the messages in fact disappearing, and never being mailed to list members? I'm not sure whether the messages are still being held somewhere. Are any messages getting through? Yes, some messages are getting through. Is it possible that your mail aliases are pointing to the old Mailman, which is storing them in the old queue, and the new Mailman isn't seeing them at all? Probably not, since the old Mailman is on a different server. I've also tried bin/check_perms -f and was told there were no problems. What else might be going on? Ben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests
Ben Ostrowsky wrote: No, the message I get is ipac Administrative Database (newline) There are no pending requests. Click here to reload this page. Which says that there are no messages listed in lists/ipac/request.pck. I'm not sure whether the messages are still being held somewhere. If messages are still held, they will be in individual files in data/ with names like heldmsg-ipac-.pck Does the list owner/moderator actually receive notification that the message is being held or that messages are waiting approval? If the only notices are daily 'nn pending requests' messages, are these being mailed from the old installation? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python -S, /usr/share/mailman/cron/gate_news
I have been get an this email message, as a member of the mailman list on my server, every 5 minutes. subject: [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python -S /usr/share/mailman/cron/gate_news body: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: Permission denied I have run check_perms -f, but to no avail. I'm sure there is some kind of permissions issue with the mailman user. I'm using Mac OS X server 10.3.9 and the using the Apple built-in mailman server. Anyone have any ideas? Or is this a problem with the cron daemon? Michael -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python -S, /usr/share/mailman/cron/gate_news
Michael Bonanno wrote: I have been get an this email message, as a member of the mailman list on my server, every 5 minutes. subject: [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python -S /usr/share/mailman/cron/gate_news body: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: Permission denied The standard Mailman crontab runs the command in the subject every 5 minutes to collect messages from usenet groups and post them to mailman lists that have mail-news gateways configured. It appears that the actual command is not being executed for the reason in the message body. If this is the case, it probably will affect all the commands in Mailman's crontab. There are six standard Mailman cron commands - gate_news runs every 5 minutes; checkdbs, senddigests, disabled and nightly_gzip run daily at different times, and mailpasswds runs monthly. Do any of these run successfully? Do any crons for any user run successfully? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests
Looks like my system wasn't as configured as I thought it was. Never mind, I'm sure I'll have other questions later. Ben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Configuring Apache for Mailman - /pipermail/ is redirecting in a way I don't like
I can't see the archives because Apache is redirecting requests for pipermail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] httpd]# telnet lists.tblc.org 80 Trying 64.128.136.9... Connected to lists.tblc.org (64.128.136.9). Escape character is '^]'. HEAD /pipermail/ipac/ HTTP/1.1 Host: lists.tblc.org HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:20:34 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Location: http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Connection closed by foreign host. These Apache directives are in play: In conf/httpd.conf: VirtualHost *:80 ServerName lists.tblc.org DocumentRoot /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ RedirectMatch /index.html http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo TransferLog /var/log/httpd/lists.tblc.org/access_log ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/lists.tblc.org/error_log /VirtualHost In conf.d/mailman.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo Can anyone spot where I'm going wrong? Ben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Date stamp in pipermail is GMT
Hello, I setup mailman-2.1.6 with date stamp patch (date-in-archive-index-1.patch) on Solaris8. Now the date and time show up against every msg in pipermail archives. However, the date and time in pipermail is in GMT. The same mail I receive in my mail reader in PST. Is there some place I can update the pipermail timezone to PST? Elvis -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Next step, Announce Only
Okay, I've fixed the SMTP problems, and my lists are working, yay! But now my boss wants to make two announce-only lists, and we're trying to follow the directions in the FAQ: In Mailman 2.1.x you can customize the welcome message. Create a directory lists/yourlist/en (assuming English :) and copy templates/subscribeack.txt to this directory. Then edit this file for your specific wording. Mailman will use this specialized template for the English welcome messages. We've found where Mac OS X Server keeps these files ... /private/var/mailman/ ... and we see that there is already a lists directory there. So we went into the specific list and created the /en directory, and then /templates in there, and put the subscribeack.txt file into it, all edited as he wants it. But it's still not working. I'm afraid that I'm getting confused with the wording in the FAQ above. The new file is located in /private/var/mailman/lists/listname/en/templates/subscribeack.txt. Is this the proper location? And if so, then is there another step I'm missing to make this work right? Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated by me and my boss! -- Julia Frizzell Systems Administrator/Help Desk Manager The Education Alliance 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300 Providence, Rhode Island 02903-4226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401.274.9548 x311 or 800.521.9550 x311 401.421.7650 (fax) http://www.alliance.brown.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring Apache for Mailman - /pipermail/ isredirecting in a way I don't like
