[Mailman-Users] Confirmation problems

2006-01-25 Thread Niemi Hannu
Hello all

I made a new list and it seems to work OK, except that all the
confirmation strings are invalid.

Even if I answer at once, it says it's bad confirmation string and only
suggests it has been expired. I have also checked that the time is all
right on both ends. Any hints?

I also added another virtual host to mailman, and this list uses it,
could this cause this somehow?

Best regards

Hannu
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread dan
I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list manager for 
my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the sending of the email 
to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the impact on the server. I 
already have Mailman installed, and the entire list currently sits there. Is 
there any way to do this with Mailman? 

I hope someone can help!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about List Info Page HTML

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Franklin wrote:

Is there a full list of the custom MM- tags which can be used  
in list info page HTML? I've been looking around, and I can't find  
one anywhere.


They're not exactly documented, but see Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py and
the various Cgi scripts, in this case Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation problems

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Niemi Hannu wrote:

I made a new list and it seems to work OK, except that all the
confirmation strings are invalid.

Even if I answer at once, it says it's bad confirmation string and only
suggests it has been expired. I have also checked that the time is all
right on both ends. Any hints?


Have you overridden PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE in mm_cfg.py?

How are you confirming? Web or email? Does it fail both ways? What do
the actual confirm strings look like?

I also added another virtual host to mailman, and this list uses it,
could this cause this somehow?

Is it only this list that fails? It is not likely a virtual host
problem as host really isn't involved in processing confirmations.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 1/25/06 7:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list manager
 for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the sending of the
 email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the impact on the
 server. I already have Mailman installed, and the entire list currently sits
 there. Is there any way to do this with Mailman?

If you expect more than four messages per week to be sent to the list, then
you can't do this with any mailing list manager.  (If I can still do
arithmetic, it would take about 44 hours to send 14,000 messages at 300 per
hour.)

I think you need a different hosting company.

Aside from that little detail, this general question has come up several
times recently, and as far as I know the answer remains no.

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Daniel/The Fold wrote:

I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list manager 
for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the sending of the 
email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the impact on the 
server. I already have Mailman installed, and the entire list currently sits 
there. Is there any way to do this with Mailman? 

The short answer is no. You can set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 300 in mm_cfg.py
(default is 500) and modify the code in SMTPDirect.py to put in a
timer and not send more that one chunk an hour, but I would definitely
not recommend that as it would have all kinds of unintended
consequences.

Have you considered that at 300 per hour, it takes 2 days to deliver
14,000+ messages. If there are posts more often than 1 every 2 to 3
days, you'll get hopelessly backlogged.

Where is this list hosted? Is it on your server or at the hosting
company. If it's your box and you have your own outgoing MTA, this
shouldn't be an issue for the hosting company other than the bandwidth
on your connection if they provide that.

If the list (Mailman) is hosted at the hosting company, isn't this
their problem? Of course perhaps they are solving that by telling you
you can't do that, in which case, it may be time to find a new host.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 1/25/06 7:40 AM, John W. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/25/06 7:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list manager
 for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the sending of the
 email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the impact on the
 server. I already have Mailman installed, and the entire list currently sits
 there. Is there any way to do this with Mailman?
 
 If you expect more than four messages per week to be sent to the list, then
 you can't do this with any mailing list manager.  (If I can still do
 arithmetic, it would take about 44 hours to send 14,000 messages at 300 per
 hour.)
 
 I think you need a different hosting company.
 
 Aside from that little detail, this general question has come up several
 times recently, and as far as I know the answer remains no.
 

Oops.  That was a little too strong, if the hosting company means 300
messages, not 300 recipients.  You would need to NOT turn on
personalization, or VERP, and you would probably need to turn off the
monthly password reminders.

Given that, you would still run into the answer that no, Mailman doesn't
throttle.  But some other list management software might work.  Go to the
Mailman FAQ (link in the footer to this message) and search for
   throttle
for more information.

Rather than a whole new hosting company, you may want to look for a separate
host for your list, one that specializes in lists.  You would then need list
mailing addresses like list.example.com rather than example.com, so the
world can direct the mail properly, and the same for the web interface.
Such a hosting company might prefer software other than Mailman, or might
prefer Mailman.

