Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+Postfix
roy vinner wrote: yes. I've tried sending me after this and it is still not coming through. Let me know if I should continue this on the postfix list, or install sendmail, or whatever. There should by no need to use Sendmail rather than Postfix. Lots of sites have Mailman working with Postfix. If postfix works in general for sending and receiving non-Mailman mail, there may be a Mailman issue of some kind. There may be an issue with aliases.db not being updated along with aliases. Your aliases file looked good in your original post. Is aliases.db being udated when you add lists? If not, check that it is both owner and group writable and that POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD is set to the correct path in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. If this is all OK, then a Postfix list is probably where you should take this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+Postfix
The issue was due to a local network firewall's blocking the IP address from outside the network. I had not been aware of its existence. Now the issue is fixed. Thank you and John for your suggestions. Gratefully, Roy Mark Sapiro wrote: roy vinner wrote: yes. I've tried sending me after this and it is still not coming through. Let me know if I should continue this on the postfix list, or install sendmail, or whatever. There should by no need to use Sendmail rather than Postfix. Lots of sites have Mailman working with Postfix. If postfix works in general for sending and receiving non-Mailman mail, there may be a Mailman issue of some kind. There may be an issue with aliases.db not being updated along with aliases. Your aliases file looked good in your original post. Is aliases.db being udated when you add lists? If not, check that it is both owner and group writable and that POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD is set to the correct path in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. If this is all OK, then a Postfix list is probably where you should take this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman + Postfix
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 18:50 -0500, roy vinner wrote: Greetings! I am having a problem with receiving any mail by the web server. On the other hand, outgoing mail is deliver okay. I suspect that it may be due to a misconfigured postfix. I'm sorry, but this does not make sense, perhaps its vocabulary. One never receives mail via a web server. I think what you're trying to say is that if someone attempts to send mail to your SMTP server (postfix) it fails, correct? If so make sure your SMTP server is listening for outside connectons: inet_interfaces = $myhostname, localhost Make sure your local_recipient_maps is correctly configured, you can turn it off this way for now: local_recipient_maps = Make sure your firewall is passing port 25 (SMTP) Then from another machine try this (replace mymachine.mynetwork with your DNS address): % telnet mymachine.mynetwork.com 25 Does postfix answer? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+ Postfix
John Dennis wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 18:50 -0500, roy vinner wrote: Greetings! I am having a problem with receiving any mail by the web server. On the other hand, outgoing mail is deliver okay. I suspect that it may be due to a misconfigured postfix. I'm sorry, but this does not make sense, perhaps its vocabulary. One never receives mail via a web server. I think what you're trying to say is that if someone attempts to send mail to your SMTP server (postfix) it fails, correct? You are right. I way saying 'receiving mail via a web server' because any mail sent to that machine should be processed there. There is no other dedicated mail server which would do a job for it like(host.domain.com for the server and mail.host.domain.com for the mail server). If so make sure your SMTP server is listening for outside connectons: inet_interfaces = $myhostname, localhost Make sure your local_recipient_maps is correctly configured, you can turn it off this way for now: local_recipient_maps = I've done both and rebooted the computer. Make sure your firewall is passing port 25 (SMTP) Then from another machine try this (replace mymachine.mynetwork with your DNS address): % telnet mymachine.mynetwork.com 25 I tried 'ping'ing and received no answer for 128.252.27.164 . My system admin tested it and reported that nothing is listening on that port: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet nrg.wustl.edu 25 Trying 128.252.27.164... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does postfix answer? So, what should I do next? Roy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+ Postfix
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 10:17 -0500, roy vinner wrote: I tried 'ping'ing and received no answer for 128.252.27.164 . My system admin tested it and reported that nothing is listening on that port: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet nrg.wustl.edu 25 Trying 128.252.27.164... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, this really isn't a mailman issue, its postfix, its best to move this discussion to a postfix list or better yet visit www.postfix.org and read their doc. But let me give you one last set of suggestions: Connection refused typically means the port you're trying to connect to (port 25) is blocked by a firewall. It can be blocked in a variety of places, either on the machine you're running the server on or by any other router in between. BTW, connection refused does not mean nothing is listening on the port. To see if something is listening on the port you must go the local machine the server is running and either try to connect locally # telnet localhost 25 -or- examine who is listening on the port using any of a variety of networking utilities, such as: # netstat -l -n | grep :25 or # netstat -l | grep smtp Using the first example: # netstat -l -n | grep :25 tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 192.168.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN This says port 25 is being listened on the localhost (loopback) because your loopback is 127.0.0.1 and its listening on 192.168.0.0 which is 192.168.0.0 (ficticious net addr). If nothing is listening on the external interface, then is postfix running? If so did you restart it after modify inet_interfaces to include the external interface? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+ Postfix