Ben Ostrowsky wrote: I can't see the archives because Apache is redirecting requests for pipermail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] httpd]# telnet lists.tblc.org 80 Trying 64.128.136.9... Connected to lists.tblc.org (64.128.136.9). Escape character is '^]'. HEAD /pipermail/ipac/ HTTP/1.1 Host: lists.tblc.org HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:20:34 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Location: http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Connection closed by foreign host. These Apache directives are in play: In conf/httpd.conf: VirtualHost *:80 ServerName lists.tblc.org DocumentRoot /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ I'm not sure why you want the above. It's not necessary. RedirectMatch /index.html http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo This is the redirect that is messing up your archive access. Possibly anchoring it as in RedirectMatch ^/index.html http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo will do what you want. Normally one has something like RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo which you have in your global configuration and which redirects http://lists.tblc.org/mailman to the listinfo page. If you want to redirect http://lists.tbls.org/ to the listinfo page, you could try RedirectMatch ^[/]+$ http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Date stamp in pipermail is GMT
Elvis Fernandes wrote: I setup mailman-2.1.6 with date stamp patch (date-in-archive-index-1.patch) on Solaris8. Now the date and time show up against every msg in pipermail archives. However, the date and time in pipermail is in GMT. The same mail I receive in my mail reader in PST. Is there some place I can update the pipermail timezone to PST? The patch you installed added the following four lines around line 1035 in Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py. date = float(date) date = time.gmtime(date) date = time.strftime(%b %d %Y - %H:%M:%S,date) date = CGIescape(date, self.lang) If you change date = time.gmtime(date) to date = time.localtime(date) you'll get local time. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Majordomo to mailman list conversion for MM2.1?
Hi Mailman'ers, I'm wondering if anyone has actually come across a conversion program for Majordomo to Mailman for MM2.1? I have been informed by Heikel that his majordomo2mailman.pl upgrade is not happening anytime soon... Thanks all, Charlene Wingert [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Date stamp in pipermail is GMT
Mark, Perfect! Works like a song. Thanks Elvis On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elvis Fernandes wrote: I setup mailman-2.1.6 with date stamp patch ( date-in-archive-index-1.patch) on Solaris8. Now the date and time show up against every msg in pipermail archives. However, the date and time in pipermail is in GMT. The same mail I receive in my mail reader in PST. Is there some place I can update the pipermail timezone to PST? The patch you installed added the following four lines around line 1035 in Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py. date = float(date) date = time.gmtime(date) date = time.strftime(%b %d %Y - %H:%M:%S,date) date = CGIescape(date, self.lang) If you change date = time.gmtime(date) to date = time.localtime(date) you'll get local time. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bounces are going to my old mail server
I've created a mailing list called bentest. My bounce messages are going to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I don't remember telling this new mailman server about a host named snoopy. I did copy the list data over from snoopy (which is our general email server, but not our mailing list server). Several mailing lists' config.* files contain the string 'snoopy', but bentest's config.* files do not, so I think I can rule that out. What's going on here, and how can I fix it? Ben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Next step, Announce Only
Julia Frizzell wrote: But it's still not working. I'm afraid that I'm getting confused with the wording in the FAQ above. The new file is located in /private/var/mailman/lists/listname/en/templates/subscribeack.txt. Is this the proper location? No. The proper location in your case is /private/var/mailman/lists/listname/en/subscribeack.txt Note that in Mailman 2.1.6 and later, you can edit this template via the web admin interface via the 'Edit the public HTML pages and text files' link. Also see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp for more detailed info about where edited templates go. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives. Is this a correct statement? For example, if I am NOT a member of mail-list, I can still go to http://mailman/pipermail/mail-list and browse the archives. Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of mail-list In todays security world there sure must be a way. I would like to know others experiences. Thanks Elvis -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 11:47 -0800, Elvis Fernandes wrote: From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives. Is this a correct statement? For example, if I am NOT a member of mail-list, I can still go to http://mailman/pipermail/mail-list and browse the archives. Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of mail-list In todays security world there sure must be a way. I would like to know others experiences. Some lists are appropriate for public consumption, some are not. That is why mailman supports both public and private archives, it is a per list configuration. However please note, the security protection on the private archives is not terribly strong, it requires only a username/password, something which by default is mailed in the clear once a month. Security in general was not a prime design point for mailman, a limitation which is recognized and hopefully will be better addressed in MM 3.0. If you have very sensitive information in your archives you may want to consider an alternate solution. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces are going to my old mail server
Ben Ostrowsky wrote: I've created a mailing list called bentest. My bounce messages are going to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I don't remember telling this new mailman server about a host named snoopy. I did copy the list data over from snoopy (which is our general email server, but not our mailing list server). Several mailing lists' config.* files contain the string 'snoopy', but bentest's config.* files do not, so I think I can rule that out. What's going on here, and how can I fix it? One of two things. Assuming DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST is not 'snoopy.tblc.org' either the host name part of the web_page_url attribute of the bentest list when looked up in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary (add_virtualhost) returns 'snoopy.tblc.org' or your outgoing MTA is changing the domain for the outside world. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
Making the archives private with a username / passwd access will be okay to start with. Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory I see that the links are removed. and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private That works! Thanks Elvis On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elvis Fernandes wrote: From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives. Is this a correct statement? Only if the archives are public. Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of mail-list Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private. The links on admin and listinfo pages will use the private url, so everything will work except perhaps for old links that people have saved or posted in messages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
Elvis Fernandes wrote: From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives. Is this a correct statement? Only if the archives are public. Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of mail-list Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private. The links on admin and listinfo pages will use the private url, so everything will work except perhaps for old links that people have saved or posted in messages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
I guess I spoke too early! When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list , the screen displays The mail-list Archives. But when I click on [thread] [Subject] [Author] [Date], it comes back with the screen No such list 2005-december Am I missing something? Any info will be appreciated. Thanks Elvis On 12/19/05, Elvis Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Making the archives private with a username / passwd access will be okay to start with. Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory I see that the links are removed. and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private That works! Thanks Elvis On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elvis Fernandes wrote: From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives. Is this a correct statement? Only if the archives are public. Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of mail-list Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private. The links on admin and listinfo pages will use the private url, so everything will work except perhaps for old links that people have saved or posted in messages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces are going to my old mail server
One of two things. Assuming DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST is not 'snoopy.tblc.org' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST was 'mail.tblc.org' but I've changed it to 'lists.tblc.org' and done 'mailman reload'. Still seems to do the same thing. either the host name part of the web_page_url attribute of the bentest list when looked up in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary (add_virtualhost) returns 'snoopy.tblc.org' How could I test for this possibility? or your outgoing MTA is changing the domain for the outside world. Well, if I just email my Gmail account from the command line, it appears to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the Your mail is being held headers have loads of domains: lists.tblc.org, www2.tblc.org, snoopy.tblc.org, mail.tblc.org... Here are the headers: X-Gmail-Received: 4c3136d801db9219ade6e8b8ce914c41308c83c3 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by 10.65.251.18 with SMTP id d18cs78529qbs; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.122.15 with SMTP id u15mr29842wrc; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:47:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from www2.tblc.org (lists.tblc.org [64.128.136.9]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 28si11281093wrl.2005.12.19.11.47.08; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: fail (gmail.