Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Oliver Glueck

Hi Mark,

thanks.
I have done all changes, but If I sent an email to a list,
I get an error message, because 'user unknown':

Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: Nachricht 
about-du...@www.company.de:1 von 1 wird gelesen (2783 Bytes) 
(Log-Meldung unvollständig)
Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1 
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in 
local recipient table


Why??

How can tell the server mail, that about-du...@localhost exists, without use
postfix/virtual?

Oliver


Mark Sapiro schrieb:

Oliver Glueck wrote:
  

I'm not sure about my malman installation.
I will show at first some facts:

- LAN: our LAN domain is intern.company.de
- the mail server in the LAN:  mail.intern.company.de
- on mail.intern.company.de is running open xchange on an UCS (unvention 
corporate server, a debian)


- our external domain is:  company.com  - an email address is 
name@company.com

 and @company.de on the same server.

- the internal open xchange has so three mail domains : 
intern.company.de, company.com and company.de

- fetchmail is polling the emails from the external mail server

- mailman is installed on the open xchange server 'mail.intern.company.de'

My first mailing list is  (after mailman) 'about-dummy'.
And /etc/postfix/virtual contains:
about-du...@company.com   about-dummy
about-du...@company.de  about-dummy
about-du...@intern.company.de   about-dummy




These things shouldn't be in /etc/postfix/virtual.


  
My first try to receive an email from an external address to this list 
is failed, because
I have to add 'about-du...@localhost'  in  virtual. After this entry, 
the email

was received.
But why @localhost? I saw this in the log file, unknown mailbox 
about-du...@localhost.




This is not a Mailman issue. This is probably fetchmail that is
delivering the message to about-du...@localhost.


  

For mailman I have no Idea about virtual_alias or virtual domains.
Only these two lines
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
MTA = 'Postfix'
I have added to mm_cfg.py. Is this ok?





With MTA = 'Postfix'. Mailman will maintain both aliases in
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases and virtual maps (if necessary?) in
/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman, but you have issues that will
probably preclude this from working.

If fetchmail is going to deliver to addresses like

listn...@localhost
listname-boun...@localhost
etc,

and localhost is in mydestination as it appears to be, you only need
aliases and not virtual maps.

Thus both what you have in mm_cfg.py and what you have in main.cf looks
OK.


If you have mail being given to Postfix for listn...@company.com, you
can add

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['company.com']

in mm_cfg.py and, assuming the list's email domain is company.com (see
my reply to your other post), Mailman will generate virtual maps like

listn...@company.com   LISTNAME
listname-boun...@company.com   LISTNAME-bounces
etc,

in /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman and you need to add
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman to virtual_maps in
main.cf.

If you actually need multiple domains for the same list in the virtual
maps, Mailman won't do that automatically.


  

And in postfix?
Here a short cutout from main.cf:
---snip---
myhostname = mail.intern.company.de
mydomain = intern.company.de
myorigin = /etc/mailname
smtp_helo_name = mail.intern.company.de
append_dot_mydomain = no
masquerade_domains = $mydomain
masquerade_exceptions = root
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport, ldap:ldaptransport
mydestination = $myhostname.$mydomain, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain, 
localhost, $transport_maps

mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
relay_domains = $mydestination
relayhost = www.company.de
canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical
virtual_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual, ldap:ldapgroups, 
ldap:ldapdistlist, ldap:ldapvirtual, ldap:ldapsharedfolderlocal

relocated_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relocated
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
---snap--- and many LDAP entries from the open xchange installation.




  


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[Mailman-Users] give time between posts

2009-02-26 Thread Burcu İnci
Hi,

 

İ have a list of about 3 members and SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is set to 20 . i want 
to give some time between every 20 post of my lists so that i can slow down the 
post.can i have a chance to do this and give some time ?

 

Thanks,

 

Burcu İnci

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting a bind address for SMTP delivery

2009-02-26 Thread Brad Knowles

on 2/26/09 1:25 AM, Karl O. Pinc said:


Tacking my domain name on somebody else's email address
puts it in the wrong place.  Better to leave it alone.


If it's from some other domain, then it should already be fully 
qualified before you get it -- that's required by the RFCs.


