Re: [Mailman-Users] Hey
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 10:58:48PM +0200, Robert Meyer wrote: Hey, i have SMTP Auth work at my Linux-System. Does mailman work with this? Mailman doesn't do SMTP AUTH, nor does it really need to Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] nested lists
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 01:55:08PM -0700, Larry Guest wrote: I will be setting up mailman using lists to send mail to lists. I only want lists members to be able to post. So mailman needs to look down the chain of lists and make sure that the right people can posts to the list. It must be able to do this but I am not 100% sure what to change in the config so it works. As an example user1 needs to post to the corp-eng department for which he is a member in the corp-eng-ca office. The post needs to hit everyone in the corp-eng lists. The architecture will look like this. You can't really do this. Your best workaround is to dump the list membership of all sublists, and subscribe all the members to the main list (do it with cron) In that scenario, the mail would not trickle down to the sublists, it would go to the users directly Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing large archives ... design limit hit, and possible bug
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 09:35:38PM -0400, Scott Courtney wrote: Hi, folks I think I have found a bug in bin/arch, but I imagine someone has found it before. Also, I have run into an architectural limit and would like to change a constant to fix it, if possible. As you found out, there are some issues with bin/arch This works, though it is cumbersome and slow. I'm not a Python guru but do know C. I'm running on a machine with *lots* of RAM. Can someone point me to which module I need to edit so that I can increase the constant for an array size somewhere such that this thing will handle more than 80 messages? I figure if I know where to look I can puzzle out the code enough to make a simple change like that. But it will take days to find it in code of an unfamiliar language with many modules. It's not a constant, but arch has issues in some cases with some messages. I haven't run it recently on a full mailbox, but it does chew a *lot* of ram, and at least used to die on some messages. I'll make this proposal: Someone point me in the right direction to solve this thing. When I've got it working, I'll write an entry to submit for the FAQ to document this for the next person, as a way of contributing to the Mailman user community. Unfortunately, I haven't played with that code, and few people have. It's there, but it's pretty much unmaintained. I did some investigation and have found that the problem occurs when a normal text line in the body of a message happens to begin with the string From . It appears bin/arch is not being very smart about recognizing the beginning of a new message. I think what is needed is to add a more detailed parsing regexp to the code that determines where one message ends and another begins. That's true. You should probably run ~mailman/bin/cleanarch on the mailbox first. I'm not sure why that functionality isn't rolled inside arch BTW, I'm talking about mailman 2.1b2. Mailman 2.0 is another can of worms, and arch will probably not be fixed further. Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Main
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:26:41AM -0600, Ryan Schouten - ABCOffice wrote: Does your software handle bounce backs? mailman 2.0: somewhat mailman 2.1b2: yes, if you enable VERP In both cases, however, it won't work as well as Ezmlm Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-To option, Author Name and Archives
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:35:02AM -0600, Chris Wiegand wrote: Here, all of my users are Windows users, and non-technical ones at that. I read on that sourceforge page: For the remaining people who do not want two copies and can't remove duplicates on their side, the next version of mailman will allow on a per user basis, to not receive a copy of a post if you were already Cced in the mail headers. So, where is this feature in 2.1? I'd love to play with it, if I can. It's called nodupes and it's enabled by default. (it's a per user option) Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-To option, Author Name and Archives
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 01:09:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While there seems to be a bug, note that: Since this is a discussion list, it's useful to have the Reply-To: option set up as This List. Note that this is a common misconception. It's all between the brain and the fingers... http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6693group_id=1 Very few of us use the reply-to munging misfeature, so it's not as well tested. Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple reply-to adresses?
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:05:12AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: Yo! Mailman (stable - 2.0.9-1 Debian pkg) seems to not allow multiple adresses in a Reply-To: field (set via web interface as explicit return address), while many mailers do not have a problem with it. Are there any (good ;) reasons against multiple Reply-To addresses? That's fixed in mailman 2.1b2 Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key msg10408/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Mailman-Users] Searchable archives
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:20:11PM -0500, Bob Stout wrote: Has anyone done any work on searchable archive, preferably with a web interface? Look in the archives of this list, or in the patch manager on sf.net for the htdig integration patch Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail loop for digest members
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:42:42PM -0400, wayne wrote: My ISP is running version 2.01 of Mailman on their Linux 7.2 box. Lots of bugs were fixed since that version. You should ask your ISP to upgrade to 2.0.11 Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 06:37:31PM -0400, Tony O wrote: Is there a limit to the number of subscribers the Mailman mailing list can have? No, but the web interface gets noticeably slower when you start having several tens of thousands. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-web interface
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:14:17PM -0500, Bob Stout wrote: I have a few users without web access. I know there's some sort of email interface to Mailman, but I haven't been able to locate any documentation on it. Help anyone? send help to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Inaccessible archives
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:17:51PM -0500, Bob Stout wrote: According to the administration docs, if the list is in use and Options FollowSymLinks is enabled, then users should be able to get to the archives. Yet, everyone who tries gets the message, You don't have permission to access /pipermail/diyspeakers/ on this server. I checked the file permissions, and they appeared to be OK. Any ideas? Check your apache error logs Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] slow web administration
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Tremaine Lea wrote: Hey there folks, Not sure if anyone else has run across this issue, but it's slowly driving me batty. I currently have mailman 2.0.9-1 running on a Xeon 800 with 500 megs of ram. It has a single mailing list with roughly 450,000 subscribers. I've found that accessing the web interface for administration is incredibly slow. Is there any way to speed that up, or to handle There are lots of linear scans, and yes it will be slow. The only way to speed that up is to revisit the code. Porting users to a DB however shouldn't be too hard, Barry did use a base object that has methods you can override. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings from Northeastern Argentina's
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 07:29:16PM -0300, Eduardo Sosa wrote: Hi! After years having used Sendmail+Majordomo+Linux, I´ve migrated to Exim+Mailman+linux http://listas.unam.edu.ar/mailman/listinfo . I do know that you receive questions like this one every day, but I would like to know from where could I download a spanish translation for the Mailman 2.0.11 You cannot, you have to use mailman 2.1b2 for international language support. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman the thing to use with a big newsletter?
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 02:18:26AM +0200, Support wrote: Hello, i'm searching a software that gives me the ability to send my newsletter to nearly 240'000 recipents. Unless you plan to use the subscribe/unsuscribe architecture in mailman, you're better off rolling a shell script that loops through the list of users Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] restricting privileges
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:10:36PM -0700, Raquel Rice wrote: Can anyone suggest a way of restricting privileges in the Mailman web admin pages? In particular I'd like to stop users with list-admin privileges from being able to change the max_message_size setting but still allow site-admins to have full access. Tell them to leave it alone or they lose admin privileges? I use config_list to reset the settings I want daily. Cheap and crude, but works for now Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:33:51PM +0200, Andreu Sanchez wrote: Well, i have a question regarding mailman, we need to create some lists with 5000 mail addresses and we ask ourselves if mailman would support that huge bunch of mails and if the answer is yes, what machine must have the mailman? Yes, many people do that and more. Any recent machine (P3 500Mhz or better) should do fine. I would worry more about RAM than CPU, and put something like 512MB Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman in french
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:45:11PM +0200, Laurent Rathle wrote: Hello, Is it possible to put french messages and templates in mailman 2.0.8 and if yes, how do I set it ? Not easily mailman 2.1b2 supports that out of the box. You should try it. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:34:47PM -0400, Jon Carnes wrote: Lets not forget about the biggest bottle neck of all... the Hard Drive. For maximum through-put, you need to use a SCSI drive or RAID array as the Disk Subsystem for the server. If this is mission critical the obvious choice is a SCSI / RAID disk subsystem. Actually if you have enough RAM, the whole config.pck should fit in the disk cache, so it's not a huge deal (but yes, I use SCSI and RAID for all my servers) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Filtering spam with Spamassassin / Procmail and Mailman...
