Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
Hello, Today, after doing some checking on the user's list, I found the errors associated with There is a bug in 2.1.6b4. in mailman's error log which I reported to this list a week ago. I don't know why I did not see it earlier. Here is a portion of the trace in the error log: Jul 07 09:30:39 2005 admin(12364): admin(12364): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.6b4 -] admin(12364): [- Traceback --] admin(12364): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(12364): main() admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 232, in main admin(12364): num = show_pending_subs(mlist, form) admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 276, in show_pending_subs admin(12364): pendingsubs = mlist.GetSubscriptionIds() admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 146, in GetSubscriptionIds admin(12364): return self.__getmsgids(SUBSCRIPTION) admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 138, in __getmsgids admin(12364): ids = [k for k, (op, data) in self.__db.items() if op == rtype] admin(12364): ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size Has anybody seen this? Should I send the complete trace to the developers list, so the can see what is going wrong? Regards, Darren Pifer Old Dominion University On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:46, John Dennis wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:08 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote: Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything logged to mailman's logs either. Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause security implications but may need to do this temporarily to find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman 2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will fix the problem. You may want to read the doc here: http://www.list.org/faq.html and search for STEALTH. I spoke in error, the local logging is not to your mailman error log but rather to syslog. Please note syslog is handled differently on different systems, you may have to tweak your syslog configuration to log the mailman errors. The only way I know of to disable STEALTH_MODE is to change its hardcoded setting in the driver script, you will have to locate this file and edit it. However, if you can, it really would be better to get your syslog working, you do want these errors logged and it really is better to keep sensitive information out of the public eye. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
I hate answering my question but I found this info from a google search. Has anyone else modified ListAdmin.py with these changes?: http://list.iskon.hr/~jelly/mailman-2.1.5-_UpdateRequests.diff Does this look reasonable? Darren Pifer Old Dominion University On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 13:22, Darren G Pifer wrote: Hello, Today, after doing some checking on the user's list, I found the errors associated with There is a bug in 2.1.6b4. in mailman's error log which I reported to this list a week ago. I don't know why I did not see it earlier. Here is a portion of the trace in the error log: Jul 07 09:30:39 2005 admin(12364): admin(12364): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.6b4 -] admin(12364): [- Traceback --] admin(12364): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(12364): main() admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 232, in main admin(12364): num = show_pending_subs(mlist, form) admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 276, in show_pending_subs admin(12364): pendingsubs = mlist.GetSubscriptionIds() admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 146, in GetSubscriptionIds admin(12364): return self.__getmsgids(SUBSCRIPTION) admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 138, in __getmsgids admin(12364): ids = [k for k, (op, data) in self.__db.items() if op == rtype] admin(12364): ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size Has anybody seen this? Should I send the complete trace to the developers list, so the can see what is going wrong? Regards, Darren Pifer Old Dominion University On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:46, John Dennis wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:08 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote: Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything logged to mailman's logs either. Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause security implications but may need to do this temporarily to find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman 2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will fix the problem. You may want to read the doc here: http://www.list.org/faq.html and search for STEALTH. I spoke in error, the local logging is not to your mailman error log but rather to syslog. Please note syslog is handled differently on different systems, you may have to tweak your syslog configuration to log the mailman errors. The only way I know of to disable STEALTH_MODE is to change its hardcoded setting in the driver script, you will have to locate this file and edit it. However, if you can, it really would be better to get your syslog working, you do want these errors logged and it really is better to keep sensitive information out of the public eye. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dpifer%40odu.edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
BTW, I found the changes to ListAdmin.py from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-coders@python.org/msg00255.html Darren On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 13:22, Darren G Pifer wrote: Hello, Today, after doing some checking on the user's list, I found the errors associated with There is a bug in 2.1.6b4. in mailman's error log which I reported to this list a week ago. I don't know why I did not see it earlier. Here is a portion of the trace in the error log: Jul 07 09:30:39 2005 admin(12364): admin(12364): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.6b4 -] admin(12364): [- Traceback --] admin(12364): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(12364): main() admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 232, in main admin(12364): num = show_pending_subs(mlist, form) admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 276, in show_pending_subs admin(12364): pendingsubs = mlist.GetSubscriptionIds() admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 146, in GetSubscriptionIds admin(12364): return self.