You should reject all e-mail that is not fully qualified if it comes 
from a non-local machine or domain.  Then you can safely add the local 
domain to any unqualified addresses that remain.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] give time between posts

2009-02-26 Thread Brad Knowles

on 2/26/09 6:48 AM, Burcu İnci said:


İ have a list of about 3 members and SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is set to 20
. i want to give some time between every 20 post of my lists so that
i can slow down the post.can i have a chance to do this and give some
time ?


Go to the FAQ Wiki at 
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions and search 
for rate limit.


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[Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-02-26 Thread george bannerman
Hi all--

I've got a tricky problem on my mailman server.  Right now, I have
admin_immed_notify set to yes, but I'm not getting notifications when there
are emails to approve.  I'm also not getting the once-a-day # list
moderator request(s) waiting either.  Forward messages (individually) to:
doesn't work.  They all mysteriously stopped last Friday.

I'm running Exim version 4.50 #1, Mailman 2.1.5,  Python 2.3.5, and Linux
version 2.6.16.13-xenU (Red Hat 4.0.2-8 running on Xen).

I rebooted the server (have you tried turning it off and turning it on
again?) and the restarted the exim daemon and ran check_perms, to no avail.

I can email listname-owner (and it goes through), I can send email from the
server, and list emails go out to the lists just fine.  It only appears to
be the administrator notifications and the forward messages individually to
that are affected.

I looked at FAQ 4.73:

http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.73+How+do+I+debug+smtp-failure+problems+-+delivery+to+user-example.com+failed+with+code+-1-+and+Low+level+smtp+error-

I can telnet into my SMTP port and send mail.
I looked at the MTA logs and they seem fine.  (They're below.)
I'm not running Python 2.4, so I can't do the error log trick

I looked at FAQ 6.14:

http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030722

I don't get any errors when I run the two python scripts interactively as
the mailman user.

Here's what I'm getting in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure:

Feb 25 13:54:52 2009 (1052) delivery to administra...@example.com failed
with code -1: Connection unexpectedly closed
Feb 25 14:32:49 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection
refused'), msgid: ms...@list.example.com
Feb 25 14:32:49 2009 (1052) delivery to administra...@example.com failed
with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')
Feb 25 14:34:02 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection
refused'), msgid: ms...@www.example.org
Feb 25 14:34:02 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: please run connect()
first, msgid: ms...@www.example.org
--
Feb 25 14:35:55 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection
refused'), msgid: ms...@list.example.com
Feb 25 14:35:55 2009 (1052) delivery to administra...@example.com failed
with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')

Here's what's in /var/log/exim4/mainlog:

2009-02-25 17:17:10 1LcS3p-0003iA-Ek =
administra...@example.comr=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=
ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [209.85.217.8]
2009-02-25 17:17:10 1LcS3p-0003iA-Ek Completed
2009-02-25 17:17:24 1LcS46-0003iH-Cj =
administra...@example.comr=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=
ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [209.85.217.8]
2009-02-25 17:17:24 1LcS46-0003iH-Cj Completed

(These are for a different message, but are representative.)

There doesn't seem to be anything in rejectlog.

I've tried changing the list administrator to a different email address by a
different provider, but that doesn't seem to change anything.

Help?

Best,

george
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce messages to list moderator?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob
So, owner = administrator(s)  moderators? Can bounces be sent  
only to the administrator? My list moderators don't need to get bounce  
notices.


Thanks,

-Rob


On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:


Rob wrote:


For an unknown reason, bounce messages are being sent to both the
administrator and moderator e-mail addresses. This is not typical
behavior for any of our other lists.

I've attached headers from a recent bounce below. Any advice on why
this is happening is much appreciated.



The message is the notification to the owners/moderators of a member
who's delivery is disabled by bounce. This notice is sent becaues
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is set to Yes.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-02-26 Thread george bannerman
Hi all--

Ummm... strangely, this appears to be working again.  Not sure why, but I'm
happy!

george

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:29 PM, george bannerman georgebanner...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all--

 I've got a tricky problem on my mailman server.  Right now, I have
 admin_immed_notify set to yes, but I'm not getting notifications when there
 are emails to approve.  I'm also not getting the once-a-day # list
 moderator request(s) waiting either.  Forward messages (individually) to:
 doesn't work.  They all mysteriously stopped last Friday.

 I'm running Exim version 4.50 #1, Mailman 2.1.5,  Python 2.3.5, and Linux
 version 2.6.16.13-xenU (Red Hat 4.0.2-8 running on Xen).