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:53:52PM -0400, Phydeaux wrote: This works fine and so far zero spam has made it onto my mailing lists. Unfortunately, however, I am now trapping up to 15 messages per day per list. I have to manually remove each piece of detritus via the administrative interface. 2 options If you use exim, you can run my SA in exim at SMTP time code: http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html This will let you reject or save mail before it even hits mailman There is also a patch for mailman which lets mailman run SA and discard or hold messages flagged as spam, look in the patch manager on sf.net or in this list's archives Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade differences
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:37:04AM -0500, Paul Croft wrote: Is there a site that lists the new features that are in this version? There are announced right here, you can read the archives, but I'll save you time, it's only bug fixes. New features are in mailman 2.1 Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New user question
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 05:21:36PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Oops. If the site administrator allows it (via an mm_cfg.py variable), list owners can suppress the RFC 2369 headers. My bad, thanks for the correction. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:25:53AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Does not work in a shared environment. PERMISSION DENIED every time! Uh? You gotta be part of the group mailman to have permissions on the db. BTW if any of the programmers are here can I ask why a .db format was used Because you don't want to a access a 10,000+ membership list linearly. That's programming 101. and not the much simpler ASCII file? I mean this software is really great at what it does. The problem is (like I have mentioned before) that it is not very flexible at all and you have to go through a lot of screens and steps to do things. I want to try to make this work on my server. Please Not really, you just try to do all the things it wasn't designed for and then complain that there isn't a front end of it. If you needed to list the membership, you could do it with ~mailman/bin/list_members. If you want a raw dump of the DB, you can get it with ~mailman/bin/dumpdb What else do you want? If you're missing the glue for what you want, you get to write it, the base tools are there. give me help getting all of the excessive overhead turned off that we don't need. Eh, don't complain to us if you need to shave the conners off your cube as you're hammering it into a round hole. It's open source, you can do that if you want, but you get to shave the said corners off, not us. (Well, Barry Zope.com take monetary bribes, but that's a different matter :-p) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:04:52AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote:
What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my
subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm
and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete
list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas?
You cannot get the passwords through the web or a direct command line tool.
You can however run ~mailman/bin/dumpdb
~mailman/lists/listname/config.{db|pck} and grep from there.
You can also trivially create a web page from it with a small script
Marc
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Re: [Mailman-Users] LISTS command
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:13:11AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: 1) I am running in a shared environment. When I send LISTS to the listname-request address I get a listing of all lists on the server and NOT just the one(s) for that domain. My domain should not be allowed to advertise other webmasters' lets. In fact I DON'T WANT TO advertise other lists from my domain. Can this be patched somehow? Everything can be patched, but mailman 2.0 doesn't handle virtual domains too well. mailman 2.1 is better in that respect, although you may still have to patch it a bit to do what you want (check first) 2) Why is it that I have to send a request to listname-request to get a listing of the mailing lists at a domain. What if I don't know the name of ANY lists at the domain? Shouldn't I (if i can I have not figured out how to do it) be able to send something to a master mailman address and get the lists? Seems pretty logical to me. I am old and slow so maybe I missed this one. Because people don't use mailman that way (eh, you must be used to me saying this by now). 1) Mailman was meant to be used primarily over the web, so you can get the list of lists there 2) You are usually pointed to a list and start with that one 3) Do you Email majordomo@randomhosts and ask for the list of lists? I don't... 4) most mailman 2.1 install will have a mailman master list, so you'll be able to Email mailman-request Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New user question
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:50:44AM -0700, Bob Weissman wrote: I hope I'm reading this right; may I infer that these headers will be supressable on a per-list basis? Nope, site-wide only. Barry already knows that mailman 3 will probably need a toggle redesign, where most options will be sitewide, listwide and even per-user where possible Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] your software
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 02:45:37AM +0200, Norbert Bollow wrote: The whole point of the GNU project is to create an operating system that is completely Free Software. Therefore, it is only proper to inform users of GNU software that this is our goal. The only reason I'm answering here is that I wouldn't want people to think I disagree with that. I don't disagree with most of the goals of the GNU project. Like I told Barry, I GPL my code. I just get annoyed when I see people trying to pressure others into saying Free Software instead of Open Source or GNU/Linux when Linus has made it clear that he never wrote linux to be part of the GNU project (he couldn't care less), or when only 10-15 packages on my linux distribution are part of the GNU project (most others are GPLed software, but aren't part of the GNU project. However, yes most of those 10-15 packages are essential, from fileutils from gcc, but so are *many* other packages on my debian system). I think we all agree that open source (or free software if you want to call it that) is good, and that furthering such systems in order to reach more users is good. Arguing about forcing people to give credit, when it's debatable since *many* other people and projects deserve credit too, is lame, especially on this list where it's clearly off topic. (BTW, you never ask for credit, you get it or you don't. Sometimes you deserve it and don't get it. Such is life. Pointing out repeatetly that you are owed that credit is the _last_ thing you should be doing, you will only discredit yourself, and I'm afraid to say that RMS has done a fine job of that. Jordan Hubbard is a model example of someone who's humble that way) Marc PS: Please flame me off list :) -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] does GNU Mailman keep list of all members joined
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:42:09PM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:41:18 -0400 Karim R Lakhani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, hi i was wondering if GNU Mailman keeps track of all users that have subscribed (ever) to the list. Thus is there a data base that tracks current active users and those that have unsubscribed as well? No, only current. ~mailman/logs/subscribe does contain that information Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] your software
[I do not plan to answer mails on this thread] On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 11:22:26AM +0200, Norbert Bollow wrote: Sandra Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear Mailman, I currently use your Mailman software at work , through my univesity system, and a fabulous system it is indeed. Do you have any equivalent software that would work on the web, but not using the linux operating system? To be quite accurate, Linux is the name of a kernel which is an important part of the operating system; the whole system should properly be called GNU/Linux. Please don't start this advocaty here because I will tell you what I think of Stallman, his pig-headedness, and his ridiculous attempts at begging for credit left and right. RMS does deserve lots of credit, but begging for it, especially in cases where it's questionable is very lame and completely discredits him. Barry has made the choice to call the project he maintains Mailman, the GNU Mailing List Manager That's his right, it's his software Linus calls his project Linux, and so do I. Debian has decided to call their distribution, GNU/Linux, they can do that. I've also decided that RMS has annoyed me enough that I did a s#GNU/Linux#Linux# all over my debian systems, and I can do that too. The short version is: spare us the advocacy here, because I (and others) can give you counterpoints for each of your points, and it's completely off topic for this list. The main point about GNU has always been to create a complete operating system which is completely Free Software, for details please refer to http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-history.html And you also know that linux wasn't meant to be part of the GNU system (and still isn't if you ask Linus), and that RMS only started cligging to it when the hurd kernel project didn't really go anywhere, but you knew that. Incidently, the Revolution OS movie gives a good neutral point of view of this, and lets people decide for themselves. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman in chroot environment
