Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing not made easy?
On 12/7/18 5:06 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He > addressed the message to the list address , with the > subject "unsubscribe", and else nothing. But instead of his unsubsciption > being processed, Mailman sent a message to the kist owners telling us to > approve or reject the message. > > As a reason it was mentioned "message might contain mailman commands". The message was held and the owners were notified because the list's web admin General Options -> administrivia setting is Yes. If it were No, the message would have been accepted as a post and delivered to the list members. > Of course, at the end of each list message a footer is added mentioning the > address - but isn't it a standard alternative > procedure to unsubscibe using the command in the subject field of an else > empty message? If such a message is sent to the listname-request address, it would be processed as an unsubscribe command. Given that it was sent to the list posting address, when administrivia is Yes, the message is held so an owner/moderator can review it and take appropriate action. > Is there anything I could do with the list configuration to correct the > behaviour? The behavior you observed is exactly as intended. If administrivia is Yes, Mailman attempts to recognize messages with commands sent to the list rather than -request and hold them for owner/moderator action. Since it is not possible in all cases to determine the intent of the sender, it is better to have a human review the message than to have something that was not intended to be a command be processed as a command. Mailman is doing the right thing. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing not made easy?
Hi Am 07.12.18 um 14:06 schrieb Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users: > > I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7. > > Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He > addressed the message to the list address , with the > subject "unsubscribe", and else nothing. But instead of his unsubsciption > being processed, Mailman sent a message to the kist owners telling us to > approve or reject the message. > > As a reason it was mentioned "message might contain mailman commands". > > Of course, at the end of each list message a footer is added mentioning the > address - but isn't it a standard alternative > procedure to unsubscibe using the command in the subject field of an else > empty message? > No. > Is there anything I could do with the list configuration to correct the > behaviour? > No, as the behaviour is correct. Your list owners could manually remove the user as requested. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing on ARF reports
* Stefan Foerster cite+mailman-us...@incertum.net: The subject pretty much sums it up: How do I unsubscribe morons^Wusers that report list mail as spam instead of unsubscribing, causing ARF reports from their mail service providers? Just do it :) I know the python.org listmasters have some working Python scripts to do that stuff (it's mentioned in Ralf's/Patrick's deliverability slides), do you guys share? No scripts. It's merely reading the ARF -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing on ARF reports
* Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de: * Stefan Foerster cite+mailman-us...@incertum.net: I know the python.org listmasters have some working Python scripts to do that stuff (it's mentioned in Ralf's/Patrick's deliverability slides), do you guys share? No scripts. It's merely reading the ARF WTF?!? That must be a pretty low volume of ARFs. arf arf Stefan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing on ARF reports
I know the python.org listmasters have some working Python scripts to do that stuff (it's mentioned in Ralf's/Patrick's deliverability slides), do you guys share? No scripts. It's merely reading the ARF WTF?!? That must be a pretty low volume of ARFs. Yep. maybe two per week. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Bonojour, J'ai créé une liste de distribution avec ses abonnés et un modérateur. Parmi les abonnées se trouve d'autres listes de distribution, X, Y,Z. Comment faire pour que, une fois que le modérateur approuve un message, les abonnées des liste de distribution X,Y,Z reçoivent tout de suite le message approuvé sans que les modérateur de ces listes ré approuve encore le message envoyé? Ces listes de distribution sont des abonnées qui contiennent d'autres abonnées. Merci Bien à vous Marie Yvette Leguojeu Le 7 janvier 2010 09:00, Marie-Yvette INGABIRE donsmil...@gmail.com a écrit : Olda, Vous débrouillez bien en français...j'ai compris ce que m'avais écris. je vais donc contacter mon administrateur pour voir ce qu'il peut faire. Merci Marie-Yvette Le 6 janvier 2010 22:06, Terri Oda te...