 I rebooted the server (have you tried turning it off and turning it on
 again?) and the restarted the exim daemon and ran check_perms, to no avail.

 I can email listname-owner (and it goes through), I can send email from the
 server, and list emails go out to the lists just fine.  It only appears to
 be the administrator notifications and the forward messages individually to
 that are affected.

 I looked at FAQ 4.73:


 http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.73+How+do+I+debug+smtp-failure+problems+-+delivery+to+user-example.com+failed+with+code+-1-+and+Low+level+smtp+error-

 I can telnet into my SMTP port and send mail.
 I looked at the MTA logs and they seem fine.  (They're below.)
 I'm not running Python 2.4, so I can't do the error log trick

 I looked at FAQ 6.14:

 http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030722

 I don't get any errors when I run the two python scripts interactively as
 the mailman user.

 Here's what I'm getting in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure:

 Feb 25 13:54:52 2009 (1052) delivery to administra...@example.com failed
 with code -1: Connection unexpectedly closed
 Feb 25 14:32:49 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection
 refused'), msgid: ms...@list.example.com
 Feb 25 14:32:49 2009 (1052) delivery to administra...@example.com failed
 with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')
 Feb 25 14:34:02 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection
 refused'), msgid: ms...@www.example.org
 Feb 25 14:34:02 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: please run connect()
 first, msgid: ms...@www.example.org
 --
 Feb 25 14:35:55 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection
 refused'), msgid: ms...@list.example.com
 Feb 25 14:35:55 2009 (1052) delivery to administra...@example.com failed
 with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')

 Here's what's in /var/log/exim4/mainlog:

 2009-02-25 17:17:10 1LcS3p-0003iA-Ek = administra...@example.comr=dnslookup 
 T=remote_smtp H=
 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [209.85.217.8]
 2009-02-25 17:17:10 1LcS3p-0003iA-Ek Completed
 2009-02-25 17:17:24 1LcS46-0003iH-Cj = administra...@example.comr=dnslookup 
 T=remote_smtp H=
 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [209.85.217.8]
 2009-02-25 17:17:24 1LcS46-0003iH-Cj Completed

 (These are for a different message, but are representative.)

 There doesn't seem to be anything in rejectlog.

 I've tried changing the list administrator to a different email address by
 a different provider, but that doesn't seem to change anything.

 Help?

 Best,

 george

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman max_size_limit not working

2009-02-26 Thread amritasysadmin

I have a Mailman 2.1.9 installation on RHEL v5

I have a list with max_size_limit set to 1.  However, the mails which are
more than 1KB also gets held for approval.  Mailman is not rejecting the
mails which are over 1KB.

Can you please help ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting a bind address for SMTP delivery

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Karl O. Pinc wrote:

There's various ways around the problem,
ways to keep postfix from re-writing the addresses.
I think the simplest would be if I could
control the address from which mailman sends
it's mail, say if mailman binds to 127.0.0.2
instead of 127.0.0.1 when it sends it's mail.
But I don't see a knob I can frob to control
this.


SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oliver Glueck wrote:

thanks.
I have done all changes, but If I sent an email to a list,
I get an error message, because 'user unknown':

Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: Nachricht
about-du...@www.company.de:1 von 1 wird gelesen (2783 Bytes)
(Log-Meldung unvollständig)
Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
local recipient table

Why??

How can tell the server mail, that about-du...@localhost exists, without use
postfix/virtual?


It looks like fetchmail is trying to deliver to Postfix and Postfix is
replying

550 5.1.1 about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User
unknown in local recipient table


This has nothing to do with virtual maps because it is looking locally
for the address. It says there is no local alias for about-dummy.

Have you reloaded Postfix since you added
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases to alias_maps in main.cf?

Are the aliases actually in /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases and is
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db up to date? If not, try running
Mailman's bin/genaliases.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman max_size_limit not working

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
amritasysadmin wrote:

I have a list with max_size_limit set to 1.  However, the mails which are
more than 1KB also gets held for approval.  Mailman is not rejecting the
mails which are over 1KB.


And it's not supposed to. Messages which exceed max_message_size (not
max_size_limit) are held, not discarded or rejected.

Also, if for example, the message is a post from a moderated member,
the message will be dealt with according to member_moderation_action
regardless of how big it is because membership and moderation are
considered before the various miscellaneous holds.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting a bind address for SMTP delivery

2009-02-26 Thread Brad Knowles

Mark Sapiro wrote:


SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py.


