[Mailman-Users] Help?

2009-12-31 Thread Lark Burger
I've done something stupid, and I don't know how to get out of it.  I'm a 
moderator for the Knittingbeyondthehebrides group and I've accidentally banned 
a member.  I was half-awake and accidentally clicked on the permanent ban 
button instead of approving her.  Now I can't figure out how to get around that 
and approve the poor woman.  Can you help?  Is it possible to remove the ban 
from your end so that I may approve the membership?

Lark Burger

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Question

2009-12-31 Thread adam-mailman
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:48:32PM -0600, Chris Leleux wrote:
 This is probably a stupid question, but I'm having trouble setting up a new
 ListServ for a  client.

How about redirecting your question to the listserv list?

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[Mailman-Users] FW: listserv account vanished

2009-12-31 Thread Cichon, Joan L *HS
Hello,

My ListServ seems to have gone missing.  I keep emailing you to get assistance 
(see below) and can't seem to get an answer.  Please respond.

Thanks,
Joan

Joan Cichon
Instructional Design Coordinator
Cardiovascular Division
University of Virginia

Peace is not the absence of conflict, but the presence of creative 
alternatives for responding to conflict.  Dorothy Thompson

From: Cichon, Joan L *HS
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:50 AM
To: 'mail...@listserv.bnsi.net'
Subject: FW: listserv account vanished

Still can't find my ListServ.  Please respond.

Joan Cichon
Instructional Design Coordinator
Cardiovascular Division
University of Virginia

Peace is not the absence of conflict, but the presence of creative 
alternatives for responding to conflict.  Dorothy Thompson

From: Cichon, Joan L *HS
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:24 AM
To: 'mail...@listserv.bnsi.net'
Subject: listserv account vanished

http://listserv.bnsi.net/mailman/admindb/cardiovillage

Went to the list serv to check on my mailing list and can't find it.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joan

Joan Cichon
Instructional Design Coordinator
Cardiovascular Division
University of Virginia
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P.O. Box 800158
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Tel:  (434) 982-6407
Fax: 434-982-1998
http://www.uvarealm.comhttp://www.uvarealm.com/
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help?

2009-12-31 Thread Rob MacGregor
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 13:36, Lark Burger parrotm...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I've done something stupid, and I don't know how to get out of it.  I'm a 
 moderator for the Knittingbeyondthehebrides group and I've accidentally 
 banned a member.  I was half-awake and accidentally clicked on the permanent 
 ban button instead of approving her.  Now I can't figure out how to get 
 around that and approve the poor woman.  Can you help?  Is it possible to 
 remove the ban from your end so that I may approve the membership?

Note that this list is for support and assistance with GNU Mailman in
general, not specific installations.  Nobody here will be able to do
anything to your list for you.  I'm sure in due course however
somebody will be along who knows about Mailman to help you solve the
problem though.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help?

2009-12-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lark Burger wrote:

I've done something stupid, and I don't know how to get out of it.  I'm a 
moderator for the Knittingbeyondthehebrides group and I've accidentally banned 
a member.  I was half-awake and accidentally clicked on the permanent ban 
button instead of approving her.  Now I can't figure out how to get around 
that and approve the poor woman.  Can you help?


If you have access to the list's admin interface, go to Privacy
options... - Subscription rules and remove her address from the
ban_list.

If you only have assess to the moderator interface, contact the list
owner.


Is it possible to remove the ban from your end so that I may approve the 
membership?


We have nothing at all to do with the management of your list. You need
to contact the list owner or the service that hosts your list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: listserv account vanished

2009-12-31 Thread Rob MacGregor
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 21:01, Cichon, Joan L *HS
jl...@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu wrote:
 Hello,

 My ListServ seems to have gone missing.  I keep emailing you to get 
 assistance (see below) and can't seem to get an answer.  Please respond.