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 10:34:34AM +0200, CONTRAIRE M DsigTcs wrote: Hello, I am trying to setup mailman in a chroot environment. It doesn't work and I am wondering if it's possible at all. It is possible, you can run anything in a chroot environment. For that matter, you can install Red Hat inside a Debian system or the other way around. It's just a matter of copying enough things inside your chroot environment, which includes part of /dev, /etc, your web server. and probably the incoming part of your mail software. It is going to be a lot of work and it's probably going to provide you with very little benefit. Also, if you wonder how you should be doing all this, it probably means that yoy shouldn't be doing it (unless it's purely to learn) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] I/O error in Runner.py when archiving under 2.1a3
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:44:19AM -0700, Ellen Spertus wrote: A mailing list of mine works except for archiving. I am using 2.1a3 on Redhat. Ok, if you are using 2.1, you *really* want to use CVS, not snapshots, unless they just came out. Barry being a lucky guy invariably fixes a bug or two right after releasing snapshots :-) 2.1b2 is due out RSN, but you can use CVS right now Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] renaming a mailing list
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:40:24PM -0400, Fuzzy wrote: I discovered that one of my lists sanctuary-admin conflicts with the admin address of the mailing list sanctuary, mailman is taking the posting address and appending -admin and trying use that as the admin address. this fails and confuses the membership of sanctuary-admin. how can I rename the mailing list sanctuary-admin to sanctuary-adm so there isn't a conflict? It should be in the FAQ. but in the meantime, look at the archives with a search engine, it's been posted here a few times. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] create, delete a list
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:13:53PM -0500, Raik Nettling wrote: Is there a way to create /delete a list through a web-interface or e-mail ? http://www.acme.com/mailman/create doesn't work. I cannot find find a script for it. I'm running mailman 2.0.9 on Redhat 7.0. You cannot create or remove lists from the web or by mail in mailman 2.0 You can do so via the web in mailman 2.1, but not by mail (unless you write a quick interface to do that yourself) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Editability of messages
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 07:55:01AM -0400, Tom Neff wrote: Billie R. McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using version 2.0.8 for a moderated list. But, we aren't able to edit messages before approving them (for example, to delete just one inappropriate word). How can we do this? There is a FAQ entry that wants you to hand edit various spool files, but you can patch 2.0.8 to allow message editing. I think the patch will be necessary for mailman 2.1, it unfortunately stores the message on disk in a database format, making hand editing on the mm server not that easy. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] PW Reminder Override?
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:42:25PM -0400, Tim Miller wrote: Sorry I was not clearer about this. Each list has a setting of whether or not to send out the monthly password reminder (Send monthly password reminders Y/N). I want to send them to every list regardless of how this is set. Even if you don't know python, you can look at the cron job that does that and rip out the check that sets whether the reminder should be sent or not Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:24:02PM -0600, Brian Noecker wrote: Update on this: Seems that the problems with the admin(21776): OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted error stem from the following observations: the /opt/mailman/lists and /opt/mailman/lists/test/config.db file has permissions and ownership as such: drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 3072 Apr 10 13:48 test -rw-rw1 mailman mailman 3392 Apr 10 13:48 config.db -rw-rw1 www-data mailman 3391 Apr 10 13:47 config.db.last -rw-rw1 www-data mailman 3029 Apr 10 11:47 config.db.tmp.development.corp.jabber.com.21024 Now, as you can see, the config.db.tmp files are being created everytime I make a change that effects the config.db. The temp file is written by the Are you running any secure linux kernel with restricted hardlinks? If so, see README.linux and the script to fix this in crontrib (in the main source tree) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple emails to lists
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:23PM -0700, Philip Rowe wrote: Hey, I've been going through the documentation in order to stop Mailman from sending multiple emails to users for lists that contain another list name. You cannot do this with mailman 2.0 Mailman 2.1 could almost do this, but is missing the duplicate Message-ID tracking patch from Ben (he's still supposed to work on it :-D), so for now you can't do it either. You can use procmail on the receipient side, or reorganize your lists to avoid dupes (hierachical lists) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] editing pending messages
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:46:53AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 07:05:27 -0400 (EDT) sean pambianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is it possible to edit messages that are held for approval in the administrative interface? The header and the text? Please see the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Talking about this, it seems that the change to a pickle files for held messages in 2.1 (I'm not sure why the change BTW) unfortunately makes such editing hard now, unless I missed something. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Envelope-to:-header
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:37:44PM -0800, Thomas Bartke wrote: Hi: why is it that the Envelope-to:-header in posts from my mailing list lists all recipients? I noticed that he mails from this list (Mailman-Users) only puts a single e-mail address in the Envelope-to:-header. Can we do that, too? Would you care to tell us what MTA you are using and maybe showing us the headers of an example message? My first guess is that your mailing lists are local and that all the receipients are in the same domain, so they all show up in the same RCPT TO, whereas when you get a message from mailman-users, you are the only subscribe from your domain, hence the only one in that header. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribing safely
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:40:40AM +0200, Herve Cassagne wrote: Hi, It is possible to Mass Subscribe Members from the Membership Management page. How many at a time should I add ? My list is not very long: only 400 members. 4 times 100, or less, or more ? What is your advice, - and why this ? Safety is my priority of course. IF you have access to the server ~mailman/bin/add_members is a better bet, but adding 400 addresses through the web should work ok. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the default value for ACK and DIGEST ?
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 09:20:39PM +0200, Herve Cassagne wrote: Hi folks, For a new subscriber, by default the setting account is (ampongst other things): - NOACK (the member does not get acknowledgements of his posts) - If DIGEST, the format is PLAIN. I'd like to change the defalt value to : - ACK: ack (the members do get acknowledgements of their posts), - DIGEST: MIME This is an option in mailman 2.1 (in beta right now), see DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS in ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: set up the mailman list as a newsletter ?
