Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 11, 2007, at 6:12 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Actually, I meant unsubscribe_policy, but that isn't it anyway.. There is an issue with subscribe_policy, but it doesn't impact your present issue. It seems the policy is likely set to None, but the mm_cfg option ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE is set to No so the option doesn't appear on the page. Unless you really want open subscription without confirmation, I suggest setting the option you do want. That setting is intentional - this is a list with special needs (lots of cell phone subscribers who have much more trouble unsubbing than normal users). Is there anything in Mailman's 'vette' or 'subscribe' logs? Yes in vette: Feb 11 13:09:47 2007 (30321) replied and discard appears immediately when the request is received. The admin Autoresponder page has autorespond_requests set to Yes, w/discard so the response in autoresponse_request_text is sent and the request is discarded. Bingo - that was it! Many thanks Mark. Much appreciated. Scot -- Birdhouse Hosting Custom web and mail hosting services http://hosting.birdhouse.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 11, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Scot Hacker wrote: Hmm... this is a cPanel system, OK, found 'em. For the archives: On cPanel systems, Mailman aliases are stored in /etc/valiases/[domain] So now back to the original problem... for the domain in question, where sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] results in the user getting back a Not allowed to post message rather than an unsub confirmation, the line looks totally normal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/ mailman leave listname_domain.com So that looks fine, and has never been altered. Sending a message to listname-unsubscribe has the same result as listname-leave. Other theories? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 11, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Is the user removed from the list? No. What is in the list's General Options-goodbye_msg and the send_goodbye_msg flag? One line of plain text. It's set to Yes. What is the setting for the list's Privacy options...-Subscription rules-subscribe_policy? Hmm... None of the three options are checked. Does this generate a pending request in adminbd? No. Is there anything in Mailman's 'vette' or 'subscribe' logs? Yes in vette: Feb 11 13:09:47 2007 (30321) replied and discard appears immediately when the request is received. Nothing in subscribe log. Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On one of my lists, when a subscriber sends a message to listname- [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of the unsub confirmation, they get back the Sorry, you're not allowed to post to this list message (it's configured as a one-way list). Any idea what could cause this? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 10, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On one of my lists, when a subscriber sends a message to listname- [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of the unsub confirmation, they get back the Sorry, you're not allowed to post to this list message (it's configured as a one-way list). Any idea what could cause this? The alias or whatever your MTA uses to get the mail to Mailman for the listname-leave address pipes the mail to /path/to/mail/mailman post listname instead of /path/to/mail/mailman leave listname Hmm... this is a cPanel system, and the entire contents of /etc/ aliases is: mailman-admin: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/ mailman unsubscribe mailman mailman: /dev/null mailman-loopback: /dev/null owner-mailman: mailman-admin In other words, no references to specific lists, or to -leave for any specific list, are in that file. Maybe cPanel keeps a separate aliases file somewhere, but I couldn't locate it if it does. Any cPanel experts have a clue where the equivalent file is? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Bug?/no Admin level web access
Elissa wrote: I'm hoping someone can help me fix this. I installed mailman, and couldn't figure out why the web interface didn't work. It seems I CAN access any of the pages, but the admin ones. I get a lovely message in the browser: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.6rc3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Not sure what your environment is, but I've seen that message in a multi-domain cPanel environment, where you can set up a domain before it's actually living on that host (preparing to move in). You can get as far as creating a list, but when you go to access the admin pages, it fails with that message. As soon as the domain actually resolves to that host, the problem goes away. Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sanitizer settings
So I'm still not sure why SANITIZER doesn't seem to have any effect. All I want is for list messages not to have HTML attachments every time they include a bit of formatting. Is my method below wrong? Is there another way to achieve this? Thanks, Scot Scot Hacker wrote: A user is asking why HTML messages are ending up with attachments (which their organization is bouncing back to them since it doesn't allow HTML attachments). I found this in Defaults.py ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 1 The comments there say: # 2 - Leave it inline, but HTML-escape it I added this to mm_cfg.py. Then I changed the 1 to 2, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. Formatted messages still come through with attachments, and when I view source on a message, the HTML does not appear to be escaped. Ran mailmanctl restart, but no difference. How can I make formatted messages appear inline without attachments? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/shacker%40birdhouse.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sanitizer settings
Jim Tittsler wrote: On May 12, 2005, at 16:03, Scot Hacker wrote: A user is asking why HTML messages are ending up with attachments (which their organization is bouncing back to them since it doesn't allow HTML attachments). What is in the attachments? (Do you have a list footer added to messages passing through your Mailman? Some users will describe the footer as an attachment to an HTML or multipart/alternative message. Make the footer empty.) http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp Ah... thanks very much for the clue. Yep, disabling the footer fixes the issue (although we're then left without a footer). Interesting FAQ. Somehow, this was not happening when the lists were running through CommuniGate Pro; I'm not sure how that MTA solves the problem. But at least this is a possible solution for Mailman, so thanks. If you are using Mailman's content filtering, double check your MIME type filtering and html/text conversion rules on the Content filtering web page for your list. No, we're not using Content Filtering for these lists. Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Sanitizer settings
A user is asking why HTML messages are ending up with attachments (which their organization is bouncing back to them since it doesn't allow HTML attachments). I found this in Defaults.py ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 1 The comments there say: # 2 - Leave it inline, but HTML-escape it I added this to mm_cfg.py. Then I changed the 1 to 2, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. Formatted messages still come through with attachments, and when I view source on a message, the HTML does not appear to be escaped. Ran mailmanctl restart, but no difference. How can I make formatted messages appear inline without attachments? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
Jim Tittsler wrote:
You can set a specific list's subscribe_policy to 0 using bin/
withlist. (You won't be able to set it to 0 via the GUI or
config_list without setting ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE.)
