Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-Delivery of Mail

2017-01-29 Thread Barry S. Finkel

On 1/28/2017 12:26 PM, David Andrews wrote:

I run a cPanel system that, among other things, supports about 300
Mailman lists. We have about 20,000 users. I am getting lots of bounced
messages from roadrunner.com and various XXX.rr.com domains. It looks
like they may be blocking my domain nfbnet.org although I am not sure
how you tell.

When I look at a mail delivery report via cPanel, I see messages that
say 421 too many concurrent connections, connection refused.  What can I
change to fix this problem!

Thanks!


I have had the same problem sending to some XX.rr.com addresses,
buy not from a Mailman system.  I am sending from a system that
hosts many mailing lists; that system has 661 outbound IP addresses.
Obviously, I have no control when other organizations send e-mail,
and I have no control over what outbound address is used for the
SMTP connection.  And I do not know what the connection limits
are set by RoadRunner.  As Mark replied, I believe that this should
be a retryable error, but RR does not think so.  RR expects the sender
to re-send the mail at a later time.  I have had no problems sending
later (I have to re-compose the mail message); but again I do not know
if the re-send happens to be sent over a "good" (in RR terms) IP address
to the RR inbound mail servers.

--Barry Finkel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-Delivery of Mail

2017-01-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/28/2017 10:26 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> 
> When I look at a mail delivery report via cPanel, I see messages that
> say 421 too many concurrent connections, connection refused.  What can I
> change to fix this problem!


That's a retryable error and may or may not eventually be successfully
retried depending on what's actually causing it.

The recipient MX is saying your IP already has the maximum number of
concurrent connections open and it won't accept this additional one.

The connections in question are presumably those from Exim on the cPanel
host to the recipient MX since Mailman will never open more concurrent
delivery SMTP sessions to Exim than there are OutgoingRunner slices
(default 1).

You might be able to tell from the Exim logs how many other deliveries
to that MX have been started and not completed when the error occurs.

I'm not an Exim expert by any means, but it looks like Exim's
queue_run_max setting might affect this. The default is 5 which should
be small enough, but if you have it set to a large number or to 0 ->
unlimited, this could be the issue.

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[Mailman-Users] Non-Delivery of Mail

2017-01-28 Thread David Andrews
I run a cPanel system that, among other things, supports about 300 
Mailman lists. We have about 20,000 users. I am getting lots of 
bounced messages from roadrunner.com and various XXX.rr.com domains. 
It looks like they may be blocking my domain nfbnet.org although I am 
not sure how you tell.


When I look at a mail delivery report via cPanel, I see messages that 
say 421 too many concurrent connections, connection refused.  What 
can I change to fix this problem!


Thanks!

 


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