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 09:07:17AM -0600, Catherine Mannix wrote: Or you can set the Reply-to to Poster. Hint: setting Reply-To does _not_ let you redirect answers reliably. Reply to all with reply to the list and the original sender regardless of what Reply-To is set to. Your best bet if you want to prevent replies from going to the list is to send your mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is redirected to /dev/null) and Bcc your post to the actual listname At work, I have exim rewrite [EMAIL PROTECTED] into [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header to. That way if people reply to all, the mail doesn't go to all (which is moderated anyway) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Feedback needed: nodupes patch and reply-to munging per user
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:42:14PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM == Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MM Ah, you want as a site owner to not have dupe removal enabled? MM Ok, then after installing mailman-cvs, make sure you set MM DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS to 0 (or make sure it doesn't MM contain 256). If you are a list owner, the interface also MM allows you to not set nodupes by default for new users. I'm thinking that the default for DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS should be 0, not 256. This feels better to me as more in-line with existing behavior. Comments? If you want to be really conservative, you can set it to 0. That said, while most people I know dealt with receiving dupes, very few actually wanted to receive them. That's why I thought enabling nodupes by default would be a good thing (I also need to find a way to do a mass change of all the membership of a list to nodupes without checking boxes on the web interface) I think on this subject, you'll have few people wanting dupes by default, and again, it's a sitewide, listwide, and user-level setting, so it can be changed easily in the case the default isnt' good :) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] testing lists using IP addresses
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 05:25:44PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: Most MTA's are setup to use the Domain Name. I think the ip address would screw them up considerably. You could configure your local MTA to handle The RFCs say that you can send Email to listname@[192.168.101.202] (you need brackets). Of course some MTAs piss all over the RFCs, so... Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search capability
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:23:45PM -0500, Sandra Cann wrote: We have over 4500 users on our listserv. We are absolutely desparate for a search capability for the archives. PLe! Look in the archives, someone made a patch to get htdig to work with mailman. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] admin unsubscribe
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 04:44:38PM -0800, Andrew Hon wrote: Hi there, Mailman is nice, but I'm searching for a way to unsubscribe a list member without him knowing. Currently it seems the member is notified, and there is no option for not notifying. I think if you have an unsubscribe message in the HTML interface for the list, they get it. If you don't, I think they do not get a message when they are unsubscribed. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] How many
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:31:13PM -0600, Paul H Byerly wrote: Hi all, Can someone tell me how many members a list on version 2.0.7 can have? I've been thru the gnu site and can't find information on that. An old reference I saw says 1000, but that was for a previous version. Thanks. Some people seem to go up to 100,000 but that's pushing a bit. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking a user from subscribing
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 03:01:03PM -0500, Margaret Levine Young wrote: We have set up a series of actions for a list manager to take if a subscriber is breaking the list rules, starting with one-week hand-moderation (so the list managers have to approve the subscriber's posts). The final action is to throw the person off the list. Is there a way to tell Mailman to ignore subscription requests from a specific address? In ListProc, we could add the address to an IGNORE file. This is possible in mailman 2.1 which is due out soon. (the beta should be out very soon) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up a Mailman List
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 03:25:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the max # of users, I can register with Mailman? 10,000 to 100,000 per list Number of list is currently limited (by your filesystem) to 16,000 Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands via email...
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:39:18AM +0530, Frederick Noronha wrote: Is it possible to send in approval commands via email (I used to do it with Majordomo and Yahoogroups, but they are both difficult in other ways) instead of having to log on via the Net? Mailman 2.1 which will be out soon allows for that. Secondly, can the webpage generated by Mailman be made a little more ambitious to allow (i) uploading photographs (ii) offering us stats, as PHPnuke does? It will do neither, and there are no plans I know off to add that functionality. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Which file are the email addresses stored in???
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 03:07:26PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote:
They probably stored in a simple database, but you can dump them out by
~mailman/lists/listname/config.{db,pck}
dumpdb will list the content of those files
Marc
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[Mailman-Users] Feedback needed: nodupes patch and reply-to munging per user
[I'm Ccing mailman-developers in case a few people there aren't on mailman-users, but please reply on mailman-users] Ben Gertzfield wrote a patch which Barry recently included in mailman-cvs which allows you to not receive the list copy of a message in you were Cced in the headers (nodupes patch). The idea is to reproduce the (imo sole useful) feature of reply-to munging where people don't get two copies of replies to posts. After porting his patch to mailman-cvs, I've written another patch that extends this functionality by making reply-to munging a per user option. The idea is that I tried to provide an alternative to listwide reply-to munging because I truly belive that is bad for many reasons that I won't list here again, but if you're curious, have a look at: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6693group_id=1 (please note, this is _not_ meant to start a thread on whether munging is good or bad) The idea was to settle this issue for good by offering, in place of listwide reply-to munging (which would still be an option in mailman, just not one that most people would need anymore): - optional non sending of list posts if you are Cced so that you don't get two copies (nodupes patch, already in CVS) - per user reply-to munging, if you have list users who just will not accept to use reply to all to reply to list posts Since there have always been endless arguments on whether the listwide setting should be on or off, I'm hoping that moving this to a per user option will make most if not all of these arguments go away. The idea is that reply-to munging would stay off, users have the option (enabled by default) to not receive two copies of replies, and people who really want to use reply to sender to reply to list posts get a separate copy of list posts with a Reply-To header in there. I've written the per user munging part, and announced it to mailman-developers last night: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2002-March/011068.html Barry is wondering if this is going to be useful to other people or not and would like feedback. So, could you let us know here (mailman-users) if you would have use for my patch or if you have questions/comments about it. If you think the patch is stupid and shouldn't be in mailman, you can tell us that too :-) (note that the feature has to be enabled by the site and list owners, since it does cause additional processing on your list server) Thanks, Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Feedback needed: nodupes patch and reply-to munging per user