@zone12.com a écrit : Marie-Yvette, (Apologies en advance: je n'ecrit pas tellement bien en français.) Oui, les messages rejectés ne vais pas etre au archive -- c'est normal. Si tu veut un record personel, vous pouvez t'envoyé un copie manuellement avec l'interface web chaque fois que vous rejet une message, ou vous pouvez utilizé l'option pour préserver au disque. Malheureusement, nous ne peuvons pas t'aider avec activer cet option: Vous avez contacté la liste mailman-users, une liste pour les personnes qui utilize le logiciel Mailman. Mais pour activer cet option, il faut que vous contact votre adminstrateur du site pour votre liste specifique. Je ne savent pas qui ce serait. Terri Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en train de configurer la catégorie une liste de distribution, pour avoir un archivage de message assez utile pour moi. Après les tests que j'ai faits jusqu'à maintenant, les messages approuvés sont archivés, tandis que ceux qui sont rejetés, je ne trouve pas de trace. D'après la catégorie de configuration *Filtre de contenu*, option *Détails de filter action* il y a différents choix. Quand on choisi de Préserver les messages supprimés, ils expliquent que ces messages(rejetés) sont sauvé dans une *file* d'atteinte du disque pour que l'administrateur de la liste puisse les voir ou les récupérer s'il le veut ou les supprimer tout court. Mais cet option est disponible seulement après activation par l'administrateur du site. Est-il possible d'activer cet option ? Merci Cordialement, Marie Yvette Leguojeu 2010/1/6 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donsmile68%40gmail.com -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
On 1/8/2010 1:04 AM, Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: J'ai créé une liste de distribution avec ses abonnés et un modérateur. Parmi les abonnées se trouve d'autres listes de distribution, X, Y,Z. Comment faire pour que, une fois que le modérateur approuve un message, les abonnées des liste de distribution X,Y,Z reçoivent tout de suite le message approuvé sans que les modérateur de ces listes ré approuve encore le message envoyé? Ces listes de distribution sont des abonnées qui contiennent d'autres abonnées. A rough translation from http://www.online-translator.com/Default.aspx/Text I created a list of distribution with his subscribers and a moderator. Among the subscribers is of other lists of distribution, X, Y, Z. How make so that, once the moderator approves a message, the subscribers of list of distribution X, Y, Z receive right away the approved message without that moderator of these lists ré still approves the sent message? These lists of distribution are subscribers who contain others subscribers. This question is addressed in the FAQs at http://wiki.list.org/x/boA9 and http://wiki.list.org/x/1IA9. You may also wish to consider that instead of adding the X,Y and Z lists as members of the parent list you can add them as regular_include_lists as discussed at the end of the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9. Also, please note that mailman-users@python.org is an English language list. It is impolite to post in other languages that many list members do not understand. We try to be as helpful as we can, but we request that posts be in English. Machine translation of the above: Cette question est adressée dans le FAQs à http://wiki.list.org/x/boA9 et http://wiki.list.org/x/1IA9. Vous pouvez vouloir aussi estimer qu'au lieu d'ajouter les X, Y et Z énumère comme les membres de la liste parentale vous pouvez les ajouter comme regular_include_lists comme discuté à la fin du FAQ à http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9. Aussi, notez s'il vous plaît qu'est mailman-users@python.org une liste de langue anglaise. Il est impoli pour voyager par la poste dans d'autres langues que beaucoup de membres de liste ne comprennent pas. Nous essayons d'être aussi secourables que nous pouvons, mais nous demandons que les postes soient en anglais. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Olda, Vous débrouillez bien en français...j'ai compris ce que m'avais écris. je vais donc contacter mon administrateur pour voir ce qu'il peut faire. Merci Marie-Yvette Le 6 janvier 2010 22:06, Terri Oda te...