Re: [Mailman-Users] Question to mailman and postfix
Hi Mark, Your aliases are wrong. When you edited your 'mailman' aliases that looked like mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman etc, you replaced too many 'mailman occurrences. You changed the above into testing_b: |/usr/local/testing_b/mail/testing_b post testing_b instead of testing_b: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testing_b Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[10550]: disconnect from mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20] Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/local[10555]: 3BAE917443AD: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0.1, delays=0.08/0.01/0/0.02, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: local: fatal: execvp /usr/local/testing_b/mail/testing_b: No such file or directory ) What can I do to det it to run? Fix your aliases. Exactly that was it. Thank you very very much. :-) Mailman and postfix are working now. Your hints were really a very good support. Best regards, Kai -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I ban somebody?
Thanks all -Original Message- From: Johnathen Lieber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:04 PM To: wittygal Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I ban somebody? I believe you'll find what you need under the Privacy option... Section in the web admin section. Here there is a place to enter a list of banned email addresses -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman can't send mail
Hello, Although i can create a mail list and i can send mail to the list,that mail cannot be sent to other members of the list ( even no subscribe mails ). The mails that sent can be seen by the admin on the mail list page (tend to pending moderator requests). What should i do to fix this problem? ( I saw same topics in the archive,but they could not help me. ) Information about system; - The version of the mailman 2.1.9 - It is installed from source code. - The server - CentOS 5 - The mta - qmail thank you for your help Can Çizer -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Allowing attachments
All, What is the correct way to set a Mailman list to allow attachments. I would like to only allow .pdf's. My attemps make me believe I am missing a setting. Thanks, Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header problem
--- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If not, try sending the message to the list with a Bcc: to yourself. Then, if possible, examine the raw message received via Bcc:. It may not be sufficient to look at it in Agent, unless Agent can show you the raw message as received. You may be able to save it to a file from Agent and examine that with an editor, or possibly view Agent's mail folder with an editor. Good idea, provided good information. I tried the Bcc trick last night, and the header line did not come through, even though it appears in the copy in the Sent folder of my email program. I have to assume that Yahoo is removing the line on the outbound side. I have one email account with a different service I can try, but it will take some setting up. Roy Harvey Beacon Falls, CT -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How to allow mail from domain.edu but no others?
Hi all, I'd like to allow both list members and non-list members to be able to post to a mailing list I help admin. So, I want to allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post, but no other domain names. Is there an easy way to do accomplish that? Looking at the web interface, I would ordinarily use the member_posting_only feature but that won't work in this case (because non-list members need to be able to post to the list, so long as they're from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Is there a way to accomplish this without involving the MTA? This is with mailman 2.0.12 (I know, I know!) on SPARC Solaris. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Waltham Systems Engineer Bowdoin College Tel: (207) 798-7029 Cel: (207) 607-3643 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman and postfix
Hello List, first: I installed mailman now for the first time. I could make the new list mailman via ssh and the newlist command. The second list I created via the webinterface. Everything works well, but if I send now a message to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get the following Error: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail for http://www.lists.bushido-wuestems.de www.lists.bushido- wuestems.de loops back to myself You do not say if you are using sendmail as your MTA, but from the message I assume so. You need a [Daniel Herrmann] Oh, i'm sorry, i forgot to say. I'm using Postfix, not sendmail. What do I have to do here ? Cw www.lists.bushido-wuestems.de record in your sendmail.cf file telling sendmail that it is allowed to accept mail destined for Daniel In /etc/postfix/main.cf, add the nodename to mydestination = if it is not already there. If it is, then I would have to see a rejection message with mail headers to determine what might be the problem. [Daniel Herrmann] Ok, thank you. Now I get a new error, and I found the reason. I don't have the wrapper program, which should be normally In /usr/lib/mailman/mail , but it is nor there. I couldn't even find it with find / -name wrapper -print, I just don't have it. What to do now ? Daniel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Allowing attachments