$ bin/withlist -l mylist
m.subscribe_policy = 0
m.Save()
{ctrl-D}
Jim, this is cool to know, thanks. So is there a corresponding option
for unsubscribe confirmations? I tried it with
m.unsubscribe_policy = 0
and withlist didn't complain, but unsub confirmations are still sent out
:( . I also tried setting ALLOW_OPEN_UNSUBSCRIBE in mm_cfg.py, but no
luck. I find it strange that Mailman is so insistent on confirmations
(CommuniGate has a simple checkbox for confirmations on or off), but
if I can find a workaround, my user will be very pleased.
P.S. I have been able to use the normal subscribe/confirm scheme
from my phone, so it is probably a function of your carrier or your
phone. One quirk I've noticed in my lists is that if I use
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS=Yes, the reply address gets truncated in the reply
message, and I have to manually add the last few characters of the
domain name. In my case that is presumably a phone bug, since it is
picking up fewer reply address characters than it allows me to enter
and successfully send.
We're not using VERP, but thanks for that.
Scot
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
Ian Eiloart wrote: --On May 5, 2005 09:32:08 -0700 Scot Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some phones are able to subscribe to mailing lists, but most are not. I really have no idea what mechanisms cause them to fail. My guess would be that maybe the phone is sending the reply to the wrong email address. Hmm... good point. Perhaps replying to the From: address rather than the Return-Path, or vice versa. Would there be any way to fix this in mailman, or is it just a question of broken email implementations in phones? Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Open unsbuscribe?
Is there a configurable open unsubscribe option similar to: ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes in mm_cfg.py? Doesn't seem to be one, but I'm hoping there's a way to allow this. If not, we can always use a web form that talks to the CLI remove_members tool. Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
Brad Knowles wrote: If people are subscribing from their cell phones, then this means they have a way to read and write e-mail messages. That's all the capability you need, in order to have a confirmation work. They just respond to the confirmation request by e-mail, and you're done. You'd think so, wouldn't you? I can have an email conversation all day long between my cell phone and my mail client, but try to subscribe a cell phone to a mailing list and it's a different story. The confirmation message is received, you reply to it from the phone, and off it goes into a black hole, the phone never actually subscribed. Eventually the list admin gets the failure report I pasted into the original message of this thread. Some phones are able to subscribe to mailing lists, but most are not. I really have no idea what mechanisms cause them to fail. This is not specific to Mailman either - we had the same problem when we were running on CommuniGate Pro. I suspect that the problem could be at the service provider level. Most people get close to zero spam on our phones, and I think it's because cell providers do some extremely aggressive blocking. But once subscribed, the phones can receive these daily haiku digests just fine (he currently has about 3000 cell subscribers, but most of them had to be manually added or approved). Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
I have a list owner who runs a list designed to be subscribed to from text-messaging cell phones (list traffic consists only of a daily haiku - very neat). People can use the web interface to sign up, but the confirmations are a problem. The subscription confirmation arrives at the phone, the user replies to it, and then... nada. Seems to go into a bit bucket. I've confirmed that the ID cookie does make it across just fine. A little later, the list owner receives a copy of the message below. At first I thought there was some discrepancy between the Return-Path: and the From: headers, but when I send a regular email from the phone to myself, they both come through fine, and match. I'm stumped. The list owner *really* wants to turn off confirmations altogether, but I don't see any way to do this. Is there one? If confirmations absolutely can't be disabled, any ideas on why cell phone subscriptions fail, or what can be done about it? Thanks, Scot *From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *May 2, 2005 9:51:59 PM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: Uncaught bounce notification * The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://tinywords.com/mailman/admin/haiku_tinywords.com/bounce * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *May 2, 2005 9:51:54 PM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: confirm f9bc6456b89ec9c10360aaa140411e154f0ff60b * Want to subscribe to tinywords? Please reply to this message -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about welcome list email
Jared Nyland wrote: I have been trying to find away to remove the line that says (To post to this list, send your email to:)in the welcome to list email. I thought there was away to disable it in the admin options of a mailing list. Has someone done this before that can help out? Thanks in advance Jared From: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=confirmationquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search In Mailman 2.1.x you can customize the welcome message. Create a directory lists/yourlist/en (assuming English :) and copy templates/subscribeack.txt to this directory. Then edit this file for your specific wording. Mailman will use this specialized template for the English welcome messages. Works a treat! Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
