[Mailman-Users] Block attachments before testing for non-member
Many things show up as mail from non-member which contain nothing but a forbidden attachment. Can we run through the content filter BEFORE testing for membership so that this cr*p just gets discarded? Thanks, /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Investigating Bounces
I have several list owners with large lists. They get a bunch of bounces each time they mail. Occasionally, they get lots more bounces than they expect. Is there any way to get Mailman to save the reason for the bounce? The bounce log contains only the list name, email address and the bounce score. I can infer whether the bounce was hard or soft by whether the score increased by 1.0 or 0.5. There is no way to tell if the bounce was mailbox full or no such user or perhaps horrors my SMTP server was refused because it's become blacklisted somewhere. It's not even possible to tell if the bounce came from the distant SMTP server or my local one. How do others deal with this situation? /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Code for allowing web-based delete and create lists
I just went through this... Mailman allows for creation of lists by going to http://webaddress/mailman/create If you enable the proper variable, you can delete a list from it's admin page. For postfix, there is some good integration between mailman and postfix. Note that for sendmail, you need to do a manual process to enable the list addresses in the alias file. There is an automation in the contrib directory which permits the integration you would expect, but it has several caveats. Read carefully. I recently did a hack to give postfix-style automation to the mailman/sendmail interface and posted a procedure here, requesting feedback. Didn't get any, so I'm not sure if it's got serious problems. I don't create lists very often, but it works for me and for one customer for whom I installed it. Check the archives for a posting called Please review this procedure for sendmail integration which was posted on 6/19/2004. /edg --On Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:04 PM -0400 Paul L. Della Maggiora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, we run a non-profit server that includes mailman for our users. Is there a web interface for allowing the creation or deletion of lists? Couldn't find anything except the ~mailman/bin commands. TIA -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Please review this procedure for sendmail integration
Since many people cannot use David Champion's mm-handler due to shared use of domains, I've worked this up. I'd appreciate some constructive comments, yea or nay, on this procedure. Using the postfix MTA functionality to do automatic sendmail alias handling --- In order to add a list to mailman on a sendmail based system, you need to add a bunch of aliases for that list to the alias file. In this customization, we implement a second alias file and teach sendmail about it. We use a mailman feature that was designed for the postfix mail program - a replacement for sendmail. This feature creates /home/mailman/data/aliases 1. We have a script that will copy the alias file and then process it. We need to do this since sendmail doesn't like alias files to be in directories that don't meet very specific permission requirements. /home/mailman/data doesn't meet this requirement. Our script will copy the alias file from /home/mailman/data to /etc. It uses a different name in order not to clash with the existing /etc/aliases Create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with these commands: /bin/cp /home/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases 2. We have to tell mailman that it is using postfix. We lie. Add these to mm_cfg.py: MTA='Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [] 3. We have to tell sendmail about the new alias file. in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc find this line: define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl and change it to: define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases,/etc/mailman.aliases')dnl Run a make (or otherwise refresh sendmail.cf and then restart sendmail Now when we run newaliases, it will rebuild both alias files. 4. We need permission for apache and mailman to run our script from step 1. In the /etc/sudoers file (use the command /usr/sbin/visudo) we need two lines: apache ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases mailman ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases Note that your web server may not run as 'apache' It may run as 'www' or 'nobody'. Whatever it runs as is what you need where it says apache. 5. As mailman, run /home/mailman/bin/genaliases Check for a file /home/mailman/data/aliases and also TWO files /etc/mailman.aliases and /etc/mailman.aliases.db 6. Test creating a list using /home/mailman/bin/newlist Check for the appearance of aliases for that list in /etc/mailman.aliases Add some users and test the list 7. Test for creating a list using http://domain.com/mailman/create Check for the appearance of aliases for that list in /etc/mailman.aliases Add some users and test the list Ed Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/19/2004 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Add digest members
Thanks to all for the suggestions. On most of my lists, on my own server, I
would just use the command line. The list in question is on somebody else's
server. I talked him into moving from ezmlm to mailman, and I don't want to
bother him more than necessary.
Thanks,
/edg
--On Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:16 AM -0400 Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
Ed Greenberg wrote:
I know that I can add a file-full of digest members from the command
line, but can I do so from the web GUI? I don't see how, on the Mass
Subscribe page. Am I missing something?
Nope. There's no option for this now that I know of. Rod's technique
is the most viable if you don't have command line access. If you do
this a lot and want to add an option like this to the web gui, it'd be
pretty easy. Something like the below patch would get you an option
to do this.