Paul Hepp wrote: What is the correct way to set a Mailman list to allow attachments. I would like to only allow .pdf's. My attemps make me believe I am missing a setting. In content filtering, use the following: filter_mime_types empty pass_mime_types multipart message/rfc822 text/plain application/pdf add text/html to the above list if you want to accept html and possibly convert it to plain text filter_filename_extensions doesn't matter as long as it doesn't contain pdf pass_filename_extensions pdf or empty pdf will mean that any mime part that has a file name or name parameter with an extension will be removed if the extension is not 'pdf'. This will also remove any text/plain attachment with a 'txt' or other extension which may not be what you want, so leaving this empty is probably what you want. collapse_alternatives If you want to keep only the text/plain subpart from a multipart/alternative part with text/plain and text/html subparts, set this to Yes. If you want to keep it as multipart/alternative with both subparts, set this to No. convert_html_to_plaintext filter_action as desired. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman and postfix
Daniel Herrmann wrote: Now I get a new error, and I found the reason. I don't have the wrapper program, which should be normally In /usr/lib/mailman/mail , but it is nor there. I couldn't even find it with find / -name wrapper -print, I just don't have it. You couldn't find it like that because it's name hasn't been 'wrapper' since Mailman 2.0. It is the file mail/mailman. Where it is depends on how you installed Mailman. The configure defaults put it in /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Allowing attachments
Note to Paul Hepp: Go to http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-September/058452.html to see my reply to your post. See the note at the bottom of FAQs 1.22 and 1.33 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index. When you post a question to a mail list, turn off your spam blocker. People who are trying to help you get really pissed off when you block their mail. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to allow mail from domain.edu but no others?
Chris Waltham wrote: I'd like to allow both list members and non-list members to be able to post to a mailing list I help admin. So, I want to allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post, but no other domain names. Is there an easy way to do accomplish that? Looking at the web interface, I would ordinarily use the member_posting_only feature but that won't work in this case (because non-list members need to be able to post to the list, so long as they're from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Is there a way to accomplish this without involving the MTA? This is with mailman 2.0.12 (I know, I know!) on SPARC Solaris. It's trivial in Mailman 2.1. Just put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in accept_these_nonmembers. In Mailman 2.0, the roughly corresponding list attribute is posters, but posters accepts only addresses, not regexps matching addresses. I think your choices are either upgrade or implement a custom handler. There is information on custom handlers in Mailman 2.1 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.067.htp. Mailman 2.0 is similar, except the handler pipeline is not in Defaults.py and thus cannot be manipulated in mm_cfg.py, nor is a list pipeline attribute recognized. Adding a handler to the pipeline requires modifying Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, at which point it might be easier to just modify Handlers/Approve.py to accept posts for that list from senders in that domain. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman can't send mail
Can Cizer wrote: Although i can create a mail list and i can send mail to the list,that mail cannot be sent to other members of the list ( even no subscribe mails ). The mails that sent can be seen by the admin on the mail list page (tend to pending moderator requests). What should i do to fix this problem? ( I saw same topics in the archive,but they could not help me. ) Information about system; - The version of the mailman 2.1.9 - It is installed from source code. - The server - CentOS 5 - The mta - qmail The information in http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.078.htp may help, but since posts get as far as being held, but no outging mail is delivered, presumably even after approving the held posts, much of that FAQ isn't relevant. Do posts appear in the list's archive? No outgoing mail says either OutgoingRunner isn't running (but we know IncomingRunner is because posts get processed and held), so check that all the qrunners are running (FAQ 4.78 - 1b and 5b), check Mailman's queues (FAQ 4.78 - 8) and check Mailman's logs (FAQ 4.78 - 7), particularly 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure', but also 'error'. This should tell you whether the mail is getting out of Mailman or not. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman can't send mail
On 9/18/07, Can Cizer wrote: Although i can create a mail list and i can send mail to the list,that mail cannot be sent to other members of the list ( even no subscribe mails ). The mails that sent can be seen by the admin on the mail list page (tend to pending moderator requests). What should i do to fix this problem? ( I saw same topics in the archive,but they could not help me. ) What is in your logs as created by your MTA (qmail)? Without more information (especially the basics), there's not going to be anything that anyone can do to help you. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] migrating Mailman server
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:37:24 -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. All of the files under the ./lists/listname directory. 2. All of the files under the ./archives/private/listname directory. 3. ./Mailman/mm_cfg.py 4. Any other files in the ./archives directory with listname in their names. When doing this, does a person also tar and move the mailman list? -- Raquel Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness. --George Washington -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] migrating Mailman server