@zone12.com a écrit : Marie-Yvette, (Apologies en advance: je n'ecrit pas tellement bien en français.) Oui, les messages rejectés ne vais pas etre au archive -- c'est normal. Si tu veut un record personel, vous pouvez t'envoyé un copie manuellement avec l'interface web chaque fois que vous rejet une message, ou vous pouvez utilizé l'option pour préserver au disque. Malheureusement, nous ne peuvons pas t'aider avec activer cet option: Vous avez contacté la liste mailman-users, une liste pour les personnes qui utilize le logiciel Mailman. Mais pour activer cet option, il faut que vous contact votre adminstrateur du site pour votre liste specifique. Je ne savent pas qui ce serait. Terri Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en train de configurer la catégorie une liste de distribution, pour avoir un archivage de message assez utile pour moi. Après les tests que j'ai faits jusqu'à maintenant, les messages approuvés sont archivés, tandis que ceux qui sont rejetés, je ne trouve pas de trace. D'après la catégorie de configuration *Filtre de contenu*, option *Détails de filter action* il y a différents choix. Quand on choisi de Préserver les messages supprimés, ils expliquent que ces messages(rejetés) sont sauvé dans une *file* d'atteinte du disque pour que l'administrateur de la liste puisse les voir ou les récupérer s'il le veut ou les supprimer tout court. Mais cet option est disponible seulement après activation par l'administrateur du site. Est-il possible d'activer cet option ? Merci Cordialement, Marie Yvette Leguojeu 2010/1/6 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donsmile68%40gmail.com -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Bonjour, Je suis en train de configurer la catégorie une liste de distribution, pour avoir un archivage de message assez utile pour moi. Après les tests que j'ai faits jusqu'à maintenant, les messages approuvés sont archivés, tandis que ceux qui sont rejetés, je ne trouve pas de trace. D'après la catégorie de configuration *Filtre de contenu*, option *Détails de filter action* il y a différents choix. Quand on choisi de Préserver les messages supprimés, ils expliquent que ces messages(rejetés) sont sauvé dans une *file* d'atteinte du disque pour que l'administrateur de la liste puisse les voir ou les récupérer s'il le veut ou les supprimer tout court. Mais cet option est disponible seulement après activation par l'administrateur du site. Est-il possible d'activer cet option ? Merci Cordialement, Marie Yvette Leguojeu 2010/1/6 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donsmile68%40gmail.com -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
In case anyone is wondering what Marie-Yvette is asking, her message says that she's trying to make her mailing list archives more useful to her, and has noticed that approved messages are archived but rejected ones disappear. She's noticed that there is an option to save rejected messages to a file, but that option is not available unless activated by the administrator. So she's asking for that option to be activated. (Which obviously, we can't do, and I'm not sure who to tell her to contact.) Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en train de configurer la catégorie une liste de distribution, pour avoir un archivage de message assez utile pour moi. Après les tests que j'ai faits jusqu'à maintenant, les messages approuvés sont archivés, tandis que ceux qui sont rejetés, je ne trouve pas de trace. D'après la catégorie de configuration *Filtre de contenu*, option *Détails de filter action* il y a différents choix. Quand on choisi de Préserver les messages supprimés, ils expliquent que ces messages(rejetés) sont sauvé dans une *file* d'atteinte du disque pour que l'administrateur de la liste puisse les voir ou les récupérer s'il le veut ou les supprimer tout court. Mais cet option est disponible seulement après activation par l'administrateur du site. Est-il possible d'activer cet option ? Merci Cordialement, Marie Yvette Leguojeu 2010/1/6 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donsmile68%40gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Marie-Yvette, (Apologies en advance: je n'ecrit pas tellement bien en français.) Oui, les messages rejectés ne vais pas etre au archive -- c'est normal. Si tu veut un record personel, vous pouvez t'envoyé un copie manuellement avec l'interface web chaque fois que vous rejet une message, ou vous pouvez utilizé l'option pour préserver au disque. Malheureusement, nous ne peuvons pas t'aider avec activer cet option: Vous avez contacté la liste mailman-users, une liste pour les personnes qui utilize le logiciel Mailman. Mais pour activer cet option, il faut que vous contact votre adminstrateur du site pour votre liste specifique. Je ne savent pas qui ce serait. Terri Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en train de configurer la catégorie une liste de distribution, pour avoir un archivage de message assez utile pour moi. Après les tests que j'ai faits jusqu'à maintenant, les messages approuvés sont archivés, tandis que ceux qui sont rejetés, je ne trouve pas de trace. D'après la catégorie de configuration *Filtre de contenu*, option *Détails de filter action* il y a différents choix. Quand on choisi de Préserver les messages supprimés, ils expliquent que ces messages(rejetés) sont sauvé dans une *file* d'atteinte du disque pour que l'administrateur