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:59:32PM -0500, Bob Puff@NLE wrote: Hi Marc gang, I think that having those options would be nice, but also please allow for reply-to being forced back to the list (regardless of user settings). Some of us require that. If you read my patch, you'll see that the option is still there. While you can argue that if all the users can set the option, and you can make the option default for new users, you don't need the listwide munging, but I'm also aware that removing the list-wide option probably wouldn't fly real well :-) The patch however does allow the site owner to hide the list-wide munging since it's not really needed anymore in most cases. But yes, my patch only adds options, it doesn't remove any. On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 01:32:59PM -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: The other thing I'd like like to see is an option to 'strip all reply-tos' It's already in mailman-cvs (DEFAULT_FIRST_STRIP_REPLY_TO) (not written by me) (imagine this scenario: I'm mad at someone. So I log onto a mac mailing list and say microsoft rules! -- and set the reply-to to the person I'm mad at. If you don't strip that reply-to, all the angry replies go back to the poor schmuck in the reply-to -- and since I've already abandoned the hotmail account I used to start the bomb, I'm off scott free) I was actually arguing with Barry whether DEFAULT_FIRST_STRIP_REPLY_TO was needed if you weren't doing listwide munging, but and you just gave a good example of when it could be useful. Thanks. On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 01:03:14PM -0800, alex wetmore wrote: Can you provide information on the extra processing that it requires? It doesn't do anything crazy like send a message per recipient to the MTA, does it? Nope :-) From the patch: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2002-March/011068.html +# As soon as a list member selects this, it will cause each message to be +# duplicated in your spool (one copy with reply-to, and one copy without), and +# it will also force a scan of the list userlist to see which user gets which +# message. You may notice a slowdown on lists with several thousand users. +# List admins will be allowed to turn this on and off on a per list basis, +# but this variable takes precedence over the listmaster(s) setting +# Set to 1 to enable +SITEWIDE_ALLOW_PER_USER_REPLYTO_MUNGING = 1 I also have an optimization in there that disables the mail split and extra processing if no one in the list requested reply-to munging (which hopefully is the general case on most lists) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Feedback needed: nodupes patch and reply-to munging per user
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:54:27PM +0100, Fil wrote: @ Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] : If you think the patch is stupid and shouldn't be in mailman, you can tell us that too :-) If you want opinions, here's mine: I want to receive two copies if I'm CCed. Not as an option, but as something I can rely upon. Because you never know Fair enough. While dupe removal is enabled by default in mailman-cvs, it cannot be forced on by the list owner or site owner (they can only set the default setting) What this means is that when you sign up, you simply need to make sure you uncheck the box that would remove dupes. If I want to remove duplicates, there's a three line procmail recipe that does it perfectly (I'm told). Yes, it does. Let's see the problem otherwise. If a user does not receive its copy through the list, s/he'll write to the listmaster to ask why?. I don't want these questions! If their expectations are that they can ask this from a listserver, they'll also expect it to work 100%, which cannot be guaranteed. Ah, you want as a site owner to not have dupe removal enabled? Ok, then after installing mailman-cvs, make sure you set DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS to 0 (or make sure it doesn't contain 256). If you are a list owner, the interface also allows you to not set nodupes by default for new users. This will cause the mailman to send dupes by default, unless the user changes the setting and explicitely asks to not receive them. If that isn't acceptable, you could then remove the option by ripping it from templates/en/options.html|readme.txt and MailCommander.py Lots of trouble for something only hackers might want - and hackers have procmail. I beg to differ. If that were true, I wouldn't have spent the time to port Ben's patch. I've had many list users on windows system complain about dupes. Unix users typically don't complain, or go away happily when you show them procmail. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply Question
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 07:30:03AM -0800, alex wetmore wrote: Mailman could look at the To and Cc lines of the message and make sure it doesn't sent to members which are listed on those lines. This would result in each person getting one copy, either from the list or from the sender who hit reply to all. That's what I was saying, it's an option Ben wrote and that just got included in mailman cvs You described this as a mutt feature (or maybe I missed something), I was suggesting it as a mailman feature. Ok, let's try again: mutt supports reply to author, reply to list, and reply to all. I usually use reply to all with mutt anyway because I make the default assumption that the sender may want a copy of my answer (which in some cases you can receive quite a while before the list copy) Then, there is the mailman feature I was talking about which allows the receipient not to receive a list ocpy if he/she was Cced in the message. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply Question
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 04:13:33PM -0600, Jorge Cuevas wrote: Hello everybody, I have a question, that I consider tha has been asked before, but I wasn't able to find it on the internet nor in the mailman-user list. Is it possible to configure mailman so when you press the reply button, the reply goes to the sender of the mail, and if you press the reply-all button it goes to ONLY the list? No. The mail client sends a copy to the author, mailman can't stop that. However, if the mail client is mutt, or some similarily enlightened MUA, you can use list reply to, and if you insert a Mail-Followup-To, you can clue the client to have reply to all only reply to the list. Or probably there's a way so although you send the mail to both the sender and the list, mailman can take away any repeated address in the To and CC fields. Yes. You're in luck, I just ported a patch from Ben Gertzfield to mailman cvs (and it got included, thanks Barry) that does just that. If you don't want to upgrade to mailman-cvs quite yet (it is definitely useable although a few smaller functions or buttons sometimes get broken for a day or two), I think Ben initially wrote his patch for mailman 2.0 (look in the archives) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/lists/test2/config.db'
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:00:36AM -0800, Robert Koberg wrote: File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 869, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/lists/test2/config.db' Doesn't ~mailman/bin/check_perms -f help? Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:48:45PM +, Michael Johnson wrote: More importantly, how to prevent such things as future occurences. Certainly, manually checking and removing the lock may work on a per instance basis, but, in reality, it appears less than ideal. This problem happens way to frequently. Would changing the frequency depending the system of qrunner cron alleviate difficult locks? Is this a race condition issue with qrunner? Unless you are having crashes (like a bad message crashing qrunner), in which case, it should show up in your mailman logs (~mailman/logs/), qrunner doesn't just casually die and leave a lock behind. At least, it doesn't on my sites. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:58:30PM -0500, Jay S Curtis wrote: Hmmm.. qrunner not running no lockfile found (using postfix) Am I barking up the wrong tree? Hold on, so you are saying that your qrunner is running once a minute from cron, that it complains that it's finding a lockfile and hence doesn't run, but that you can't find a lockfile? If so, run the cron entry by hand under strace Something like: su - mailman strace -f /usr/bin/python -S /var/local/mailman/cron/qrunner Hopefully that will give you a clue as to why it's not running Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe all
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 05:30:34PM +0100, Daniel Furter (SUB) wrote: hello in the mailman version 2.0beta5 we have installed at our university the subscribe all button in the menu administrative requests for mailing list has disappeared. i appreciated this function very much. now i have to click dozens of times to subscribe all new members. before i had to click just once. please but the subscribe all button back in the new mailman versions. You should start by upgrading to 2.0.8 Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Regular Expressions
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 04:38:56PM -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: John, Thanks for responding. The Mailman version is 2.0.5 patched by Marc MERLIN on SourceForge. The Python version is 1.5. Are you talking about the python version on lists.sourceforge.net? Because if so: usw-sf-list1:~# python -V Python 2.1.1 Content-Type: .*(?!plain--signed) Note: I'm not very good with regexp, and I have no programming experience with Python. BTW, be careful, bad regexes tend to break older mailmans :-) (Yes, I'm hoping sf.net will be able to switch to mailman 2.1 soon, but not quite on 2.1a4+ yet :-D) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Regular Expressions
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:47:31AM -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: Marc MERLIN knows which version of Python runs on the SF list server. I hope he is reading this thread, so he can enlighten us. Already done, but please, if you need sf.net support, submit a support request on the sf.net web site. When I'm in *I got 3000 Emails to catch up with in the car to and from Tahoe*, I can assure you that I read my list mail rather quickly, so don't rely on my noticing a request here :-) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info!
