Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing site domain name

2006-10-07 Thread Chris Puttick
On 06/10/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris Puttick wrote:

 Ok, the problem:
 
 http://lists.openarchaeology.net/mailman/listinfo
 
 compared with
 
 http://lists.openarchaeology.net/mailman/listinfo/mailman
 
 mm_cfg:
 
 from Defaults import *
 
 ##
 # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
 DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
 DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'lists.openarchaeology.net'
 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.openarchaeology.net'
 DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.openarchaeology.net'
 MTA = 'Postfix'
 POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
 POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'
 DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
 SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
 SMTPPORT = '25'
 VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
 add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
 IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/'
 
 Any thoughts?


 I suspect that adding

 VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off

 to the above will fix the symptom. If it does, the underlying problem
 is that your web server is setting HTTP_HOST (or if HTTP_HOST is
 unset, SERVER_NAME) to '10.0.10.18' in the environment passed to the
 Mailman CGIs.

Ok, that works. However, AFAICT neither HTTP_HOST nor SERVER_NAME are
explicitly set. Setting what I think is the SuSE 10.1 equivalent,
APACHE_SERVERNAME (in /etc/sysconfig/apache) does not fix the problem,
but does result in Apache generated documents showing
lists.openarchaeology.net as its root:

http://lists.openarchaeology.net/nopagehere

 If that doesn't do it, try the following:

 In the Mailman install directory, give the command

 bin/withlist -i

 Then at the first  prompt type

 from Mailman import Utils

 at the next prompt type

 Utils.get_domain()

Interesting. Following these steps gets me:
 Utils.get_domain()
'lists.openarchaeology.net'


Now I'm confused...

I'll use the VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off setting for now as I'm not
assuming this list server will ever be used to hosts lists for
something other than the openarchaeology domain. Happy to try other
fixes in the interest of furthering human knowledge ;-).

 and see what it prints. Then type control-D to exit.

 You can also try setting HTTP_HOST in the environment and then
 repeating the above.

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Cheers

Chris


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[Mailman-Users] Changing site domain name

2006-10-06 Thread Chris Puttick
Hi

Now I know this will sound like a didn't read the archives and/or
didn't read the FAQ but I did and no solution suggested for similar
problems worked. In particular

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp

does not fix the problem:

Mailman has been installed on a dedicated clean built box. All lists
correctly refer to the actual FQDN of the server in both web and mail
addresses and the list server is functional in most respects. However
the root/master/? (a better name escapes me but default iseems
inappropriate, given it is a correctly configured variable) domain of
the installation is stubbornly remaining as the IP address of the
machine. I wouldn't mind so much, except the machine is in a DMZ and
has a non-routeable IP...

All suggestions (other than the entries in the FAQ I've already read
and tried ;-) ) welcome.

Cheers

Chris


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing site domain name

2006-10-06 Thread Chris Puttick
Non-routeable as in private address behinded a NATed proxying
firewall; the problem is seen if you go to any of the generic pages
e.g. lists.my.tld/mailman/listinfo, where the server instead of
referring to itself as lists.my.tld refers to itself as ip.ad.dr.ess -
if you go to a list specific page the URLs are as expected, except the
link for the overview page, which reads correctly as
lists.my.tld/mailman/listinfo but links to
ip.ad.dr.ess/mailman/listinfo.

URLs are also as expected in emails, as are email addresses. Like I
say, the list server functions properly, except for this insistence of
using the IP address in the base URLs.

Chris

On 06/10/06, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 2:05 PM +0100 10/6/06, Chris Puttick wrote:

 However
   the root/master/? (a better name escapes me but default iseems
   inappropriate, given it is a correctly configured variable) domain of
   the installation is stubbornly remaining as the IP address of the
   machine.

 Where are you seeing this issue?  Is it in the URLs that the users
 visit when they go to the web pages for the list?  Is it in the
 e-mail addresses that the users see when the messages are delivered?

I wouldn't mind so much, except the machine is in a DMZ and
   has a non-routeable IP...

 If it's a non-routeable IP address, I don't see how anyone is getting
 to the web pages or getting e-mail to/from the box.  But either way,
 I would not be at all surprised if this was the problem.  Well, this
 and reverse DNS obviously being broken.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing site domain name

2006-10-06 Thread Chris Puttick
Ok, the problem:

http://lists.openarchaeology.net/mailman/listinfo

compared with

http://lists.openarchaeology.net/mailman/listinfo/mailman

mm_cfg:

from Defaults import *

##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'lists.openarchaeology.net'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.openarchaeology.net'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.openarchaeology.net'
MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
SMTPPORT = '25'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/'

Any thoughts?

Chris


On 06/10/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris Puttick wrote:

 the problem is seen if you go to any of the generic pages
 e.g. lists.my.tld/mailman/listinfo, where the server instead of
 referring to itself as lists.my.tld refers to itself as ip.ad.dr.ess -
 if you go to a list specific page the URLs are as expected, except the
 link for the overview page, which reads correctly as
 lists.my.tld/mailman/listinfo but links to
 ip.ad.dr.ess/mailman/listinfo.


 What is your mm_cfg.py setting for DEFAULT_URL_HOST?

 Also, check your webserver config. Particularly, that thing which in
 apache looks like

 RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$   http://example.com/mailman/listinfo

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[Mailman-Users] Thanks

2002-05-01 Thread Chris Puttick
Title: Thanks





To everybody who's contributed to the development of this package: nice work :-)


No questions, no problems, just neat.


I'd be very willing to contribute my time in the future to documentation (I'd love to help with coding, but it's not my area...). Let me know if I can be of use.

Regards


Chris Puttick
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