de la liste puisse les voir ou les récupérer s'il le veut ou les supprimer tout court. Mais cet option est disponible seulement après activation par l'administrateur du site. Est-il possible d'activer cet option ? Merci Cordialement, Marie Yvette Leguojeu 2010/1/6 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donsmile68%40gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Thanks, Mark. I was just starting to construct a script, but yours is much more streamlined and works just fine. Thanks. Anyone else dealing with zeusmail.org ? On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Christopher Adams wrote: A spammer has subscribed completely unique addresses from the same domain to many of the mailing lists that we host. Is there a way to unsubscribe everything from this domain without writing a script that will do it? If you mean 'automatically' as opposed to just manually going through the lists and unsubscribing addresses, no. However, there are lots of very simple scripts. Consider #!/bin/sh for list in `bin/list_lists --bare`; do bin/list_members $list | grep example.com | \ bin/remove_members -f - -n -N $list done where example.com is the domain. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Christopher Adams adam...@gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
At 07:25 PM 1/4/2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: Christopher Adams wrote: A spammer has subscribed completely unique addresses from the same domain to many of the mailing lists that we host. Is there a way to unsubscribe everything from this domain without writing a script that will do it? Would that domain be zeusmail.org. I have had a similar occurrence -- and don't know why -- have seen nothing bad from it, but got unique subscriptions to over 100 lists from a zeusmail.org domain. Since all my lists deal with a specialized topic (blindness) it is unlikely that 100 or more individuals were interested from the same domain -- but I have seen nothing bad happen yet -- just suspicious. Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fell swoop?
We host over 600 lists and have about 250,000 subscribers. List owners have been asking me about how particular subscribers were able to subscribe to their lists. Well, in some cases, the list had open subscription. However, in almost all cases, the subscribers were from zeusmail.org. I did a scan of the subscribe logs and found over 800 subscribed addresses using zeusmail.org domain. Interestingly, all subscriptions come from the same IP address. Looking at the addresses, it is obvious that they are bogus, though they are interesting and rather humorous names that when all are put together, show a pattern of automated subscriptions. I checked the post logs and found that none from that domain had posted. So, I have done a couple of things. 1) blocked the ip at the firewall, 2) created a Postfix filter to not allow that domain to be able to send through the mail server, 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain, and 4) unsubscribed all zeusmail.org subscribers using the script Mark provided. It seems that zeusmail.org is a legitimate and non-blacklisted domain, but it just reeks of spammers. If there is a problem with the few that may be legitimate, they can easily be reinstated. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Christopher Adams adam...@gmail.com wrote: A spammer has subscribed completely unique addresses from the same domain to many of the mailing lists that we host. Is there a way to unsubscribe everything from this domain without writing a script that will do it? -- Christopher Adams adam...@gmail.com -- Christopher Adams adam...@gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Christopher Adams wrote: A spammer has subscribed completely unique addresses from the same domain to many of the mailing lists that we host. Is there a way to unsubscribe everything from this domain without writing a script that will do it? If you mean 'automatically' as opposed to just manually going through the lists and unsubscribing addresses, no. However, there are lots of very simple scripts. Consider #!/bin/sh for list in `bin/list_lists --bare`; do bin/list_members $list | grep example.com | \ bin/remove_members -f - -n -N $list done where example.com is the domain. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing
On Die, 2008-07-01 at 16:39 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote: I am unsubscribing. Thanks very much for helping with my inquiry, Mark. The other queries don't apply to me, and I can offer no help with them. On my inquiry, one would think that an OS that wants to rule the world would be compatible with the most popular mailing list software. Oh, well... You have to complain about this (Mailman should run on Windows) to MSFT. But I don't think that is what you meant (or need). Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156 fax: +43 1 7890849-55 Embedded Linux Development and Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing
--On July 1, 2008 4:39:34 PM +1000 Doug Laidlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my inquiry, one would think that an OS that wants to rule the world would be compatible with the most popular mailing list software. Oh, well... To which I reply: There is the source of your confusion. You are under the impression that Microsoft cares about how their software interacts with non-Microsoft products. They don't. You should just be using all Microsoft products, then everything would be good and right. Drink the Kool-Aid, Doug. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing
From: Doug Laidlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... one would think that an OS that wants to rule the world would be compatible with the most popular mailing list software. Oh, well... Wow, you mean Microsoft is going to be compatible with Mailman? Cool! :-) Jesus Saves!... Passes to Gretsky; Gretsky SCORES! Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing to a moderated list
Kiwi Ssennyonjo wrote: how can users unsubscribe from a moderated list that is also announce only via email (in the subject or body) i prefer not to use the options page Users can always send email to the listname-unsubscribe or listname-leave address or send an unsubscribe command to the listname-request address. These methods require user confirmation just as does unsubscribing from the options page without a password, but the fact that the user is moderated is irrelevant. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing Problem
Keith Casey wrote: I just 'inhereted' a mailing list and I'm just trying to figure out my way around.. yes.. a total n00b. I spent an hour or so looking for a solution to a problem that many people are expereincing on the list. When they want to unsubscribe on the wed interface, one inputs their e-mail address (it exists in the list) and when they press the 'Unsubscribe or Edit Options button, they are sent to the 'subscribe' page and it says this: Subscription results Your subscription request has been received, and will soon be acted upon. Depending on the configuration of this mailing list, your subscription request may have to be first confirmed by you via email, or approved by the list moderator. If confirmation is required, you will soon get a confirmation email which contains further instructions. Then an e-mail is generated stating that someone has tried subscribing you to a list that you're already on. It doesn't bring them to an edit or unsubscribe page when they press the button after they put in their e-mail address which shouldn't it be brining the user there? We're using version 2.1.5. Here's my guess. Someone has edited the template for the listinfo page, probably using the Edit the public HTML pages-General list information page link, but possibly via shell access. This edit attempted to rearrange the page and has resulted in the Unsubscribe or edit options form being logically nested within the Subscribe form. This is an easy mistake to make because the start tag for the Subscribe form comes too early in the template. Each form in the template begins with a tag of the form MM-Xxx-Form-Start and ends with the tag MM-Form-End. In the default template, the MM-Subscribe-Form-Start tag comes way too soon on the page, so attempts to rearrange things may move its MM-Form-End tag after another form without moving the start tag or move another form into the area between the MM-Subscribe-Form-Start tag and its MM-Form-End tag. The default English template (which should be unchanged is in templates/en/listinfo.html. The one for your list is probably in lists/list-name/en/listinfo.html. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing members from several lists at once
If you have access to the server, there is a command called remove_members. This command can remove an email address from all lists. If you do not have access to the server, then you may wish to have the server administrator make this command available via a sudo-CGI or make it accessible as an email command. HtH - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 07:28, Bart Jacobs wrote: Hello, I am a officenet administrator and see a lot off people come and go. Every time someone leaves i have to cheq all the lists an unsubscribe him/her. I am looking for a more simple way to do that. Is there a possability to unsubscribe by email so i can send an email to all lists. And what will hapen if the adress is not even on that list? Thanks in advance, Met vriendelijke groet, VIA NET.WORKS Nederland Bart Jacobs Afdeling systeembeheer -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing without password?
