Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[david doonan]

Thanks Mark.

I ended up deleting and starting from scratch

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 05/07/2018 08:58 AM, David Doonan wrote:
> >
> > Exploring the server via SFTP, this troublesome list only has one
> folder, with a sub-folder called attachments.
> >
> > The rest of the lists are set up correctly, with two folders, one with
> the name of the list and the second with the name of the list and .mbox as
> a suffix.
> >
> > The troublesome list is not new; it was created a decade or more ago.
> Can’t believe that no has complained about the lack of archives.
> >
> > Is there a solution other than to re-install?
>
> It is possible that something was somehow deleted or lost from the
> archive. If you have any older backups, you might look for them.
>
> If not, if you have shell access, rather than just SFTP, what you need
> to do is create the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox directory and an
> empty archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file. These should
> have the same ownership and permissions as the ones for other lists, in
> particular drwxrwsr-x for the directory and -rw-rw-r-- for the file and
> mailman's group for both.
>
> Then run Mailman's
>
> bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME
>
> and that will create the (empty) archive.
>
> Alternatively, you can back up the lists/LISTNAME/ directory, containing
> the config.pck and other files. Then delete the list or just remove the
> lists/LISTNAME/ directory and then create the list and replace the
> lists/LISTNAME/ directory with the one you backed up. This should cerate
> the list with a "proper" empty archive and then restoring the
> lists/LISTNAME/ directory and contents will restore the list config and
> membership.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[David Doonan]

ignore all.

ended up deleting and reinstalling

> On May 7, 2018, at 11:58 AM, David Doonan  wrote:
> 
> I manage a couple of dozen mailman lists, all of which are functioning 
> correctly except for one.
> 
> When I go to the list archives, the following error message is displayed:
>> Private archive file not found
> 
> Tried changing the settings Archive Yes to No to Yes.
> 
> Tried changing the settings from Private to Public to Private.
> 
> Error message still appears.
> 
> Exploring the server via SFTP, this troublesome list only has one folder, 
> with a sub-folder called attachments.
> 
> The rest of the lists are set up correctly, with two folders, one with the 
> name of the list and the second with the name of the list and .mbox as a 
> suffix.
> 
> The troublesome list is not new; it was created a decade or more ago. Can’t 
> believe that no has complained about the lack of archives.
> 
> Is there a solution other than to re-install?
> 
> david
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Mark Sapiro]

On 05/07/2018 08:58 AM, David Doonan wrote:
> 
> Exploring the server via SFTP, this troublesome list only has one folder, 
> with a sub-folder called attachments.
> 
> The rest of the lists are set up correctly, with two folders, one with the 
> name of the list and the second with the name of the list and .mbox as a 
> suffix.
> 
> The troublesome list is not new; it was created a decade or more ago. Can’t 
> believe that no has complained about the lack of archives.
> 
> Is there a solution other than to re-install?

It is possible that something was somehow deleted or lost from the
archive. If you have any older backups, you might look for them.

If not, if you have shell access, rather than just SFTP, what you need
to do is create the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox directory and an
empty archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file. These should
have the same ownership and permissions as the ones for other lists, in
particular drwxrwsr-x for the directory and -rw-rw-r-- for the file and
mailman's group for both.

Then run Mailman's

bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME

and that will create the (empty) archive.

Alternatively, you can back up the lists/LISTNAME/ directory, containing
the config.pck and other files. Then delete the list or just remove the
lists/LISTNAME/ directory and then create the list and replace the
lists/LISTNAME/ directory with the one you backed up. This should cerate
the list with a "proper" empty archive and then restoring the
lists/LISTNAME/ directory and contents will restore the list config and
membership.

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[Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[David Doonan]

I manage a couple of dozen mailman lists, all of which are functioning 
correctly except for one.

When I go to the list archives, the following error message is displayed:
> Private archive file not found

Tried changing the settings Archive Yes to No to Yes.