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Daniel/The Fold wrote:
 
 I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list 
 manager for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the 
 sending of the email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the 

 Where is this list hosted? Is it on your server or at the hosting
 company. If it's your box and you have your own outgoing MTA, this
 shouldn't be an issue for the hosting company other than the bandwidth
 on your connection if they provide that.

Dan, do you know how long it is taking  to send to this list now ? Might it 
make a difference if you did this at night / off-hours ?

Mark  John are right about the time, unless this is a once a week type of 
thing sending at that rate is going to get backlogged.

If this is the site for the band that on the domain you mailed from I'm 
guessing they/you are on a budget. If you get to the looking for a new host 
stage contact me off list, I'll see what I can do.


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[Mailman-Users] Questions Regarding Command Line Commands

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Phillips
Please excuse this (potential) double post. My ISP is
blocked from posting to this list, so I am trying
again from a yahoo account. Sometimes I can get
through from my ISP, other times not. So I am trying
again! :(

I have a mysql database with names and email addresses
for our little league. 
I wrote a python scrip to pull the names and email
addresses from our 
database and put them into groups for each team in
each division. I want to 
bulk load these email addresses into mailman and
create mailing lists for 
each team in each division. I know I can do this from
the web interface, but 
I would rather do it from my python script (we have
over 90 teams!). 

I have seen the documentation on what the command line
commands are, but I am not sure how to issue those
commands from a python script.

Thank for any help you can provide!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread dan
That was a little too strong, if the hosting company means 300
 messages, not 300 recipients.  You would need to NOT turn on
 personalization, or VERP, and you would probably need to turn off the
 monthly password reminders. 

Sorry about that, I should clarify that I definitely meant 300 recipients, 
not messages. I only plan on sending 3-4 messages a month with this list.

- Original Message - 
From: John W. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailman Users mailman-users@python.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?


 On 1/25/06 7:40 AM, John W. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/25/06 7:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list 
 manager
 for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the sending of 
 the
 email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the impact on the
 server. I already have Mailman installed, and the entire list currently 
 sits
 there. Is there any way to do this with Mailman?

 If you expect more than four messages per week to be sent to the list, 
 then
 you can't do this with any mailing list manager.  (If I can still do
 arithmetic, it would take about 44 hours to send 14,000 messages at 300 
 per
 hour.)

 I think you need a different hosting company.

 Aside from that little detail, this general question has come up several
 times recently, and as far as I know the answer remains no.


 Oops.  That was a little too strong, if the hosting company means 300
 messages, not 300 recipients.  You would need to NOT turn on
 personalization, or VERP, and you would probably need to turn off the
 monthly password reminders.

 Given that, you would still run into the answer that no, Mailman doesn't
 throttle.  But some other list management software might work.  Go to the
 Mailman FAQ (link in the footer to this message) and search for
   throttle
 for more information.

 Rather than a whole new hosting company, you may want to look for a 
 separate
 host for your list, one that specializes in lists.  You would then need 
 list
 mailing addresses like list.example.com rather than example.com, so the
 world can direct the mail properly, and the same for the web interface.
 Such a hosting company might prefer software other than Mailman, or might
 prefer Mailman.

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread dan
 On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Dan, do you know how long it is taking  to send to this list now ? Might 
 it
 make a difference if you did this at night / off-hours ?

Yes it is for thefoldmusic.com. To my knowledge, most recipients NEVER even 
receive the e-mails I send out. Only a few of the early letter of the 
alphabet receive them. I've tried sending on off hours, that worked better 
with my old server (pair.com), but for budget purposes I have switched to 
bluehost.com which is where the mailman list currently resides.

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher X. Candreva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailman-users@python.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?


 On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Daniel/The Fold wrote:

 I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list
 manager for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the
 sending of the email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the

 Where is this list hosted? Is it on your server or at the hosting
 company. If it's your box and you have your own outgoing MTA, this
 shouldn't be an issue for the hosting company other than the bandwidth
 on your connection if they provide that.

 Dan, do you know how long it is taking  to send to this list now ? Might 
 it
 make a difference if you did this at night / off-hours ?

