Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
John Dennis wrote:

Did you install the Red Hat rpm?

Are you positive SELinux is disabled? There was a bug in the FC3
security policy that caused web based list creation to fail, command
line worked fine.

Have you looked for error messages in /var/log/mailman/error
and /var/log/messages (in /var/log/messages you especially want to look
for lines with avc)
  

So, I just uninstalled mailman via yum and reinstalled from source and 
get exactly the same behavior. I am returned to the create list page 
with no error messages indicated anywhere - not in any of the logs, nor 
in the browser. Ack, this is really strange.

I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?

/usr/sbin/getenforce


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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
John Dennis wrote:

On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
  

I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?



/usr/sbin/getenforce


  

Says disabled - whew. So the question remains, why no new list? I 
suppose I can live with creating lists from the command line as there 
will not likely be very many lists, but it'd sure be nice if I knew why 
the web interface failed. Everything else seems to work just fine.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:36 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 John Dennis wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:13 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 I am certain that SELinux is disabled, but how can I verify that?
 
 /usr/sbin/getenforce
 
 Says disabled - whew. So the question remains, why no new list? I 
 suppose I can live with creating lists from the command line as there 
 will not likely be very many lists, but it'd sure be nice if I knew why 
 the web interface failed. Everything else seems to work just fine.

That is as much as I can help you with at the moment in the absence of
any error messages in any of the logs. Given the problem you were seeing
sounded a lot like a known issue with one version of the FC3 security
policy it sounded at first like I might know what was going on, but
since SELinux is off it can't be that issue. Sorry I can't be of more
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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
Ok, here's another clue. I was apparently wrong when I said previously 
that all else was working well.

It turns out that I can submit a subscription request to the mailman 
site list and the administrator gets a notification to visit the admin 
page to take action. When I attempt to approve the subscription, I am 
immediately returned to the admin page again with no action having been 
taken.

I also manually subscribed a user and went to the web page to 
unsubscribe that user. I enter the address of the user to unsubscribe 
and click the unsub or edit options button.  I see the page member 
options for user [EMAIL PROTECTED] and when I click the Unsubscribe button, 
I get an error message no address given. I've looked at the page 
source and can see a hidden input field with [EMAIL PROTECTED] clearly listed.

I'm beginning to suspect something with python or cgi, but some things 
seem to work.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:25 PM -0700 2005-05-25, Bo Gusman wrote:

  I'm beginning to suspect something with python or cgi, but some things
  seem to work.

Sounds like you might be having the classic redirect problem. 
See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-25 Thread Bo Gusman
Thanks gents for your continuing help. I think I've solved the problem.

Brad gave me pointers to some FAQ items that have changed the behavior. 
I think part of the problem was related to the apache redirect that I 
was making to ssl. Then, creating the list showed an error on the screen 
that says: We encountered a bug ... mailman log.

/var/log/mailman/error showed

May 25 15:42:27 2005 (5427) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias 
/etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

Searching the faq again revealed: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=editfile=faq06.009.htp

ls -l /etc/mailman/aliases* showed

660 aliases
620 aliases.db

Clearly wrong. Reset them according to the faq, 660.

I'm guessing the original problem was due to ssl redirect and the perms 
problem an artifact of installing the rpm and removing, installing from 
source and removing, and then reinstalling from rpm. I'll do some 
additional testing tonight and see what happens.

Thanks again!

Bo


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[Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-24 Thread Bo Gusman
On my FC3 box w/o SELinux, I just installed and configured the mailman 
rpm according to the instructions at the mailman website. I can create a 
list from the command line and can send mail to it and receive mail from 
it. I can load the web interface and do most of the usual things. 
However, I cannot create a new list. I've reset the site password 
assuming that I missentered it somehow, but I get no change in behavior.

Any clues?

Bo

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bo Gusman wrote:

On my FC3 box w/o SELinux, I just installed and configured the mailman 
rpm according to the instructions at the mailman website. I can create a 
list from the command line and can send mail to it and receive mail from 
it. I can load the web interface and do most of the usual things. 
However, I cannot create a new list. I've reset the site password 
assuming that I missentered it somehow, but I get no change in behavior.


What is the symptom? What happens when you click Create List?

Are you using virtual hosts? Is the host name in the URL of the create
page in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary (add_virtualhost() in mm_cfg.py)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't make a new list from the GUI

2005-05-24 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 13:52 -0700, Bo Gusman wrote:
 On my FC3 box w/o SELinux, I just installed and configured the mailman 
 rpm according to the instructions at the mailman website. I can create a 
 list from the command line and can send mail to it and receive mail from 
 it. I can load the web interface and do most of the usual things. 
 However, I cannot create a new list. I've reset the site password 
 assuming that I missentered it somehow, but I get no change in behavior.
 
 Any clues?

Did you install the Red Hat rpm?

Are you positive SELinux is disabled? There was a bug in the FC3
security policy that caused web based list creation to fail, command
line worked fine.

Have you looked for error messages in /var/log/mailman/error
and /var/log/messages (in /var/log/messages you especially want to look
for lines with avc)
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