[Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9
Since implementing Mailman under OS X Server 10.5.7, I've been seeing… Jul 16 11:00:00 server-name com.apple.launchd[1] (0x1029d0.cron[1618]): Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/ kern) no access in the syslog, every 5 minutes, forever. I've traced it down to Mailman's gate_news chron job. I gather this relates to polling news servers (which I'm not doing), but beyond that I'm at sea. Anybody? Thanks, Bryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9
Steve, I was hoping to be polite and avoid the why is Mailman inflicting this antiquated utility on me? implication. ;) You have explained why I've no other such errors - there are no other crons on any of my servers. All my customizations are done via launchd. I'd be very grateful if you'd like to share your launchd.plist efforts. Replacing Mailman's crons went on my list as soon as I understood what was happening. It'd be a pleasure to eliminate the crons, since they strike me as inelegant by comparison. Thanks, Bryan To which I reply: This is because Apple has deprecated cron, and really wants you to use launchd instead. You'll see one of those messages for *everything* that cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones because they run so often. I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various Mailman cron jobs; if you want them, let me know. -- Steve Burling mailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9
Steve, Careful... You're going to end up with a fan club. At first glance, it looks like you've done a great job. Thanks much, Bryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman vs OSX vs launchd
I've built and installed Mailman 2.12 from current source code and have it running just fine under OS X Server 10.5.7, with on exception, which is not properly speaking a Mailman problem at all. If I start Mailman from the CLI, using /usr/share/mailman/bin/ mailmanctl -s start, all is well. If I allow launchd to start it using the following Launch Daemon… ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd plist version=1.0 dict keyLabel/key stringorg.list.mailmanctl/string keyOnDemand/key false/ keyProgram/key string/usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl/string keyProgramArguments/key array stringmailmanctl/string string-s/string stringstart/string /array keyServiceIPC/key false/ /dict /plist …I get an endless succession of… Jun 18 16:50:26 org.list.mailmanctl[1697]: Starting Mailman's master qrunner. Jun 18 16:50:26 com.apple.launchd[1] (org.list.mailmanctl[1697]): Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 1698 PPID 1 Python Jun 18 16:50:26 com.apple.launchd[1] (org.list.mailmanctl): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds …complete with dawn-of-the-dead respawning processes. I configured Mailman to replicate OSXS's default locations, and it runs fine. It doesn't even break Server Admin, aside from my use of virtual domains which ServerAdmin can't handle. The only difference between my org.list.mailmanctl.plist and Apple's is my verb *start*, as opposed to Apple's *startf*. I'm baffled by *startf*, which is not supported by mailman and does nothing, either in the CLI or in org.list.mailmanctl.plist. Obviously this isn't fatal and there are even other ways to insure an automatic startup, but I use launchd for such things, Apple more or less deprecates other approaches, and it drives me nuts not to understand what's going on. Speak, oh voices of wisdom! -Bryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Domains for Mailing Lists in MailMan
P.S. error is empty, and qrunner says Jun 15 16:01:12 2009 (7287) BounceRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7293) RetryRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7288) CommandRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7292) VirginRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7286) ArchRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7290) NewsRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7289) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Jun 15 16:01:13 2009 (7291) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Domains for Mailing Lists in MailMan
Mark,
Thank you.
I've found the resources you recommended helpful, but am stymied
nonetheless. I'm bright but not expert with Postfix or Mailman, and
have been butting my head against this for days.
As a test, I'm trying to install mailman on the server gilded-
bat.laughingboot.net, and create functioning lists mail...@laughingboot.net
and gal...@gurgitate.org. Virtual domains are humming along nicely
in both Apache and Postfix.
Mailman's processes run and I can browse the interface site, but all
my tests now bounce with:
|/usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman post galaxy@gilded-
bat.laughingboot.net:
data format error. Command output: |/usr/share/mailman/mail/
mailman post
galaxy: Bad protocol
If you're feeling particularly saintly, I've P.S.'d install_mailman.sh
below the very rough script I'm using to install and configure
mailman.
