[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-29 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 8/18/21 1:15 PM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote:

Folks:

Is anyone else seeing requests to their mailman install that look 
something like this:


Aug 18 15:10:16 2021 (31166) Hostile listname: 
listname=midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$: 
remote=52.34.76.65


Basically, the list name is correct, but the added "__;!NV..." makes it 
invalid.



A web request for a list with name 
'midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$' 
was received from IP 52.34.76.65. I.e., something like

http://example.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$

The listname is considered hostile because it contains characters not in 
the set mm_cfg.ACCEPTABLE_LISTNAME_CHARACTERS (default [-+_.=a-z0-9]).


This is not usually anything of concern. Brain dead web crawlers do 
things like this all the time. Check your web server logs for more info.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-29 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Jon Baron wrote:

>> Aug 18 15:10:16 2021 (31166) Hostile listname: 
>> listname=midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$:
>>  
>> remote=52.34.76.65
>> 
>> Basically, the list name is correct, but the added "__;!NV..." makes it 
>> invalid.
>
> But I don't understand what you mean by "hostile
> listname" being "correct".

"midrange-l" is a correct name of an existing list.

"midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$"
is not.

-thh
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-19 Thread Jon Baron
I don't understand the terms you use. So I will not comment further on
this thread. "Web UI"? "Email"?

However, I did suggest using Google to find out more about
Proofpoint. All the information is there. They do have a goal. Whether
they achieve it, I do not know.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-19 Thread David Gibbs via Mailman-Users

On 8/18/21 3:36 PM, Jon Baron wrote:

I'm pretty sure that this comes from Proofpoint's "URL Defense"
system. 


Ah. OK.


But I don't understand what you mean by "hostile
listname" being "correct".


The listname before the garbage is correct.


 I suggest running all messages through .procmailrc
with this recipe:


The mangled list names are in the web UI, not email.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-19 Thread David Gibbs via Mailman-Users

On 8/18/21 11:34 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Is anyone else seeing requests to their mailman install that look
something like this:

Aug 18 15:10:16 2021 (31166) Hostile listname: 
listname=midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$:
remote=52.34.76.65


What log is that from?  I don't recognize the format.


mischief


  > But I don't understand what you mean by "hostile
  > listname" being "correct".

He means that "midrange-l" is the name of an active list at his site,
I'm pretty sure.


Exactly correct.


host(1) says the source or the request is AWS. :-/

None of this explains why the URL is targeting David's Mailman, unless
it's the Mailman host that is running the Proofpoint.  (It's not your
job ;-), but any further hints would be appreciates.


These requests are coming from an external source. I'm not running 
proofpoint.


Not much I can do about it, I guess.  Good to know the source of the 
requests though.


Not sure what proofpoint is trying to do. They are just getting errors.

Oh well.

Thanks for the info guys.

david

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On 08/18/21 15:15, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote:

> Is anyone else seeing requests to their mailman install that look
> something like this:
> 
> Aug 18 15:10:16 2021 (31166) Hostile listname: 
> listname=midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$:
> remote=52.34.76.65

What log is that from?  I don't recognize the format.

Jon Baron writes:

 > I'm pretty sure that this comes from Proofpoint's "URL Defense"
 > system. (Google it.)

Argh.

 > But I don't understand what you mean by "hostile
 > listname" being "correct".

He means that "midrange-l" is the name of an active list at his site,
I'm pretty sure.

 > What comes before the __ is usually a URL, and there is also a __
 > BEFORE the url begins. If you use a graphical mail client (like
 > gmail), [and] click the url that you see, Proofpoint will check it
 > to see if it is on a list of nasty sites.

host(1) says the source or the request is AWS. :-/

None of this explains why the URL is targeting David's Mailman, unless
it's the Mailman host that is running the Proofpoint.  (It's not your
job ;-), but any further hints would be appreciates.

Steve
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-18 Thread Jon Baron
I'm pretty sure that this comes from Proofpoint's "URL Defense"
system. (Google it.) But I don't understand what you mean by "hostile
listname" being "correct". What comes before the __ is usually a URL,
and there is also a __ BEFORE the url begins. If you use a graphical
mail client (like gmail), you don't see this extra junk, but if you
click the url that you see, Proofpoint will check it to see if it is
on a list of nasty sites. If you want to see the URL alone with a text
client (like mutt), I suggest running all messages through .procmailrc
with this recipe:

:0 f
| /usr/bin/sed -e "s/__/  /g"

This will replace __ with spaces, leaving the url itself standing
alone.

Jon

On 08/18/21 15:15, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Folks:
> 
> Is anyone else seeing requests to their mailman install that look
> something like this:
> 
> Aug 18 15:10:16 2021 (31166) Hostile listname: 
> listname=midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1ogZzQKRRsw$:
> remote=52.34.76.65
> 
> Basically, the list name is correct, but the added "__;!NV..." makes
> it invalid.
> 
> The pattern is rather consistent ... "__;!NV" followed by a bunch of
> garbage.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

2021-08-18 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 8/18/2021 1:15 PM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote:

The pattern is rather consistent ... "__;!NV" followed by a bunch of garbage.


I don't recognize the encoding, but that looks like someone is trying an SQL 
injection attack. I could also be wrong.


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