 Mark  John are right about the time, unless this is a once a week type of
 thing sending at that rate is going to get backlogged.

 If this is the site for the band that on the domain you mailed from I'm
 guessing they/you are on a budget. If you get to the looking for a new 
 host
 stage contact me off list, I'll see what I can do.


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[Mailman-Users] move from version 2.0.11 to 2.1.5

2006-01-25 Thread Chad Rebuck
I've installed a new server running Fedora 4.  I can create a new list, but 
I have not determined why mailman is not seeing the users from my 2.0.11 
list.  I copied the lists/ and archives/ dir from the old server to the new 
one.  I have read through the INSTALL and UPGRADE docs following all the 
steps -- I think.

If more details are needed please let me know.

Thanks, Chad 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] move from version 2.0.11 to 2.1.5

2006-01-25 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 12:32 -0500, Chad Rebuck wrote:
 I've installed a new server running Fedora 4.  I can create a new list, but 
 I have not determined why mailman is not seeing the users from my 2.0.11 
 list.  I copied the lists/ and archives/ dir from the old server to the new 
 one.  I have read through the INSTALL and UPGRADE docs following all the 
 steps -- I think.
 
 If more details are needed please let me know.

How did you install mailman? Was it from scratch or did you use our RPM?
If you used the RPM then you should look
at /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT for documentation on the
directory structure, you may not have copied the old list data into the
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Re: [Mailman-Users] move from version 2.0.11 to 2.1.5

2006-01-25 Thread Chad Rebuck
Thanks John

Mailman was installed via RPM.  I actually did have the lists/ and
archives/ in the incorrect folder but I have copied them over to
/var/lib/mailman now.

I ran thse commands after moving the files.  However, I still don't
see any members listed.  Certainly I am missing something else or
using these commands incorrectly.

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/update -f
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url a2-16v-list

Here is the output

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/withlist -l -r fix_url a2-16v-list
Importing fix_url...
Running fix_url.fix_url()...
Loading list a2-16v-list (locked)
Saving list
Finalizing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/list_members a2-16v-list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# pwd
/usr/lib/mailman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/update
No updates are necessary.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/update  -f
Upgrading from version 0x20105f0 to 0x20105f0
getting rid of old source files
Updating mailing list: a2-16v-list
Updating the held requests database.
- updating old private mbox file
looks like you have a really recent CVS installation...
you're either one brave soul, or you already ran me
- updating old public mbox file
Fixing language templates: a2-16v-list

Updating mailing list: mailman
Updating the held requests database.
- updating old private mbox file
looks like you have a really recent CVS installation...
you're either one brave soul, or you already ran me
- updating old public mbox file
looks like you have a really recent CVS installation...
you're either one brave soul, or you already ran me
Fixing language templates: mailman

Updating Usenet watermarks
- nothing to update here
Nothing to do.
updating old qfiles

On 1/25/06, John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 12:32 -0500, Chad Rebuck wrote:
  I've installed a new server running Fedora 4.  I can create a new list, but
  I have not determined why mailman is not seeing the users from my 2.0.11
  list.  I copied the lists/ and archives/ dir from the old server to the new
  one.  I have read through the INSTALL and UPGRADE docs following all the
  steps -- I think.
 
  If more details are needed please let me know.

 How did you install mailman? Was it from scratch or did you use our RPM?
 If you used the RPM then you should look
 at /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT for documentation on the
 directory structure, you may not have copied the old list data into the
 locations currently used.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread JC Dill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Dan, do you know how long it is taking  to send to this list now ? Might 
 it
 make a difference if you did this at night / off-hours ?
 
 Yes it is for thefoldmusic.com. To my knowledge, most recipients NEVER even 
 receive the e-mails I send out. Only a few of the early letter of the 
 alphabet receive them. I've tried sending on off hours, that worked better 
 with my old server (pair.com), but for budget purposes I have switched to 
 bluehost.com which is where the mailman list currently resides.

Good; fast; cheap:  Pick any two.  You can't have all 3.