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:27:08PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Ok. Konqueror, now IE. Forgive me if I missed the answer here: but technically, who is at fault? - the browsers - mailman - the cookie specs for being ambiguous ? Tnanks, Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 09:20:08AM +, Hakon Brynildsen wrote: You can also change some default parameters in mm_cfg.py, but listen to Merlin's warning. Actually I read unsubscribe instead of subscribe. For open unsubscribes in mailman 2.0, you need a CGI gateway. For open subscribes, you should use the mailman setting here: # does this site allow completely unchecked subscriptions? ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = 0 Marc MERLIN wrote: Of course, it then lets me unsubscribe you, but in some cases that's an acceptable tradeoff Actually it's different. Open unsubscribes on the internet can be acceptable.' Open subscriber _never_ are. In other words, you should never have a list on the internet where people can subscribe other people against their weill. If you do, you can eventually get subscribed to the MAPS blacklist http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/3wayhandshake.txt Marc PS: add_members has a bug where if you feed it a list of members on the command line, it indeed doesn't work. You have to feed them via pipe and use -n - -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:13:57AM +1100, Joe Mizzi wrote: How would i be able to subscribe users through the web interface without having them reply to a confirmation email? You can write a small CGI that calls ~mailman/bin/remove_members listname email Of course, it then lets me unsubscribe you, but in some cases that's an acceptable tradeoff Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] adding subscribers
On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 05:40:21PM -0800, Andrew Watson wrote: I recently migrated a list to mailman, and after setup and testing, I tried to move the list of subscribers to the new list. I did this by pasting about 20 addresses, one per line, into the text box on the Membership Management page of the configuration site. That seemed to work. Emboldened, I pasted in another 700. After churning for a while, I got some message from the browser about not finding something. When I look at the membership page now, it says there are 720 subscribers, and shows them all. So they should be subscribed. Note that for so many people, you want to use the cli ~mailman/bin/add_members But... I received email confirmations only for the first 20. Are the others really subscribed? Is there a file I can examine to check? And Yes. You can do ~mailman/list_members listname to double check if you wish Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] admin features via email vs web
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:11:49PM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: Can an admin do mailman functions via email, like approve emails on a moderated list, instead of using the web? You need mailman 2.1cvs for that. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] What do you think of this idea to keep external people from subscribing?
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:55:20PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: Try it, it should work fine. Your users will be stuck using the web, but that's not so bad. Just for info, that's what I've done at my company for the last 2.5Y :-) I want them to use the authenticated web interface to be *really* sure it's them. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] digests wouldn'd send
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:07:38PM -0500, Jay S Curtis wrote: First time I've ever seen this message.. Anyone know what might cause it? -- Forwarded Message -- From: root (Cron Daemon) To: mailman Traceback (innermost last): File /var/www/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 65, in ? main() File /var/www/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 42, in main send_list_digest(mlist) File /var/www/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 46, in send_list_digest mlist.Lock() File /var/www/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 1339, in Lock self.__lock.lock(timeout) File /var/www/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 224, in lock self.__touch() File /var/www/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 370, in __touch os.utime(filename or self.__tmpfname, (t, t)) OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/var/www/mailman/locks/camelid.lock.camel.lrllamas.com.3602' 1) Make sure your permissions are right (~mailman/check_perms -f 2) If you run linux with restricted hardlinks and/or grsecurity, check the README.linux file Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] cookies
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 10:38:31AM +, Oliver Egginger wrote: For some reason, konqueror sends back cookies with marks around them. But this should mean that konqueror somehow works with mailman 2.05, right? (I have a konqueror user complaining that it's not working either) I havn't tried MM 2.05 but 2.06 was still working. Since 2.07 it doesn't work. Other people reporting the same: http://bugs.kde.org/db/36/36524.html http://bugs.kde.org/db/35/35153.html Some other person reported the same problem to me today (against mailman on lists.sf.net, which is based on mm 2.0.5), and I just reproduced it with konqueror 2.2.1 on my laptop right now. However, I think I solved the mystery. The SF.net mailman does have the cookie patch that used to crash python 1.5.x in some cases, and that patch is probably what breaks konqueror now (and I'm guessing that's the patch that went in mm 2.07) Either way, as long as I know it's a konqueror problem, that's fine :-) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] cookies
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:54:41AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Around 9 o'clock on Feb 1, Oliver Egginger wrote: if MM-version 2.06 and browser is konqueror then MM don't will work with passwords. For some reason, konqueror sends back cookies with marks around them. But this should mean that konqueror somehow works with mailman 2.05, right? (I have a konqueror user complaining that it's not working either) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and auto-responders?
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:45:42PM -0800, Paul Thomas wrote: Howdy, Is Mailman vulnerable to mail-loops caused by auto-responders that are configured to look like an email sent by a person? Yes. Autoresponders are not supposed to answer mails with a precedence of list or bulk, and they are supposed to answer to the envelope sender. That said, some happily ignore precedence, and will answer to the header from, and the reply-to if there is one. If you don't do reply-to munging (the default for many good reasons), you're ok, but if you do do reply-to munging, you run the risk of having an autoresponder create a loop with your list. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman for NT Servers ?
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:15:59AM -0500, ITC wrote: Hello, Do you have a Mailman version that runs on a NT platform, or know were I can find one. There were a few words about this, but I don't think anything ever came out of it. For the most part, people interested in mailman are not interested in NT. All that said, the port shouldn't be too hard. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with Mailman under 'secure' Linux kernels
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:59:43AM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Content-Description: message body text Has README.LINUX not helped? I'm attaching a few files from Mailman 2.1 just in case they have more useful or up-to-date information. The script itself is probably too MM2.1-centric, but it might be useful so I'm including it for completeness. Thanks for answering all this while I was asleep at the wheel :-) (catching up on my 2000+ list Email backlog right now) On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:25:28PM +, Richard Barrett wrote: MM 2.0.8 $build/README.LINUX reads as follows which seems define the problem and solution pretty clearly: The quick version is that the script I wrote for mailman 2.1 has been slightly updated for the new code, and contains a few more things to make grsecurity happy too. (the code in mailman 2.0 only deals with restricted symlinks in secure-linux, which is a simpler patch for linux 2.2 kernels). If you are interested in grsecurity for 2.4 linux kernels, see http://www.grsecurity.net/ Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] arch python errors, bad marshall data
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 01:41:49PM -0800, Tom Perrine wrote: I guess what I'm getting at is that the arch program uses LOTS of memory when building some of the indexes, and that incremental arch-ing may be more efficient and less likely to exercise memory-related bugs in Mailman, Python, or the underlying system. I was asking about this recently (never had the time to try it out): So you are saying that arch can be fed let's say weekly or monthly mbox files and it will correctly generate the archive? I've considered doing this on setups where I can't afford to run arch for every single message posted (and delay qrunner as a result), but where I should be able to run it for batches of messages once a night (strace has shown me that arch is very slow at editing the huge HTML pages to add one message at the bottom, but my hope is that if you add a batch, it does not incrementally add the messages one per one) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] [ alexandria-Support Requests-497696 ] mailman authentication broken
