Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filtering
Brad Knowles writes: IMO, Mailman should not re-sign. If there was anything that would sign the outgoing messages, that would be the MTA and not Mailman. But isn't that the problem? In the situation these methods are designed for, the MTA is signing mail for a trusted party, presumably a user (perhaps a system user such as root or cron) in the domain. (When forwarding, the origin's signature can just be passed on.) But in the case of a mailing list, the list manager has trust information that the MTA doesn't (list membership, for a leading example). So even if the MTA actually does the signing, it's Mailman's responsibility. Or, if Mailman is going to re-sign, then it should rename all but the minimum set of headers and then sign only the minimal set, in effect saying I scanned the message on inbound and it didn't look like spam to me, and the users requested that these messages be sent on to them, so here's the minimal stuff I trust about this message. It should also sign RFC 2369 headers, etc, too. (I assume that that's what you meant, but minimal could also mean as little as possible.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Questions regarding Mailman FW: Irexintl Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
Hello there! I will be using mailman to send out weekly digests to our staff globally. Is there a way to reconfigure the format to make it look more readable (Please see example below)? Also, can users send emails with attachments to be included in the digest? I'm assuming no, but please let me know if there is a loop hole around this. Thanks so much for your help! Jason Vuong Do New Media Coordinator | IREX | +1 (202) 628-8188 x113 | j...@irex.org | www.linkedin.com/in/jasonvuongdo | Skype: Jason.V.Do | Follow me! @jasondodo -Original Message- From: irexintl-boun...@info.irex.org [mailto:irexintl-boun...@info.irex.org] On Behalf Of irexintl-requ...@info.irex.org Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:34 PM To: irexi...@info.irex.org Subject: Irexintl Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 Send Irexintl mailing list submissions to irexi...@info.irex.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://info.irex.org/mailman/listinfo/irexintl_info.irex.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to irexintl-requ...@info.irex.org You can reach the person managing the list at irexintl-ow...@info.irex.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Irexintl digest... Today's Topics: 1. USG policy change: no more kittens as cost share (Keith Mellnick) 2. test post from Keith (Keith Berner) 3. test no. 2 (Keith Berner) 4. JVD: Test Story 2 (Jason Vuong Do) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:34:26 -0500 From: Keith Mellnick kmelln...@irex.org To: 'irexi...@info.irex.org' irexi...@info.irex.org Subject: [IrexIntl] USG policy change: no more kittens as cost share Message-ID: 52d2887f7ced084a8b52efbcd599c7c99772c34...@exchange2.irex.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all, turns out we need to make some big changes in our cost-share planning. State is no longer accepting kittens as cost share. Puppies and orangs are still legit but I don't know for how long. Full details here: http://bit.ly/6B9lpb. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://info.irex.org/mailman/private/irexintl_info.irex.org/attachments/20100105/321d327a/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:45:14 -0500 From: Keith Berner kber...@irex.org To: 'irexi...@info.irex.org' irexi...@info.irex.org Subject: [IrexIntl] test post from Keith Message-ID: 52d2887f7ced084a8b52efbcd599c7c99772aa5...@exchange2.irex.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Howdy! Keith Berner IT Projects Manager IREX International Research Exchanges Board 2121 K Street, NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20037 TEL: (202) 247-9457 FAX: (202) 628-8189 www.irex.orghttp://www.irex.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://info.irex.org/mailman/private/irexintl_info.irex.org/attachments/20100105/7b26f97a/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:01:58 -0500 From: Keith Berner kber...@irex.org To: 'irexi...@info.irex.org' irexi...@info.irex.org Subject: [IrexIntl] test no. 2 Message-ID: 52d2887f7ced084a8b52efbcd599c7c99772aa5...@exchange2.irex.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Trying again. Keith Berner IT Projects Manager IREX International Research Exchanges Board 2121 K Street, NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20037 TEL: (202) 247-9457 FAX: (202) 628-8189 www.irex.orghttp://www.irex.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://info.irex.org/mailman/private/irexintl_info.irex.org/attachments/20100105/9dab9414/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:10:37 -0500 From: Jason Vuong Do j...@irex.org To: 'irexi...@info.irex.org' irexi...@info.irex.org Subject: [IrexIntl] JVD: Test Story 2 Message-ID: 52d2887f7ced084a8b52efbcd599c7c99772b64...@exchange2.irex.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yemen shows frictions with US over terror fighthttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100105/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://info.irex.org/mailman/private/irexintl_info.irex.org/attachments/20100105/b730e35c/attachment-0001.html -- ___ Irexintl mailing list irexi...@info.irex.org http://info.irex.org/mailman/listinfo/irexintl_info.irex.org End of Irexintl Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 ** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable
[Mailman-Users] changing only the web interface url
Dear list, during a change in a domain name the follwoing has happened. - a list XXX was created with domain newdomain.org, that is the default domain. - I had lists on olddomain.org that I don't want to keep. - the list interface was redirected initially lists.olddomain.org - now I completed the set-up and redirected the web interface to lists.newdomain.org - admin login for XXX on lists.newdomain.org does not work, i believe because the web interface is still convinced to be on lists.olddomain.org I understand that if I use fix_url it will change both the web interface url and the list domain, which is something unwanted. So What I think I'll do is to make a command.txt file containing: web_page_url = 'http://lists.newdomain.org' and run config_list -i command.txt XXX this should change the web_page_url variable, right? I'm asking to the ML because if I run the config_list -o command I see that the web_page_url variable is used but never set and if I run with -i -c options it tells me that a non-standard parameter has been found named web_page_url. Mailman is debian stable standard version dpkg -l mailman ii mailman 1:2.1.11-11 thanks, leonardo. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Folkemusiklisten - Importing existing member to our new host
Hello mailman, We have resently changed our webhost and now I want to import our existing members to our new host. I can still login to the old admin site in mailman, and see a list of the old members (289 mail-adresses) But in our new folkemusiklisten I have to add them. Do I have to do that manually or is there a way to copy/paste the subscribers/members to our new webhost? Kind regards Martin ibsgaard The Danish Folk Council --- Folkemusikkens Fællessekretariat Saltholmsgade 22 8000 Århus C Tlf: +45 8676 1141 www.folkemusik.dk http://www.folkemusik.dk/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] TR: 4 Test moderator request(s) waiting
Hello, I receive everyday the email below but i don't know the adminpassword... Can you close the solumag.fr acompte please ? Thanks. Sincères salutations, Romuald Gabarel Tél : 04 74 80 58 14 Fax : 04 74 80 58 14 www.solumag.fr -Message d'origine- De : mailman-boun...@facverte.org [mailto:mailman-boun...@facverte.org] De la part de test-boun...@solumag.fr Envoyé : jeudi 18 février 2010 08:00 À : test-ow...@solumag.fr Objet : 4 Test moderator request(s) waiting The t...@solumag.fr mailing list has 4 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://lists.solumag.fr/mailman/admindb/test Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. Pending posts: From: chcas...@solumag.fr on Wed Dec 23 18:18:45 2009 Subject: Solumag - Joyeuses F?tes Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list From: chcas...@solumag.fr on Wed Dec 23 18:44:11 2009 Subject: Solumag - Joyeuses F?tes Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list From: newslet...@poker.fr on Mon Jan 4 14:20:01 2010 Subject: [Poker.fr] Bonne Ann?e ! Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list From: newslet...@poker.fr on Mon Feb 15 18:46:39 2010 Subject: [Poker.fr] Poker.fr c?l?bre son nouveau site en organisant la Poker.fr Cup ! Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2692 - Release Date: 02/16/10 19:35:00 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions regarding Mailman FW: Irexintl Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 18:55, Jason Vuong Do j...@irex.org wrote: Hello there! I will be using mailman to send out weekly digests to our staff globally. Is there a way to reconfigure the format to make it look more readable (Please see example below)? Also, can users send emails with attachments to be included in the digest? I'm assuming no, but please let me know if there is a loop hole around this. I'd be surprised if the FAQ doesn't cover it, but try using the MIME digests instead of the plain text one. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing only the web interface url
leonardo maccari wrote: I understand that if I use fix_url it will change both the web interface url and the list domain, which is something unwanted. fix_url changes the lists web_page_url based on DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and the provided urlhost argument or DEFAULT_URL_HOST, and it changes the lists host_name (email domain) to the email host corresponding to the provided urlhost per the add_virtualhost() mapping or to DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. Why is this not what you want? So What I think I'll do is to make a command.txt file containing: web_page_url = 'http://lists.newdomain.org' and run config_list -i command.txt XXX this should change the web_page_url variable, right? Yes, you can do this, and it will work. I'm asking to the ML because if I run the config_list -o command I see that the web_page_url variable is used but never set and if I run with -i -c options it tells me that a non-standard parameter has been found named web_page_url. config_list -o only outputs those settings which are visible in the admin GUI. config_list -i will set anything you give it, but if you give it a setting that isn't in the GUI it gives the non-standard parameter message, but it sets it anyway. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] TR: 4 Test moderator request(s) waiting