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not designate 64.128.136.9 as permitted sender) Received: from lists.tblc.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www2.tblc.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBJJl7a6006599 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:47:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Your message to Bentest awaits moderator approval From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:47:07 -0500 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: bentest.mail.tblc.org X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
Elvis Fernandes wrote: I guess I spoke too early! When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list , the screen displays The mail-list Archives. But when I click on [thread] [Subject] [Author] [Date], it comes back with the screen No such list 2005-december Try going to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list/ If the URL doesn't end in a slash, the browser will think the relative link in the archives is relative to the previous slash. Where did the http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list URL come from? Was this a link on a Mailman page or did you just type it? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces are going to my old mail server
The domain in the -bounces and other addresses comes directly from the list's host_name attribute which is visible on the list's General Options page OK, I found that; is there an easy way to change that to lists.tblc.org for all existing lists? Ben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces are going to my old mail server
OK, I found that; is there an easy way to change that to lists.tblc.org for all existing lists? Hey, dummy, (he said to himself), this one's in the FAQ! http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#4.38 Ben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces are going to my old mail server
Ben Ostrowsky wrote: The domain in the -bounces and other addresses comes directly from the list's host_name attribute which is visible on the list's General Options page OK, I found that; is there an easy way to change that to lists.tblc.org for all existing lists? Run bin/fix_url.py for instructions on how to actually run it under bin/withlist. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question
Okay, going to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list/ does work. Where did the http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list URL come from? Was this a link on a Mailman page or did you just type it? I typed it. When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private the screen tells me You must specify a list. So I specified mail-list. Now I know that the trailing / needs to be there. Thanks! Elvis On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elvis Fernandes wrote: I guess I spoke too early! When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list , the screen displays The mail-list Archives. But when I click on [thread] [Subject] [Author] [Date], it comes back with the screen No such list 2005-december Try going to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list/ If the URL doesn't end in a slash, the browser will think the relative link in the archives is relative to the previous slash. Where did the http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list URL come from? Was this a link on a Mailman page or did you just type it? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bounce disable messages even when getting mail
I keep getting messages that my account has been disabled due to excessive bounces even though I am getting the email. I am both a user on the list and the administrator. Mailman is running on a Mac OS X Server 10.3.9 Mailman version 2.1.4. I will go in and re-enable delivery and set it globally and then six days later I get the disable message again. As far as I can tell, I am getting all messages until the account is disabled. Anybody have any ideas on what might be causing this? Thanks - Dave Bevis -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Released: Mailman 2.1.7b1
Hi all, I've just released Mailman 2.1.7b1 for beta test and i18n translations. I'm tempted to jump into RC because the 2.1-maint branch is so stable and 2.1.7 is mainly for bug fixes, but we need more translations before the final release. Please download it from SF or: http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.7b1.tgz Cheers, Tokio --- Here is a history of user visible changes to Mailman. 2.1.7b1 (20-Dec-2005) Security - The fix for CAN-2005-0202 has been enhanced to issue an appropriate message instead of just quietly dropping ./ and ../ from URLs. - A note on CVE-2005-3573: Although the RFC2231 bug example in the CVE has been solved in mailman-2.1.6, there may be more cases where ToDigest.send_digests() can block regular delivery. We put the send_digests() calling part in try - except clause and leave a message in the error log if something happened in send_digests(). Daily call of cron/senddigests will notify more detail to the site administrator. - List administrators can no longer change the user's option/subscription globally. Site admin can change these only if mm_cfg.ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES is set to Yes. - Script tag is disallowd in edithtml script. - Since probe message for the disabled users may reach unexpected persons, the password was excluded from sendProbe() and probe.txt. Note that the default value of VERP_PROBE has been set to `No' from 2.1.6., thus this change doesn't change the default behavior. New Features - Always remove DomainKey (and similar) headers (1287546) from messages sent to the list. - List owners can customize content filter behavior as not to collapse multipart/alternative to its first content. This allows HTML part to pass through after other content filtering is done. Internationalization - New language: Interlingua. Bug fixes and other patches - Fix Scrubber.py mungs quoted-printable bug with introducing 'X-Mailman-Scrubbed' header for marking that the payload is scrubber-munged. The flag is referenced in ToDigest.py, ToArchive.py, Decorate.py and Archiver. Similar problem in ToDigest.py where the plain digest is generated is also fixed. - Fix Syslog.py to write quopri encoded message when it fail to write 8-bit characters. - Fix MTA/Postfix.py to check aliases group permission in check_perms and fix mailman-install document on this matter (1378270). - Fix private.py to go to the original URL after authorization (1080943). - Fix bounce log score messages to be more consistent. - Fix bin/remove_members to accept no arguments when both --fromall and --file= options are specified. - Change cgi-bin and mail wrapper group not found error message to be more descriptive of the actual problem. - Apply the list's ban_list to address changes and admin mass subscribe and invite and to confirmations/approvals of address changes, subscriptions and invitations. - Decode quoted-printable and base64 encoded parts before passing to HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND (1367783). - Remove Approve: header from post - treat as Approved: (1355707). - Stop removing line following Approve(d): line in body of post (1318883). - Log post in post log with true sender, not listname-bounces (1287921). - Correctly initialize and remember the list's default_member_moderation attribute in the web list creation page (1263213). - Add PEP263 charset in config_list output (1343100). - header_filter_rules get lost if accessed directly and needed authenti- cation by login page (1230865). - Obscure email when the poster doesn't set full name in 'From:' header. - Take preambles and epilogues into account when calculating message sizes for holding purposes (Mark Sapiro). - Logging/Logger.py unicode transform option (1235567). - bin/update crashes with bogus files (949117). - Bugs and patches: 1212066/1301983 (Date header in create/remove notice) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce disable messages even when getting mail
Dave B wrote: I keep getting messages that my account has been disabled due to excessive bounces even though I am getting the email. I am both a user on the list and the administrator. Mailman is running on a Mac OS X Server 10.3.9 Mailman version 2.1.4. I will go in and re-enable delivery and set it globally and then six days later I get the disable message again. As far as I can tell, I am getting all messages until the account is disabled. Anybody have any ideas on what might be causing this? Have you looked in the bounce log to see if bounces are being recorded for your address? Do you have the list's bounce_notify_owner_on_disable set to yes, and if so does the owner receive a disable notification with a copy of the triggering bounce? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please
I might need to do several instances of mailman before the new year, sailed right through my first install, but got stuck on the second one. I'm seeking advice on how to build this. Apparently I will need a distinct instance for each virtual host of the $prefix heirarchy. I'm wondering though if I can have only a single copy of the installation directory which is created from unpacking the tar ball. Also, I'm creating a unique vhost specific user for each instance of mailman. Is this overkill? Can a single mailman user support multiple vhosts? At any rate, to the error at hand: At: http://mumble.example.ca/mailman/listinfo Browser reports error as: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /mailman/listinfo on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. /var/log/apache/mumble-error.log says: [Mon Dec 19 22:43:27 2005] [error] [client nn.nnn.nn.nnn] (13)Permission denied: access to /mailman/listinfo denied permissions on directory and file are: drwxrwsr-x 2 mumble mumble 320 Dec 19 18:38 cgi-bin -rwxr-sr-x 1 mumble mumble 36637 Dec 19 18:38 cgi-bin/listinfo apache configuration (which works based on function of other aliases) includes: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /u/m/mumble/mailman/cgi-bin/ OK. I'm stumped. I would think that perhaps adding the apache user to the mumble group might do it, but /etc/group shows that the instance of mailman I put up two days ago (another virtual host on the same gentoo server), which works, did not require that intervention. And I see that the permissions are 02755 on the script, so apache ought to be able to execute the script regardless. Any ideas how to make this error go away and for this installation to work? All help is appreciated. Thanks. -- Hugh -- RCK Computer Services http://reclaimedcomputers.ca/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
