Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list -Possibly Solved?

2005-07-27 Thread Josh Simoneau
John,

That did it for me, there was a config file in /etc/httpd/conf.d. I
haven't toyed much with that part of Apache in years and forgot that
existed. Thanks!

Regards,
Josh Simoneau

-Original Message-
From: John Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:47 PM
To: Josh Simoneau
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list
-Possibly Solved?

On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 11:18 -0400, Josh Simoneau wrote:
 So, my last challenge is to figure out why Apache is looking to 
 /var/mailman where I can't find anything in the config to tell it to 
 look there. Maybe its somewhere else. For a workaround I just renamed 
 the /var/mailman directory and created a symbolic link from 
 /var/mailman to /usr/local/mailman. It works, but I still want to know

 how to get Apache to look to the right spot.

Did you look in: /etc/httpd/conf.d? That directory has config files,
typically one per web service with the name of the service. Is there a
mailman.conf file in that directory? If not grep all the files there
looking for one that contains mailman.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list - Possibly Solved?

2005-07-26 Thread Josh Simoneau
Alrighty, thanks everyone for the help, I solved (or at least
worked-around) the issue.

Apparently someone some time ago installed a mailman RPM onto this
server and just left it for dead without setting up postfix and all that
jazz. It installed everything into /var/mailman where I am installing
everything into /usr/local/mailman. 

For some reason my web server was looking to /var/mailman for data, even
though I cannot find anything in httpd.conf that points to /var/mailman.
So, while I was happily updating and tinkering with everything in
/usr/local/mailman Apache was looking to the wrong place and not finding
the lists or proper passwords.

So, my last challenge is to figure out why Apache is looking to
/var/mailman where I can't find anything in the config to tell it to
look there. Maybe its somewhere else. For a workaround I just renamed
the /var/mailman directory and created a symbolic link from /var/mailman
to /usr/local/mailman. It works, but I still want to know how to get
Apache to look to the right spot. 

I do have in httpd.conf:
ScriptAlias /mailman/   /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias   /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/

That's not really the job of you folks here to troubleshoot Apache
issues, but if someone is feeling kind

Thanks again,
Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:05 AM
To: Josh Simoneau; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list

Josh Simoneau wrote:

The mailman list exists. I created it as defined in the installation 
manual, it sent an email to the given email address, and it appears to 
work properly on the email exchanging side of things. The web 
administration side of things, however, does not work at all. It says 
the list does not exist.

If I create a new list with the command line, again it sends out the 
appropriate email to the new list administrator. If I execute the 
'list-lists' command (syntax could be off on that) it lists the mailman

list, along with any others I have created. Any new list has the same 
issue, web administration fails, only with admin.py access for 
non-existant list: whatevernewlistname.

This has to be a case of the web server not being able to access the
lists/ directory or its subordinates. If bin/check_perms finds no
problems, maybe its a SELinux issue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list -Possibly Solved?

2005-07-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Josh Simoneau wrote:

For some reason my web server was looking to /var/mailman for data, even
though I cannot find anything in httpd.conf that points to /var/mailman.
So, while I was happily updating and tinkering with everything in
/usr/local/mailman Apache was looking to the wrong place and not finding
the lists or proper passwords.

So, my last challenge is to figure out why Apache is looking to
/var/mailman where I can't find anything in the config to tell it to
look there. Maybe its somewhere else. For a workaround I just renamed
the /var/mailman directory and created a symbolic link from /var/mailman
to /usr/local/mailman. It works, but I still want to know how to get
Apache to look to the right spot. 

I do have in httpd.conf:
ScriptAlias /mailman/   /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias   /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/

That's not really the job of you folks here to troubleshoot Apache
issues, but if someone is feeling kind

I don't think it's an Apache issue. I think it's mm_cfg.py/Defaults.py
- in particular the settings for

PREFIX  =
EXEC_PREFIX =
VAR_PREFIX  =

These should be properly set by ./configure from the defaults or values
provided with the

--prefix=dir
--exec-prefix=dir
--with-var-prefix=dir

options (see http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node7.html).

Normally, whatever configure sets these to is where things will be
installed and later found, but I'm guessing that somehow the wrong
mm_cfg.py/Defaults.py is being picked up somewhere. Maybe the wrappers
in cgi-bin/ are wrong or there's more than one ScriptAlias for mailman
in the Apache config. or maybe the wrong makefile was used by make.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] No such list mailman after creating list - Possibly Solved?

2005-07-26 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 11:18 -0400, Josh Simoneau wrote:
 So, my last challenge is to figure out why Apache is looking to
 /var/mailman where I can't find anything in the config to tell it to
 look there. Maybe its somewhere else. For a workaround I just renamed
 the /var/mailman directory and created a symbolic link from /var/mailman
 to /usr/local/mailman. It works, but I still want to know how to get
 Apache to look to the right spot. 

Did you look in: /etc/httpd/conf.d? That directory has config files,
typically one per web service with the name of the service. Is there a
mailman.conf file in that directory? If not grep all the files there
looking for one that contains mailman.
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