That controls where you send to, but not what address Mailman binds to when 
it sends to that host/port.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting a bind address for SMTP delivery

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote:

Mark Sapiro wrote:

 SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py.

That controls where you send to, but not what address Mailman binds to when 
it sends to that host/port.


Right. I misread the OP. It said I think the simplest would be if I
could control the address from which mailman sends it's mail, say if
mailman binds to 127.0.0.2 instead of 127.0.0.1 when it sends it's
mail.

I read that as ... control the address to which mailman sends ...,
thinking  that Karl would then change Postfix behavior based on the IP
the mail arrives at.

However, I too am puzzled as to why there are unqualified non-local
addresses to deal with at all.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting a bind address for SMTP delivery

2009-02-26 Thread Karl O. Pinc


On 02/26/2009 09:41:40 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:

Mark Sapiro wrote:


SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py.


That controls where you send to, but not what address Mailman binds  
to when it sends to that host/port.


As it turns out I set SMTPHOST to 127.0.0.2, and instead of
the usual smtp line in /etc/postfix/master.cf I've these 3 lines:


mypublicip:smtp   inet  n   -   -   -   -   smtpd
127.0.0.1:smtp  inet  n   -   -   -   -   smtpd
127.0.0.2:smtp  inet  n   -   -   -   -   smtpd  
-o
local_header_rewrite_clients=permit_tls_clientcerts -o  
relay_clientcerts=


The latter prevents address rewriting by requiring tls
authentication for rewriting and then preventing any
such authentication.

This is clunky.  Postfix is much happier when such
bad address rewriting is triggered by the client's
IP.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting a bind address for SMTP delivery

2009-02-26 Thread Karl O. Pinc


On 02/26/2009 09:52:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:


However, I too am puzzled as to why there are unqualified non-local
addresses to deal with at all.


Because the whole point of this particular application
of mailman is to receive and distribute mail from
a system over which I have no control that
is breaking the rules.

A Microsoft based system wouldn't you know.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Oliver Glueck



Mark Sapiro schrieb:

Oliver Glueck wrote:
  

thanks.
I have done all changes, but If I sent an email to a list,
I get an error message, because 'user unknown':

Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: Nachricht
about-du...@www.company.de:1 von 1 wird gelesen (2783 Bytes)
(Log-Meldung unvollständig)
Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
local recipient table

Why??

How can tell the server mail, that about-du...@localhost exists, without use
postfix/virtual?




It looks like fetchmail is trying to deliver to Postfix and Postfix is
replying

550 5.1.1 about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User
unknown in local recipient table


This has nothing to do with virtual maps because it is looking locally
for the address. It says there is no local alias for about-dummy.

Have you reloaded Postfix since you added
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases to alias_maps in main.cf?
  

Yes. And actually make a reboot!

Are the aliases actually in /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases and is
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db up to date? If not, try running
Mailman's bin/genaliases.
  

I've done this!
How have to look the mailman/data/aliases ?
I have this entries:
...
# STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Thu Feb 26 16:55:35 2009
mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman
# STANZA END: mailman

# STANZA START: about-dummy
# CREATED: Thu Feb 26 16:55:35 2009
about-dummy: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post about-dummy
about-dummy-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin 
about-dummy
about-dummy-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces 
about-dummy
about-dummy-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm 
about-dummy

about-dummy-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join about-dummy
about-dummy-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave 
about-dummy
about-dummy-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner 
about-dummy
about-dummy-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request 
about-dummy
about-dummy-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe 
about-dummy
about-dummy-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe 
about-dummy

# STANZA END: about-dummy

:-/ It dosn't work.
Perhaps, the open xchange configuration makes problems? But open xchange 
is here not

the mailing list - who has open xchange AND mailman installed?

Oliver

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oliver Glueck wrote:

Mark Sapiro schrieb:

 It looks like fetchmail is trying to deliver to Postfix and Postfix is
 replying

 550 5.1.1 about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User
 unknown in local recipient table


 This has nothing to do with virtual maps because it is looking locally
 for the address. It says there is no local alias for about-dummy.

 Have you reloaded Postfix since you added
 hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases to alias_maps in main.cf?
 
Yes. And actually make a reboot!


OK.


 Are the aliases actually in /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases and is
 /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db up to date? If not, try running
 Mailman's bin/genaliases.

I've done this!
How have to look the mailman/data/aliases ?
I have this entries:
...
# STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Thu Feb 26 16:55:35 2009
mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman=

mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailma=
n
# STANZA END: mailman

# STANZA START: about-dummy
# CREATED: Thu Feb 26 16:55:35 2009
about-dummy: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post about-dum=
my
about-dummy-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join about-dum=
my
about-dummy-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe=20
about-dummy
# STANZA END: about-dummy

:-/ It dosn't work.


What are ownership and permissions of /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
and /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db?

What are the Postfix log entries corresponding to the 

Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
local recipient table

fetchmail entry?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Oliver Glueck



Mark Sapiro schrieb:

Oliver Glueck wrote:
  

Mark Sapiro schrieb:


It looks like fetchmail is trying to deliver to Postfix and Postfix is
replying

550 5.1.1 about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User
unknown in local recipient table


This has nothing to do with virtual maps because it is looking locally
for the address. It says there is no local alias for about-dummy.

Have you reloaded Postfix since you added
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases to alias_maps in main.cf?

  

Yes. And actually make a reboot!




OK.


  

Are the aliases actually in /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases and is
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db up to date? If not, try running
Mailman's bin/genaliases.

  

I've done this!
How have to look the mailman/data/aliases ?
I have this entries:
...
# STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Thu Feb 26 16:55:35 2009
mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman=

mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailma=
n
# STANZA END: mailman

# STANZA START: about-dummy
# CREATED: Thu Feb 26 16:55:35 2009
about-dummy: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post about-dum=
my
about-dummy-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join about-dum=
my
about-dummy-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe=20
about-dummy
about-dummy-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe=20
about-dummy
# STANZA END: about-dummy

:-/ It dosn't work.




What are ownership and permissions of /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
and /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db?
  

-rw-rw  1 mailman mailman  1973 2009-02-26 18:05 aliases
-rw-rw  1 mailman mailman 12288 2009-02-26 18:05 aliases.db
What are the Postfix log entries corresponding to the 


Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
local recipient table

fetchmail entry?

  

/var/log/mail.err :
Feb 26 18:20:01 mail fetchmail[32117]: Nachricht 
about-du...@company.com@www.company.de:1 von 1 wird gelesen (2126 Bytes) 
(Log-Meldung unvollständig)
Feb 26 18:20:01 mail fetchmail[32117]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1 
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in 
local recipient table


/var/log/mail.log :
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail cyrus/lmtpunix[32530]: accepted connection
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail cyrus/lmtpunix[32530]: lmtp connection preauth'd as 
postman
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail cyrus/lmtpunix[32530]: 
verify_user(mail.intern.company.de!user.administrator) failed: Mailbox 
does not exist
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail postfix/lmtp[32529]: 56B0B97C2A0: 
to=administra...@mail.intern.company.de, 
relay=mail.intern.company.de[/var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp], delay=0.28, 
delays=0.13/0.01/0.05/0.09, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (host 
mail.intern.company.de[/var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp] said: 550-Mailbox 
unknown.  Either there is no mailbox associated with this 550-name or 
you do not have authorization to see it. 550 5.1.1 User unknown (in 
reply to RCPT TO command))


/etc/fetchmailrc:
set postmaster Administrator
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties 
set daemon 180
poll www.company.de with proto POP3
 user about-du...@company.com   there with password secret is 
about-dummy here ;


Here I tried
about-dummy / is here about-dummy
about-dummy / is here about-du...@testingtech.com
- same error.

*grmpf*
and now?

Bye
Oliver


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oliver Glueck wrote:

Mark Sapiro schrieb:

 What are the Postfix log entries corresponding to the 

 Feb 26 12:37:13 mail fetchmail[6236]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1
 about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
 local recipient table

 fetchmail entry?

   
/var/log/mail.err :
Feb 26 18:20:01 mail fetchmail[32117]: Nachricht 
about-du...@company.com@www.company.de:1 von 1 wird gelesen (2126 Bytes) 
(Log-Meldung unvollständig)
Feb 26 18:20:01 mail fetchmail[32117]: SMTP-Fehler: 550 5.1.1 
about-du...@localhost: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in 
local recipient table


Presumably this message results from fetchmail's attempt to deliver the
mail via SMTP to port 25 on the fetchmail machine, but I see nothing
in the Postfix log that relates to this delivery. Either you're not
showing it to me or fetchmail isn't delivering via this path.