__getmsgids(SUBSCRIPTION) admin(12364): File /usr1/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 138, in __getmsgids admin(12364): ids = [k for k, (op, data) in self.__db.items() if op == rtype] admin(12364): ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size Has anybody seen this? Should I send the complete trace to the developers list, so the can see what is going wrong? Regards, Darren Pifer Old Dominion University On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:46, John Dennis wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:08 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote: Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything logged to mailman's logs either. Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause security implications but may need to do this temporarily to find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman 2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will fix the problem. You may want to read the doc here: http://www.list.org/faq.html and search for STEALTH. I spoke in error, the local logging is not to your mailman error log but rather to syslog. Please note syslog is handled differently on different systems, you may have to tweak your syslog configuration to log the mailman errors. The only way I know of to disable STEALTH_MODE is to change its hardcoded setting in the driver script, you will have to locate this file and edit it. However, if you can, it really would be better to get your syslog working, you do want these errors logged and it really is better to keep sensitive information out of the public eye. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dpifer%40odu.edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 11:54 +0900, Jim Tittsler wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 04:59, Darren G Pifer wrote: [...] from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to look in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading Did you look in your Apache error logs? There may be a Python traceback there that would narrow down the problem. I'm pretty sure that 2.1.6b (as well as 2.1.6) have enabled stealth mode. This prevents stack traces from being visible on the web page for security reasons (you used to be able to see the stack traces). To analyze what caused a bug you'll need the stack trace. Although the stack trace is no longer visible it is logged on the system hosting mailman, I believe in the mailman error.log file, its location will be installation dependent (/var/log/mailman, /usr/local/mailman/log are common locations). -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything logged to mailman's logs either. Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause security implications but may need to do this temporarily to find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman 2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will fix the problem. Darren Old Dominion University On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 09:50, John Dennis wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 11:54 +0900, Jim Tittsler wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 04:59, Darren G Pifer wrote: [...] from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to look in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading Did you look in your Apache error logs? There may be a Python traceback there that would narrow down the problem. I'm pretty sure that 2.1.6b (as well as 2.1.6) have enabled stealth mode. This prevents stack traces from being visible on the web page for security reasons (you used to be able to see the stack traces). To analyze what caused a bug you'll need the stack trace. Although the stack trace is no longer visible it is logged on the system hosting mailman, I believe in the mailman error.log file, its location will be installation dependent (/var/log/mailman, /usr/local/mailman/log are common locations). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:08 -0400, Darren G Pifer wrote: Thanks for the information. You are correct, I have not seen anything in the Apache logs, however, I have not seen anything logged to mailman's logs either. Is there a way to disable stealth mode? I know this could cause security implications but may need to do this temporarily to find and fix the problem. We will be upgrading to Mailman 2.1.6 in the next week but am not feeling that this will fix the problem. You may want to read the doc here: http://www.list.org/faq.html and search for STEALTH. I spoke in error, the local logging is not to your mailman error log but rather to syslog. Please note syslog is handled differently on different systems, you may have to tweak your syslog configuration to log the mailman errors. The only way I know of to disable STEALTH_MODE is to change its hardcoded setting in the driver script, you will have to locate this file and edit it. However, if you can, it really would be better to get your syslog working, you do want these errors logged and it really is better to keep sensitive information out of the public eye. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
We recently received a report from one of users regarding a bug from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to look in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading the mailman software to 2.1.6 in hopes the bug will be fixed. Can someone tell me what I can look for? The following message is the one sent to our helpdesk address from the user: When I tried to log into approve a message that is when I got the error message. I typed in my password and it appeared. this is the message Bug in Mailman version 2.1.6b4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Regards, Darren Pifer Old Dominion University -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4
On Jul 8, 2005, at 04:59, Darren G Pifer wrote: [...] from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to look in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading Did you look in your Apache error logs? There may be a Python traceback there that would narrow down the problem. When I tried to log into approve a message that is when I got the error message. I typed in my password and it appeared. My first guess would be a permissions problem. Did you try running bin/check_perms to verify/fix any permissions problems on your new installation? -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
