[Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread Elvis Fernandes
From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives.
Is this a correct statement?

For example, if I am NOT a member of mail-list, I can still go to
http://mailman/pipermail/mail-list
and browse the archives.

Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of
mail-list

In todays security world there sure must be a way. I would like to know
others experiences.

Thanks
Elvis
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread John Dennis
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 11:47 -0800, Elvis Fernandes wrote:
 From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives.
 Is this a correct statement?
 
 For example, if I am NOT a member of mail-list, I can still go to
 http://mailman/pipermail/mail-list
 and browse the archives.
 
 Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of
 mail-list
 
 In todays security world there sure must be a way. I would like to know
 others experiences.

Some lists are appropriate for public consumption, some are not. That is
why mailman supports both public and private archives, it is a per list
configuration.

However please note, the security protection on the private archives is
not terribly strong, it requires only a username/password, something
which by default is mailed in the clear once a month. Security in
general was not a prime design point for mailman, a limitation which is
recognized and hopefully will be better addressed in MM 3.0. If you have
very sensitive information in your archives you may want to consider an
alternate solution.
-- 
John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Making the archives private with a username / passwd access will be okay to
start with.

 Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This
 will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory

I see that the links are removed.

 and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private

That works!

Thanks
Elvis





On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elvis Fernandes wrote:

 From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives.
 Is this a correct statement?


 Only if the archives are public.


 Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of
 mail-list


 Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This
 will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory and force
 archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private. The links
 on admin and listinfo pages will use the private url, so everything
 will work except perhaps for old links that people have saved or
 posted in messages.

 --
 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The highway is for gamblers,
 San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan


--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Elvis Fernandes wrote:

From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the archives.
Is this a correct statement?


Only if the archives are public.


Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of
mail-list


Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This
will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory and force
archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private. The links
on admin and listinfo pages will use the private url, so everything
will work except perhaps for old links that people have saved or
posted in messages.

-- 
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread Elvis Fernandes
I guess I spoke too early!

When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list , the screen
displays The mail-list Archives.
But when I click on [thread] [Subject] [Author] [Date], it comes back with
the screen No such list 2005-december

Am I missing something?

Any info will be appreciated.

Thanks
Elvis

On 12/19/05, Elvis Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Making the archives private with a username / passwd access will be okay
 to start with.

  Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This
  will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory

 I see that the links are removed.

  and force archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private

 That works!

 Thanks
 Elvis


 


 On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Elvis Fernandes wrote:
 
  From a web browser, non-members of a mail list can browse the
  archives.
  Is this a correct statement?
 
 
  Only if the archives are public.
 
 
  Now, there must be a way to block non-members to browse the archives of
 
  mail-list
 
 
  Make the archive private on the list's Archiving Options page. This
  will remove the symlinks from the archives/public/ directory and force
  archive access to be via http://example.com/mailman/private. The links
  on admin and listinfo pages will use the private url, so everything
  will work except perhaps for old links that people have saved or
  posted in messages.
 
  --
  Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The highway is for gamblers,
  San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
 
 

--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Elvis Fernandes wrote:

I guess I spoke too early!

When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list , the screen
displays The mail-list Archives.
But when I click on [thread] [Subject] [Author] [Date], it comes back with
the screen No such list 2005-december


Try going to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list/

If the URL doesn't end in a slash, the browser will think the relative
link in the archives is relative to the previous slash.

Where did the http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list URL come
from? Was this a link on a Mailman page or did you just type it?

-- 
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive browsing question

2005-12-19 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Okay, going to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list/   does work.

 Where did the http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list URL come
 from? Was this a link on a Mailman page or did you just type it?

I typed it. When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private the screen tells
me  You must specify a list. So I specified mail-list. Now I know that the
trailing / needs to be there.

Thanks!
Elvis

On 12/19/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elvis Fernandes wrote:
 
 I guess I spoke too early!
 
 When I go to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list , the screen
 displays The mail-list Archives.
 But when I click on [thread] [Subject] [Author] [Date], it comes back
 with
 the screen No such list 2005-december


 Try going to http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list/

 If the URL doesn't end in a slash, the browser will think the relative
 link in the archives is relative to the previous slash.

 Where did the http://example.com/mailman/private/mail-list URL come
 from? Was this a link on a Mailman page or did you just type it?

 --
 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The highway is for gamblers,
 San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan


--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp