Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords
Hi Mark Thank you for this - you have saved the day! :-) Cron job run. Everyone now has their password. Phew. I have done 3 to 5 (of your message) in the control panel, too. Regards Rachel At 15:56 10/09/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: ... Once a person is a list member, you can't send another welcome message without unsubscribing and resubscribing the member. You can send a password reminder to everyone on the list by first making sure that Send monthly password reminders? on the General Options page is set to Yes and then from a shell, running Mailman's cron/mailpasswds -l listname To ensure the welcome is sent when doing mass subscribes in the future 1. Log into Mailman control panel 2. Scroll down the General Options to List-specific text prepended to new-subscriber welcome message 3. Enter any text to be sent in the message as well as the password 3. Optionally enter any additional, list specific text to be sent along with the standard welcome message - this is a one time step. 4. Make sure that Send welcome message to newly subscribed members? is set to Yes - this is a one time step. 5. When using Membership Management... - Mass Subscription to add members, make sure that Send welcome messages to new subscribees? is set to Yes. This will be the default if step 4 was done. ... Mailman is not going to add the members password to any ordinary message. The only messages to the user that contain the password are the actual Mailman generated list welcome message, the password reminders sent from cron/maillpasswds (normally run monthly on the 1st by cron) and a user requested password reminder from the user options login page. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Customising the look of the subscriber login and archive pages
Hi list I have customised the html of three pages - general list information, user specific options, and subscribe results - to have the same look and feel as the rest of the client's web site. It appears not to be possible to do the same to the subscriber login and archive pages - is that correct? (I need to be able to explain this, when the client realises this and wants to know why these pages are still in the default Mailman blue and white.) TVIA Rachel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server
Mailman is under email, mailing lists in Cpanel (Not WHM.) It is extremely easy to setup once you create the list in Cpanel. Email me back if you cannot figure it out, and I can walk you through it. - Original Message - From: faisal anif [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:05:39 +0300 Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server hello, I have a problem if anyone can help me. I'm in the autoparts business and I had a small hosting plan with cpanel where I could install mailman with just one click. I have a mailing list of my customers with about 400 subscribers and send them weekly updates once a week and monthly updates once a month. but as my business grew big I needed a dedicated server to put my data and manuals and videos on. so I bought a server and paid for several months upfront. but for my surprise I could not find mailman ready to be installed in its control panel (webmin). I'm no computer tech, could someone install mailman for me on the server? I'm ready to pay for the installation. Thank you Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server
Mailman is under email, mailing lists in Cpanel (Not WHM.) It is extremely easy to setup once you create the list in Cpanel. Email me back if you cannot figure it out, and I can walk you through it. - Original Message - From: faisal anif [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:05:39 +0300 Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server hello, I have a problem if anyone can help me. I'm in the autoparts business and I had a small hosting plan with cpanel where I could install mailman with just one click. I have a mailing list of my customers with about 400 subscribers and send them weekly updates once a week and monthly updates once a month. but as my business grew big I needed a dedicated server to put my data and manuals and videos on. so I bought a server and paid for several months upfront. but for my surprise I could not find mailman ready to be installed in its control panel (webmin). I'm no computer tech, could someone install mailman for me on the server? I'm ready to pay for the installation. Thank you You might want to re-read his message. His new dedicated server is running webmin not cpanel. Regards, Brian -- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - Curious comments from a web hosting techie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce handling is not user-friendly.
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, David Ingamells wrote: Please act on the following 2 points below as enhancements to MailMan. These arise from my membership of the bazaar mailing list. I am getting Your membership in the mailing list bazaar has been disabled due to excessive bounces messages regularly (every week) now. Curiously, up to the time of the excessive bounce message I don't miss any emails that failed to arrive from the mailing list. I have spoken to our sysadmin and he knows nothing about any bounces from our mail server. It is very annoying as I don't know what I can do about it with the information available to me. Furthermore I miss messages to the mailing list between the time that the membership is disabled until the time I can act upon the message. It also happened while I was on holiday and my membership almost got deleted. 1) Can you adapt mailman to support first sending a warning and allow the member a little time (e.g. a day) to react before the heavy-handed action of disabling the membership? Mailman is customizable in that area (per list). By default, mailman will need to see bounces on a certain number of days within a certain longer period before it disables the account. For instance, if mailman is configured to disable on five bounces (counting a maximum of one per day) within 14 days, it will continue to send until the fifth day with a bounce. After 14 days go by without a bounce, the data is considered stale and you start over with zero bounces. It's possible the list admin set it to disable you after just one bounce. There are situations where this might be the desired behavior but those are generally pretty few and far between. Once the membership is disabled, the disabled reminders are sent out weekly for a user-configurable number of weeks after which the recipient is unsubscribed. Sending a warning makes no sense since if mail is bouncing, usually all mail to that user is bouncing and it the warning will bounce too. 2) Can you you adapt mailman to send an example of (at least the header of) a bounced email with the message? Without this information I don't know how I can stop them as I don't know what, who or where the bounce is happening. That information is sent to the list owner. For my lists, almost always it's because the user abandoned the address and it went away. Your situation sounds like there is some issue between the list server and you that is causing an occassional message to be rejected with a permanent error. You said you're not missing any messages right up until the you are disabled message but how do you know for sure. The best thing would be to write to the list owner and ask him to forward the disabled message he receives (by default) the next time it happens. What could be causing the bounces is really not a Mailman issue but off the top of my head, possibilities are: 1) a misconfigured mail server that is rejecting mail with a permanent error for what is a transient error 2) mail being bounced by a spam filter 3) Auto-replies from your mail program back to the sender I'm sure there are others. How well they'll be recognized by the mailman bounce processor partially depends on certain list configuration options. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server
You are right. The *old* server was Cpanel. :( - Original Message - From: Brian Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],'faisal anif' [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:30:51 -0400 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server Mailman is under email, mailing lists in Cpanel (Not WHM.) It is extremely easy to setup once you create the list in Cpanel. Email me back if you cannot figure it out, and I can walk you through it. - Original Message - From: faisal anif [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:05:39 +0300 Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server hello, I have a problem if anyone can help me. I'm in the autoparts business and I had a small hosting plan with cpanel where I could install mailman with just one click. I have a mailing list of my customers with about 400 subscribers and send them weekly updates once a week and monthly updates once a month. but as my business grew big I needed a dedicated server to put my data and manuals and videos on. so I bought a server and paid for several months upfront. but for my surprise I could not find mailman ready to be installed in its control panel (webmin). I'm no computer tech, could someone install mailman for me on the server? I'm ready to pay for the installation. Thank you You might want to re-read his message. His new dedicated server is running webmin not cpanel. Regards, Brian -- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - Curious comments from a web hosting techie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] emails getting eaten
Hello, I just set up mailman and everything seems ok. It sends new user registration emails, welcome emails... But when I send an email to list's address it doesn't get sent to users. I don't get any error back and the email doesn't even appear in archives. What could be the problem? It seems like all emails sent to list address vanish. Does Mailman make any log files, I couldn't find any? thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Moving and renaming a list
Hi, I've got a list which is on a machine that will be decommissioned soon. I have to move it to another machine, but that destination machine already has a list with the same name. I'm guessing I will have to rename the list no matter what, but I can still have the same email addresses pointing to it right? The other unfortunate aspect of this situation is that the source machine has Mailman 2.1.5, and the destination has 2.0.9. Is this likely to cause big problems? -- Regards, Oliver -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Virtual Hosts Listinfo Overview problem
Running 2.1.9 under Mac OS X 10.5.4, Apache 2.2.
I recently set up virtual hosts using the following settings in
mm_cfg.py:
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'acvr.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.acvr.org'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS=('www.acvr.org','xserve.petrad.com')
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW='OFF'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
Lists work fine, and I can access all of the individual list
configuration pages. But if I try to access https://www.acvr.org/mailman/listinfo
then I get the following error:
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited,
but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.
And the following information pops up in my Mailman error log...
admin(18986): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -]
admin(18986): [- Traceback --]
admin(18986): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in
run_main
admin(18986): main()
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py,
line 42, in main
admin(18986): listinfo_overview()
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py,
line 117, in listinfo_overview
admin(18986): siteowner = Utils.get_site_email()
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 701,
in get_site_email
admin(18986): hostname = mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.get(get_domain(),
get_domain())
admin(18986): AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'get'
admin(18986): [- Python Information -]
admin(18986): sys.version = 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 15 2008,
22:57:26)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)]
admin(18986): sys.executable = /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python
admin(18986): sys.prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5
admin(18986): sys.exec_prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5
admin(18986): sys.path= /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5
admin(18986): sys.platform= darwin
admin(18986): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(18986): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_ssl/
2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.7l mod_scgi_pubsub/1.11-pubsub mod_jk/1.2.23 PHP/
5.2.4 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8
admin(18986): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.2.8 (Unix) DAV/2
mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.7l mod_scgi_pubsub/1.11-pubsub mod_jk/1.2.23
PHP/5.2.4 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at xserve.petrad.com Port
443/address
admin(18986):
admin(18986): REQUEST_METHOD: GET
admin(18986): HTTP_FROM: googlebot(at)googlebot.com
admin(18986): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
admin(18986): QUERY_STRING:
admin(18986): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/
2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)
admin(18986): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-alive
admin(18986): SERVER_NAME: xserve.petrad.com
admin(18986): REMOTE_ADDR: 66.249.71.153
admin(18986): SERVER_PORT: 443
admin(18986): SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.1.4
admin(18986): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /Library/WebServer/Documents/ACVR
admin(18986): PYTHONPATH: /usr/share/mailman
admin(18986): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/share/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo
admin(18986): SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(18986): SCRIPT_URI: https://xserve.petrad.com/mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): HTTP_HOST: xserve.petrad.com
admin(18986): SCRIPT_URL: /mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): HTTPS: on
admin(18986): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): HTTP_ACCEPT: */*
admin(18986): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(18986): REMOTE_PORT: 42297
admin(18986): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate
I'm sure I've missed something in setting up the virtual hosts, but
I'm not sure what.
Thanks in advance.
-Rob
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[Mailman-Users] Pre install question
Hi to all, is it possible to install mailman on an shared internet server with no root access? Knut -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] emails getting eaten
Gregor Butala wrote: What could be the problem? It seems like all emails sent to list address vanish. Does Mailman make any log files, I couldn't find any? Go to the Mailman FAQ Wiki page at http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions and search for troubleshooting. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Pre install question
Knut Krueger wrote: is it possible to install mailman on an shared internet server with no root access? Not so far as I know. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Python.org Postmaster Team Co-Moderator of the mailman-users and mailman-developers mailing lists -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving and renaming a list
Oliver Hookins wrote: I've got a list which is on a machine that will be decommissioned soon. I have to move it to another machine, but that destination machine already has a list with the same name. I'm guessing I will have to rename the list no matter what, but I can still have the same email addresses pointing to it right? You'll have to rename the list, but once it's renamed, the senders should be able to use whatever addresses they want to send to the list. But maybe I misunderstood the question? The other unfortunate aspect of this situation is that the source machine has Mailman 2.1.5, and the destination has 2.0.9. Is this likely to cause big problems? Yeah, I don't think that's going to work so well -- the binary on-disk representation of the list configuration changed between 2.0.x and 2.1.x, and while Mailman makes it easy to upgrade, there are no downgrade tools I know of. Certainly, you won't be able to move the list configuration pickle files. You can dump the list of users to a text file and then re-import that on the older server, but it's going to be hard to capture all the other aspects of the list configuration. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Base64 encoding?
Jim Garrison wrote: Does Mailman ever take a message that it received in plain text form and re-encode it in base64 (leaving the mime type as text/plain)? Yes. (It's actually the underlying Python email library that does it.) On English language lists, it happens most commonly with messages whose character set is utf-8. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
