[Mailman-Users] Interesting request...

2007-01-20 Thread Rob Poe
AOL has implemented a abuse reporting system.  IF someone who 
legitimately subscribes to the list (for whatever reason) marks the list 
traffic as SPAM, AOL will email a report to the server owner (if they 
sign up) with an abuse report. 

The BAD part about that is, that AOL will not tell you WHO it is.  The 
best suggestion is to embed a piece of identifiable data into each 
message so you KNOW who the user is who received the email.

Not knowing exactly how MailMan handles sending of email (maybe this 
makes a difference on performance, too) would it be hard to put this 
piece of data into each message mailed?  Or perhaps as an on/off option?

Perhaps (and this might take more work than is wanted) a userid field in 
the membership db (this message sent to listname-xx) where xx is the 
user's id.  Or perhaps just an MD5 hash of the user email address and 
some sort of util to dump the addresses / hash values into a text file 
so you can look up who it is who's abusing that kind of thing, so that 
you can handle their unsubscribe or whatever...

Just some thoughts..


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[Mailman-Users] Quick question ..

2005-11-24 Thread Rob Poe
I'm running Mailman for a list, and one of my subscribers is getting 
this message from spamalert.net

(VIRUS) Re: [CWC] Fuel Tank Removal
   Received: Wednesday, Nov 23, 2005 at 9:03pm
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (removed) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Description: Outlook CR vulnerability
   This message was deleted and cannot be retrieved.

He said if the person sends directly to him, he gets the message just 
fine.  It's when it bounces through Mailman that it picks up this error..

I'm perplexed now. :/


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question ..

2005-11-24 Thread Rob Poe
Sounds like more of a throw the baby out with the bathwater service.

Not ideal, IMO.

Maybe the user could whitelist the address of the mailing list (or the whole
domain I use, perhaps)...

It's an unmodified installation of Mailman.  only 0.0.1 versions behind what's
running this list :0




-- Original Message ---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Zwanzig)
To: Rob Poe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Sent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:45:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question ..

 In a flurry of recycled electrons, Rob Poe wrote:
  I'm running Mailman for a list, and one of my subscribers is getting 
  this message from spamalert.net
  
  (VIRUS) Re: [CWC] Fuel Tank Removal
 Received: Wednesday, Nov 23, 2005 at 9:03pm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (removed) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Description: Outlook CR vulnerability
 This message was deleted and cannot be retrieved.
  
  He said if the person sends directly to him, he gets the message just 
  fine.  It's when it bounces through Mailman that it picks up this error..
 
 Checking on the error in question, (Outlook CR vulnerability), 
 something is slipping in a naked cr character into the message 
 header. Check all your configs for one of them. Also, is there a 
 '\r' in there somewhere?
 
 Python question- if you use a backslash at the end of a line in a string
 literal, can that bury a cr in the text?
 
 Are you using a MAC, BTW? (Uses cr as EOL character.)
 
  I'm perplexed now. :/
 
 Reading spamalert's support page, I'm not surprised. It's more of 
 a no support page...
 
 z!
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