Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking few features for listadmin

2002-04-10 Thread Jon Carnes

This is a tough one.  The best way to handle it, is simply lay down the law
and remove admins who break your rules.

In addition to that, you can write a script that checks on list configs
regularly and reports any changes to you.  You can also have the script set
any values back to your preferred defaults for each list, and send a warning
note to the admins of the list.

A harder option is to edit the source code so that some values are not
displayed in the Web-admin.  Those options would have to be set by the
system admin via the command line tools.

...Actually, I just looked at the source code for the admin cgi and you can
easily put in an over-ride for any web-admin chosen variable.  So if they
wanted to change the size of an allowed email, it would look to them as
though they could change it, but whatever value they choose would be
over-ridden when posting. A static value compiled into the admin cgi would
be very easy, and it wouldn't be too hard to have a value dumped in via a
text file or database.

Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Blocking few features for listadmin



  I am running mailman ver 2.08 on Solaris 8 with
  multiple listadmins the problem some listadmin's are
  changing The list admin's email address and also
  Maximum length in Kb of a message body to 0 which
  is
  choking the servers. Can i customize the mailman so
  that these fileds will not be available for the list
  admin to change.

 Regards
 DK


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking few features for listadmin

2002-04-10 Thread Chuq Von Rospach

On 4/10/02 8:58 AM, Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a tough one.  The best way to handle it, is simply lay down the law
 and remove admins who break your rules.

I've had a couple of fights over this one. It's convinced me to create a
formal terms and conditions document outlining rights and responsibilities
of a list admin. Unfortunately, dinking with reply to is one of those
things that is forcing that issue, because I have a specific site-wide
standard, and once in a while, I have an admin who won't accept that (more
often, they don't remember, and it's unfair to yell at them because they
don't memorize the rules I don't have written down anywhere). I had that
discussion again this week, in fact.

So I'm going to formalize out a document explaining what the standards are,
and what the expectations for a list admin are. And violations like tweaking
frozen values cause admins to get locked out the frist time, repeated
violations will get an admin replaced or the list shut down. Right now, I'm
working on the trust you to cooperate mode, and while 95% of them do just
fine, that's just not good enough, and the fights that entail with that
other 5% just aren't constructive.


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[Mailman-Users] Blocking few features for listadmin

2002-04-09 Thread sunny


 I am running mailman ver 2.08 on Solaris 8 with
 multiple listadmins the problem some listadmin's are
 changing The list admin's email address and also
 Maximum length in Kb of a message body to 0 which
 is
 choking the servers. Can i customize the mailman so
 that these fileds will not be available for the list
 admin to change.

Regards
DK 


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