I seemed to remember that the cookie problem with mailman and konqueror was only for recent versions of mailman 2.0 and didn't affect 2.0.5 (which is what lists.sourceforge.net still runs due to the 8 or so patches I have against it, and the fact that we didn't seem to need to upgrade to the newer versions) So: does the cookie/konqueror problem also affect 2.0.5 or is this a separate problem? Thanks Marc - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 01 11:18:41 2002 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-497696 ] mailman authentication broken Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 11:18:39 -0800 Support Requests item #497696, was opened at 2001-12-29 13:41 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=21aid=497696group_id=1 Category: Mailing Lists Group: Second Level Support Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: Tavis Rudd (tavis_rudd) Assigned to: Marc Merlin (marcmerlin) Summary: mailman authentication broken Initial Comment: Mailman's authentication mechanism on the administrative pages is broken for all of the 6 lists that I manage. Nothing has changed on the client side since it worked last. After successfully entering the admin interface with my password I get an error message saying Error decoding authorization cookie when trying to view the next authenticated page. I cleared the cookie cache and tried again, but the problem continued. This is with Konqueror/KDE 2.2 on Linux. -- Comment By: Tavis Rudd (tavis_rudd) Date: 2002-01-01 11:18 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=239334 The same thing happens when I try Konqueror 2.2 on another machine. -- Comment By: Marc Merlin (marcmerlin) Date: 2002-01-01 00:36 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=6500 Mmmh, we have many konqueror users and you are the first one to complain. I seem to remember that more recent mailmans had a bug with cookies and konqueror, but the one on SF.net shouldn't have the bug. To rule out weird things, do you mind trying from another machine with konqueror? -- Comment By: Tavis Rudd (tavis_rudd) Date: 2001-12-30 12:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=239334 It just worked with IE, but as Konqueror hasn't had any cookie problems with other applications I think this a bug in Mailman's cookie parsing rather than a bug in Konqueror. -- Comment By: Marc Merlin (marcmerlin) Date: 2001-12-30 11:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=6500 Check whether this also happens if you use another browser. -- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=21aid=497696group_id=1 - End forwarded message - -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending out mail
On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 10:42:55AM -0800, Michelle Brownsworth wrote: Yes, actually, I had a very similar problem to this on my system, that all the configuring of sendmail short of making it an open relay could not fix. I eventually switched to postfix and I havent had a single problem since. -Richard Idalski Okay, given that a slew of messages are undeliverable due to domain resolution problems, which Mailman nevertheless keeps trying to deliver, apparently clogging things up, how do I clear them out? Delete all files from the qfiles directory again? Also, I don't believe Mailman processed the entire list, since my address was in the list and I haven't received the post yet. Your problem is sendmail, not mailman. Mailman gave batches of addresses to sendmail, sendmail is chocking on them. Like others, I have solved the problem by not using sendmail anymore (exim in my case) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing vacation autoresponder mail bombs
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 05:18:33PM -0500, The Berean wrote: Is there any workaround in Mailman to prevent this from happening again? Yes, ban the domain the autoreponder came from if it's from the MTA, or ban the Email it came from if it's a home cooked script. Unfortunately, there isn't much more you can do with broken autoresponders. The members want the Reply-To setting set for the list, so I dont want to Sometimes what your members want is not as relevant as to what the best setting is. I personally tell them that they can't have reply-to munging, and that there are lots of reasons why: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html (contains a copy of an old post I made on this list about this topic) set a reply to that goes to personal members. Im hoping there's a possible solution, modifying sendmail settings or something. Thanks for any help! You can always put some logic to refuse more than x posts from a certain Email per unit of time, or compute CRCs on messages that you are getting and refusing messages you already got, but it'll be hard to implement and tune, and won't be foolproof. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman wrapper generates OS error
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:54:18PM -0600, Chris Menzel wrote: xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30015, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating \ system error GIDs are correctly set for running mailman scripts. Any suggestions appreciated. Look for clues in ~mailman/logs/ Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] stripping out HTML
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:49:44AM +, Nigel Metheringham wrote: On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 15:27, David Gibbs wrote: My personal recommendation ... upgrade to mailman 2.0.6 (at minimum, probably best to go to 2.0.7) and apply Geoff Dairiki's demime patch. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=413752group_id=103atid=300103 Any of the sourceforge people want to work out why this patch does *not* show up in the list of patches against mailman, although referencing it directly works fine. For sf.net requests, you want to open a support request on the sf.net web site instead of hoping that I'll relay the request for you ;-) (and if it's not my bug, I'd have to open the request and type it in for you) All that said, the patch you mention is listed in the list of patches against mailman, right here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=300103group_id=103func=browse 413752 Coerce posts to plain text.* 2001-04-04 17:23 nobody dairiki Marc PS: Please do not post/Cc my private Email address in a public mailing list -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Running mailman on a linux/grsecurity kernel
Just in case this is useful for someone, I wrote the following quick doc for using mailman on a linux/grsec kernel Steps you need to take to run mailman on a linux grsecurity protected kernel 1) Install and run securelinux_fix.py -f 2) Grsecurity will not run binaries if the directory they're in is writable by a user other than root: panoramix:/var/local/mailman/mail# chown root.mailman . panoramix:/var/local/mailman/mail# chmod 755 . panoramix:/var/local/mailman/mail# chattr +i . 3) Apply the same fix to the CGIs panoramix:/var/local/mailman/cgi-bin# chown root.mailman . panoramix:/var/local/mailman/cgi-bin# chmod 755 . panoramix:/var/local/mailman/cgi-bin# chattr +i . Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 2001/12/04 -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:46:00PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: well, I guess I was wondering whether to do that or to try patching what i've got... what are the pros/cons of each method? Err, why? I've always patched/upgraded my source tree, and typed make install. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:01:30PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: i'm admittedly a very low-level sysadmin, trying to learn best practices. Which are, trust me, having the source tree of the installation you're running (with python, you can patch the installed version directly, but with C, you can't) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] question about headers
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 04:20:45PM -0500, Donna wrote: Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 (101270) List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users mailman-users.python.org List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ Is there any way to prevent this? Yes, read the FAQ. Hint: your mail client should be able to hide those headers. They are useful and used by good mail clients to subscribe/unsubscribe Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] htDig in 2.0.7
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 07:50:46PM +0100, Andre Dieball wrote:
Hi
I'm trying to install htdig with Mailman 2.0.7.
I saw, that there are several patches available for that, but all of
them are for 2.0.6
The changes between .6 and .7 should be so minor that the patch should apply
as is.
BTW, I had to apply this patch for htdig to work on my system:
--- HyperArch.pyTue Oct 9 17:38:33 2001
+++ /var/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.pyMon Oct 15 18:48:13 2001
@@ -810,6 +810,8 @@
upath = os.path.join(mm_cfg.HTDIG_ARCHIVE_URL, listname)