Note that the cyrus and postfix entries below are from an attempt to
deliver to administra...@mail.intern.company.de, not to
about-du...@localhost. Also, fetchmail is reporting the failure at
18:20:01, so any postfix log entries related to this should be at that
time or earlier, not at 18:20:02.


/var/log/mail.log :
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail cyrus/lmtpunix[32530]: accepted connection
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail cyrus/lmtpunix[32530]: lmtp connection preauth'd as 
postman
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail cyrus/lmtpunix[32530]: 
verify_user(mail.intern.company.de!user.administrator) failed: Mailbox 
does not exist
Feb 26 18:20:02 mail postfix/lmtp[32529]: 56B0B97C2A0: 
to=administra...@mail.intern.company.de, 
relay=mail.intern.company.de[/var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp], delay=0.28, 
delays=0.13/0.01/0.05/0.09, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (host 
mail.intern.company.de[/var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp] said: 550-Mailbox 
unknown.  Either there is no mailbox associated with this 550-name or 
you do not have authorization to see it. 550 5.1.1 User unknown (in 
reply to RCPT TO command))

/etc/fetchmailrc:
set postmaster Administrator
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties 
set daemon 180
 poll www.company.de with proto POP3
  user about-du...@company.com   there with password secret is 
about-dummy here ;

Here I tried
about-dummy / is here about-dummy
about-dummy / is here about-du...@testingtech.com
- same error.

*grmpf*
and now?

Bye
Oliver


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation and domains - confused

2009-02-26 Thread Karl O. Pinc

Oliver Glueck's first post has the right config parameter,
but it still wouldn't hurt to verify what postfix
think's it's alias maps are:

# postconf | grep ^alias_maps
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases  
hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases


Likewise, in the verify assumptions category, it
would not hurt to see that postmap has the alias
entry:

# postmap -q about-dummy hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post about-dummy

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-02-26 Thread Savoy, Jim
George Bannerman wrote:

I've got a tricky problem on my mailman server.  Right now, I have
admin_immed_notify set to yes, but I'm not getting notifications when
there
are emails to approve.  I'm also not getting the once-a-day # list
moderator request(s) waiting either.  Forward messages (individually)
to:
doesn't work.  They all mysteriously stopped last Friday.

I'm running Exim version 4.50 #1, Mailman 2.1.5,  Python 2.3.5, and
Linux
version 2.6.16.13-xenU (Red Hat 4.0.2-8 running on Xen).


Reading this reminded me that I have a similar problem. All of our lists
are set by default to be admin_immed_notify=yes, but the list owners
only
get a message when something new arrives (that is put on hold). They
never
get a daily reminder about the queued-up stuff. Is this a known problem
for
v2.1.5 (we will be upgrading to v2.1.12 this summer). I have no idea how
long
this has been going on, and only remembered it because I own one of the
lists
and realized that I only get the one warning.

Thanks!

PS Our set-up:

RedHat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 6)
Python 2.3
Exim 4.69
Mailman v2.1.5



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[Mailman-Users] Pain, seeking Mailman/Postfix wisdom

2009-02-26 Thread John Jackson

Hi All:

Me:

 Solaris 10
 Postfix 2.4.6
 Mailman 2.1.12rc2
 Python 2.4.4
 postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py

I have: (2) domain names for the same host, of the form:

  namexxx.department.domain.tld (has an A and MX record)
  nameyyy.department.domain.tld (has a CNAME and MX record)

What I originally hoped for was to host some Mailman lists on my server 
and still have a handful of user accounts on the server be able to receive 
email directly.  Both the lists and the local users would have the same 
email address after the @, like so:


 list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

After studying things for a while it seemed clear that maybe Mailman is 
not supposed to do that, and that I'd need to add a level to the domain 
name for Mailman to take over for it's lists, like this?


 list...@lists.namexxx.department.domain.tld
 ^
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

But...

..adding that additional level ('lists') puts me at five levels.  I'm 
trying to keep things as simple looking as can for my users.  So, I 
thought what I could do instead is create a second host name for Mailman 
to use, like this:


 list...@nameyyy.department.domain.tld
 list...@nameyyy.department.domain.tld

 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

My 'pain' is coming from frustration and confusion trying to learn Postfix 
and Mailman well enough to figure out whether I can do any of this or not.


