Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting
On 10/24/07, Tom Ray [Lists] wrote: I guess the real question is will it do a history too? I need to figure out past history. As the author of mmdsr, I'll say that you should be able to feed it old Mailman log data and have it just work, but I won't guarantee that. If you try this and it doesn't work for you, please let me know and I'll try to work with you to modify the code so that it does just work when fed old log data. Keep in mind that there's a good chunk of mmdsr where it goes and looks at the current status of what is in the various queue directories, etc... and this obviously won't be relevant for processing of historical log data. I should probably add a command-line flag so that you can tell it whether to just do the summary based on the log data (which should work regardless of whether the data is historical or current), or to do the log data summary plus the current condition report. Let me think about that, and see if I have any time available. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Change the name of a mailing list?
Hi all, I need to change the name of a mailing list. That is: -- The address to which people send to the list and -- The name as it appears in the Mailman config and public pages. I wish to keep the current subscriber list and archives. I searched for this problem, but did not find an answer...only others asking the same question. What is the best way to go about doing this? Thank you, -Erica -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Change the name of a mailing list?
On 10/25/07, Erica Douglass wrote: I searched for this problem, but did not find an answer...only others asking the same question. What is the best way to go about doing this? FAQ 4.40. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman
Hi, I installed mailman and go for Check Installation phase as per mailman Installation Manual [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman$ bin/check_perms -f Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/check_perms, line 45, in module from Mailman import mm_cfg ImportError: cannot import name mm_cfg Regards Smita -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 24, 2007 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman To: QA Engg [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mailman-Users@python.org QA Engg wrote: I tried the procedure to install mailman from the Wikipedia and following errors [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ emerge -p mailman bash: emerge: command not found [...] You are trying to follow instructions for a package and perhaps even an OS which you do not have. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ # groups mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cron mailman cron: can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ # cd /usr/local/mailman/cron crontab -u mailman crontab.in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ # su - mailman In 3 of the four lines, the '#' you typed is actually the 'root' shell prompt in the example you are copying. Thus you are typing comments, not commands. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ $ cd /usr/local/mailman/cron bash: $: command not found Here and in the following you typed a '$' prompt as opposed to the '#' above so bash told you there is no '$' command. You need to get some help and instruction from somone who knows something about Unix/Linux. That is beyond the scope of the mailman-users@python.org list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Delegated Administration
Does anyone have a prebuilt VMWare instance for MailMan? It seems as if this program is a bear to configure? I just don't have the time unless someone else has a quick and easy way to set this up. It would be much easier to modify a running instance rather than configure from scratch. Thanks in Advance, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Desactivate a mailing liste
Hello everybody, How can I desactivate a mailing list? I don't want to remove but juste desactivate temporarly. Regards Pierre _ Découvrez le blog Messenger Le Meilleur du Web : toutes les vidéos qui buzzent le plus sur Internet ! http://meilleurduweb.spaces.live.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Change the name of a mailing list?
Brad Knowles wrote: On 10/25/07, Erica Douglass wrote: I searched for this problem, but did not find an answer...only others asking the same question. What is the best way to go about doing this? FAQ 4.40. I think that's a typo. It's FAQ 4.70 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Desactivate a mailing liste
pierre lacoste wrote: How can I desactivate a mailing list? I don't want to remove but juste desactivate temporarly. It depends on your MTA and on exactly what you mean by deactivate. Consider the following. Remove aliases for this list from the MTA. Set emergency moderation On. Move the lists/listname/ directory aside. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting
Brad Knowles wrote: On 10/24/07, Tom Ray [Lists] wrote: I guess the real question is will it do a history too? I need to figure out past history. As the author of mmdsr, I'll say that you should be able to feed it old Mailman log data and have it just work, but I won't guarantee that. If you try this and it doesn't work for you, please let me know and I'll try to work with you to modify the code so that it does just work when fed old log data. Keep in mind that there's a good chunk of mmdsr where it goes and looks at the current status of what is in the various queue directories, etc... and this obviously won't be relevant for processing of historical log data. I should probably add a command-line flag so that you can tell it whether to just do the summary based on the log data (which should work regardless of whether the data is historical or current), or to do the log data summary plus the current condition report. Let me think about that, and see if I have any time available. Alright, I just ran a blanketed request that went through the whole log file, which was pretty nice since I haven't rotated ever. It goes back to April 2006. I do have some questions about the report though, and please forgive my ignorance. I use MM but I really haven't dove into like I should have so I'm still a little shaky on how things work. According to the report one list has 14,297 posts but according to the Post Count by Sender report 13,797 of those posts came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] So does that mean that only 500 posts were made by members or are those 13,797 more then just commands from the members? I would appreciate a better explanation on that. Also, under the Hourly Summary of Message Sent report from the smtp log. The totals are based on how many email addresses the message was sent to, correct? So if a list has 250 members it counts each message per member? I know that it bundles the message per connection so a single SMTP connect could have 100 messages in it. I just want to make sure. The problem is that my email server is being beaten in to the ground and it looks like this clients lists (they have 8 or so) are seeing a heavy increase in membership and frequency. I need to put numbers together so I can tell them they need to either get a dedicated list server or pay more (so I can upgrade!). Any help would be great. I'm just a bit ignorant on the internal workings of MM but am learning. Plus I don't know Python from a hole in the ground so I'm leery about messing with code to much. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting
Tom Ray [Lists] wrote: According to the report one list has 14,297 posts but according to the Post Count by Sender report 13,797 of those posts came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] So does that mean that only 500 posts were made by members or are those 13,797 more then just commands from the members? I would appreciate a better explanation on that. This is a bug in Mailman pre 2.1.7 that logged the envelope sender of the outgoing message instead of the incoming message. Also, under the Hourly Summary of Message Sent report from the smtp log. The totals are based on how many email addresses the message was sent to, correct? So if a list has 250 members it counts each message per member? I know that it bundles the message per connection so a single SMTP connect could have 100 messages in it. I just want to make sure. Yes, you are correct. This comes from the smtp log and is the total number of recipients which depending on mm_cfg settings could be one smtp connection per recipient or a single smtp connection with a few smtp transactions with hundreds of recipients per transaction, or something in between. But the number is always the total recipients. The problem is that my email server is being beaten in to the ground and it looks like this clients lists (they have 8 or so) are seeing a heavy increase in membership and frequency. I need to put numbers together so I can tell them they need to either get a dedicated list server or pay more (so I can upgrade!). Any help would be great. I'm just a bit ignorant on the internal workings of MM but am learning. Plus I don't know Python from a hole in the ground so I'm leery about messing with code to much. The mmdsr report gives you post count per list and by sender, but due to the mailman bug in 2.1.6 and earlier, these are usually the same since the sender is list-bounces. It also gives the hourly summary of posts and of messages sent, the latter of which is really the number of recipients, not the number of smtp transactions or smtp connects. It does not give you messages sent by list. In order to get that, you need to look at the 'post' log to get the list and from information and the message-id and then get the corresponding message-id entry from the smtp log to get the number of recipients. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Desactivate a mailing liste
On Oct 25, 2007, at 10:51 AM, pierre lacoste wrote: Hello everybody, How can I desactivate a mailing list? I don't want to remove but juste desactivate temporarly. You can make the list moderated, or you could even remove the aliases for your list. There are other ways also. Chris Regards Pierre -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman
QA Engg wrote: I installed mailman and go for Check Installation phase as per mailman Installation Manual [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman$ bin/check_perms -f Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/check_perms, line 45, in module from Mailman import mm_cfg ImportError: cannot import name mm_cfg Your installation was not successful. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 24, 2007 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman To: QA Engg [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mailman-Users@python.org snip You need to get some help and instruction from somone who knows something about Unix/Linux. That is beyond the scope of the mailman-users@python.org list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting
Mark Sapiro wrote: Tom Ray [Lists] wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: This is a bug in Mailman pre 2.1.7 that logged the envelope sender of the outgoing message instead of the incoming message. So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly then that some of those message could be valid posts made by members since this list was around since 2.1.4 or so? These are all valid posts made by list members. Everything in the 'post' log should be a valid post to the list. Occasionally, when there is an smtp-failure on a mailman generated message (say a reject of spam with a forged non-existant local address), you can get a failure entry in the post log even though the message wasn't a post, but if you filter out the failures (or the [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-ids), everything else is a legitimate list post. Note that these failures appear in the mmdsr report under Other Messages:-Log file: post. Thanks. That helps a lot. Thanks for the information. I'm tearing apart the post log because I want to get the total size of the message. Then I need to figure out how many emails where sent so I can figure out bandwidth usage. I mean if they send a 10K file to a list with 1,000 members that's a lot of bandwidth to send out. Yes, but if you want to be truly accurate, you also have to look at your MTA logs. For example, if a 10K message is sent to a list with 1000 members, and the list is not personalized, and the message is not VERPed in Mailman, mailman might deliver this to the MTA in say 5 transactions with 200 recipients each for a total exchange between Mailman and the MTA of about 50K plus the address list. The MTA in turn might batch delivery so if say 50 of those 1000 recipients are in the aol.com domain, the MTA might send one 10K + transaction to AOL for all 50, rather that sending 10K 50 times. I see what you are saying. I'll write something to dig through my Exim logs and see what I can come up with. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How to set keyword : field in email?
How does one set the Keyword: field in an email so mailman will filter the message into the correct topic? I use Evolution as my email client. Thanks! Mark -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] qrunner error
I noticed that messages were not going out to my mailing lists. When I restarted mailman, this comes up. Any mail sent to the list is being archived, but is not going to the members. Traceback (most recent call last): File /users/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /users/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 65, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 93, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 156, in dequeue data = self._ext_read(dbfile) File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 262, in _ext_read dict = marshal.load(fp) ValueError: bad marshal data I'm running mailman 2.1.9 and python 2.3.4. I created a list the other day and that's when I noticed the problem. I've since deleted that list, but I still get the same error. I don't believe that was the problem anyway. I found a check_request_db program on the web that seem to suggest an answer to my problem, but the program doesn't seem to do anything. I don't know any python, so I don't know how to read that program. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. --myron = Myron Kowalski MoCoSIN Network/Systems Administrator Moravian College [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Batch processing a mailing list...
Hi, I'm pretty new to the mailman thing... I've been lurching this mailing list a few weeks now, and you guys really seem very helpful... (even if we ask pretty novice questions) So, here's my question: I want to transfer a mailinglist to my new host (Webhosting UK). My list counts 750 members, but I'm recommended to (as they mailed me) split the mail transfer up into batches of maximum 250 members at once, with a 1 hour delay. I'm not really in the clear how I should do this... could you guys help me out? Thanks in advance, Jurgen. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner error
Myron Kowalski wrote: I noticed that messages were not going out to my mailing lists. When I restarted mailman, this comes up. Any mail sent to the list is being archived, but is not going to the members. Traceback (most recent call last): File /users/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /users/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 65, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 93, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 156, in dequeue data = self._ext_read(dbfile) File /users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 262, in _ext_read dict = marshal.load(fp) ValueError: bad marshal data I'm running mailman 2.1.9 and python 2.3.4. Something is wrong here because the line numbers in Switchboard.py look like Mailman 2.1.4, and that was the last version of Switchboard.py that had those statements in it anywhere. Presumably, this is OutgoingRunner encountering the problem, because IncomingRunner and ArchRunner both have to work for messages to be archived. The problem may be as simple as some spurious file in qfiles/out with a .db extension. If there are .pck files in qfiles/out, and one .db file, try moving the .db file aside. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set keyword : field in email?
Mark Phillips wrote: How does one set the Keyword: field in an email so mailman will filter the message into the correct topic? I use Evolution as my email client. You can put topic keywords in actual Keywords: headers or in the Subject: header or you can put lines that look like Keywords: ... and/or Subject: ... in the initial lines of the message body preceding any non-header like lines. E.g., if the list's topics_bodylines_limit is set to 5, and the first 5 lines of the message body are Keywords: aa, bb Junk: cc Keywords: dd zzz Keywords: ee the strings 'aa, bb' and 'dd' will be searched with the topic regexps, but 'ee' will not because the non-header like line 'zzz' stops the search. As far as setting an actual Keywords: header with Evolution is concerned, you'd have to ask where people know Evolution. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator archive
Mikael Hansen wrote: I am hesitant to ask this as I should wait until one day when I can investigate it myself in more depth, but when the moderator approves or rejects, how can the moderator (using the web interface to send) receive a copy of the email going to the member? A forward of the moderated message does not include the moderator's decision. Well, if the moderator approves the message, the post itself goes to the list and the list archive and nothing else goes to the poster. If the moderator rejects the message, a boiler plate message with the moderator's reason included is sent to the poster. There's no way for the moderator to get a copy of the message with the reject reason unless the moderator is the poster which is how you see samples of these messages. I.e., send a post to a list you moderate that you know will be held (say for too big or implicit destination or maybe from a non-member address) and reject it. And is there an archive of such decisions (and invitations etc) available to the moderator? I feel I must have overlooked the obvious. Mailman's 'vette' log logs held posts and moderator actions, but not messages. Invitations themselves aren't logged, but accepted invitations are logged in the 'subscribe' log as new subscriptions. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list-admin-interface : Login failed
kk CHN wrote: this is my error log for mailman tail /usr/local/mailman/logs/error is showing these only admin(15742): SCRIPT_URL: /mailman/admin/listx admin(15742): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/list admin(15742): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q= 0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 admin(15742): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(15742): REMOTE_PORT: 39221 admin(15742): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: ta,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3 admin(15742): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(15742): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate admin(15742): UNIQUE_ID: W51T4suB-7YAADz9WIoAAALT admin(15742): PATH_INFO: /listx Try tail -100 /usr/local/mailman/logs/error so we can see the entire message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM errors.