Tried changing the settings from Private to Public to Private.

Error message still appears.

Exploring the server via SFTP, this troublesome list only has one folder, with 
a sub-folder called attachments.

The rest of the lists are set up correctly, with two folders, one with the name 
of the list and the second with the name of the list and .mbox as a suffix.

The troublesome list is not new; it was created a decade or more ago. Can’t 
believe that no has complained about the lack of archives.

Is there a solution other than to re-install?

david





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Rob Smithers]

Thanks for the help.  I found the problem.  We had a new mod_security
rule that was causing the problem.  I fixed the rule, and everything's
working again.

Thanks,
Rob

On 11/2/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Smithers wrote:
 
 That's what I thought at first, but the rewrite modules is disabled in
 the Apache config, and there are not even commented rewrite rules in
 the httpd.conf.  I've checked through the directory structure, and
 there are no .htaccess files enabling mod_rewrite, or setting any
 rewrite rules.


 What's in Apache's logs for these GETs?

 Do you have any public archives? If so, do public archive URLs work?

 You could do some tests. Try manually entering URLs in your browser like

 http://example.com/bad/path/to/thread.html

 http://example.com/mailman/noscript/nolist/thread.html

 http://example.com/mailman/admin/thelist/thread.html

 and see what happens.

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[Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Rob Smithers]

Hello,
  I'm hoping that one of you can shed some light on a problem that
I'm having with several established mailing lists.  I recently moved
all of my lists over to an SSL based connection.  After the move I
foud that none of my list archives, public and private, are available.
 The archive files are being updated, and if I go ingot the html files
on the server I can see all of the messages.  The problem is that
Mailman is trying to send all archive traffic to .php extensions when
all of the archive files have .html extensions.  If I try for a thread
view, which should, according to the index.html file launch
thread.html, Mailman tries to launch thread.php which doesn't exist.
  When I made the change to SSL I used the ./withlist -l -a -r
fix_url command.  The only change I made was to make the
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN setting https://... in the Defaults.py file.  I'm
not running Mod_Rewrite with Apache, and can't find any potential
culprits other than Mailman itself.  Does anyone know what might be
causing this?

I'm running Mailman version 2.1.9, with up to date Apache web server
software on an up to date Linux OS.  The standard permissions on my
archive files are:

drwxrwsr-x2 mailman  mailman  4096 Sep 29 19:17 .
drwxrwsr-x   10 webuser   mailman  4096 Oct 16 03:27 ..
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  7289 Sep  8 04:15 60.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  7154 Sep  8 23:30 61.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  4040 Sep 15 18:32 62.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  6229 Sep 22 20:38 63.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  3144 Sep 24 17:46 64.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  6778 Sep 29 19:17 65.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  5586 Sep 29 19:17 66.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  2476 Sep 29 19:17 author.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  2480 Sep 29 19:17 date.html
lrwxrwxrwx1 mailman  mailman11 Sep  2 17:45 index.html -
thread.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  2474 Sep 29 19:17 subject.html
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  2637 Sep 29 19:17 thread.html

Thanks for your help,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Mark Sapiro]

Rob Smithers wrote:

The problem is that
Mailman is trying to send all archive traffic to .php extensions when
all of the archive files have .html extensions.  If I try for a thread
view, which should, according to the index.html file launch
thread.html, Mailman tries to launch thread.php which doesn't exist.


So, are you saying that you go to
http://example.com/mailman/private/thelist/ and you get to the
list's archive index file and there you find a 'thread' link to
http://example.com/mailman/private/thelist/2006-November/thread.html
and you try to go to that and get directed to the non-existent
http://example.com/mailman/private/thelist/2006-November/thread.php
instead?

If so, I think this must be due to some rewrite rule in your Apache
configuration.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Rob Smithers]

On 11/2/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Smithers wrote:

 The problem is that
 Mailman is trying to send all archive traffic to .php extensions when
 all of the archive files have .html extensions.  If I try for a thread
 view, which should, according to the index.html file launch
 thread.html, Mailman tries to launch thread.php which doesn't exist.