John Dennis wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 10:17 -0500, roy vinner wrote: I tried 'ping'ing and received no answer for 128.252.27.164 . My system admin tested it and reported that nothing is listening on that port: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet nrg.wustl.edu 25 Trying 128.252.27.164... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, this really isn't a mailman issue, its postfix, its best to move this discussion to a postfix list or better yet visit www.postfix.org and read their doc. But let me give you one last set of suggestions: Very much appreciated. I've installed and run pmfirewall and opened port 25 for both tcp and udp. Thank you for sticking up with me thus far :-). Connection refused typically means the port you're trying to connect to (port 25) is blocked by a firewall. It can be blocked in a variety of places, either on the machine you're running the server on or by any other router in between. BTW, connection refused does not mean nothing is listening on the port. To see if something is listening on the port you must go the local machine the server is running and either try to connect locally # telnet localhost 25 telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to nrg.wustl.edu (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. 220 nrg.wustl.edu ESMTP Postfix (2.1.4) (Mandrake Linux) hello 502 Error: command not implemented helo 501 Syntax: HELO hostname helo nrg 250 nrg.wustl.edu -or- examine who is listening on the port using any of a variety of networking utilities, such as: # netstat -l -n | grep :25 or # netstat -l | grep smtp Using the first example: # netstat -l -n | grep :25 tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 192.168.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN This says port 25 is being listened on the localhost (loopback) because your loopback is 127.0.0.1 and its listening on 192.168.0.0 which is 192.168.0.0 (ficticious net addr). My output is: tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN If nothing is listening on the external interface, then is postfix running? If so did you restart it after modify inet_interfaces to include the external interface? yes. I've tried sending me after this and it is still not coming through. Let me know if I should continue this on the postfix list, or install sendmail, or whatever. Many thanks for your assistance! Roy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman+ Postfix
John Dennis wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 12:56 -0500, roy vinner wrote: My output is: tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN snipped The output above is saying you're only listening on your local interface, thats a problem, nobody can connect to you. Postfix's inet_interfaces parameter is what controls what postfix listens to. To see your current postfix configuration do this: % postconf it will print out every postfix configuration parameter, look for inet_interfaces, for example my configuration is: inet_interfaces = $myhostname, localhost if you only have localhost thats the problem. If you include $myhostname (anything with $ in front is a postfix variable) look for the value of $myhostname in postconf's output, it should be your machine. Okay, I've got $postconf | grep host address_verify_relayhost = $relayhost inet_interfaces = $myhostname,localhost invalid_hostname_reject_code = 501 local_transport = local:$myhostname mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost myhostname = nrg.wustl.edu mynetworks_style = host myorigin = $myhostname relayhost = smtp_helo_name = $myhostname smtp_host_lookup = dns smtpd_authorized_xclient_hosts = smtpd_authorized_xforward_hosts = smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version) (Mandrake Linux) smtpd_proxy_ehlo = $myhostname unknown_hostname_reject_code = 450 $ There's a line there setting myhostname = nrg.wustl.edu, which is a symbolic name for my host. Is the order in which these appear incorrect, or there's something else? Thankfully, Roy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman + Postfix
Greetings! I am having a problem with receiving any mail by the web server. On the other hand, outgoing mail is deliver okay. I suspect that it may be due to a misconfigured postfix. I have tried all of the steps in the faq without any avail: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp . I've installed Mailman 2.1.6 from source on Mandrake 10.1 and followed the instructions for Mailman+ Postfix. I have also checked all the logs as per the faq entry and syslog: all of them seem to be fine. Any help will be appreciated. Roy My files are below. aliases: # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the # binary hash file aliases.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE # unless you know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly # in sync. If you screw it up, you're on your own. # The ultimate loop stopper address mailman-loop: /usr/local/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Mon Jul 25 17:19:03 2005 mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman # STANZA END: mailman # STANZA START: dan_test # CREATED: Mon Jul 25 17:19:03 2005 dan_test: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post dan_test dan_test-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin dan_test dan_test-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces dan_test dan_test-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm dan_test dan_test-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join dan_test dan_test-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave dan_test dan_test-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner dan_test dan_test-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request dan_test dan_test-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe dan_test dan_test-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe dan_test # STANZA END: dan_test # STANZA START: try # CREATED: Mon Jul 25 17:19:03 2005 try: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post try try-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin try try-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces try try-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm try try-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join try try-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave try try-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner try try-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request try try-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe try try-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe try # STANZA END: try virtual-mail: mailman.nrg.wustl.edu IGNORE @mailman.nrg.wustl.edu @nrg.wustl.edu virtusertable: ## ## Example virtusertable for use with a Mailman site running mm-handler. ## ## $Id: virtusertable,v 1.1 2001/10/27 02:30:51 bwarsaw Exp $ ## ## ## My server's hostname is nospam, but we don't honor that as a ## Mailman mail domain. Anything @nospam.uchicago.edu should be ## forwarded to our master Mailman admin address. ## [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] @mailman.nrg.wustl.edu[EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## Redirect mail to the standard Mailman admin addresses to the ## master admin address. (Midway.uchicago.edu is our site's central ## mail-routing server, and it carries aliases for maintenance groups. ## Not a good plan to entrust Mailman maintenance mail to Mailman.) ## [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## These addresses are required or recommended either by convention ## or by RFC 2142, Mailbox Names for Common Services, Roles and ## Functions. Honor them. ## [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] main.cf: # These are only the parameters changed from a default install # see /etc/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, fuller version of this file. # These are changed by postfix install script readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.1.4/README_FILES sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.1.4/samples html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.1.4/html sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix setgid_group = postdrop command_directory = /usr/sbin manpage_directory = /usr/share/man daemon_directory =
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming messages are not received in Mailman +Postfix
PS. I have no sendmail.cf file in my installation, since I am using postfix. I don't know if it matters. If it does, I may have to install sendmail. Roy roy vinner wrote: Greetings! I am having a problem with receiving any mail by the web server. On the other hand, outgoing mail is deliver okay. I suspect that it may be due to a misconfigured postfix. I have tried all of the steps in the faq without any avail: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp . I've installed Mailman 2.1.6 from source on Mandrake 10.1 and followed the instructions for Mailman+ Postfix. I have also checked all the logs as per the faq entry and syslog: all of them seem to be fine. Any help will be appreciated. Roy My files are below. aliases: # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the # binary hash file aliases.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE # unless you know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly # in sync. If you screw it up, you're on your own. # The ultimate loop stopper address mailman-loop: /usr/local/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Mon Jul 25 17:19:03 2005 mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman # STANZA END: mailman # STANZA START: dan_test # CREATED: Mon Jul 25 17:19:03 2005 dan_test: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post dan_test dan_test-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin dan_test dan_test-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces dan_test dan_test-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm dan_test dan_test-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join dan_test dan_test-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave dan_test dan_test-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner dan_test dan_test-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request dan_test dan_test-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe dan_test dan_test-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe dan_test # STANZA END: dan_test # STANZA START: try # CREATED: Mon Jul 25 17:19:03 2005 try: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post try try-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin try try-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces try try-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm try try-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join try try-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave try try-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner try try-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request try try-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe try try-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe try # STANZA END: try virtual-mail: mailman.nrg.wustl.edu IGNORE @mailman.nrg.wustl.edu @nrg.wustl.edu virtusertable: ## ## Example virtusertable for use with a Mailman site running mm-handler. ## ## $Id: virtusertable,v 1.1 2001/10/27 02:30:51 bwarsaw Exp $ ## ## ## My server's hostname is nospam, but we don't honor that as a ## Mailman mail domain. Anything @nospam.uchicago.edu should be ## forwarded to our master Mailman admin address. ## [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] @mailman.nrg.wustl.edu[EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## Redirect mail to the standard Mailman admin addresses to the ## master admin address. (Midway.uchicago.edu is our site's central ## mail-routing server, and it carries aliases for maintenance groups. ## Not a good plan to entrust Mailman maintenance mail to Mailman.) ## [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## These addresses are required or recommended either by convention ## or by RFC 2142, Mailbox Names for Common Services, Roles and ## Functions. Honor them. ## [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] main.cf: # These are only the parameters changed from a default install # see /etc/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, fuller version of this file. # These are changed by postfix install script readme_directory =
