[Mailman-Users] Parallel list question

2014-05-03 Thread Rob Lingelbach
I once set this up long ago on mailman but took it down and now need to do it 
again but forgot how:

Want to have all subscribers to list A receive from, and be able to post to, 
list B. Purpose is to change the list title shown in the Subject: field, and 
have different admin options for list B. 

Thank you in advance. 
(And while I'm at it, thank you to those who have worked on the DMARC 
enhancements.)

Rob Lingelbach
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Parallel list question

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/02/2014 03:41 PM, Rob Lingelbach wrote:
 
 Want to have all subscribers to list A receive from, and be able to post to, 
 list B. Purpose is to change the list title shown in the Subject: field, and 
 have different admin options for list B. 


Since you want the list A subscribers to get the list A subject_prefix
for posts to list B, list A needs to be a member of (subscribed to) list
B. You can't make list A a regular_include_list of list B because the
members of list A would then see list B's subject_prefix in posts to list B.

So list A is a member of list B. You need to be sure that list A's user
options include no password reminders. You can't make list B an umbrella
list (see http://wiki.list.org/x/boA9) because list B has regular
members and an umbrella list has only lists as members.

Then for list A members to be able to post to list B, you need @lista
(or whatever it's name is) in list B's accept_these_nonmembers and for
list B posts to not be held for implicit destination by list A, you need
to put list B's address in list A's Privacy options... - Recipient
filters - acceptable_aliases or turn off require_explicit_destination.


 (And while I'm at it, thank you to those who have worked on the DMARC 
 enhancements.)


Thanks from all of us for your appreciation. It's been an exciting month ...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Parallel list question

2014-05-03 Thread Mike Starr
I'd like to add my thanks as well... the folks who have contributed to 
the discussion and I'm guessing a large number behind the scenes have 
done (and continue to do) a great service... not just to Mailman but to 
users all over the world who have no idea of the dedication and effort 
of those of you below their radar. Thank you all.


Best Regards,

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On 5/3/2014 12:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

(And while I'm at it, thank you to those who have worked on the DMARC 
enhancements.)

Thanks from all of us for your appreciation. It's been an exciting month ...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Parallel list question

2014-05-03 Thread Rob Lingelbach

 On May 3, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
 
 On 05/02/2014 03:41 PM, Rob Lingelbach wrote:
 
 Want to have all subscribers to list A receive from, and be able to post to, 
 list B. Purpose is to change the list title shown in the Subject: field, and 
 have different admin options for list B. 
 
 
 Since you want the list A subscribers to get the list A subject_prefix
 for posts to list B,

I should have been clearer that I do want list B's subject_prefix to change.  I 
think I can work it out now based on your suggestions...

Incidentally, this brings up (what might be considered) a sophomoric question: 
how to copy a list's config over to a test version of that list, without 
copying over the member list?  Probably a FAQ that I should be aware of...

Now back to understanding the conditions I should implement for an active 2000+ 
member list on the anvil of DMARC. 

Thanks again
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Parallel list question

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/03/2014 10:55 AM, Rob Lingelbach wrote:
 
 Incidentally, this brings up (what might be considered) a sophomoric 
 question: how to copy a list's config over to a test version of that list, 
 without copying over the member list?  Probably a FAQ that I should be aware 
 of...


Use Mailman's bin/config_list to dump the list's configuration to a
file; edit the file to remove or change list specific things like
real_name and maybe subject_prefix, etc, and then use config_list again
to apply the settings to the test list.

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