Relevant lines from main.cf are
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,hash:/var/mailman/data/
aliases,hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
virtual_mailbox_domains = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_domains
mm_cfg.pys looks like this:
# Include Defaults:
from Defaults import *
# Site-specific overrides:
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'laughingboot.net'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'gilded-bat.laughingboot.net'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('gurgitate.org', 'gurgitate.org')
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = 'gurgitate.org'
DEFAULT_MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE = 1 # KB
I'm running OS X Server 10.5.7.
I'll burn an SUV to the Gods on your behalf if you care to help me out.
Best regards,
Bryan
# !/bin/tcsh
# INSTALL MAILMAN TEST
# Last Updated: 2009-06-15
# Assumes prior installation of Xcode.
serveradmin stop mail
/usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop
rm -Rf /var/mailman/*
rm -Rf /usr/share/mailman/*
mkdir -p -m ug=rwx,o=rx /var/mailman
mkdir -p -m a+rx,g+ws /usr/share/mailman
chown _mailman:_mailman /var/mailman
chown _mailman:_mailman /usr/share/mailman
chmod -R 2777 /var/mailman
chmod -R 2777 /usr/share/mailman
mkdir -p /Library/TemporaryItems
cd /Library/TemporaryItems
curl -O
http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/mailman/mailman-2.1.12.tgz
tar -xzf mailman-2.1.12.tgz
cd mailman-2.1.12
# Pick One, anyone, none of them work:
# ./configure --prefix=/usr/share/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/
mailman --with-username=_mailman --with-groupname=_mailman --with-cgi-
gid=_www
# ./configure --prefix=/usr/share/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/
mailman --with-username=_mailman --with-groupname=_mailman --with-mail-
gid=_mailman --with-cgi-gid=_www --without-permcheck
./configure --prefix=/usr/share/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman
--with-username=_mailman --with-groupname=_mailman --with-mail-
gid=_postfix --with-cgi-gid=_www --without-permcheck
make
make install
chown _www:_mailman /var/mailman/archives/private
chmod o-r-x /var/mailman/archives/private
touch /var/mailman/data/aliases
touch /var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
scp #copy mm_cfg.py from where I'm working on it to its proper home.
/usr/share/mailman/bin/newlist -q mailman br...@laughingboot.net
mypassword
/usr/share/mailman/bin/config_list -i /var/mailman/data/sitelist.cfg
mailman
/usr/share/mailman/bin/newlist -q galaxy br...@gurgitate.org mypassword
/usr/share/mailman/bin/config_list -i /var/mailman/data/sitelist.cfg
galaxy
/usr/share/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url galaxy --
urlhost=gurgitate.org
cd /usr/share/mailman/bin
./genaliases
serveradmin start mail
./mailmanctl -s start
./check_perms -f
rm -R /Library/TemporaryItems/
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Domains for Mailing Lists in MailMan
Mark,
Oooh! Aaah! Happy dance!
It works.
Thanks for being so generous with your expertise. Cleaning up my
fuzzy ideas has been a pleasure.
A minor puzzle, just in case you're interested:
You'll be unsurprised that I found virtual_mailbox_domains and
virtual_alias_domains will fight over any domain common to both.
Since OS X Server is dependent on virtual_mailbox_domains , I did my
usual blind monkey try-this-and-that and discovered it works fine
without virtual_alias_domains. I won't pretend to understand, but am
wondering if I've created something that will be less than robust.
And one more question, if you don't mind:
In addition to hosting lists for virtual domains, I need to host
listname at the address listn...@laughingboot.net on the server gilded-
bat.laughingboot.net. Is this sufficient?
# mm_dfg.py
# 2009-06-16
# Include Defaults:
from Defaults import *
# Site-specific overrides:
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'laughingboot.net'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'gilded-bat.laughingboot.net'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('gurgitate.org', 'gurgitate.org')
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = 'gurgitate.org'
DEFAULT_MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE = 1 # KB
I've read that I need to do this as well…
# /etc/postfix/virtual
# 2009-06-09
laughingboot.netIGNORE
@laughingboot.net @mail.laughingboot.net
…but feel like a cargo cult member worshipping a ball point pen when I
look at it. Of course gilded-bat.laughingboot.net needs to continue
to handle non-mailing list mail for laughingboot.net as well.
Thanks again,
Bryan
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