I've been mucking around in the configs of both and trying to follow 
examples and suggestions in the documentation and from information found 
by sifting through them Internets with Google ;)


Do any of you have a take on it you would be kind enough to share with me? 
Thanks very much, for any/all help or advice, comments, etc.


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[Mailman-Users] Subscribe results page - problem editing html

2009-02-26 Thread Mark McCanna
Hi, I am setting up a mailing list with mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 and I am 
having some difficulty changing the html on the;

Subscribe results page

At the end of the page I want to add links to go back to a page;

a href=www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.htmlBack to News/a

But mailman changes the link when you click on it and sends them to the page 
below, which doesn't exist.

http://lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/mailman/subscribe/www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.html


So the user gets an error.

I did read the documentation and I searched the FAQ. I found something about it 
in 2002 but the archive only shows the question and not the answer and I 
couldn't go back to earlier messages beyond 2008.

My ISP doesn't know the answer and have directed me here. 

Really sorry if this has been answered 5000 times but I can't find the answer.

thanks for any help. Mark

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe results page - problem editing html

2009-02-26 Thread Brad Knowles

Mark McCanna wrote:


Hi, I am setting up a mailing list with mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 and I
am having some difficulty changing the html on the;


First off, you're using cPanel.  See FAQ 6.11 at 
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+and+CPanel.



Second, Mailman scrubs all stuff that you type in via the web interface, so 
that you don't get any security violations as a result of stuff accidentally 
being misinterpreted as HTML.  Not all HTML is scrubbed out, but certain 
parts of HTML are.  So, there are some things you just can't customize from 
the web interface.


If you had privileged access to the shell on the machine where the list was 
hosted, you could go in and copy the appropriate template file to a suitable 
location and then edit it with a text editor (like vi, emacs, or 
pico), and save that file with all your HTML stuff intact.


However, since you're using CPanel, you almost certainly don't have access 
to the command-line on that server.  In that case, you'll need to talk to 
the CPanel administrators of that system and see if you can get their help 
to do what you need.


If you do have privileged access to the command-line shell on that system, 
then search the archives and the FAQ wiki for template.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Savoy, Jim wrote:

Reading this reminded me that I have a similar problem. All of our lists
are set by default to be admin_immed_notify=yes, but the list owners
only
get a message when something new arrives (that is put on hold). They
never
get a daily reminder about the queued-up stuff. Is this a known problem
for
v2.1.5 (we will be upgrading to v2.1.12 this summer). I have no idea how
long
this has been going on, and only remembered it because I own one of the
lists
and realized that I only get the one warning.


The daily summary is sent by cron/checkdbs.

Does mailman have a crontab? Does it have an entry to run cron/checkdbs
daily? Is crond running?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe results page - problem editing html

2009-02-26 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:57:25PM -0500, Mark McCanna wrote:
 Hi, I am setting up a mailing list with mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 and I am 
 having some difficulty changing the html on the;
 
 Subscribe results page
 
 At the end of the page I want to add links to go back to a page;
 
 a href=www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.htmlBack to News/a
 ^^ 
Therein lies your problem:

  - a href=www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.htmlBack to 
News/a
  + a href=http://www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.html;Back to 
News/a

HTML aspect, not Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe results page - problem editing html

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark McCanna wrote:

Hi, I am setting up a mailing list with mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 and I am 
having some difficulty changing the html on the;

Subscribe results page

At the end of the page I want to add links to go back to a page;

a href=www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.htmlBack to News/a


Try making this an absolute rather than a relative URL. I.e.
a
href=http://www.lakeshorechamberorchestra.ca/members/news.html;Back
to News/a

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Pain, seeking Mailman/Postfix wisdom

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Jackson 

  Solaris 10
  Postfix 2.4.6
  Mailman 2.1.12rc2
  Python 2.4.4
  postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py


Don't use postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py. There is no need, and it just
makes your situation more complex.