## for some reason when I add index.html to the following URL, run fails ??
starturl = self.maillist.GetScriptURL('htdig') + '/'
+ # some servers have https, but htdig doesn't dig that :-) -- Marc
+ starturl = re.sub(^https, http, starturl)
# htdig MUST go via the file system to generate its indices so
# we need the url which maps to the list's private archive
urlpath = starturl
Marc
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Re: [Mailman-Users] renaming a list
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:53:58PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: I have an installation of mailman with one list running. It's for my daughter's school. Currently, the list name is 'atrium' and it's description is 'atrium school email list'. I won't go into all the details, but I think it might be wise at this point to rename it 'unofficial-atrium'... the description I can manage myself. What is the best way to rename a running list? go back in the archives, Barry gave a very detailled step by step checklist 2-3 months ago. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving a Mailman list
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 04:07:44PM +, Paul Crowley wrote: I have a mailing list on my home machine, running Mailman 1.1, which I'd like to move onto a colocated host, running Mailman 2.0.6. Is it simply a question of tarring up the relevant directory in /lists and unpacking it in the new site? I know I'll also need to change the hostname and URL once the list is in its new location. tar and move should work as long as mailman is installed in the same directory. If not, run move_list on the lists you moved to fix the pathnames in the config.db files (and yes, you then have to change the http URL in the list config too) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Vacation email loop
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:19:15PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: On Monday 05 November 2001 10:47, Marc MERLIN wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 05:22:53PM -0500, Clark Cooper wrote: I had a situation where a user on one of my lists had the vacation utility turned on and a posting to the list resulted in a looped email because the vacation email response was then posted and on and on. The reply-to posts option has been set to the list and I would like to keep this setting. Is Outside of removing the reply to, which will catch many but not all of those problems, my usual answer is to blackhole the server the Emails came from, and send the following to the postmaster: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/autoresponders.txt Broken autoresponders should not be tolerated. Don't forget the nomail option. As admin, you can edit the membership options of the offender and turn off their mail. No, that isn't a solution. If their mail server/autoresponders are broken, I don't want to see any more mail from them until they fix it (and they usually, even if you block them). They might never fix their system, but they're not my problem anymore. Of course, you do want to try and educate them (i.e. give them a chance to fix it), but not while their mail is creating loops. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-Responses
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:26:04PM -0500, Camille K. Powell wrote: Thanks, but I hope there's a better way. I just switched from EZMLM to Mailmain and I never had this problem. The auto-replies used to go to the person that posted the message, not to the list. Actually both are wrong, auto-replies are supposed to go to the envelope sender, which is the list admin address. Ezmlm is much smarter than mailman for bounce processing since it uses VERP and knows exactly which user bounced. That said, unless you have a list that does reply to munging (forcing the reply-to to the list), auto responses should never ever reach the list, whether you're using ezmlm or mailman If an auto-responder is broken to the point that it answers receipients in the To/Cc fields, you can block the sender, but neither mailman or ezmlm can do anything about it. If you are using reply-to munging, that may be another reason to consider not doing it (but the sending mail server is still at fault) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscription of 7,000 Addresses
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 01:35:23PM -0500, Camille K. Powell wrote: Are there any foreseeable problems with doing a mass subscription of approximately 7,000 users? No, as long as you use ~mailman/bin/add_members instead of trying to paste your list in the admin web page. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] moderators replies
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 12:03:58PM +0100, Anthony Worrall wrote: Is it possible to customise the moderators replies on a per list basis. I would like to change the Your message to awaits moderator approval and the Request to mailing list rejected replies. You have the source code. You grep for the string and you change it (you don't even have to know programming to do that) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] list hosting
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:56:24AM -0700, J. St. Clair wrote: Am thinking of using your software on my server ... I have a 5,000 subscriber list, does your softare handle that many subscribers? Yes, and many more It can start to get slow when you go beyond 50-100k users in one list. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing some lines in normal emails (mailman2.0.6)
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 06:14:25PM -0400, Greg Ward wrote: On 12 October 2001, Spades said: How do I get rid of all these headers on the mailman 2.0.6 mailing list mail? AFAIK there are only two options: * hack Mailman to not emit those headers * tweak your MTAs config to remove them But of course, you want to do neither. http://www.list.org/MM21/faq.html Q. My list members are complaining about Mailman's List-* headers! What can I do about this? A. These headers are added by Mailman for the long-term benefit of end-users. Mailman is compliant with RFC 2369, which is where these headers are defined. See the file README.USERAGENT for hints on what to tell your end users. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing a list name
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 04:05:47PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Mike Avery wrote: I'd like to change the name of a Mailman hosted mailing list. The only way I see to do that is to delete it and start over, but I really don't want to do that. Is there a clean way to rename a mailing list? I've never tried this, however others have claimed to be able to do this by simple renaming the aliases, renaming the list directories and archive names, and then setting the name correctly in the configuration. I'd say backup that list before you start fiddling with it. :) and running ~mailman/bin/move_list on the resulting list. Barry posted a very exhaustive step by step set of instructions. Read the archives. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 10:05:13AM +0200, Norbert Bollow wrote: Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? That would be an awesome feature... The mailman archives are all text based, so they should be easy to search and index. There's a patch at Sourceforge which adds this functionality. You can try it e.g. at http://dotgnu.org/pipermail/developers/ That's pretty cool. Does this patch take into account public and private lists? (the biggest reason I have never implemented archive search at my company is that the archiver has to know which lists are private and the users and their passwords before allowing a search on a private list) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] feature request: searching the list membership
Ok, I'm not holding my breath because 1) I'm not contributing the code, and 2) like most people _I_ personally don't need it, but it's a feature request from sourceforge users: List admins have no way to do a quick grep on the list membership without shell access to the list server (which they are obviously not getting :-D) So, quick box in some corner of the admin interface where one could type a regex, and that would return the list members that match that would be nice. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] sending out list and getting error message of Too many open files in system
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:13:20AM -0700, Rick Backer wrote: Too many open files in system I get this error after sending out a email to are list. The size of the list is 149271. Does someone know what is happening to create this error Of course, if you told us what OS you were using, that'd give us more of a chance to help. On linux, try this: # Set number of open filehandles to 64K instead of 4K echo 65536 /proc/sys/fs/file-max Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help please!!
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 02:25:26PM -0400, Tania Rodriguez wrote: Hi I'm running Mailman-2.1a2 and I got a big problem. I have a mailing list called modulos and everything seemed to be ok, you know, every single message was well delivered, but today I got an alarm from my monitoring system... THERE WERE NO INODES LEFT!!! in the partition where Mailman is installed There were about 3 files named like this heldmsg-modulos-9.txt they started creating since 3 days ago, located in /usr/local/mailman/data The content of this files is: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 17 11:43:38 2001 Can anyone tell me why happened this? Sure: something is spamming your modulos list, but the headers do not contain the list name, so messages are held. You then have either no list admin for that list, or whoever is list admin is not acting on the admin messages, so more messages pile up until you run out of inodes Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman lists
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:48:03PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello my name is Barry W. Grubbs and I am very new to this. Is it possible to have an open subscription to a mailing list, so you don't have to have a password to join? What I want is for people to be able to subscribe to my Yes, edit ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, and add this: # does this site allow completely unchecked subscriptions? ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = 1 You should absolutely not use this feature for a machine on the internet. Running open lists which allow any person to spam another one with unchecked subscriptions will get your server blackholed. However, for use on an intranet, that's fine. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] problem in replybot.py
My logs are being filled with: Jul 12 12:44:02 2001 usw-sf-list1 (17423) Delivery exception: __int__ Jul 12 12:44:02 2001 usw-sf-list1 (17423) Traceback (innermost last): File /var/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipel ine func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Replybot.py, line 78, in process text = mlist.autoresponse_postings_text % d AttributeError: __int__ How do I find which list it comes from or further debug this? Thanks, Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