Yeah, I understand this, but it's too much of a hassle for users to have to retrieve their password like this. Not everyone is as computer savvy as you might think... all of the people on my list are international students. Most don't speak english well, and many of them will never of even used a computer before they arrived in the US. Other listservs make it very simple to unsubscribe... with majordomo, you just send an email with unsubscribe listname to a certain address. Ezmlm is even easier than that... just send any email to the unsubscribe address. The chances are SLIM that you'll accidentally unsubscribe yourself. They're even slimmer that some evil fool will try to unsubscribe you. I love mailman... it's by far my favorite listserv, but this one issue is keeping me from using it. :( Justin In a message dated Sat, 3 Aug 2002 6:59:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, Support Desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The password requirement is for subscriber protection, both, against getting subscribed unwillingly, and getting dropped inadvertently. Mailman, by default, automatically sends the password every month, so users are constantly reminded of password. If you add everyone, say, on the 25th of a month, then, on the 1st day of subsequent months, they receive their reminder. Those who **really** don't want to be on the list will make the effort to follow the unsubscribe instructions. If you include the links to list info and unsubscribe instructions in the header or footer of every message, they should be able to leave and change by simple steps. SD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing without password? | Hi. I've recently installed mailman, and would like to use it so that our organization can send announcements to the subscriber list. All of the users are added by us... it will be rare that anyone subscribes themself. But users will be unsubscribing thereselves. So, when someone wants to unsubscribe, it makes it a hassle for them to go and find their password since they didn't create it in the first place. Is there any simple way for a user to unsubscribe without their password? I noticed that 2.1 is in beta, but I saw no changelog, so I'm not sure if something like this has been implemented yet. | | Thanks, | Justin | | -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing without password?
I have an idea. I looked through the templates, and saw the password template variable. I tried using that in the resent mail footer, but it didn't parse. I was thinking I'd have a mailto:; with the subject set with the proper line to unsubscribe, including their password. It didn't work, but is there any way to get mailman to parse that variable in the footer? I went through all the source and couldn't find anything, but I'm more of a perl guy than python. Justin -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing quote email addresses
Have you tried double quotes...??? like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:51 AM 6.18.2002 -0500, David Brauer wrote: I have a problem unsubscribing a member who put quotes in her email address (i.e. joanblow@blahblah.com rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Mailman accepted the subscription with quotes, but any time I try to change her options or unsubscribe her via the interface, the system records her as not subscribed. I've tried without quotes, but that doesn't work (no record of a quote-less address). If anyone can tell me how to remove a subscription with quotes, I'd be most grateful. This user is subscribed from a work address and needs to unsubscribe. Yeah, it was probably her fault in the first place, but I'd like to help her out and fix a possible Mailman bug at the same time. Thanks, David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing quote email addresses
Jack L. Stone wrote: Have you tried double quotes...??? like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:51 AM 6.18.2002 -0500, David Brauer wrote: I have a problem unsubscribing a member who put quotes in her email address (i.e. joanblow@blahblah.com rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED]). i have the same situation here, and the problem is that the web interface chokes on those, i.e. they are displayed, but nothing happens when you uncheck the subscribed box. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing with just a reply
This is not a function of the current Mailman release, but your system admin can set this up for you. Basically setup an address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then have that email actually active a script that boots out the user from the group. On Sunday 09 June 2002 03:28 am, Jerome Warnier wrote: Is there any mean to authorize unsubscribing by email without the password? In this case, the originator address would be enough. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing users
Yes you are...I missed it too at the start...all you need to do is uncheck the check mark next to their name and then choose the submit button at the bottom of the page! Paul All my lists in one place...MY SITE! http://lists.paulsfunhouse.com/ At 06:14 PM 08/03/02, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi ! I just have set up several lists with the mailman. easy task! great ! but: how can i (the administrator) unsubscribe unwanted users ? there does not seem to be an interface for such a task. am i missing something obvious ??? mfg.as.raas IOhannes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing users