FWIW, I found the command-line tools add_members and remove_members, which allowed me to write a simple shell script to manage subscribes and unsubscribes by drawing from files. So we'll have PHP forms for subbing and unsubbing, which will write to new_subs.txt and del_subs.txt. Then we just run this shell script once per hour, and get around the confirmations problem with cell phones (though I'm surprised -- aren't there any other mailman lists out there with people subbing their cell phones? you'd think there would be a better way...) #!/bin/sh # Add new subscribers to mailing list from text file # Then remove subscribers from an unsub list # Define location of subscribers text file: subfile=/home/username/listname_newsubs.txt # Define location of unsub file: unsubfile=/home/username/listname_delsubs.txt # Add all addresses in the sub file /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/add_members -w y -a y -r $subfile list_domain.com # Now blank the file for future additions echo $subfile # Unsub all addresses in the unsub file /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/remove_members -n -f $unsubfile list_domain.com # Now blank the file for future additions echo $unsubfile Works great! Scot Hacker wrote: I have a list owner who runs a list designed to be subscribed to from text-messaging cell phones (list traffic consists only of a daily haiku - very neat). People can use the web interface to sign up, but the confirmations are a problem. The subscription confirmation arrives at the phone, the user replies to it, and then... nada. Seems to go into a bit bucket. I've confirmed that the ID cookie does make it across just fine. A little later, the list owner receives a copy of the message below. At first I thought there was some discrepancy between the Return-Path: and the From: headers, but when I send a regular email from the phone to myself, they both come through fine, and match. I'm stumped. The list owner *really* wants to turn off confirmations altogether, but I don't see any way to do this. Is there one? If confirmations absolutely can't be disabled, any ideas on why cell phone subscriptions fail, or what can be done about it? Thanks, Scot *From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *May 2, 2005 9:51:59 PM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: Uncaught bounce notification * The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://tinywords.com/mailman/admin/haiku_tinywords.com/bounce * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *May 2, 2005 9:51:54 PM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: confirm f9bc6456b89ec9c10360aaa140411e154f0ff60b * Want to subscribe to tinywords? Please reply to this message -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/shacker%40birdhouse.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
Argh! Just minutes after finishing this up, I got a message from a friend. Turns out you CAN disable subscription confirmations. See: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg31306.html G... (although that solution will affect lists system-wide, rather than per-list; anyone know of a way to make tweaks like this per-list?). Scot Scot Hacker wrote: FWIW, I found the command-line tools add_members and remove_members, which allowed me to write a simple shell script to manage subscribes and unsubscribes by drawing from files. So we'll have PHP forms for subbing and unsubbing, which will write to new_subs.txt and del_subs.txt. Then we just run this shell script once per hour, and get around the confirmations problem with cell phones (though I'm surprised -- aren't there any other mailman lists out there with people subbing their cell phones? you'd think there would be a better way...) #!/bin/sh # Add new subscribers to mailing list from text file # Then remove subscribers from an unsub list # Define location of subscribers text file: subfile=/home/username/listname_newsubs.txt # Define location of unsub file: unsubfile=/home/username/listname_delsubs.txt # Add all addresses in the sub file /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/add_members -w y -a y -r $subfile list_domain.com # Now blank the file for future additions echo $subfile # Unsub all addresses in the unsub file /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/remove_members -n -f $unsubfile list_domain.com # Now blank the file for future additions echo $unsubfile Works great! Scot Hacker wrote: I have a list owner who runs a list designed to be subscribed to from text-messaging cell phones (list traffic consists only of a daily haiku - very neat). People can use the web interface to sign up, but the confirmations are a problem. The subscription confirmation arrives at the phone, the user replies to it, and then... nada. Seems to go into a bit bucket. I've confirmed that the ID cookie does make it across just fine. A little later, the list owner receives a copy of the message below. At first I thought there was some discrepancy between the Return-Path: and the From: headers, but when I send a regular email from the phone to myself, they both come through fine, and match. I'm stumped. The list owner *really* wants to turn off confirmations altogether, but I don't see any way to do this. Is there one? If confirmations absolutely can't be disabled, any ideas on why cell phone subscriptions fail, or what can be done about it? Thanks, Scot *From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *May 2, 2005 9:51:59 PM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: Uncaught bounce notification * The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://tinywords.com/mailman/admin/haiku_tinywords.com/bounce * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *May 2, 2005 9:51:54 PM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: confirm f9bc6456b89ec9c10360aaa140411e154f0ff60b * Want to subscribe to tinywords? Please reply to this message -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/shacker%40birdhouse.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/shacker%40birdhouse.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