You left pair.com (good, fast, fairly cheap but not dirt cheap) because 
you wanted an even cheaper hosting solution.  Well, now you know what 
happens when you go with a cheaper host - they aren't any good (most of 
your messages never get delivered) and they certainly aren't fast 
(limiting you to 300 messages per hour!).  The only real solution is to 
find a better host.  I strongly suggest you take Chris up on the offer 
for a better host solution.

jc

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Re: [Mailman-Users] pgp key E099F769?

2006-01-25 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
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 Hi,
 
 2.1.7 is signed by key-id E099F769, but i can't find that key anywhere!
 
 can someone put it on the public keyservers pls?
 

Sorry for the inconvenience.  Now it can be found at:
http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/search?q=0xE099F769

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman, Postfix and MySQL-based virtual domains

2006-01-25 Thread Werner Schalk
Hi,

first of all I have to say that I am a complete novice to both Mailman and 
Postfix. However my MySQL-based Postfix setup works just fine (on Gentoo) but 
I have a problem with getting Mailman to work. Beside virtual domains and 
users that work just fine, I created some mailing lists. But when I try to 
send a mail to one of them I get the following error message in my log file:

NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[62.8.A.B]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table; 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP 
helo=mysystem.network.localnet
Jan 25 22:52:54 myserver postfix/smtpd[6906]:  unknown[62.8.A.B]: 550 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual 
mailbox table

My Postfix config file is as follows (digest):

owner_request_special = no
recipient_delimiter = +

virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, 
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
virtual_gid_maps = static:211
virtual_mailbox_base = /home/virtmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_transport = virtual
virtual_uid_maps = static:211

So according to http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html and 
what I have found on the web, Postfix should consult 
both /etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf 
and /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman in order to handle the mail (the 
*.db file does exist in /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db). 

However as one can see above, Postfix is unable to find the user in the 
virtual mailbox table. Does somebody have a similar setup and is able to give 
me some information or hints on how to solve this problem? I searched the web 
already but I didn't find anything useful so far. Any ideas?

Thanks a lot.

Best regards,
Werner.

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[Mailman-Users] denying mbox AND txt archives

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi,

Is there a way to privatize archive txt files?  I know that 
PUBLIC_MBOX prevents the mbox URL from appearing in thread.html, 
date.html, etc., and I can also block *.mbox at the server.  HOWEVER, 
blocking *.txt at the server isn't an option for me.  Is there a way to 
have the archiver chmod archive .txt and .mbox files?

Tia,

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[Mailman-Users] i18n Question

2006-01-25 Thread Bryan Carbonnell
I have created a patch for MM 2.1.7 that will allow MM to have your
main site's headers/footers so that everything across the site has a
consistant look. This is an extension of #1160353
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1160353group_id=103atid=300103

You can see the patch in use at http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo

I will be posting to sourceforge soon, but I'd like to know what it
would take to make sure that it works for the languages that come
preinstalled with MM. I've modified a lot of the hard coded text in
the py files and most of the html files in the templates/en directory.

What files, besides the html files in the templates/lang/ directories
will I need to modify? Just the .po file and follow the instructions
in the README-I18.en file in the source root?

Would this question be more appropriate on the 18n or developers list?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] denying mbox AND txt archives

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
OK, I solved my own problem with

this bit of Apache config:
 RedirectMatch permanent /mailman/private/.*/.*\.txt /mailman/
 RedirectMatch permanent /mailman/private/.*/.*\.mbox /mailman/
 RedirectMatch permanent /archives/.*/.*\.txt /archives/
 RedirectMatch permanent /archives/.*/.*\.mbox /archives/

this change to HyperArch.py:

*** Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py   Wed Jan 25 18:04:16 2006
--- Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py.orig  Wed Jan 25 18:04:13 2006
***
*** 817,824 
  else:
  # there's no archive file at all... hmmm.
  textlink = ''
-
- textlink = ''
  return quick_maketext(
  'archtocentry.html',
  {'archive': arch,
--- 817,822 

and minor changes to template/*/archliststart.html to remove language 
specific references to Downloadable version.

I honestly think that Mailman should support properly chmod'ing 
private/*/*.mbox and private/*/*.txt files when the site sets 
PUBLIC_MBOX to No.

BTW, this was for MM 2.1.7

-Jim P.

