[MlMt] creating a smart mailbox that is choosy about attachments
Dear list
I'm throwing myself on your mercy trying to sort out a smart mailbox. My
colleagues have recently all taken to including a graphic, usually (but
not always) called image001.png. It's beyond them to have it inline (as
I do:)).
However these colleagues also send me a lot of attachments that I need
to be able to find fairly quickly. I've been trying to create a smart
mailbox that
- contains messages from a particular set of individuals (that bit I can
do!),
- contain attachments that are NOT image001.png (or image002.png)
Sometimes these messages have the image AND a Word file (for instance,
or pdf), sometimes they only have the Word file (etc).
I thought this would be fairly straightforward but seem not to be able
to get the logic right. This is partly because X-attachment-type doesn't
work as I expected (I thought I could write 'docx' in there but that
returns nothing).
The smart mailboxes I've tried usually build like this:
Meet all conditions
1. Identify the people
2. Check there are attachments at all ('Attachment-Count' 'exists')
AT this point I have tried to think how to check what you could write as
If attachment count is 1
and attachment name is image001.png
then exclude from smart mailbox
But I can't translate that successfully into smart mailbox rules.
Sometimes there are multiple word docs, for instance and there may be a
signature graphic - or not.
I'm currently trying it by having multiple smart mailboxes which is the
only way I see to exclude things but that is also not turning out as I
hoped...;)___
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[MlMt] Messages not marked read on open
My preferences are set to mark messages read after 20 seconds. In every other mail program I've used, this setting applies only to the preview pane (Message View). However, when message view is off, and I double-click to open a message for viewing in a new window, the message is not marked read for 20 seconds. I can actually open a short email in a new window, read it, close it, and still have to mark it read manually. I'd prefer to have messages marked read as soon as I explicitly open them. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Messages not marked read on open
On 1 Oct 2014, at 14:19, John Cooper wrote: My preferences are set to mark messages read after 20 seconds. In every other mail program I've used, this setting applies only to the preview pane (Message View). However, when message view is off, and I double-click to open a message for viewing in a new window, the message is not marked read for 20 seconds. I can actually open a short email in a new window, read it, close it, and still have to mark it read manually. I'd prefer to have messages marked read as soon as I explicitly open them. There are lots of opinions on this subject: http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/402 I cannot make the above the default behavior, but I might make it optional at some point. Note that you can bind a key to get this behavior, e.g.: o = ( setTag:, \\Seen, openMessages: ); \U000A = ( setTag:, \\Seen, openMessages: ); // Return \U000D = ( setTag:, \\Seen, openMessages: ); // Enter But you cannot override the double-click behavior. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Messages not marked read on open
On 1 Oct 2014, at 15:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: My preferences are set to mark messages read after 20 seconds. In every other mail program I've used, this setting applies only to the preview pane (Message View). However, when message view is off, and I double-click to open a message for viewing in a new window, the message is not marked read for 20 seconds. I can actually open a short email in a new window, read it, close it, and still have to mark it read manually. I'd prefer to have messages marked read as soon as I explicitly open them. There are lots of opinions on this subject: http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/402 No doubt, but in the ticket above, there is only one contrary opinion other than your own. :) And while I haven't taken a full survey, I'm sure that the behavior of Mail, Outlook, Entourage, Gmail and Eudora matches what I describe—and shouldn't these count as opinions of some weight? I cannot make the above the default behavior, but I might make it optional at some point. Note that you can bind a key to get this behavior, e.g.: o = ( setTag:, \\Seen, openMessages: ); \U000A = ( setTag:, \\Seen, openMessages: ); // Return \U000D = ( setTag:, \\Seen, openMessages: ); // Enter But you cannot override the double-click behavior. Thank you for the workaround. I'll set that and train myself to use a keybinding instead of my mouse in MailMate. John___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Messages not marked read on open
On 1 Oct 2014, at 23:20, John Cooper wrote: There are lots of opinions on this subject: http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/402 No doubt, but in the ticket above, there is only one contrary opinion other than your own. :) And while I haven't taken a full survey, I'm sure that the behavior of Mail, Outlook, Entourage, Gmail and Eudora matches what I describe—and shouldn't these count as opinions of some weight? Most of those support POP3, encourage top posting, encourage the use of HTML, don't support `format=flowed`, etc. :-) As a user of MailMate, your opinion counts more than the design choices of other email clients. Linking to the ticket was mainly to show you that there is little agreement on what would be the best behavior. (It was not my intention to put it to a vote.) Thank you for the workaround. I'll set that and train myself to use a keybinding instead of my mouse in MailMate. If you do get used to it then you might find that it was a good thing that the default behavior of double-clicking did not suit you. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] creating a smart mailbox that is choosy about attachments
On 1 Oct 2014, at 12:08, Jason Davies wrote: [background] I thought this would be fairly straightforward but seem not to be able to get the logic right. This is partly because X-attachment-type doesn't work as I expected (I thought I could write 'docx' in there but that returns nothing). You should be able to match on any header in a message, but it's tricky to match on a subset of a header if there is no specifier available for it by default. […] AT this point I have tried to think how to check what you could write as If attachment count is 1 and attachment name is image001.png then exclude from smart mailbox But I can't translate that successfully into smart mailbox rules. Sometimes there are multiple word docs, for instance and there may be a signature graphic - or not. I'm currently trying it by having multiple smart mailboxes which is the only way I see to exclude things but that is also not turning out as I hoped...;) I would probably need some concrete example to precisely understand what you are trying to do, but it's a good idea to create separate smart mailboxes to separate each matching issue. It is very tricky to match on attachments for various reasons. It's tricky to even count the attachments as done for `Attachments-Count`. One thing to note is that when you try to match on headers of attachments (or any other subpart of a message) then you need to use the “All Body Parts” toggle in the comparison popup. This ensures that MailMate looks beyond the headers of the root headers of each message. But this does not cover all use cases since it's very hard to combine conditions for a single subpart. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