- --- mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py~ Wed Dec 24 12:27:45 2003
+++ mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py Mon May 17 23:31:53 2004
@@ -1158,6 +1158,15 @@
])
table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, bgcolor=GREY)
table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 1, bgcolor=GREY)
+table.AddRow([
+Label(_('Subscribe these users for digest delivery?')),
+RadioButtonArray('subscribe_as_digest',
+ (_('No'), _('Yes')),
+ mlist.digest_is_default,
+ values=(0, 1))
+])
+table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, bgcolor=GREY)
+table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 1, bgcolor=GREY)
table.AddRow([Italic(_('Enter one address per line below...'))])
table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, colspan=2)
table.AddRow([Center(TextArea(name='subscribees',
@@ -1307,7 +1316,7 @@
# Default is to subscribe
subscribe_or_invite = safeint('subscribe_or_invite', 0)
invitation = cgidata.getvalue('invitation', '')
- -digest = mlist.digest_is_default
+digest = safeint('subscribe_as_digest', mlist.digest_is_default)
if not mlist.digestable:
digest = 0
if not mlist.nondigestable:
- --
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question
I'm not sure how this would protect members who had opted out from being added again though. /edg --On Monday, May 17, 2004 8:32 PM +0200 Hilton J Ralphs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Randy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to see it work like this: 1. I download file from CRM software of emails. 2. I upload them or cut an paste to mailman 3. if the email is already in the list it does not add them again and if they chose to opt out before it would not add them again as well. 4. Also if the email is bad it would be nice if it would not add it to mailman as well. Would mailman be able to accommodate the above? Mailman has a program called sync_members that will do exactly what you require. You could get clever and automate the CRM extraction to the same file every time, conveniently placed on a share accessible to mailman. Then set-up a crontab job to sync that file with the mailman database. It will remove mailman users that don't appear on the list and add new ones accordingly. Should work to the tee. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mass Add digest members
I know that I can add a file-full of digest members from the command line, but can I do so from the web GUI? I don't see how, on the Mass Subscribe page. Am I missing something? /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?
You could deliver the mail to a script that extracts the subject and body and then reposts it to the list, coming from a generic user. If you want to restrict posting to members, you could look up the actual from address in the list before forwarding the post. Would that meet your needs? /edg --On Friday, May 07, 2004 1:10 PM -0400 Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list. Now, we have a reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator (poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail. Obviously, anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level? Any help appreciated. For completeness, I believe I have followed the FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. correctly... Maybe not? Thanks, Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Changing the web_page_url parameter
Is it possible to change the web_page_url parameter using the mailman/admin/listname website? If so, where... I don't see it. If not, how do I change it? Thanks, /edg Ed Greenberg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird domain action
Check your configuration, on the General page. Down toward the bottom you'll find Domain this list prefers for email. Make sure that doesn't have www in it. /edg --On Tuesday, May 04, 2004 1:09 PM -0500 Brian O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a web and mail server set up with the domain name osdlc.org. We are also trying to set up a mail list, but the server keeps adding www. to our mail list address. For example, i want to set up a mail list entitled [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the list comes out with the address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two questions: How do I get that www off the list address? If that can not be done: how can I alter my DNS to account for the www that is added? Thanks in advance. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page ? FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Listinfo page for one list
Many thanks to Dan and Todd. I knew this was hiding somewhere, but couldn't figure out where. /edg --On Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:37 PM -0800 Ed Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my listowners raises a valid question. She has a list that is used for publishing a newsletter. No posting is allowed by anybody but the owner. When one visits the listinfo page, one sees the usual to post a message to all members send an email to info. I'd like to create a separate templates/en/listinfo.html for her list. Is there a good way to do this, other than redefining one of the languages (or adding a new language)? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Modifying Listinfo page for one list
One of my listowners raises a valid question. She has a list that is used for publishing a newsletter. No posting is allowed by anybody but the owner. When one visits the listinfo page, one sees the usual to post a message to all members send an email to info. I'd like to create a separate templates/en/listinfo.html for her list. Is there a good way to do this, other than redefining one of the languages (or adding a new language)? Thanks, /edg Ed Greenberg San Jose, CA -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Messed up list, want to transfer the users
I have a messed up list and I can't figure out how it got messed up, but it is. The symptom is that messages held for moderation are being lost, and the list is sending uncaught bounces with the admin messages in them. I've been over the permissions, the settings, the contents of config.db, all to no avail. I've posted here, also to no avail. What I'd like to do is to delete the list and recreate it, then add the users back. I can extract a list of users and re-add them, but I cannot figure out how to save their settings (such as digest and nomail). Is this possible, or should I just tell them that their options are going to be lost. /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messed up list, want to transfer the users