Jim Popovitch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to privatize archive txt files?  I know that 
 PUBLIC_MBOX prevents the mbox URL from appearing in thread.html, 
 date.html, etc., and I can also block *.mbox at the server.  HOWEVER, 
 blocking *.txt at the server isn't an option for me.  Is there a way to 
 have the archiver chmod archive .txt and .mbox files?
 
 Tia,
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions Regarding Command Line Commands

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Phillips wrote:

I have seen the documentation on what the command line
commands are, but I am not sure how to issue those
commands from a python script.


See http://docs.python.org/lib/os-process.html

Briefly, once you have the list name, owner email and list password in
appropriate variables, and the members in a file, you can do something
like

import os
stat = os.spawnl(os.P_WAIT, 'path/to/bin/newlist', 'newlist', '-q',
 list_name, owner_email, list_password)
if stat:
print 'newlist command failed - %d' % stat
...
stat = os.spawnl(os.P_WAIT, 'path/to/bin/add_members', 'add_members',
 '-r members file', '-w y', ...)
...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] move from version 2.0.11 to 2.1.5

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chad Rebuck wrote:

Mailman was installed via RPM.  I actually did have the lists/ and
archives/ in the incorrect folder but I have copied them over to
/var/lib/mailman now.


I'm guessing that you created the lists on the new installation before
you finally got the old lists/ directories in the right place. Thus,
you now have new config.pck and config.pck.last files with no members
and old config.db and config.db.last files with members that aren't
being used because of the presence of the config.pck.

If this is the case, just delete the config.pck and config.pck.last.
You can then run bin/update [-f], but you shouldn't have to as Mailman
will update/convert the config.db when the list is accessed. After you
have the converted config.pck, you can delete the config.db and
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman, Postfix and MySQL-based virtual domains

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Werner Schalk wrote:

I created some mailing lists. But when I try to 
send a mail to one of them I get the following error message in my log file:

NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[62.8.A.B]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table; 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP 
helo=mysystem.network.localnet
Jan 25 22:52:54 myserver postfix/smtpd[6906]:  unknown[62.8.A.B]: 550 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual 
mailbox table

My Postfix config file is as follows (digest):

owner_request_special = no
recipient_delimiter = +

virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, 
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
virtual_gid_maps = static:211
virtual_mailbox_base = /home/virtmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_transport = virtual
virtual_uid_maps = static:211

So according to http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html and 
what I have found on the web, Postfix should consult 
both /etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf 
and /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman in order to handle the mail (the 
*.db file does exist in /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db). 


I am not a Postfix user and I know little about it, but I think in
addition to the virtual_alias_maps above, you also need alias_maps
with at least hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases. See
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node13.html. (Sec 6.1.2 is in
addition to 6.1.1, not instead of)

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[Mailman-Users] Extracting membership list

2006-01-25 Thread Fernando Sabio
I moved a few lists as part of a larger site-move and the lists aren't being
recognized as valid recipients when list members email the lists (ie: an
email to either list, ie: all@domain, get's returned with either a 503
or 550 error.)
Yet the lists can be administered, show a membership list, etc, so
otherwise, they look normal.

I have 2 lists, one simple and one not so simple.

After a lot of emails to cPanel (how I transferred sites), they've yet to be
able to fix, so I deleted the smaller/simple list and recreated it just as I
had it before, and now the all@domain functionality works as expected.

I'd like to do this with the 2nd list but the membership list spans many,
many pages.  (so a copy/paste via browser to notepad isn't efficient)

I have root on this box, and the config.pck file is available to me here:

/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/listname/*

But the config.pck file isn't useful to me in a text editor when all I want
are the email addresses of existing members.

How does one extract the member data from a list like this if I'm the
rightful admin?

Thanks,

Fernando

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[Mailman-Users] Backing up E-mail addresses in Mailman v 2.1.6

2006-01-25 Thread dan
Is there an easy way to get all of your e-mail addresses out of Mailman version 
2.1.6? Maybe a backup or export function? I know this sounds SO novice, but 
that's what I am, and the FAQ said nothing about it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extracting membership list

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fernando Sabio wrote:

I have root on this box, and the config.pck file is available to me here:

/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/listname/*

But the config.pck file isn't useful to me in a text editor when all I want
are the email addresses of existing members.