Cough that's GNU Mailman, not the trademarked ListServ as I'm sure
Mark will point out in a moment ;)

Also, this isn't mail...@listserv.bnsi.net but the mailing list for
users of Mailman.  Unless the administrators of that happen to lurk
here nobody can help you with that specific problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help?

2009-12-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-30 8:36 AM, Lark Burger wrote:
 Now
 I can't figure out how to get around that and approve the poor woman.
 Can you help?

Privacy options  Subscription rules  Ban list?

 Is it possible to remove the ban from your end so that I may approve
 the membership?

This is the general Mailman support list... only the person who controls
your particular Mailman installation can Administer your list(s).
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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: listserv account vanished

2009-12-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cichon, Joan L *HS wrote:

My ListServ seems to have gone missing.


Mailman is not ListServ[1] although perhaps you can be forgiven seeing
that even your hosting service doesn't know the difference.


I keep emailing you to get assistance (see below) and can't seem to get an 
answer.  Please respond.


mailman-users@python.org can't help you with this. The fact that uour
host doesn't know the difference between Listserv and Mailman suggests
that they also do not actually receive mail sent to
mail...@listserv.bnsi.net.

You will have to contact them in some other way.


[1] I know that use of Listserv(r) as a generic term to refer to an
email list or email list management software is ubiquitious, and I'm
just pissing in the wind to fight it, but Listserv(r) is a registered
trademark[2] owned by the developer of a particular email list
management product, and it shouldn't be used generically.

My personal interest in this is not to protect the Listserv(r)
trademark, but rather to avoid confusing Listserv(r) email list
management software with any other email list management software
including GNU Mailman of which I am a developer.

[2] http://www.lsoft.com/corporate/trademark.asp


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman forum ?

2009-12-31 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:26:01AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 Adam McGreggor writes:
   However, with those caveats, one should be able to use the same
   *database*, and Joomla/Kunena/Drupal/phpBB2 could all co-exist, in the
   same database, just using different database table prefixes, e.g.,
 
 I rather doubt that's what John wants.  I am guessing he wants *one*
 user database, *one* message database/archive, etc, etc 

LDAP FTW :)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman forum ?

2009-12-31 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:26:01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 
Adam McGreggor writes:

  However, with those caveats, one should be able to use the same
  *database*, and Joomla/Kunena/Drupal/phpBB2 could all co-exist, in the
  same database, just using different database table prefixes, e.g.,

I rather doubt that's what John wants.  I am guessing he wants *one*
user database,

You guess correctly. This is because my web hoster limits the number
of MySQL databases that one can have. From looking elsewhere that
doesn't appear uncommon with Australian hosters.

 *one* message database/archive, etc, etc, which
presents various different faces to users depending one whether they
access via mail, news, or forum.

Exactly correct.

That's why Barry is focusing on various kind of adaptors, so that
different functions can share certain databases.

Which will be a huge help IMO.  :-)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Question

2009-12-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes:

  [1] I know that use of Listserv(r) as a generic term to refer to an
  email list or email list management software is ubiquitious, and I'm
  just pissing in the wind to fight it,

Hey, the right to Do Things Right is why we're here, after all.  So,
you keep tilting at those windmills and I'll happily stand in front of
you and take the blowback. ;-)

Happy New Year to all the Mailman workers, and especially Barry, Mark,
Tokio, Terry, and Brad!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman forum ?

2009-12-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Adam McGreggor writes:
  On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:26:01AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
   Adam McGreggor writes:
 However, with those caveats, one should be able to use the same
 *database*, and Joomla/Kunena/Drupal/phpBB2 could all co-exist, in the
 same database, just using different database table prefixes, e.g.,
   
   I rather doubt that's what John wants.  I am guessing he wants *one*
   user database, *one* message database/archive, etc, etc 
  
  LDAP FTW :)

LDAP makes great sense for an existing organization that wants to
easily supply data about its members to the Mailman installation, but
AFAIK the existing implementations would not be a good choice for a
general backend, certainly not for the message archive, and probably
not for the user database, either.
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