Raquel wrote: 1. All of the files under the ./lists/listname directory. 2. All of the files under the ./archives/private/listname directory. 3. ./Mailman/mm_cfg.py 4. Any other files in the ./archives directory with listname in their names. When doing this, does a person also tar and move the mailman list? It depends. If you are moving lists to an already existing Mailman installation, that installation will already have a 'mailman' list, so it isn't necessary to move it. If you are moving to a brand new, from source installation that has no lists yet, then move the 'mailman' list too. In between is moving to a brand new, from a package installation. The package likely has already installed a 'mailman' list, but you might prefer the configuration of the one you already have. If so, move the old one. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] migrating Mailman server
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:59:38 -0700 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: 1. All of the files under the ./lists/listname directory. 2. All of the files under the ./archives/private/listname directory. 3. ./Mailman/mm_cfg.py 4. Any other files in the ./archives directory with listname in their names. When doing this, does a person also tar and move the mailman list? It depends. If you are moving lists to an already existing Mailman installation, that installation will already have a 'mailman' list, so it isn't necessary to move it. If you are moving to a brand new, from source installation that has no lists yet, then move the 'mailman' list too. In between is moving to a brand new, from a package installation. The package likely has already installed a 'mailman' list, but you might prefer the configuration of the one you already have. If so, move the old one. -- Mark Sapiro Thank you, Mark. You told me exactly what I needed. -- Raquel Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. --Thomas Jefferson -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to allow mail from domain.edu but no others?
On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Chris Waltham wrote: I'd like to allow both list members and non-list members to be able to post to a mailing list I help admin. So, I want to allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post, but no other domain names. Is there an easy way to do accomplish that? Looking at the web interface, I would ordinarily use the member_posting_only feature but that won't work in this case (because non-list members need to be able to post to the list, so long as they're from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Is there a way to accomplish this without involving the MTA? This is with mailman 2.0.12 (I know, I know!) on SPARC Solaris. It's trivial in Mailman 2.1. Just put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in accept_these_nonmembers. In Mailman 2.0, the roughly corresponding list attribute is posters, but posters accepts only addresses, not regexps matching addresses. I think your choices are either upgrade or implement a custom handler. Thanks for your reply, Mark. Because we're changing architectures (SPARC to Linux) and MTAs (postfix to Sendmail), we don't want to upgrade the existing 2.0.12 installation. So, I've been building a 2.1.9 installation for the new Linux box and trying to get everything squared away before we change. There's a lot of lists a lot of mail, so we want to do it once and do it right! Thanks again for helping me apply band-aids to my current situation. Chris There is information on custom handlers in Mailman 2.1 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=showfile=faq04.067.htp. Mailman 2.0 is similar, except the handler pipeline is not in Defaults.py and thus cannot be manipulated in mm_cfg.py, nor is a list pipeline attribute recognized. Adding a handler to the pipeline requires modifying Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, at which point it might be easier to just modify Handlers/Approve.py to accept posts for that list from senders in that domain. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with URL host installing v2.1.9
Hi, This is a new install and not an update. I first ran configure with no options and then built/installed mailman. Then I reran configure with the argument: --with-urlhost=www.linfield.edu. I also verified Defaults.py: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.linfield.edu'. The problem is that the banners (stuff in the blue bar at the top of the page) all show the host name of the machine and not the URL host. Also, how do I give myself the authority to create lists from the web as opposed to running newlist from the command line. Whenever I try I get an error back saying that I'm not authorized. Thanks, Rob -- Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville OR -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with URL host installing v2.1.9
Rob Tanner wrote: This is a new install and not an update. I first ran configure with no options and then built/installed mailman. Then I reran configure with the argument: --with-urlhost=www.linfield.edu. I also verified Defaults.py: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.linfield.edu'. The problem is that the banners (stuff in the blue bar at the top of the page) all show the host name of the machine and not the URL host. If you created the list(s) before rerunning configure and make install, you now need to run fix_url http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.069.htp. Also, how do I give myself the authority to create lists from the web as opposed to running newlist from the command line. Whenever I try I get an error back saying that I'm not authorized. You have to provide either the Mailman installation site password or the Mailman installation list creator password in the List creator's (authentication) password: box on the form. Both these passwords are set via the command line tool bin/mmsitepass. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