How does one extract the member data from a list like this if I'm the
rightful admin?

bin/listmembers --help

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing up E-mail addresses in Mailman v 2.1.6

2006-01-25 Thread dan
Ok, I really appreciate the effort, but I don't know what a cronjob is. Can you 
explain what steps I need to take on a PC to get to this point: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.018.htp

I apologize, but I am TRULY just learning about this. A total novice.

~Daniel

On Jan 25, 2006, at 9:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there an easy way to get all of your e-mail addresses out of  
 Mailman version 2.1.6? Maybe a backup or export function? I know  
 this sounds SO novice, but that's what I am, and the FAQ said  
 nothing about it.

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The easy (for me to give) answer for backing up a list is here:  
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.018.htp  
but if you don't have shell access to the server it's a bit more  
difficult.

The options are described in this post from the archives: http:// 
www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg34467.html

Dan



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing up E-mail addresses in Mailman v 2.1.6

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, I really appreciate the effort, but I don't know what a cronjob is. Can 
you explain what steps I need to take on a PC to get to this point: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.018.htp

I apologize, but I am TRULY just learning about this. A total novice.

I suspect that you have neither shell access nor the ability to set up
cron jobs on the host server, so the information in the above FAQ is
not useful to you. The material you quoted pointed to a post from me
which may help, but this comes up all the time and there are many
posts in the archives of this list on this topic.

In particular, see
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-January/048484.html
for a summary of options that I think apply in your case.

Of these options, scripting the web interface may be the best, but it
will be slow for 14,000+ members. The email who command may do the
job if you don't have hidden members. To use the web script, you have
to install Python on your PC http://www.python.org/download/, and
then you can just run the script.

Another thing you might consider if this is just a one time shot is
asking the host service to run 'bin/list_members' for you and put the
result where you can download it or email it to you.

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[Mailman-Users] Zope Error

2006-01-25 Thread Nofiandyt
Hi,

I use zope ver.2.4.3
I was just got an error like this :

Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

Error Type: sql.error
Error Value: ('22008', 241, '[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL 
Server]Syntax error converting datetime from character string.')


Just info :

I found this code in index_html, maybe this code cause an error.

dtml-call REQUEST.set('vartgl', _.DateTime())


Could you help me to solve this problem ?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extracting membership list

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:

bin/listmembers --help

That should have been

bin/list_members --help

Sorry for any confusion.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman, Postfix and MySQL-based virtual domains

2006-01-25 Thread Glenn Sieb
Mark Sapiro said the following on 1/25/2006 9:49 PM:
 Werner Schalk wrote:
 
 I created some mailing lists. But when I try to 
 send a mail to one of them I get the following error message in my log file:

Just curious... do you issue:

postmap /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman

Because, if you don't, it's not hashed. (check for the existence of
/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db--if it doesn't exist, you're
not postmap'ing it.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation problems

2006-01-25 Thread Niemi Hannu
 -Alkuperäinen viesti-
 Lähettäjä: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Lähetetty: 25. tammikuuta 2006 17:37
 Vastaanottaja: Niemi Hannu; mailman-users@python.org
 Aihe: Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation problems

 Have you overridden PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE in mm_cfg.py?

Not that I know... and I checked, no such a line. The default in Defaults.py 
seems to be days(3) as it should
 
 How are you confirming? Web or email? Does it fail both ways? 
 What do the actual confirm strings look like?

Yes, it fails all ways, I have tried replying, sending the confirm string and 
by the web form. Always the same.

Confirm string looks like this:
confirm 0e36dd2b0c2825e99b3a9fe234790f8fba059f6f

 
 I also added another virtual host to mailman, and this list uses it, 
 could this cause this somehow?
 
 Is it only this list that fails? It is not likely a virtual 
 host problem as host really isn't involved in processing 
 confirmations.

I had to test the others. To be honest I haven't earlier used this kind of 
user-driven subscription in any of the lists on that server, but have been 
adding the users on the web form instead.

And the result is that (what was exactly what I was afraid of ;)) that at least 
the one I tested worked...

What gives???

Best regards

hannu
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