This is excellent advice. Thank you. I'm using Mailman 2.1, and plan to u/g to 2.1.1 as well. You stated, do what you wish with the nomail people. I suppose I have to add them as mail-recipients and then set nomail by hand. There shouldn't be too many of them :) Thanks. /edg --On Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:53 PM -0500 Matthew Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ed Greenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What I'd like to do is to delete the list and recreate it, then add the users back. I can extract a list of users and re-add them, but I cannot figure out how to save their settings (such as digest and nomail). Is this possible, or should I just tell them that their options are going to be lost. The easy way would be to tell them all options will be lost. But if you want a bit more work, you could save that info. Just will take a few extra steps. You didn't say which mailman you use, which only means the -f option won't be availiable on mailman 2.0.x (which is to preserve the full name), so this information is based on mailman 2.0.13 This gives you all the regular (non-digest) members in a file called regular.members # bin/list_members -rpo regular.members LISTNAME This will put the digest members in digest.members # bin/list_members -dpo digest.members LISTNAME If your using mailman 2.1 then you can get the nomail users # bin/list_members -npo nomail.members LISTNAME Then you can readd them using bin/add_members And I'll give you mailman 2.1.1 examples since now would be a good time to upgrade if your redoing the list. Highly recommended upgrading to 2.1.1 # bin/add_members -r regular.members LISTNAME # bin/add_members -d digest.members LISTNAME And you can do what you wish with the nomail people. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Freedom defined is freedom denied. -The Illuminatus -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/edg%40greenberg.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notifications
Since upgrading to 2.1, I've been receiving this Uncaught Bounce Notification. It says: The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://mailman.listbase.net/mailman/admin/rovingfriends/bounce The attachment says: The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 4 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://mailman.listbase.net/mailman/admindb/rovingfriends Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. Pending posts: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon Jan 20 18:46:02 2003 Cause: Too many recipients to the message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon Jan 20 19:14:01 2003 Cause: Too many recipients to the message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon Jan 20 19:15:02 2003 Cause: Too many recipients to the message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat Jan 25 12:27:01 2003 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list There are no posts pending. Since there is no header info in the bounce I can't tell what's generating this. Any clue? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List-* headers
Now that 2.1 has -subscribe and -unsubscribe addresses as well as a -request address shouldn't the headers of the lists carry an appropriate List-Subscribe and List-Unsubscribe header? Mine (and this list's) still show the older format of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe How do I fix? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] RedHat 7.3, Python 1.5 and Mailman 2.1
Mailman 2.1 requires Python 2, and RedHat 7.3 has only 1.5. There is a Python2 package on my RedHat 7.3 installation, so how can I make Mailman use it? Documentation states that I can use --with-python to control the actual mailman operation, but that the command line scripts will always use the first python on the path. Both python and python2 live in /usr/bin. Has anybody been down this path, and how did you get the command line scripts to use python2? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: RedHat 7.3, Python 1.5 and Mailman 2.1
--On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:28 AM -0600 David Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mailman 2.1 requires Python 2, and RedHat 7.3 has only 1.5. There is a Python2 package on my RedHat 7.3 installation, so how can I make Mailman use it? It's pretty easy ... Documentation states that I can use --with-python to control the actual mailman operation, but that the command line scripts will always use the first python on the path. Both python and python2 live in /usr/bin. This is the key ... add '--with-python=/usr/bin/python2' to the configure command line. Then 'make clean make make install'. david Works. The scripts even find the python2 executiable, just fine. The doc intimated that the command line scripts wouldn't run. Well, off to configure... Thanks, /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL subscriber bounces
I have this problem too, though it's not severe, and frankly, the guy being blocked is moderately awful, so would be pretty bad to a less insensitive person than myself :) I prefer that they can block each other, since it keeps them from responding to each other and flaming. I also would rather though that the sender got the bounce, so that he would know he was being dissed :) So I'm also interested in the answer. Currently running 2.0.?? but migrating to 2.1 as we speak :) /edg If it was my list, I would just write the AOL users and ask them to remove the block, and if they don't you'll have to unsubscribe them. -- Raquel -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Posting from a web form
Is there a way to implement posting from a web form (for list members authenticated with their passwords)? Some of my members are asking for this. The list is an Recreational Vehicles list, and they want to read archives, and post message, from public Internet stations in cafes and libraries. Has anybody done this? Thanks, /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