On Mar 9, 2002 at 01:14, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: how can i (the administrator) unsubscribe unwanted users ? there does not seem to be an interface for such a task. Uncheck the subscribed checkbox in the user list. am i missing something obvious ??? Yes. -- Satya. URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/ shutdown -halt now - The final word in network security tools. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing users
At 1:14 +0100 3/9/2002, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: but: how can i (the administrator) unsubscribe unwanted users ? there does not seem to be an interface for such a task. am i missing something obvious ??? No. That is, you aren't missing anything obvious. The method is not obvious until after you know it. In the administrator's Membership Management page, find the address in the list, uncheck the subscr column for the address (whose heading has likely scrolled off the top), and submit your changes If you have access to the command line, as the mailman user, on the server, you can use .../bin/remove_members to remove many members at once [or just one, for that matter]. Without that access, you're stuck in the web tool. --John -- John Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Port Ludlow, WA, USA -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing from this list
Go to the following site and unsubscribe yourself: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users You will need your password. Put your email address in the last field on the bottom of the page, and submit. A new web page specific to your account will pop-up and you can request your password here, or enter it and unsubscribe. Jon Carnes On Saturday 10 November 2001 11:43, Richard Marston wrote: Could someone send me instructions? Thanks in advance. RM __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing users
It's already in 2.1 It may have been discussed in the past, but wouldn't it also be a neat idea to include this feature on the web interface? ~/bin/remove_members -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing users
Detlef Neubauer 2001-10-19 16:28:51 +0200 wrote: Clean Air wrote: Is there a way to mass-UNsubscribe users from the system? I handle at least 50 unsubscribe requests a week, and it's not fun to do it one at a time. ~/bin/remove_members But why should one need to handle so many manually; isn't this just for the unsubscribe messages that aren't processed automagically by mailman for some reason? John G. Otto, Eagle Scout, Knight, Cybernetic Praxeologist Existence, Consciousness, Identity, Life, Liberty, Property, Privacy, Justice -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing users
fb == fred backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: fb It may have been discussed in the past, but wouldn't it also fb be a neat idea to include this feature on the web interface? In Mailman 2.1, you can mass unsubscribe by filling in addresses in a big text box, or by uploading a file of addresses, one per line. Note, this also works for mass subscribes. -Barry -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing users
Clean Air [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to mass-UNsubscribe users from the system? I handle at least 50 unsubscribe requests a week, and it's not fun to do it one at a time. ~/bin/remove_members Mit freundlichen Grüßen Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://germany.keyserver.net/ Oo. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing users
It may have been discussed in the past, but wouldn't it also be a neat idea to include this feature on the web interface? On Friday, October 19, 2001, at 03:28 PM, Detlef Neubauer wrote: Clean Air [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to mass-UNsubscribe users from the system? I handle at least 50 unsubscribe requests a week, and it's not fun to do it one at a time. ~/bin/remove_members Mit freundlichen Grüßen Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://germany.keyserver.net/ Oo. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing
On Tue, 08 May 2001 14:27:33 -0500 John David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to keep people from unsubscribing? I know you can monitor subscriptions, but i did not see anything about monitoring unsubscribing. Thanks for the help. Currently there is no direct support for this. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing
John David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to keep people from unsubscribing? Currently there is no direct support for this. And while I understand there are certain circumstances wher ethis might be reasonable (for instance, one of my list servers managers department lists which are mandatory subscriptions), in general, I have to ask why someone wants to force someone to stick around when they don't want to be there. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing
On Tue, 08 May 2001 16:57:11 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And while I understand there are certain circumstances wher ethis might be reasonable (for instance, one of my list servers managers department lists which are mandatory subscriptions), in general, I have to ask why someone wants to force someone to stick around when they don't want to be there. Especially when setting NOMAIL is even easier than unsubscribing. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