 So, are you saying that you go to
 http://example.com/mailman/private/thelist/ and you get to the
 list's archive index file and there you find a 'thread' link to
 http://example.com/mailman/private/thelist/2006-November/thread.html
 and you try to go to that and get directed to the non-existent
 http://example.com/mailman/private/thelist/2006-November/thread.php
 instead?


Yes, that's what currently happens.

 If so, I think this must be due to some rewrite rule in your Apache
 configuration.


That's what I thought at first, but the rewrite modules is disabled in
the Apache config, and there are not even commented rewrite rules in
the httpd.conf.  I've checked through the directory structure, and
there are no .htaccess files enabling mod_rewrite, or setting any
rewrite rules.

Thanks,
Rob
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Mark Sapiro]

Rob Smithers wrote:

That's what I thought at first, but the rewrite modules is disabled in
the Apache config, and there are not even commented rewrite rules in
the httpd.conf.  I've checked through the directory structure, and
there are no .htaccess files enabling mod_rewrite, or setting any
rewrite rules.


What's in Apache's logs for these GETs?

Do you have any public archives? If so, do public archive URLs work?

You could do some tests. Try manually entering URLs in your browser like

http://example.com/bad/path/to/thread.html

http://example.com/mailman/noscript/nolist/thread.html

http://example.com/mailman/admin/thelist/thread.html

and see what happens.

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[Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[Ákos Maróy]

I have the following problem with a new installation of mailman on
CentOS Linux 4.1.

I created my first list, and set the archives to be private. but when I
try to access the archives, I get:

Private archive file not found

in the browser. moreover, in the mailman error log, I get the following:

Jul 15 10:22:25 2005 (14959) Private archive file not found:
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/


but it's all very strange, as the archives are actually there:

$ ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/
total 48
drwxrwsr-x  2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman  229 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July.txt
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman  232 Jul 15 03:27 2005-July.txt.gz
drwxrws---  2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 database
-rw-rw-r--  1 rootmailman 1025 Jul 14 13:08 index.html
-rw-rw  1 mailman mailman  845 Jul 14 13:08 pipermail.pck



and also, if I set the archives to be public, they are accessible
through the link to myserver.com/pipermail/...

what could be the issue here?


Akos
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found

[John Dennis]

On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:24 +0200, Ákos Maróy wrote:
 I have the following problem with a new installation of mailman on
 CentOS Linux 4.1.

CentOS :-(

 I created my first list, and set the archives to be private. but when I
 try to access the archives, I get:
 
 Private archive file not found
 
 in the browser. moreover, in the mailman error log, I get the following:
 
 Jul 15 10:22:25 2005 (14959) Private archive file not found:
 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/
 
 
 but it's all very strange, as the archives are actually there:
 
 $ ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/
 total 48
 drwxrwsr-x  2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July
 -rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman  229 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July.txt
 -rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman  232 Jul 15 03:27 2005-July.txt.gz
 drwxrws---  2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 database
 -rw-rw-r--  1 rootmailman 1025 Jul 14 13:08 index.html
 -rw-rw  1 mailman mailman  845 Jul 14 13:08 pipermail.pck
 
 
 
 and also, if I set the archives to be public, they are accessible
 through the link to myserver.com/pipermail/...
 
 what could be the issue here?

It might be an SELinux policy violation.

Take a look in your /var/log/messages (or /var/log/audit/audit.log) file
after you get the failure and see if there is avc message denying access
(grep for avc:). I seem to recall a bug in an early version of
selinux-policy-targeted related to private archives which was fixed a
while ago by us.

If you do see such a message the solution is to upgrade the
selinux-policy-targeted rpm (or as a test you could put SELinux into
permissive mode, but you really don't want to run an open server in
permissive mode).

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