I have: (2) domain names for the same host, of the form:

   namexxx.department.domain.tld (has an A and MX record)
   nameyyy.department.domain.tld (has a CNAME and MX record)

What I originally hoped for was to host some Mailman lists on my server 
and still have a handful of user accounts on the server be able to receive 
email directly.  Both the lists and the local users would have the same 
email address after the @, like so:

  list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
  list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

  user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
  user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld


No problem.


snip


The whole point of postfix_to_mailman is to avoid requiring aliases,
but this doesn't work if you have both lists and local users in the
same domain. Mailman has a pretty good facility for automatically
maintaining list aliases for Postfix. See
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node13.html for how to set it
up. That's all you need to do.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Pain, seeking Mailman/Postfix wisdom

2009-02-26 Thread Brad Knowles

John Jackson wrote:


I have: (2) domain names for the same host, of the form:

  namexxx.department.domain.tld (has an A and MX record)
  nameyyy.department.domain.tld (has a CNAME and MX record)


First off, you can't mix CNAMEs and MX records.  That is prohibited by the 
RFCs, and most nameservers will refuse to load the entire zone if there is a 
single error like this.


Moreover, with regards to mail, things don't work as you would expect with 
CNAMEs.  Host names get re-written and all.


With regards to mail, you really, really need to stick to just pure A and MX 
records.  You can have some TXT or other info records, but for the basic 
types of records, stick to just A and MX.


What I originally hoped for was to host some Mailman lists on my server 
and still have a handful of user accounts on the server be able to 
receive email directly.  Both the lists and the local users would have 
the same email address after the @, like so:


 list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld


You can do that, but I don't think you can do it with 
postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py.  Take a look at the installation instructions at 
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/, especially the postfix-specific 
stuff at http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html.


My 'pain' is coming from frustration and confusion trying to learn 
Postfix and Mailman well enough to figure out whether I can do any of 
this or not.


Both Mailman and postfix have online documentation (see 
http://www.list.org/docs.html/ and 
http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html, respectively), as well as FAQs 
(see http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions and 
http://www.postfix.org/docs.html, respectively).


We also have an overall wiki page at http://wiki.list.org/, and a 
documents section underneath that (see http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Home).


Both groups also have mailing lists to support their software (see 
http://www.list.org/lists.html and http://www.postfix.org/lists.html, 
respectively).  You can find out how to search our archives via the 
instructions in FAQ 1.18 at 
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030520, and there are 
links to the searchable archives of the postfix-* mailing lists at that same 
URL listed above.


I've been mucking around in the configs of both and trying to follow 
examples and suggestions in the documentation and from information found 
by sifting through them Internets with Google ;)


These are the primary places to search, and we try to provide good links to 
other documents that we find online that have helpful information.


However, when you're dealing with two different pieces of software and 
trying to figure out how you can interface them, it can be difficult to get 
enough documentation in single place.  I find that I learn mostly by 
trial-and-error, with various documents sitting in front of me.


Do any of you have a take on it you would be kind enough to share with 
me? Thanks very much, for any/all help or advice, comments, etc.


I think the problem is that there is too much documentation, and it's hard 
to know where to start.  I believe the term is information overload.



Anyway, if you've got any questions that are not answered by the various 
sources listed above, please feel free to come back and tell us what you've 
searched for and what you've found so far, and what your problems are. 
We'll try to provide whatever help we can.


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[Mailman-Users] one list not sending to members

2009-02-26 Thread Anne M. Hammond

I recently created a list with 20 members, but the list is not
sending out to the members.

Other lists on this server are working fine.  This is mailman 2.1.9.

I stopped OutgoingRunner with SIGTERM, sent a post and posted a message
to the list, and dumped the database;

[r...@ice httpd]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/dumpdb 
/var/lib/mailman/lists/extremeintegration/pending.pck

[- start pickle file -]
- start object 1 -
{   '01a907bef54583bc21f0e71251a6c9d4487b9b84': ('H', 1),
'46199d354ea07e1ae152d9351a2b2d0426011528': ('H', 3),
'e57f046e3de424b7f2baf780da63e1f1a1d08880': ('H', 2),
'evictions': {   '01a907bef54583bc21f0e71251a6c9d4487b9b84': 
1235939067.2983739,
 '46199d354ea07e1ae152d9351a2b2d0426011528': 
1235950453.2800391,
 'e57f046e3de424b7f2baf780da63e1f1a1d08880': 
1235947591.233825},

'version': 2}
[- end pickle file -]

So I don't see anything here that is pending.

The list is not moderated.  All email should be sent automatically
to the 20 members.


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