Romuald Gabarel wrote: I receive everyday the email below but i don't know the adminpassword... Can you close the solumag.fr acompte please ? We at mailman-users@python.org have no knowledge of or control over any Mailman lists at lists.solumag.fr. You will have to contact the administrators of that server for help with this. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Folkemusiklisten - Importing existing member to ournew host
Martin Ibsgaard wrote: We have resently changed our webhost and now I want to import our existing members to our new host. I can still login to the old admin site in mailman, and see a list of the old members (289 mail-adresses) But in our new folkemusiklisten I have to add them. Do I have to do that manually or is there a way to copy/paste the subscribers/members to our new webhost? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/aYA9 for ways to get a list of members from the old list. Once you have that list, you can paste it into the Membership Management... - Mass Subscription page of the new list. See also, the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/YoA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
Hi, Is there any reason why there is no gui in Mailman to add the lines needed to aliases fro sendmail? regards Steven -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
* Steven Jones steven.jo...@vuw.ac.nz: Hi, Is there any reason why there is no gui in Mailman to add the lines needed to aliases fro sendmail? That's something done ONCE at install time... -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
uh no, Its done per list when you create the list, so that's lots of command line additions, if I had a gui to do it I could allocate the work to the helpdesk and not a linux admin. regards Steven -Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+steven.jones=vuw.ac...@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+steven.jones=vuw.ac...@python.org] On Behalf Of Ralf Hildebrandt Sent: Friday, 19 February 2010 11:06 a.m. To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases * Steven Jones steven.jo...@vuw.ac.nz: Hi, Is there any reason why there is no gui in Mailman to add the lines needed to aliases fro sendmail? That's something done ONCE at install time... -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/steven.jones%40vuw.ac.nz -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
* Steven Jones steven.jo...@vuw.ac.nz: uh no, Its done per list when you create the list, so that's lots of command line additions, if I had a gui to do it I could allocate the work to the helpdesk and not a linux admin. Very odd, with Postfix I don't have to do that. Both use BerkeleyDB, so I wonder why this shouldn't be possible with Sendmail as well... http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030606 -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Steven Jones steven.jo...@vuw.ac.nz: uh no, Its done per list when you create the list, so that's lots of command line additions, if I had a gui to do it I could allocate the work to the helpdesk and not a linux admin. Very odd, with Postfix I don't have to do that. Both use BerkeleyDB, so I wonder why this shouldn't be possible with Sendmail as well... http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030606 Yes, that FAQ page points to ways that alias generation can be automated for sendmail, in particular the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/B4Au. To answer the OP's original question, yes there is a reason. The reason is sendmail's security which won't use aliases in files that are writable by other than root. Thus, you have to use one of the technique's in the FAQ which use either a cron run by root or a sudo command with appropriate entries in /etc/sudoers so the web server can run it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
On 18-Feb-2010, at 14:55, Steven Jones wrote: References: pc195201002171803250531f3243...@msapiro pc1952010021718151607963bbe0...@msapiro In-Reply-To: pc1952010021718151607963bbe0...@msapiro [...] Hi, Hi, please do not hijack someone else's thread when starting a new topic. Create a NEW message addressed to the list, not a reply to a previous message. You're breaking threading, and every time you do that a puppy dies. -- What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail - Aliases
Steven Jones writes: Is there any reason why there is no gui in Mailman to add the lines needed to aliases fro sendmail? Because nobody who needs it has bothered to write it, basically, and because AFAIK in standard installations of sendmail you need to be root to change the aliases file. We really don't want to be distributing half-baked scripts that need suid root, *especially not* if they're going to be executable from the GUI. We have enough CVEs already, we don't want any more. ;-) If you have Linux admins familiar with sendmail, surely one of them can write the necessary script? BTW, for Exim and Postfix, at least, as Ralf points out it's a one-time cost, at Mailman installation time. It should be possible to create a sendmail.cf that sets up addresses that match one of the very stylized addresses used by Mailman to forward to Mailman. If you want to do the Mailman/sendmail community a really big favor, put one of those Linux admins on that problem. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
