[Mailman-Users] Dealing with spam
Henry Hartley writes: 1) What is the best practice approach to dealing with these messages? I have simply been discarding them. If I reject them, will that send a response back that might make an automated sender drop my list address from their list as a non-working address? Or is that wishful thinking? It's mostly wishful thinking. While there are high-quality spammers who cull their lists of non-existent addresses, they do this offline, not based on the results of a spew. Getting thousands or millions of rejections would slow down their spew. 2) Is there some way to automatically reject or discard mail with implicit destination rather than holding it for moderation? You could have a second to last rule in Privacy Spam Filters that *accepts* if your list name is present in a To or CC header, and a last rule that *discards* everything (I think that a regexp that consists of a single dot . can be used for this purpose). I agree there should be an easier way to do this, but I don't know what it is. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Sibling lists
Hi, Could anyone be of help in the setting up of mailman sibling lists. I currently have the below setup Parent list Sibling list Staff staff-info All-info Non-staff non-staff-info All-info This all works correctly except when a e-mail is sent to both the staff and non-staff parent lists. It results in the people on 'All-info' list receiving duplicate e-mails. I have tried adding the staff list into the regular_exclude_lists in the 'non-staff' list but this does not work Any help would be most appreciated. Regards Damion -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Will Mailman inform a sender of a bounced message that it was approved?
Hello, Is there a feature in Mail Man that would notify the sender of a message, when it bounces for moderation, to be informed when it is cleared by the moderator? This person is not a member of the list so could not tell if it is eventually delivered. Thanks. Jane. -- Jane Frizzell Network Services Administrator Bates College Information and Library Services jfriz...@bates.edu 786-6457110 Russell St -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help! Stuck Messages
I have a similar problem... I use a Virtual Dedicated server to host several domains with a number of Mailman lists on them. Every so often the traffic on the Mailman lists drops to a trickle or stops. Bounce volume and regular email is usually unaffected. I've given up trying to debug it, I just reboot the server and the flood-gates open. Sometimes the easiest solution/work-around is brute force... :-/ John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
HELP!! one of my lists has been hacked.. all members are moderated, except my own email address (m...@email.com) which I use to post to the list .. someone sent from my address to the list and all my subscribers has recieved a damn virus as an attachment!! but the 'From' name is not me, which means that the sender didn't use my email to send but used a kind of open-relayed server or something .. please help what should I do ??? _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
On May 27, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Khalil Abbas wrote: all members are moderated, except my own email address (m...@email.com) which I use to post to the list .. someone sent from my address the 'From' name is not me, Please clarify. Did the From line contain your email address (m...@email.com ) or not? You seem to be saying two different things. If, as I suspect, someone is merely forging your address to post to the list, there are two things that you can do (I would recommend that you do (1) as an immediate and temporary measure, until you can get (2) in place). (1) Moderate even your own postings, so that your list moderator password is required to post, even if from your own address. (2) Improve the spam/virus filtering on your mailserver. A forged message from an open relay containing a virus should have been stopped by your mail system long before it reached mailman. Cheers, -j -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Sibling lists
Hi, I currently have the below setup Parent list Sibling list Staff staff-info All-info Non-staff non-staff-info All-info This all works correctly except when a e-mail is sent to both the staff and non-staff parent lists. It results in the people on 'All-info' list receiving duplicate e-mails. I have tried adding the staff list into the regular_exclude_lists in the 'non-staff' list but this does not work Exclude/include is done if the list address appears explicitly on the To:/Cc: headers. You should write 'staff-info' and 'non-staff-info' in the regular_exclude_lists of 'All-info' and send a message 'To:staff-info,non-staff-info,All-info' to avoid duplicates. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkiku...@is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On May 27, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Khalil Abbas wrote: all members are moderated, except my own email address (m...@email.com) which I use to post to the list .. someone sent from my address the 'From' name is not me, Please clarify. Did the From line contain your email address (m...@email.com ) or not? You seem to be saying two different things. If, as I suspect, someone is merely forging your address to post to the list, there are two things that you can do (I would recommend that you do (1) as an immediate and temporary measure, until you can get (2) in place). (1) Moderate even your own postings, so that your list moderator password is required to post, even if from your own address. (2) Improve the spam/virus filtering on your mailserver. A forged message from an open relay containing a virus should have been stopped by your mail system long before it reached mailman. Two comments in addition to the above good advice. 1) Almost anyone can spoof your address in the From: of an email. This does not require an open relay server or anything fancy. Almost any MUA can do it. 2) That is why for announce lists we recommend moderating everyone and if you want to avoid moderation when posting, use an Approved: header to bypass moderation. See the FAQs at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9 and http://wiki.list.org/x/XIA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Will Mailman inform a sender of a bounced message that it was approved?
on 5/26/09 4:23 PM, Jane Frizzell said: Is there a feature in Mail Man that would notify the sender of a message, when it bounces for moderation, to be informed when it is cleared by the moderator? This person is not a member of the list so could not tell if it is eventually delivered. The standard version of Mailman can be configured to inform the sender that their message is being held for moderation, but there is no method I know of to configure it to notify the sender when the message has been released. I don't know what kind of source-code level modifications might be necessary to make that happen. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.org LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Odd Behavior
I'm not sure this is really a Mailman issue but at this point, I don't know where else to start. The problem stems from email to the root user. I have an alias set (postfix) to send mail for root to my administrator address. If it matters this address is in a different domain so the form of the alias is administra...@myotherdomain.com. Also, FWIW, this seems to have started when I upgraded from Mandriva 2007 to 2008.2. What is happening, is that mail to root is somehow being routed through Mailman. Each time something is sent to root, the following error email is generated: --- This is the mail system at host home.mydomain.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system mailman-loop:/var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-loop:/var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox mailman:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-bounces:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-confirm:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-join:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-request:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-subscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman@home.mydomain.com (expanded from root): unknown user: mailman-unsubscribe:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman . . . Reporting-MTA: dns; home.mydomain.com X-Postfix-Queue-ID: C0B9C85073 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; r...@home.mydomain.com Arrival-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 04:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman-loop:/var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox@home.mydomain.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; root Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: mailman-loop:/var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman@home.mydomain.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; root Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: mailman:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman@home.mydomain.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; root Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: mailman-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman-bounces:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman@home.mydomain.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; root Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: mailman-bounces:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman-confirm:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman@home.mydomain.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; root Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: mailman-confirm:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman-join:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman@home.mydomain.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; root Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: mailman-join:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman Final-Recipient: rfc822; mailman-leave:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave
Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 19:23, Khalil Abbas khillo...@hotmail.com wrote: HELP!! one of my lists has been hacked.. all members are moderated, except my own email address (m...@email.com) which I use to post to the list .. someone sent from my address to the list and all my subscribers has recieved a damn virus as an attachment!! but the 'From' name is not me, which means that the sender didn't use my email to send but used a kind of open-relayed server or something .. please help what should I do ??? Look at the headers and work out what really happened. Forging email addresses is trivial. It is the work of a few seconds to send an email with somebody else's email address. You can mitigate somewhat by using SPF and DKIM, but it does require that everybody checks your SPF and DKIM records - not everybody does. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Non-Member filter Notations
In Mailman 2.1.5 Under Privacy Options|Senders Filters non-member filters.. are regular expressions case sensitive ? -- Ferdinand Escudero Systems Administrator University of California San Diego Computer Science and Engineering Phone:858 822-6561 email:fer...@ucsd.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