Doc Schneider wrote: I'm seeing the following errors in the error log. Any one know where to find a fix? This is MM 2.1.5 running on RHEL 4 Python 2.3.4. Thanks, Oct 24 18:15:35 2007 (13363) SHUNTING: 1193264135.2076499+0c863f656c1d72d260d866d594b0e1bfedff5c6e Oct 24 18:15:51 2007 (13363) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: gb2312 Oct 24 18:15:51 2007 (13363) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py, line 223, in _dispose res = Results(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py, line 77, in __init__ subj = make_header(decode_header(subj)).__unicode__() File /usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py, line 144, in make_header h.append(s, charset) File /usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py, line 272, in append ustr = unicode(s, incodec, errors) LookupError: unknown encoding: gb2312 It looks to me like you are getting spam sent to one or more of the listname-confirm, listname-request, listname-join, listname-subscribe, listname-leave or listname-unsubscribe addresses with an RFC 2047 encoded subject with a 'gb2312' encoding. I'm not sure why your Python email library doesn't recognize this encoding, but in any case, these are almost certainly spam messages. You can examine the message entries in qfiles/shunt/ with bin/show_qfiles, and if they are in fact spam, just remove the files. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch processing a mailing list...
Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote: So, here's my question: I want to transfer a mailinglist to my new host (Webhosting UK). My list counts 750 members, but I'm recommended to (as they mailed me) split the mail transfer up into batches of maximum 250 members at once, with a 1 hour delay. I'm not really in the clear how I should do this... could you guys help me out? Mailman doesn't do this. You can set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 250 in mm_cfg.py to make sure that no single SMTP transaction sends to more than 250 recipients, but Mailman will still send to all 750 members with as little delay as possible. It would be possible to modify Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py to keep track and not send to more than 250 recipients per hour, but that might result in large backlogs. Anyway, would this be your Mailman installation or the host's? If it's the host's, there's nothing you can do and what they seem to be telling you is they won't support lists with more than 250 members or more than 250 (posts X members) per hour. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch processing a mailing list...
Hi Jurgen: What is most likely happening is your host is limiting your hosting account to only being able to send out 250 e-mails per hour. This is a very common practice among web hosts. If this becomes a problem, then you can move your list(s) to our mailman service. We do not impose such limitations on our mailman clients. http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html Kind regards, Brian Carpenter -- EMWD - Executive Officer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:23 PM To: Jurgen Gaeremyn; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch processing a mailing list... Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote: So, here's my question: I want to transfer a mailinglist to my new host (Webhosting UK). My list counts 750 members, but I'm recommended to (as they mailed me) split the mail transfer up into batches of maximum 250 members at once, with a 1 hour delay. I'm not really in the clear how I should do this... could you guys help me out? Mailman doesn't do this. You can set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 250 in mm_cfg.py to make sure that no single SMTP transaction sends to more than 250 recipients, but Mailman will still send to all 750 members with as little delay as possible. It would be possible to modify Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py to keep track and not send to more than 250 recipients per hour, but that might result in large backlogs. Anyway, would this be your Mailman installation or the host's? If it's the host's, there's nothing you can do and what they seem to be telling you is they won't support lists with more than 250 members or more than 250 (posts X members) per hour. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/brian%40emwd.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
